Title: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 19, 2017, 11:36:55 am after a 69 bay, three 67s und a 72 i now want to do a car for myself (i promise)
my 61 panel project is on halt due to money and skill shortage (man, its expensive to restore a bus), i turned to the 63 shell i have on the rotisserie. this is how i got it: (fairly) cheap, no doors/hoods/fenders included, besically just a lot of rust with a dented roof. but its the year of my birth, so i will give it a go Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 19, 2017, 11:40:31 am i parted out a 59 that was too far gone, but the rest of the missing sheet metal was there, along with all the hardware to assemble a complete car.
the sunroof comes from this car, a metal only localy manufactured baja, that used a lot of Kübel parts (notice the Notek wartime drivinglight) Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 19, 2017, 11:47:58 am on saturday i will hop into the car with Mexx and get a 69 IRS pan from Oliver in upper Austria, this will be the foundation of the project.
i have lots of parts for this, it will use all the good parts i saved when i sold my oval ragtop: 993 front brakes with drop spindles and aluminium Brembo calippers 944 rears with 944 adjustable springplates 901 trans that Mexx regeared for me engine will be a WBX 2.1 that is later going into the panel, but it will have to do until the 84x97 nickie motor ist done paint will be arctic L363 with dark blue ragtop and light grey interior (i think) i have 5.5/6 hearts i have redone and a set of early porsche steelies to make it a roller, but i wont tell the final wheelchoice yet... Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 20, 2017, 12:48:34 pm the body is really bad, lots of "repairs". i braced it before taking out the heaterchanels. right side chanel could be taken out by hand ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: vwhelmot on September 20, 2017, 14:33:42 pm Good stuff. Subscribed.
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 21, 2017, 13:15:29 pm thanx Lyndon!
looks like this now. about every replacement metal will be necessairy. why do i do this? i just have a soft spot for cars no one else would rescue :P and to be honest: most of the stuff you get nowadays is pretty rusted through in this neck of the woods. why pay a lot of money for a car that looks better, but basically needs the same work to do it right the best part is the front clip, it has been hit, but not too serously. i may be able to save it Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Neil Davies on September 21, 2017, 18:16:40 pm Good project, looking forward to it developing. That nose does seem saveable - just gentle tapping, bit by bit.
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 21, 2017, 19:55:18 pm Thanx Neil for chiming in. There was actually a crease (the rusted vertical line) i was able to straighten out. Just having a glass of wine and loking at it now ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: vwhelmot on September 21, 2017, 21:11:58 pm It's because all beetles have a heart just like Herbie 😂
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 25, 2017, 13:09:12 pm since the rear bodymount on the drivers side had been removed with a cutoff wheel, i had to adress this wheelwell first to get a good solid mounting of the body on the rotisserie. i constructed two removable arms to the more forward positioned mountingholes in the body
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 25, 2017, 14:20:50 pm then i cut out the rusty part
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 25, 2017, 14:21:47 pm and welded in the repairpanel
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 26, 2017, 09:45:13 am some more sheetmetal came in. these are the better quality heater chanels, no seam on the bottom and no blind stamping of the later heateroutlet in the middle. they are empty though, no heater ducting inside, just a little bend under the vertical pipe. i think splits also had no heater ducting stock. since this will be no winter car i can live with that. when the heater is on it will dry out all of the moisture in the chanel,so this has a small benefit
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 28, 2017, 09:33:28 am the pan is here, a 69 irs from an automatic, rust free
i think i will have it sandblasted, but first i have to make a few adjustments: clutch tube and oil lines for a front oilcooler, as well as modify it to accept the porsche shifter and 901 fivespeed. some notches for the 944 adjustable trailingarms, remove the stock jackpoints (i hate these :P) Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Frenchy Dehoux on September 29, 2017, 04:51:49 am Great project i will follow your progress !!! Frenchy Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Neil Davies on September 29, 2017, 06:33:47 am Pan looks like a good basis. I always chop the jacking points off too - they're just water traps. Are you sticking with the balljoint framehead or changing for linkpin? I remember being told years ago that the linkpin/IRS combination is the best handling one.
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Nico86 on September 30, 2017, 15:35:17 pm Great project, keep us updated about the work. I like that Baja too ;D You certainly can get money for your project by selling these Kubel parts for a good price.
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 03, 2017, 07:53:26 am thanx for the interrest, guys!
i will keep the balljoint front beam, my dropped spindle/porsche brake combo fits it. sadly the rest of the "baja" was not mine, so no selling of parts.... Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 09, 2017, 07:37:23 am passenger side wheelwell is repaired, both rear bodymounts are now functional
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 09, 2017, 07:38:24 am i was now able to take out the driversside heaterchanel
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 11, 2017, 06:55:25 am i cut off the stock jackpoints next and mounted the new heaterchanels to the pan with all screws. i did not tighten them all the way to be able to make minor adjustments.
after mounting the front beam to get the locating points of the body i will lower the body on the pan next Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 12, 2017, 07:04:04 am beam is mounted
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 12, 2017, 07:04:55 am using my electric winch i lowered the body onto the pan. this simplyfies this action a lot for a one-man-show like me
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 12, 2017, 07:08:04 am i will have to shorten the rear bodymounts, since it turned out that the 63 has these protruding further down. the 69 IRS pan has the later style, so there is 5cm to cut off. i was aware of this early body/late pan problem, but didnt know when the pans got the higher mounting points
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 16, 2017, 06:56:57 am shortened, the body now sits on the pan how it should
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 16, 2017, 06:58:45 am there is not much left where i can weld the body to the heaterchanels, but it will be enough: front firewall, a-pillar, b-pillar and the inner sidewall
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 16, 2017, 07:00:06 am before any welding can be done the doorgaps have to be checked, even with a brace. this is used to manipulate the a-pillar to the correct position
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 16, 2017, 07:03:29 am after some fiddling i ended up with acceptable doorgaps. heaterchanels are welded now.
the screw-plate of the a-pillar is very weak, missing its inner part of the pillar and the outer skin in the wheelwell, this will have to be adressed next Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 18, 2017, 07:45:40 am the a-pillars are now done from the inside
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 23, 2017, 08:29:50 am some more wok done to the left side heaterchanel/sidewall
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 23, 2017, 08:31:33 am more
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 23, 2017, 08:32:20 am and closed up
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Nico86 on October 25, 2017, 22:44:39 pm Nice progress, you are going fast! :)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Cornpanzer on October 26, 2017, 02:10:37 am WILDMAN! ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 02, 2017, 08:58:04 am thanx guys for checking in!
some more work done to the front wheelwell/a-pilar Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 02, 2017, 09:00:09 am as well as some of the fender attachment points front and back that were beyond further repairs
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 06, 2017, 08:00:46 am left side endpiece was toast and had an universal bumpermount-repairpiece crudely welded over the rust, so
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 06, 2017, 08:04:55 am inner support was removed too and the new piece clamped on and adjusted, then tacked in place. after a final check it was welded permanently
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 06, 2017, 08:23:03 am checking the fit
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 06, 2017, 08:35:02 am right side: same story
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 06, 2017, 09:02:11 am using a fender i made sure the gaps are ok and finishwelded
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 06, 2017, 09:10:41 am endpiece finished, the apron will stay removable
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 08, 2017, 10:36:59 am front wheel arch/a-pillar
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 08, 2017, 10:38:01 am welded
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Splitboy on November 08, 2017, 18:31:01 pm Good work!
Please keep the updates coming :) Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Neil Davies on November 08, 2017, 18:35:22 pm It's going well! Aren't those lower front quarter repair panels horrible pressings though! I wish you could buy a decent one with the correct shape at the bottom of the wing line, it would save loads of time having to make little closing plates!
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Stevo_L on November 08, 2017, 21:30:44 pm awesome project!
will be an really nice racer with that chassis and engine ;D endpiece finished, the apron will stay removable will you weld those triangles in the engine bay in again? maybe try to increase the current of your welding machine and decrease the adding material. (mehr strom, weinger vorschub) Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 09, 2017, 08:09:04 am thanx for all of the positive criticism.
i would like to have a better pressing for the quaterpanels too, but i used these so often that i dont even bother anymore :P my welder is one of the absolute cheapo units, its hard to get a good setting (at least for me, maybe thats the problem). the current i use is ok, its doesnt blow holes and has a nice penetration, the speed of the wire is the problem. taking this into account you may have looked at the first pics in this thread, the welds were frankenstein, you are right. i played with the settings forever and couldn get it to perform as in the past. then i fortunately ran out of gas. the old gas i had was from a bottle that mexx used for his wig, pure argon, the new gas i got was a blend of argon/CO and it felt like i had bought a new welder (which i was thinking about). Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 17, 2017, 07:44:24 am have been busy and finshed the engine bay and started on the lower front firewall. after a close look at the front apront i wont be able to save it, its just too crusty, so i ordered a replacement from csp
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 20, 2017, 08:11:31 am while i wait on the apron i finished all of the rust holes. the ragtop is next.
this is a coplete clip with some rust damadge, but nothing too serious. the mechnical parts are from another assembly and are in very good condition. i have grafted in two ragtops before, but this time i wanted to use all of the inside stock bracing to be able to use a non-modified stock headliner. first i determined where to cut and then removed all the inner sheet metal Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 20, 2017, 08:12:29 am leftovers
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 20, 2017, 08:13:33 am the car is ideal for a ragtop conversion since it has roof damage
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 20, 2017, 08:15:40 am using a cutoff wheel and sheetmetal shears i removed the necessairy metal after drilling out the spotwelds around the windshield
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 20, 2017, 08:16:44 am careful fitting is in order :o
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: leec on November 20, 2017, 09:29:07 am Nice work :)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 29, 2017, 08:15:13 am thanx lee!
i couldnt work on the car on the weekend, but yesterday night i managed to weld in the side stiffeners of the ragtop Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 01, 2017, 11:39:58 am opening is now flanged
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 01, 2017, 11:40:55 am i took extreme care to get a good fit around the windshield/front roof
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 01, 2017, 11:41:55 am tacked in place at the front
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 01, 2017, 11:43:14 am i then pulled it back via clamps to get at good fit to the flange on the sides and back of the roof frame
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 01, 2017, 11:45:12 am and tacked in place. sorry for some bad pics :P
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Cornpanzer on December 03, 2017, 05:30:09 am Very cool!
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 15, 2017, 08:03:27 am Hi Dave!
not much to show, but a lot of time consuming work: scraping off the undercoating under the tank and beneath the parcel tray. i have an appointment with the sandblaster today. also started on the rear lid, first was to repair rust on the bottom Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 18, 2017, 08:36:14 am off to the blaster, hope to get it friday
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 18, 2017, 08:38:11 am some more work to the engine lid. louvers are from a 1302 hood. not easy to weld in since the curvature and position differs to early model hoods
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 25, 2017, 12:26:11 pm body was blasted, but there was a little mishap with the primer :P
anyway, i have a lot of work to do on the pan started by mounting the 901 fivespeed: cutting off the stock nosemount from the pan, cutting a window for the shiftrod and finding out a way to mount the rear of the trans to the aluminum mount Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: thehanz DVK on December 25, 2017, 14:08:48 pm Nice project again Karl , looking good
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 25, 2017, 21:55:47 pm thanx!
modifications to the tunnel for the 5speedshifter (porsche 911 with shortshiftkit) are next: cutout opened and widened at the top Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 25, 2017, 21:58:58 pm some 2.5mm sheet for the base. oillines and 8mm fuellines are next before i weld it in. i will use the front cooler setup from an earlier project
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 03, 2018, 08:02:03 am clutch tube is welded in
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 05, 2018, 08:43:39 am oil lines are prepared (but will be mounted after blasting), as well as two new 8mm fuel lines
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 05, 2018, 08:44:37 am at the rear, right the cutout for the 901 shiftrod
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: brewsy on January 05, 2018, 21:56:13 pm Great work Karl.
Have you used oil lines through the spine before? Does it heat up the interior much when you are on a long run or in the summer? Thanks Marc Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 08, 2018, 08:38:55 am i have used oillines in the tunnel before (a lot of people i know did it too) with no adverse effects. keep in mind i am not living in a a very hot climate.
one may try to keep the inspection cover on the framehead open and remove the rubber grommet around the shiftrod so there is air moved through the tunnel. maybe with a hose that takes air through the passenger side horngrill. just a thought... Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 08, 2018, 08:42:42 am notches for the adjustable 944 springplates. i modified my plates with welding the front bolt to the inner springplate-part, so i only need the rear notch to be able to turn the adjuster
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 10, 2018, 07:57:21 am all undercoating scraped off :P
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 12, 2018, 22:29:00 pm Dropped the Pan off and took the body home. Epoxycoated
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 19, 2018, 08:42:08 am closed a zillion pinholes on the body and some perforated metal on the bottom of the doors
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Andrew on January 19, 2018, 09:28:04 am Nice work, wish it had been that easy to paint under my pan....
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: vwhelmot on January 19, 2018, 10:35:53 am Looking great!
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 26, 2018, 07:57:06 am thanx Andrew and Lyndon
i closed all the holes after sandblasting, so the metal parts i have are ready for bondo work. the front hood and right front fender are still at the blaster (along with the pan). got a really nice stock front left fender from a friend and i am on the hunt for a right rear one. since i dont feel like covering up the garage due to the dust involved by sanding everything just now, i will do the pan next. in a couple of days she should be ready, black epoxy and all. so i started on finding and painting the rest fo the chassis parts black Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: vwhelmot on January 26, 2018, 09:08:58 am Getting it done quick mate, flying through it. Keep up the with the updates.
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on February 01, 2018, 07:57:14 am pan is back. some pinholes too >:(, but hey - i have seen worse
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on February 16, 2018, 09:15:45 am a stupid cold stopped me dead in the tracks, but now a im back at it. oil and fuel lines installed
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on February 19, 2018, 07:53:25 am 944 adjustable springplates are in
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on February 19, 2018, 07:55:27 am ...and the narrowed trailingarm with the 944 brake disc
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on February 19, 2018, 07:57:41 am i modified an old 5x130 spacer to accomodate the torquemeister
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on February 19, 2018, 08:00:06 am with the calipers on
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Stevo_L on February 19, 2018, 21:27:44 pm looking good! :o :D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 05, 2018, 08:29:27 am thanx Stevo!
new cunifer brakelines Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 05, 2018, 08:30:05 am in front
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 05, 2018, 08:30:44 am fuel pump mount (left)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 05, 2018, 08:32:20 am mounted my trusty Bilsteins (i had these on a couple of cars). also got some red Konis for the rear, but they seem to be a little bit short
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 05, 2018, 08:33:12 am and the CSP bar with the 901 in
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: vwhelmot on March 05, 2018, 09:37:47 am Great progress Karl.
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: brewsy on March 05, 2018, 22:20:14 pm Looks great Karl.
One suggestion: If you're going to this much trouble then definitely swap out the rubber flexible brake lines for braided steel ones. The feel on the pedal will be WAY better. Cheers Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 07, 2018, 08:24:22 am thanx guys. thinking about the brake lines, we will see
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 14, 2018, 08:04:13 am porsche steelies for making it a roller (if i finally managed to press in the new balljoints for the front beam)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on April 03, 2018, 06:47:00 am still more babysteps, front beam is in
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on April 09, 2018, 08:27:01 am finally managed the new balljoints
brakes are 993 Brembo aluminum calipers Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on June 13, 2018, 07:18:46 am some work on the house stopped me dead in my tracks, so i didnt have the time to work on the car >:( on top of that i will get a knee replacement in a couple of weeks :-\ so that doesnt help either...
oh well, lets see if i can get this thing in primer untill the end of july Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on July 05, 2018, 09:36:26 am putty/sand/putty/sand/putty/sand/repeat and lotsa honey-dos inbetween
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Neil Davies on July 05, 2018, 21:27:01 pm putty/sand/putty/sand/putty/sand/repeat and lotsa honey-dos inbetween I know both of those well! Honey-dos done in advance gain brownie points though... Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on July 06, 2018, 06:57:14 am thats right, but i would never make it to the garage.... ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 18, 2018, 11:35:03 am after weeks of recovering i finally have some progress. one more epoxycoat before the highbuild primer
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 18, 2018, 11:36:14 am ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: vwhelmot on September 18, 2018, 12:56:44 pm Good stuff Karl 👍
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Adsixnine on September 19, 2018, 06:05:36 am Great project
I follow u now hahaha ;D Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 30, 2018, 21:26:28 pm got the body yesterday! paint looks nice 8)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 30, 2018, 21:27:32 pm ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on November 30, 2018, 21:29:10 pm ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: VWGlassee on December 01, 2018, 00:41:25 am That does look nice 8)
Great work! Yannick Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Larry S on December 02, 2018, 17:33:45 pm Sweet! I am supposed to get mine in January....
Larry Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: JerryS on December 02, 2018, 17:39:10 pm Looking great!!
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 07, 2018, 08:10:52 am thanx guys!
burning midnight oil.... Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 07, 2018, 08:12:13 am then disaster struck....
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: vwhelmot on December 07, 2018, 11:49:26 am Whats wrong?
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: leec on December 07, 2018, 14:14:52 pm Beam hit inner wing?
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 07, 2018, 18:15:51 pm no........this followed me home :P (lotus white steelsunroof 67)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Cornpanzer on December 11, 2018, 04:56:17 am Oh my....
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 11, 2018, 08:26:18 am Hi Dave, long time no see... ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 21, 2018, 08:41:51 am so i rolled the 63 out of the garage and covered it up under the carport :'(
hitched the 67 to the rotisserie and fired up the welder.... Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 21, 2018, 08:45:31 am the guy i got the car from has installed new heaterchanels, repairs to go over again, ´couse he started to learn welding on the car me thinks
front apron, spare wheelwell and rear apron have rust, but no holes :o Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 31, 2018, 16:58:42 pm new firewall/luggage compartment is in
happy new year everybody... Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: richie on December 31, 2018, 19:02:13 pm Looks good Karl 8) what brand is that firewall? and how was the fit?
cheers Richie Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 01, 2019, 21:23:53 pm i think its klokkerholm, the fit is good. but its very late model style (mexican beetle) with the hole for the main wiring loom
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 06, 2019, 21:24:02 pm the guy i got the car from ruined parts of all four pillar insides with his brace :P
so lotsa work here Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 06, 2019, 21:25:51 pm some more grinding on little patches and the body is ready for the blaster
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 06, 2019, 21:27:51 pm since there is lotsa wet snow blown under the carport i rolled the pan inside where things got a little cramped
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Cornpanzer on January 10, 2019, 23:12:49 pm There are days when I feel like I have too many projects. Then I pull up this thread and feel better about myself.
;D Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 11, 2019, 07:54:45 am glad i could help ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 31, 2019, 18:37:19 pm blasted and epoxycoated
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on February 15, 2019, 09:20:02 am got the rest of the parts back from the blaster, sanding in the garage is not fun, wearing a mask all the time....
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Larry S on February 15, 2019, 20:09:11 pm looking good, man you work fast!
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on February 16, 2019, 08:54:36 am thanx Larry!
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 21, 2019, 12:02:46 pm body gets paint this week! undersides are allready lotus white
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on April 04, 2019, 21:23:50 pm body is in paint ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: modnrod on April 05, 2019, 03:18:35 am Nice colour in the sun. :)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on April 05, 2019, 15:55:13 pm thanx
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on April 09, 2019, 07:18:31 am body is on the pan....
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: richie on April 09, 2019, 19:49:49 pm Looking good Karl 8), you work quicker than a lot of people that do it as a business ;)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on April 10, 2019, 07:06:42 am believe me, sometimes having a deadline takes a lot of fun out of this.... :P
but seeing it come together always IS fun on the other hand Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on April 30, 2019, 12:06:55 pm some work on the engine and interior
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on May 13, 2019, 13:42:22 pm :)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: vwhelmot on May 14, 2019, 07:30:06 am Coming together. Looking great.
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on July 14, 2019, 17:28:10 pm putting the finishing touches on the 67
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on July 14, 2019, 17:29:19 pm i´d rather be working on this one.....
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on August 07, 2019, 06:41:56 am in the last light of day, yesterday.....
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Cornpanzer on August 31, 2019, 03:09:09 am Wow. Nice!
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 01, 2019, 19:09:51 pm thanx Dave. it sold yesterday ::)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 09, 2019, 08:49:47 am back to the 63 at last
i found a gas steering dampener (not Bilstein, just painted yellow). it feels like a shock, wants to extend all the time. normal steering dampeners dont do that - will it push so hard at the steering that my car wants to go to the right al the time? Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Eddie DVK on September 09, 2019, 09:53:33 am back to the 63 at last i found a gas steering dampener (not Bilstein, just painted yellow). it feels like a shock, wants to extend all the time. normal steering dampeners dont do that - will it push so hard at the steering that my car wants to go to the right al the time? I removed it because of that… worthless piece of crap in my opinion... Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 09, 2019, 10:56:55 am thanx for the info, eddie
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on December 13, 2019, 19:44:40 pm surgery on my left hand went well, but i just have started to be able to use it again for working on the car
headliner and ragtop are in i started on the seats with modified stock brackets Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 04, 2020, 18:14:51 pm the seats are now in. they look a little too far tilted back, but they are very comfortable for my 6.5 frame
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 04, 2020, 18:16:08 pm painted my old bilsteins maisgelb (the original colour)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 04, 2020, 18:19:05 pm upon trying to mount the CSP bar, i discovered the holes for monting the shockbolts are too small on the repair sheetmetal :P
i had to break out the airsaw and cut the painted body >:( >:( >:( oh well... but the rest of the installaton went well Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: dielinde on January 24, 2020, 19:41:50 pm Very very nice Project....
sehr schönes Projekt. Grüße aus Kärnten Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 25, 2020, 10:36:56 am danke/thanx
wrestlin with the interior. the TMI headliner was sewn the wrong way, the pieces round the sunroofopening didnt fit (i used TMI lots of times and that never happened before) so i had to tear out the thing again and custom fit it :P then i had a long search for the right colour of upholstery material to fit the seats. but i found some and made the doorpanels now Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on February 19, 2020, 08:12:59 am for adjusting the clutch i have the waterboxer case in for the first time.
before motor assembly i have to hone the barrels, flycut the heads and change the guides Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: bean on February 19, 2020, 09:58:30 am coming together and looking good
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on February 29, 2020, 20:52:11 pm thanx
started to fit the rear fenders and apron.... when i realized i have painted two right side taillight housings >:( Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 02, 2020, 14:32:31 pm accordingly i broke out the paintgun at the first sight of a warm day and painted another taillight housing, a custommade gloveboxdoor (with a right hand speaker grille) and the fenderbeadings (tacked to pieces of wood)
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 04, 2020, 07:55:52 am playin´around with the stance a little bit
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 20, 2020, 07:43:58 am i have started to prep the engine parts for assembly. this motor is actually meant for my split panel van, but i have all the parts and the split is not finished (see samba thread). the nickie engine still has no heads (lack of funds)
wbx case wbx 76mm crank with h-beams/ 228 flywheel/clutch stock wbx cam with hydraulic lifters type 4 94mm barrels modified for use with wbx studpattern/cylinder spacing etc. new 94mm AA B pistons limbach aircraft heads (wbx stud pattern) with 38/34 valves either 40 (or 46) kadrons or 36/40 solexes from a 914 (got both) exhaust will be a header and custom muffler setup everybody stay safe and stay home Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 21, 2020, 17:40:27 pm modified barrel on the left, stock on the right. lots of grinding
trial fit..... Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Stevo_L on March 21, 2020, 18:23:04 pm is it worth doing all those modifications..
why not simply building an t1? i thought wbx mainbearings are not available anymore? ??? Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 21, 2020, 19:12:30 pm first, i have all the parts, most of them were free ;D
second, for a bus engine i prefer the thick type 4 barrels Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Stevo_L on March 21, 2020, 21:46:42 pm haha ok, all right :D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on May 07, 2020, 10:54:54 am have a problem locating 9mm Type one lenght 9mm stem 34mm exhaust valves, so i didnt do a lot to the motor
but some more work in the interior: rhd speaker grille grafted into the gloveboxdoor with the speaker mounted Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: brewsy on May 07, 2020, 12:04:50 pm i didnt do a lot to the motor but some more work in the interior: rhd speaker grille grafted into the gloveboxdoor with the speaker mounted Nice modification. Is that so you have stereo speakers? I just used one of these.. https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/retromod-speaker-6-5-3-way-dvc-each-r-65n-230-505.html (https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/retromod-speaker-6-5-3-way-dvc-each-r-65n-230-505.html) Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on May 07, 2020, 19:27:31 pm yes, so its stereo, i have tweeters under the headliner left and right
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Eddie DVK on May 08, 2020, 07:09:34 am modified barrel on the left, stock on the right. lots of grinding trial fit..... Nice, did not know that fitted.. Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on May 08, 2020, 10:53:49 am you have to grind some of the coolingfins down between the barrels, modify the headstudpattern to wbx and grind a recess for the pushrodtubes
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: FredH17 on May 12, 2020, 10:06:59 am Great job !! Love the looks..
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: jamiep_jamiep on May 13, 2020, 12:44:41 pm Cool mod for the speaker!
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: VWGlassee on May 24, 2020, 22:57:07 pm What a great idea with the speaker! It's all in the details 8)
Yannick Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on May 25, 2020, 06:22:13 am thanx Yannick
fuel pump and filter mounted and wired, brakes bled, wiring finished, all lights work in case you wonder the 180° turn of the fuel line on the right worried me, so i put an 8mm spring from the rear brake into the line to avoid a kink (happened before) Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Eddie DVK on May 25, 2020, 06:33:28 am in case you wonder the 180° turn of the fuel line on the right worried me, so i put an 8mm spring from the rear brake into the line to avoid a kink (happened before) Have the same configuration, nice solution, maybe going to steel this from you. Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on June 08, 2020, 13:49:07 pm more or less just the motor missing.
buttoned up the shortblock, cylinders and heads to set up rocker geometry. found out somebody messed up the oil drain plug thread. this is in the block, the wbx case has no drainplate :P gotta take the shortblock apart again to helicoil it - dont you love surplus work like this? >:( Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on July 01, 2020, 11:34:46 am the longblock is assembled and i made a merged 1 1/2" header using an old Ansa header and a merged collector
engine is in to fit the exhaust and tin. very necessary, since the engine is an inch back due to the porsche 5speed not going to use the 2" muffler in the pic, it fits the 1 3/4" merged header and would have to be modified. so i orderd a 1 3/4" oval muffler from CSP Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on October 09, 2020, 18:30:13 pm bitch just doesnt want to get finished >:(
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Cornpanzer on May 21, 2021, 03:34:24 am ????
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on May 21, 2021, 07:03:07 am Hi Dave
uh-oh, dont remind me. i had a problem with the hydraulic lifters (waterboxer case - remember), one seems to not want to blow up so after a lot of fucking around i put and AS cases 1600 in it to be able to drive it at last, since the wbx motor ist for this car anyway should be done on the weekend Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on July 14, 2021, 07:11:10 am a few pics, now its completed
still on porsche steelys with 175/70 Dunlops, got to get the Fuchs shod with my new Michelins Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on July 14, 2021, 07:13:11 am still dicussing the new motor, but i will get back to my panel first
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on July 29, 2021, 17:00:01 pm ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 10, 2021, 18:36:13 pm finished at last, first testdrive was pretty nice. before i changed the mastercylinder to a 944 unit
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: brewsy on September 12, 2021, 19:54:02 pm finished at last, first testdrive was pretty nice. before i changed the mastercylinder to a 944 unit Nice!!Was it worse to drive after you changed the mastercylinder then? Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 12, 2021, 21:15:59 pm it worked with the stock one, but due to the axial movement of the discs the pads are pushed back a little and the original mc then had a very long way till it worked
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Steve67 on September 13, 2021, 05:44:09 am Looks nice!
I have similar issues with the brake needing a lot of pedal stroke. What brakes do you have on your car? Does the 944 main cylinder fit without modification? What is the piston diameter? Best regards Stefan Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 13, 2021, 09:47:42 am i habe Brembo 993 front (early two piston aluminum calipers)
944 non turbo rear you have to close the fifth hole at the bottom with a plug, the rest fits as is if you rebend the brakelines i dont know the diameter, but its a lot more than the stock mc i bought this one: https://www.ebay.de/itm/324615336287 its heavy, there are aluminuim ones too, but they are more expensive Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Steve67 on September 13, 2021, 10:29:21 am thanks, I will have a look
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Chip on September 13, 2021, 17:31:25 pm Looks fantastic! Well done
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Brew 66 on September 14, 2021, 02:46:51 am Looks great, do you mind sharing who manufactured the front seats?
Thanks Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on September 14, 2021, 08:20:30 am i bought the seats used, they have a little patina...
the guy i bought them from said he got them from china. they look like cobra seats. Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: bean on September 14, 2021, 11:49:24 am Quote Looks great, do you mind sharing who manufactured the front seats? Thanks just what i was going to ask - they look just right Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 14, 2022, 12:38:47 pm some more improvemts to the running gear
since i had 1° positive camber in the rear and there was not enough adjustment possible with the 944 springplates i had to cut and reposition the arms before: Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 14, 2022, 12:43:23 pm first, to get an even measurement i bolted two steel angle to the lower attachment points of the torsion tubes from the inside, left and right
so i could put a straightedge across the pan that clears the transmount to get the car level Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 14, 2022, 12:47:18 pm next i took a measurement and determined the initial angle, then i removed the rear brakes and the trailingarms from the car. the snubbermounts have to be cut off first.
then a cut parallel to the axle was made, leaving onle the lowermost part were the twwo trailingarm parts meet intact Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 14, 2022, 12:59:16 pm i used the floorjack to move the stubaxle up to these degrees, calculating upon lowering the car down its weight would get me the desired camber
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 14, 2022, 13:01:39 pm i tacked the arm inside the car, then removed it and welded all the way around, followed by the reinstallation of the snubber mounts
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 14, 2022, 13:02:42 pm after: 1° negative camber
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: brewsy on January 14, 2022, 18:53:26 pm Nice job!!
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 14, 2022, 19:13:07 pm thanx
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: bug on January 18, 2022, 22:02:03 pm Very nice and interesting topic about the IRS arms that you narrowed.
Which tire size you have in the back? Flat 6 or deep6 Fuchs? Thank you Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on January 19, 2022, 11:39:19 am the arms are narrowed 25mm per side, the 944 brakes move the wheels out the same 25mm
fuchs are deep 6 with 205/65 michelins Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on March 03, 2022, 12:47:45 pm setting up geometry front and rear. i also did a different 2" muffler
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on April 25, 2023, 09:12:30 am new look with Gasburners
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Steve67 on April 25, 2023, 15:55:36 pm Looks great on the Gasburners!
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on April 25, 2023, 19:07:43 pm thanx Steve
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Larry S on May 01, 2023, 21:52:25 pm Looks Great Karl, you put a lot of work into that car and it turned out great.
Larry Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on May 02, 2023, 08:26:28 am thanx Larry
went to Eggenburg yesterday, 600 aircooled VWs, made top 30 Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on May 02, 2023, 08:33:31 am ;D
Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Larry S on May 02, 2023, 13:07:40 pm Congratulations that is great! I bet that was a lot of fun. I have been to Austria a few years ago and it was an amazing trip. We plan to go back again someday.
Larry Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: Bruce on June 10, 2023, 03:40:47 am new look with real Gasburners Fixed it for you.Title: Re: arctic alice, early sixties cal-look Post by: karl h on June 10, 2023, 13:36:04 pm unfortunately not, sold my real set years ago…
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