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Title: Engine Build Tools
Post by: brewsy on June 05, 2020, 12:59:57 pm
Hi All,
Not that I have a garage, shed or anything like that but I've started to gather some (hopefully) decent tools so that I can make a start on building my dream motor.
I'm looking at the measurement tools that would help correctly measure all the rotating parts and corresponding holes in an AC VW engine.

From the specs it looks like I need around 0 - 100mm measuring ability.

So far I have these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mitutoyo-MT511-902-METRIC-15-150MM-0-001MM/dp/B003U9VY44 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mitutoyo-MT511-902-METRIC-15-150MM-0-001MM/dp/B003U9VY44)
and as its my birthday tomorrow I was going to treat myself to an outside micrometer but it looks like I'll need at least two - 25-50mm and 50-75mm.
Would a 0-25mm be needed as well or will a reasonable set of calipers do that OK?

There is a sale and these guys have Mitotoyo for under £100!
https://www.hroberts-di.com/calipers-c2/mitutoyo-500-196-30-absolute-aos-digimatic-caliper-0-150mm-0-6-p3 (https://www.hroberts-di.com/calipers-c2/mitutoyo-500-196-30-absolute-aos-digimatic-caliper-0-150mm-0-6-p3)

And then a 'standard'. I was thinking a 50mm?
https://www.hroberts-di.com/all-metrology-c49/setting-standards-c131/mitutoyo-167-102-setting-standard-50mm-p2119 (https://www.hroberts-di.com/all-metrology-c49/setting-standards-c131/mitutoyo-167-102-setting-standard-50mm-p2119)

My thinkng is that I can then measure a case, crank etc etc to the point to notice differences and make 'suggestions' to any machinists. I say suggestions as I assume (and hope) that they would measure three times with their own (better) gear anyway!

Is that a fair list of bits and does anybody have any other reccomendations?

TIA,
Marc


Title: Re: Engine Build Tools
Post by: baz on June 05, 2020, 14:55:38 pm
Assume nothing and choose wisely when it comes to machinists


Title: Re: Engine Build Tools
Post by: PPRMicke on June 06, 2020, 10:18:21 am
Hi All,
Not that I have a garage, shed or anything like that but I've started to gather some (hopefully) decent tools so that I can make a start on building my dream motor.
I'm looking at the measurement tools that would help correctly measure all the rotating parts and corresponding holes in an AC VW engine.

From the specs it looks like I need around 0 - 100mm measuring ability.

So far I have these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mitutoyo-MT511-902-METRIC-15-150MM-0-001MM/dp/B003U9VY44 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mitutoyo-MT511-902-METRIC-15-150MM-0-001MM/dp/B003U9VY44)
and as its my birthday tomorrow I was going to treat myself to an outside micrometer but it looks like I'll need at least two - 25-50mm and 50-75mm.
Would a 0-25mm be needed as well or will a reasonable set of calipers do that OK?

There is a sale and these guys have Mitotoyo for under £100!
https://www.hroberts-di.com/calipers-c2/mitutoyo-500-196-30-absolute-aos-digimatic-caliper-0-150mm-0-6-p3 (https://www.hroberts-di.com/calipers-c2/mitutoyo-500-196-30-absolute-aos-digimatic-caliper-0-150mm-0-6-p3)

And then a 'standard'. I was thinking a 50mm?
https://www.hroberts-di.com/all-metrology-c49/setting-standards-c131/mitutoyo-167-102-setting-standard-50mm-p2119 (https://www.hroberts-di.com/all-metrology-c49/setting-standards-c131/mitutoyo-167-102-setting-standard-50mm-p2119)

My thinkng is that I can then measure a case, crank etc etc to the point to notice differences and make 'suggestions' to any machinists. I say suggestions as I assume (and hope) that they would measure three times with their own (better) gear anyway!

Is that a fair list of bits and does anybody have any other reccomendations?

TIA,
Marc

A very good choice for measuring tools
Internal for holes that are 6-10 / 15-20 mm can be good to have as well
/// Micke


Title: Re: Engine Build Tools
Post by: brewsy on June 07, 2020, 15:05:14 pm


A very good choice for measuring tools
Internal for holes that are 6-10 / 15-20 mm can be good to have as well
/// Micke

Thanks Micke


Title: Re: Engine Build Tools
Post by: brewsy on June 08, 2020, 10:35:05 am
Mitotoyu 25-50 & 50-75 micrometers ordered!!  ;D


Title: Re: Engine Build Tools
Post by: Martin S. on June 08, 2020, 21:06:44 pm
If you're going to do any head work there are a few tools to get. Dial indicators are my fav!


Title: Re: Engine Build Tools
Post by: brewsy on June 08, 2020, 21:40:36 pm
If you're going to do any head work there are a few tools to get. Dial indicators are my fav!

No plans for heads just yet Martin!
One day maybe... And then I'll want an air flow meter!!


Title: Re: Engine Build Tools
Post by: Martin S. on June 16, 2020, 15:27:23 pm
You mean one of these? Maybe for Christmas...  ;D

https://superflow.com/product/sf-260-flowbench/


Title: Re: Engine Build Tools
Post by: brewsy on June 16, 2020, 15:55:38 pm
You mean one of these? Maybe for Christmas...  ;D

https://superflow.com/product/sf-260-flowbench/

GULP.
At this list price it'll be a while ;-)

SF-260 Flowbench Flows 260cfm at 10in. of water ............... $5999.00



Title: Re: Engine Build Tools
Post by: PPRMicke on June 16, 2020, 18:27:16 pm
You mean one of these? Maybe for Christmas...  ;D

https://superflow.com/product/sf-260-flowbench/

GULP.
At this list price it'll be a while ;-)

SF-260 Flowbench Flows 260cfm at 10in. of water ............... $5999.00


You don't have to buy a super flo
If you are a little smart
You can build your own for little money Search on google
Link https://www.topplocksverkstan.se/flodesbanken.html

My bench is within <1% difference a super flo
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/// Micke


Title: Re: Engine Build Tools
Post by: brewsy on June 17, 2020, 14:23:14 pm
Cheers Micke.
So there IS a 3rd way..  ;D