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Title: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 24, 2007, 17:09:34 pm
the underdog II
i 've several questions about that car , may be sarge can you answer me about those one ???
what year  is the car ?? 62.63.64 ??? , who had painted the car ??? moly , mc peack ??? , spec of the engine ??? how the car has it finished career ??? race crash, sold to another guys ???
here's some pict i found on the other forum some time ago  ;)
on the 1st pict there's sarge , doug gordon ; and ron fleming & other guy(??) , and 3th it was greg aronson sitting on the front wings of the underdogII


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Matt H on November 24, 2007, 17:13:31 pm
What an awesome car. Love the blue BRMS. Must have been great times back then


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 24, 2007, 17:16:21 pm
another picture from the underdog
little details on the first car dkp racing team stickers was on the decklid ,and on this one it was  below the door  :o
and watch it's uncle ron  behind the wheels


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: lowfastbus on November 24, 2007, 17:17:06 pm
go speedwell go! ;D


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 24, 2007, 17:23:42 pm
when i stole the picture on the other forum there's this one , and they said that was the underdog II before is race car life  :o
truth or lie  ::)


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Liou on November 24, 2007, 17:33:31 pm
another picture from the underdog
little details on the first car dkp racing team stickers was on the decklid ,and on this one it was  below the door  :o
and watch it's uncle ron  behind the wheels
I love sticker coca cola lol


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 24, 2007, 17:38:01 pm
hard launch  ;)


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Liou on November 24, 2007, 17:44:24 pm
Mister sat with his glasses it is which??  he often  took part inch pincher with darren vittone and underdog ron fleming??   


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 24, 2007, 18:17:25 pm
the guy with glasses is doug gordon owner of the underdog I & II , ron is the driver , but i don't understand what you said with darrell vittone ??


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 24, 2007, 18:26:39 pm
underdog at the 71 winternationals at pomona


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: deano on November 24, 2007, 18:40:23 pm
Jim Sibley from Washington painted the #2 car. Once the Tar Babe was finished and raced, the #2 car was parked out back of Fleming & Aronson's shop on Howell street for a long time (no lock or chain). Engine was removed, as were the BRMs, but the decklid was stolen, and later returned. The "remains" of the #2 car were sold to a guy in Compton, who also bought the spare engine from the Baby Huey gasser, through Gene Berg. I worked at F&A at the time, and had the honors of removing any and all signs of the old paint, so no one would ever know what it used to be. I sanded all the lettering off, and primered it light gray. Greg and I added some aluminum work, and put it back together as a complete racecar. The car then ran at Irwindale a few times, and the guy over-revved the engine and bent all the valves. Gene took the engine back to his shop, and that was the last time I recall seeing, or hearing about the #2 Under Dog.


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 24, 2007, 18:44:59 pm
return of the decklid by dyno don at the dkp reunion  ;)


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 24, 2007, 18:48:47 pm
another one from the decklid , but here with the door of the first underdog


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 24, 2007, 18:56:25 pm
another one at race it was at ocir


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Lids on November 24, 2007, 19:22:50 pm
another pic from the other forum


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: nicolas on November 24, 2007, 19:30:13 pm
it is a timeless car because of the graphics in my opinion. it has a very 70's feel to it, but could have been driven this year on the track as well. special machine. like speedwell asked, what kind of engine(s) did it run?



Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: stealth67vw on November 24, 2007, 19:39:10 pm
There is lots of great video footage on the DKP reunion tape. The car had some type of 90/10 shocks up front. It would lift the front end up and keep it there.


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 26, 2007, 15:08:20 pm
Mister sat with his glasses it is which??  he often  took part inch pincher with darren vittone and underdog ron fleming??   
liou the guys  with the glasses is doug gordon owner of the underdog I & II , and the guys who was with darrell vittone was jim bentley   ;)


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Sarge on November 26, 2007, 16:42:46 pm
In Speedwell's first photo, it's Doug Gordon wearing the glasses. Lisa and Ron Fleming (Lisa was Ron's first wife), yours truely, and the "legendary" Stan Davis.  The photo was taken at Pomona.  As for the engine, 78X89 and an Engle 160 cam come to mind.  Those were REALLY the days... ;D


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Sarge on November 26, 2007, 16:56:47 pm
when i stole the picture on the other forum there's this one , and they said that was the underdog II before is race car life  :o
truth or lie  ::)

TRUE... this photo was taken out behind Berg's shop on Lemon St. 


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Sarge on November 26, 2007, 16:59:28 pm
another pic from the other forum

Taken at the 1970 Winternationals at Pomona...Richard Bays is in the Fiat (Little Giant Killer).


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 26, 2007, 17:20:50 pm
thanks for the info jim
here's a pict from the bug in 7 underdog II vs jim dutcher buggy  ;D


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Sarge on November 26, 2007, 17:28:19 pm
Dutcher Buggy = SCARY!!  I saw that car up-close at last year's Bug-In...YIKES!!!  :o :o :o


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 26, 2007, 17:36:06 pm
now is here in belgium  ,  kobus own the buggy  ;) and i licked it


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Sarge on November 26, 2007, 17:40:17 pm


 i licked it


  :o ::) ;D 8)


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: louisb on November 26, 2007, 17:44:32 pm
now is here in belgium  ,  kobus own the buggy  ;) and i licked it

I think Speedwell needs a girl friend to give him something to do with that tongue besides licking VW parts. (Or a good therapist. )  ;D

--louis


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 26, 2007, 18:02:53 pm
eh louis i've a girl friend  :-* , and i love to lick old vw parts that've an history   :P .....;D ;D ;D go to this thread : http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,2738.0.html (http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,2738.0.html)  ::) ::)


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Liou on November 26, 2007, 18:13:17 pm
Mister sat with his glasses it is which??  he often  took part inch pincher with darren vittone and underdog ron fleming??   
liou the guys  with the glasses is doug gordon owner of the underdog I & II , and the guys who was with darrell vittone was jim bentley   ;)

hey fab
you are right and I misled
thanks 


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Sarge on November 28, 2007, 00:25:47 am
One more shot of the future Underdog II languishing behind Berg's shop.


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Sarge on November 28, 2007, 00:37:39 am
Here's a pic of Stan Davis (the guy sitting on my lap in the first photo of this thread) doing his Super 8 thing..."Watch the Birdie!"  ::) :o ;D


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Carlos De Alba on November 28, 2007, 01:42:52 am
Thanks Sarge for all those awesome pictures.....


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: Sarge on November 28, 2007, 02:01:48 am
Thanks Sarge for all those awesome pictures.....

My pleasure, Carlos!


Title: Re: underdog II
Post by: speedwell on November 28, 2007, 02:20:14 am
nice pictures sarge  8)  hope that you have more ;D
 ;) fabs