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Title: Mot query
Post by: Deadzed13 on March 07, 2016, 23:29:50 pm
Beetle failed the MOT test today. There is a small hole the size of a 5 pence piece at the bottom of the door pillar. I was lead to believe this was an advisory only as the body and chassis are seperate?  Or am I not up to speed on the current Mot standards?


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: Iryanu on March 07, 2016, 23:36:17 pm
Anything within 12" of a seatbelt mounting point is a fail I believe.


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: Deadzed13 on March 08, 2016, 00:09:41 am
Anything within 12" of a seatbelt mounting point is a fail I believe.
This hole is hinge side. So it's a fair distance from the seat belt. Suppose I'll have to suck it up and get it done.   :-\


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: dth on March 08, 2016, 09:26:18 am
12" from a seatbelt mount / suspension point or body mount area as a guide , so maybe the body mount bit would cover that,
im surprised it wasnt just advised , but every tester is different and has different standards , and alot of testers these days are
not used to older classic cars.


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: modnrod on March 08, 2016, 12:49:01 pm
........... and alot of testers these days are
not used to older classic cars.

A quick story from the colonies to show that it's not just a UK thing.

A friend in our small regional areas has a shed full of original old classics. One of them is a 1928 Dodge, it even has wooden wheels, very cool! He mistakenly let the rego run out (it had plates on it since the initial rego in the '20s), but now has to resort to only using it occasionally around the farm.......the tech inspectors point-blank refused to register the vehicle because it didn't have warm defrost air to the windscreen!  :D


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: Nico86 on March 08, 2016, 12:55:07 pm
the tech inspectors point-blank refused to register the vehicle because it didn't have warm defrost air to the windscreen!  :D

Well these guys must have a boss or someone over them... a quick letter mentioning their stupidity wouldn't hurt  ;)


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: whirligig on March 08, 2016, 20:06:11 pm
your tester is a numpty, ( I have been a mot tester for 40 years buy the way) the only way it can fail on a front door pillar is if the hinge is insecure. Body mountings have to be so bad that effectivly the body has to be loose, ie  to interfere with brake or steering control. A unitry body shell is different as it could fail due to corrosion within 30cm of a seat mounting . Tell him to go read the manual under vehicles with a separate chassis.
 Buy the way tested a 70 1300 the other day , made a nice change from all the French crap and nackered focus/fiestas ect.


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: leec on March 08, 2016, 21:12:50 pm
Why not just get it welded anyway? Irrespective of what the mot says a small hole will soon become a bigger problem

Lee


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: Deadzed13 on March 09, 2016, 18:32:43 pm
your tester is a numpty, ( I have been a mot tester for 40 years buy the way) the only way it can fail on a front door pillar is if the hinge is insecure. Body mountings have to be so bad that effectivly the body has to be loose, ie  to interfere with brake or steering control. A unitry body shell is different as it could fail due to corrosion within 30cm of a seat mounting . Tell him to go read the manual under vehicles with a separate chassis.
 Buy the way tested a 70 1300 the other day , made a nice change from all the French crap and nackered focus/fiestas ect.
As I suspected.


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: Deadzed13 on March 09, 2016, 18:36:31 pm
Why not just get it welded anyway? Irrespective of what the mot says a small hole will soon become a bigger problem

Lee
This is true, and something I intends to do. But it doesn't give him the right to in effect take my vehicle off the road because after a few extra Reddies. He's basically prematurely forced my hand. Talk about bending the rules.


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: Deadzed13 on March 09, 2016, 18:37:07 pm
........... and alot of testers these days are
not used to older classic cars.

A quick story from the colonies to show that it's not just a UK thing.

A friend in our small regional areas has a shed full of original old classics. One of them is a 1928 Dodge, it even has wooden wheels, very cool! He mistakenly let the rego run out (it had plates on it since the initial rego in the '20s), but now has to resort to only using it occasionally around the farm.......the tech inspectors point-blank refused to register the vehicle because it didn't have warm defrost air to the windscreen!  :D
That's harsh!


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: Iryanu on March 10, 2016, 09:17:31 am
I'd just take it elsewhere, or print off these pages and go show the guy he's a twonk:

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_610.htm

http://www.motuk.co.uk/mot_appendix_c.htm


Title: Re: Mot query
Post by: Deadzed13 on March 10, 2016, 21:38:08 pm
I'd just take it elsewhere, or print off these pages and go show the guy he's a twonk:

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_610.htm

http://www.motuk.co.uk/mot_appendix_c.htm


Thank you