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Cal-look/High Performance => Pure racing => Topic started by: Joe_G on October 03, 2007, 00:13:21 am



Title: type3 rear end??
Post by: Joe_G on October 03, 2007, 00:13:21 am
What size wheel/slick combo have people sqeezed under a type3? Mine will be going type2 IRS 901 box and with the power i'll have i don't think a 6" slick will do :( Want to keep it 100% pan car so no back halfing.
Any ideas??
Cheers
Joe


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: nicolas on October 03, 2007, 08:36:42 am
most of the problem i know of is the outside clearance. i have heard about the autimatic IRS shafts of a type3 being shorter as others. but the wheels need to tuck in as much as possible.


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: Fastbrit on October 03, 2007, 08:38:30 am
most of the problem i know of is the outside clearance. i have heard about the autimatic IRS shafts of a type3 being shorter as others. but the wheels need to tuck in as much as possible.
No, only one shaft is shorter, due to the offset design of the automatic gearbox. Nothing else changes.


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: Martin on October 05, 2007, 16:32:53 pm
why not keep it swing axel and use the space you have towards the spring plate, (if you have any). you could have some erco's spun up with a more suitable offset.

just a thought.

Back halfing the car, like mine is'nt such a bad job. and you would end up with a rear end that could be tuned more.


just another thought.



right back off to the work shop, got a shiny shitter to finish. ;)


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: benssp on October 05, 2007, 16:51:03 pm
The problem we had when Joe tried to trial fit Bernies slicks was the lack of clearance on the type 3 shock mount, if this was removed an a tubular one tied in to the cage was fitted they'd be much more clearance :)


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: Joe_G on October 05, 2007, 17:10:55 pm
I think I 'just' need to narrow the IRS subframe. Is it as easy as that though???

Sitting here in Las Vegas, the sun is out, it's in the high 80's (just had to tell someone!!!!!)


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: Joe_G on October 05, 2007, 17:13:04 pm
Oh and Martin, it needs to stay a pan car!! ;)


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: benssp on October 05, 2007, 17:24:52 pm
Sitting here in Las Vegas, the sun is out, it's in the high 80's (just had to tell someone!!!!!)

You Bastad ;D


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on October 05, 2007, 17:27:25 pm
Speek to http://www.mckenzies.com/ narrow A Arms and everything to match ! Sorted all my stuff out and works well so far !


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: Martin Greaves on October 05, 2007, 17:28:04 pm
I was just going to say that you are on your Hols of get of here now.


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: stealth67vw on October 06, 2007, 02:05:58 am
The type 3 has a subframe. Make something bolt in and it will still be a pan car. ;D


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: Jon on October 06, 2007, 10:24:56 am
The subframe can also be narrowed pretty easy,  Then the only limitation is the inside of the wheel well. Look at the spring plates on a 1303 if you want to keep the torsion bars.


Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: Martin on October 06, 2007, 12:49:30 pm
Oh and Martin, it needs to stay a pan car!! ;)

Mines still a pan car (maybe) LOL



Title: Re: type3 rear end??
Post by: type3 on October 19, 2007, 12:53:37 pm
I'm running a 205 width (low profile) tire on a 7.5 inch rim. I think you'll struggle to get an 8 inch slick under there though.

I don't think you can narrow an IRS subframe like you can the swing axle versions. You can get narrowed trailing arms off the shelf though (1.5 inch narrower) or you can modify the stock ones (cutting and moving the bearing carrier inboard - this can net you 26mm).

Clearance on the inside can be an issue. On mine the nearest point is the upper part of the bump stop, that can be cut away. Also if the front most trailing arm bolt gets in the way, the German Look guys have been known to use a countersunk Allen bolt there.

If you go the narrowed trailing arm route you'll need shorter axles as previously mentioned on this thread. You can get race axles in the same length as the short sided Auto axle (15 3/8ths). You need to use those if you run a Type2 box or if you run narrowed trailing arms. I'm not sure what you'd do if ran with both of those, you'd probably have to just try it and cut down the length as necessary.

 :)