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With the likelihood that Shakespeare county raceway will close this winter[not confirmed 100% yet] I have already talked to Santa pod about the possibility of running the Street car shoot out their next year via email last week and in person last Friday, they seem positive about it and I proposed we would run it at the Retro show with is usually around 17/18th june, they were already looking for a couple of race classes to add to this event so this could work out well . While this is only a one day show[sunday] there is a rwyb/test n tune on the Saturday allowing racing both days.
As soon as I know more I will update this thread with any details but all those that didn't quite make it this year keep on working on those cars, you have plenty of time to get them done now, no excuses ;D

cheers Richie

This is a link to report from this years show so you get an idea of what is about, its not only drag racing either with an Autotest and a drift arena to keep you entertained


http://www.retroshow.co.uk/index.php

Cool, I'll look forward to this.

Andrew

Should be ready in time  ;)

 ;D ;D

Cool, an other street car shootout,  keep them coming,  this keeps us motivated to make our cars better and better 😆

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It will happen in 2018 at the retro show as planned, it has been confirmed and added to the schedule for that event, dates are 16th /17th June, here's a link to what else to expect :)


  http://www.retroshow.co.uk/index.php

I really have no excuse for not finishing my car for this, I have had an extra year since I last said it would be done

You too huh?  :D

My car will be fixed for then - hopefully have the motor out this week after breaking it on the way home from the last event at Shakey in October.
Bigger problem is persuading Em to go to Pod as she isn't a fan of the place (and to be fair, nor am I so much any more). I might just have a day out.

I'll be down for this for sure.

I'm off for the whole weekend, I will be there!

 8)

Be good to get more cars than last year, so no excuses if you want to join in the fun get out in the garage and get it done ;D

I've been told I'm not allowed to let my car sit and fester again, so that sounds like a pass out for me! ;D
Half term in 4 weeks time so I'll attack it then!

I've been working hard on getting this thing up and running for the first time,  I now have steering, brakes and engine done, just need to out the engine back in and wire it up for the first start!

For those of you on facebook Jo has created this page for the street car shootout

 https://www.facebook.com/VWAircooledStreetCarShootout/

Ok question for anyone thinking of running, I have been asked if Octane booster is allowed on a N/A car, so opinions please? My thought is if its a commercially available product legal for road use then its ok same as water meth on a turbo car

cheers Richie

Sure, i'd say no problem. Wouldn't want to make the rules too strict and its indeed very comparable to water-meth injection on a turbo car.

I would say no to octane boosters. How many Uk petrol stations sell octane booster?

I would say yes to octane boosters as its about getting as many people out to the race track as possible, if your car is set up or has to use it on the street then why exclude these people from this event. Is this a bit of fun and about meeting like minded folks on here or is it that serious that its about rules and winning ?

I've ran race fuel in my car with no et gains. Can't see anything you buy in a little can/tin will make enough difference to actually worry about it from a rule point of view

So if you built your car so it needs to run octane boosters / race fuel surely it Should be entered in the street modified class?

I’m just saying a highly strung car that needs octane boosters to make it drive able on the street vs a true street car that runs normal pump fuel isn’t fair

Joel

it is about having rules so it fair and equal for everyone, that's all :) and at moment there is no rule to say it can't be used. I am just asking for opinions  :)

I do think Dave made a good point though

cheers Richie

I can see both sides of the argument as put forward by Lee and Dave. I've never considered octane boosters as a performance thing, just as a safety measure to prevent knocking when hammering it harder than you ever would on the road.  But as Dave said, if its so highly strung that it needs that, then it's maybe not a true street car?

In conclusion, no idea! I won't be using it, but I also won't be challenging for top spot! I'll be looking for a 13 and get all the way home...

And that’s why there is a true street car class. A 13 or 14 second car is in with a chance.

The fastest car isn’t guaranteed to win it

I wasn't giving a point of view/side. Just that I'd seen no real gains. Unfortunately as there is no visible signs of using it, it would be a hard rule to police anyway. You would have to rely on honesty of the car owner.

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Unless the engine has a decent compression ratio to start with you won’t see any gains using race fuel

And I guess that's my point. Race fuel/octane boosters don't 'make' horse power, the motor does that. If its 14:1 it's not going to run well on the cruise :)

I won't be in the running for top spot as I am still building this thing, it has never ran so there will be all sorts of bugs in it and am not experienced enough to be a contender.
I know what work needs to be done to my car to make it reliable and be able to cruise on the street without problem's but the amount of work still required is great. I understand the point you are making about highly strung engines and not being true street cars but for me if I do not manage to finish what it needs long term I would still rather attend for fun and sort that stuff out at a later date.

unless you guys want to go with fuel sampling and all the expense of the on car sample port etc and policing and testing for anomalys, let it in, as mentioned correctly above, it wont win you anything but may save a motor, we used gobs of it back when we had clunky ECU's and hose pipe injection, today you high end guys have knock control but some street racers will be on a budget and want to belt and braces their motor, cant hurt in my view and most should be happy.🤗
 

So having taken a few days to think about it and considered the opinions I have received I have decided to leave rules exactly as they are, they are simple and worked fine last year, and Joel pointed out it is all about having fun  8)

So yes you can use octane booster if you want to :)

Who's going to this then? Lets get a roll call... ;D

We are planning on bringing 3 cars, my white 67, Jo's blue 67 and my red 67 cabrio with someone else driving :o ;D

I'm planning on bringing mine. As I said before, I'd like to break into the 13's and drive home... 100mph terminal speed would be nice too.

So 17th/18th June at Santa pod is it? (non facebooked)

if the car is back on the road i'll give a ago, Just give me a decent head start ;)

Yes that's it, be good to see it there Andy :)

I'll definitely have the Oval there. Be great to finally meet everyone off here who's going and hopefully get out of my car what I can!! Is everyone doing the whole weekend?

Am sure it will run 13s given what it did already, a little seat time will help as well, its been a while hasn't it ;)

cheers Richie

Hopefully most will as we want to do the cruise part Saturday evening

Ah yep of course.

I'll give it a go! but got a fair bit to sort before its road worthy, you never know ;)

Just the 4 of us then.....better chance of winning!  ;D

I'm nearly there, about to fire it up for the first time....

Yep, 2005! Got the engine out today, head off, rocker studs replaced. Tomorrow we'll build it back up and get it in. Friday I've got a factory tour at Morgan, so no work being done then, and Em is back so I've got to get the head, carbs and fanshroud out of the living room before she gets back...

One month to go, so are you all ready?  ;D

To bad I won't be able to make it, have a marriage to go to.
hopefull next year will be able to go.

@Richie, ok for you if i bring the cradle to bugjam?

Drove it to work on Monday! Needs some time spent setting it up, and still quite smoky when I give it the beans. Keep playing at the weekend!

Had a couple of hours in the garage today and got this old shitter back on the road.
It's got working wipers, washers, lights, horn and door mirrors, so it's got to be a street car ;-)
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Looking good Frank (car!)  ;D

We are trying to arrange an allocated pit area for everyone taking part in Aircooled Street car shootout so if you are definitely coming with a car to race then can you post here so we have an idea of numbers and size of space we will need, thanks  :)

Ready

Cool, see you there then Dave :)

Ready to pick up a go faster present for myself 😎

I'm out. Double booked (actually triple booked so got to cancel two things!)

I won't make it I'm afraid
Too many things to fix in the available time but atleast it runs very well so I am pleased

 >:(

Tell me about it. Not happy with my complete lack of calendar skills...

Cant see how 2 other things are more important but that's just me

Less than 2 weeks to go :o Trophies are ordered 8) See those who are coming there on Saturday, I will post pit arrangements next week once its all confirmed

Ooh trophies as well. See you in 2 weeks then  ;)

will there be another one of these later in the year or is this it?
I effectively have a running car now but have to take out the gearbox again to sort the diff and have a few other issues that mean I wont make this

Hi Joel

no more this year, maybe it will happen again next year but depends on success of this one and car turnout


cheers Richie

 :'( dropped a valve seat so will be there without my bug .....so gonna loose my title
So good motivation to get back again next year to win it back  ::)

Last year's event was the high light of the year for me, unfortunately I have not had the time to look at my bug this year so won't be able to take part . I do hope it continues in the future.

As I have a long ass drive I'm planning on heading down Friday and staying in a hotel Friday night so if anyone fancies a bite to eat/beer Friday eve in Wellingborough then give us a shout.

What's the arrangements for the Saturday - time to arrive and all that?

That's a shame Andy, was good to have you & car there last year, it will all be numbers dependant on this year if it is to continue, with Pod having some many things to fit in with Shakey closing they only want stuff that brings in cars & people

There are a few going Friday but don't know if they will be allowed in gate or not, as officially it wont be open. We will have designated pit area and Saturday is open rwyb, then meet at gate approx. 5.30m to do cruise about 28miles or so around local area and back to track again. I will be there Saturday AM to answer any questions etc
cheers Richie

Ah - didnt realise there wasnt many going for both days.

There are lots/most going all weekend, just gates don't open until Saturday morning :)

 :)

Is there scheduled vw specific racing for Sunday ?

I have to work Saturday but was thinking of driving up Sunday for my vw fix  ;D

Thanks
Darren

Good luck to everyone this weekend, be safe and enjoy the racing.

Looks like some fun was had

Who won what then ?

Got a shock this morning when my YouTube alerts brought up Danny's mishap. Other than that, how did it go?

Did anyone win a trophy  ???

Or does Richie have flash door stops lol

Modified N/A: Johnny marriage

Modified power adder: no entries

Street power adder: Jay Turnock. Nos bus

Street N/A:  a fiat


It was a good weekend, thanks to Richie and Jo for organising the event

Here's the winners with their trophies.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180625/ff32574cd52bed644c7d37b610e5793c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180625/3b7edf04a038ceb61474cd28a58b393a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180625/89d88d1357729bfd7d3dd49ff98a6535.jpg)

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Thanks for the update Dave and Jo  :)

The red fiat reminded me of the best moment from Sunday. Red fiat and X1-9 were lined up together. Both left the line but there was some bogging/mis-shifting etc going on. As red overtook X1-9, the driver enthusiastically and visible from the stands, gave the hand movement for how shall I put this 'self pleasuring' across to his opponent.

I can't remember who crossed the line first, I was busy laughing

The 600 won

Danny in the X1-9 and I are friends. We were winding each other up in the fire up lane about who had the fastest fiat.  Danny ran a 9.89 and a 9.85 without him having technical issues on that pass I wouldn’t have stood a chance!

was funny as fuck though ;D i always fuck up the run when i spend ages taking piss out of other car  :D

Like  ;)

Agreed, it was really good to see this photo of the 600 back together after last year's "incident". Mk1 Kieran has put a video on YouTube of about four of Dave's runs. Looks strong and straight - no drama!

Thanks Neil/ Frank it was good to have the car back out again. That’s the first time I’ve driven it in over 2 years! It’s a road car now so I won’ Be chasing numbers with it anymore.

Hopefully there will be another one next year.  It needs more  people to commit so Santa pod take VWs seriously

Agreed. I was kicking myself for double double booking myself that weekend - supposed to be at Pod, in Cardiff and in Loughborough all at the same time! As it turned out I wouldn't have been able to race anyway - the car isn't 100% yet and still needs a lot more work to make it reliably quick but it's the niggly little bits that take the time to find.