Title: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: Jon on November 26, 2007, 23:47:44 pm I've seen the car and I just found out he had a MEAN mouse engine that got him into the elevens?!?!
But I have never heard the tale... is there one? (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/144029.jpg) Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: dyno don on November 27, 2007, 01:51:04 am Kris drove that as a street car for many years before crossing over to a full dedicated racer in the mid 70's and yes in fact it had a 1750cc engine(72x88) that pushed it into the 11's with 14:5 compression/ 11.93 E.T. full weight with driver @ 1770 lbs.....later went on into battle with a (78x88)=1900cc combo and ran 11:53 later went to a 84x94 engine that went 11:11 E.T. @ 119 MPH..!!
Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: Matt H on November 27, 2007, 03:39:22 am I think the car now resides in the land of the rising sun
Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: BeetleBug on November 27, 2007, 09:43:31 am Kris drove that as a street car for many years before crossing over to a full dedicated racer in the mid 70's and yes in fact it had a 1750cc engine(72x88) that pushed it into the 11's with 14:5 compression/ 11.93 E.T. full weight with driver @ 1770 lbs.....later went on into battle with a (78x88)=1900cc combo and ran 11:53 later went to a 84x94 engine that went 11:11 E.T. @ 119 MPH..!! Interesting info, thanks. Using a ET calculator found on the www it shows that a 1770lbs doing 11.11 @ 119mph would have approx 235hp. Do you know the MPH he managed with the 72x88 engine on the 11.93 run? Best rgs BB Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: Jon on November 27, 2007, 13:13:46 pm Thanks Dyno and all, the facts are eye openers in more way than I probably realize.
How was this achieved? What revs did this thing see, and who did the heads? I see KRE mentioned on this car, did they have anything to do with it ?? In the lack of something better, any pic’s of the engine? Again Thanks! Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: speedwell on November 27, 2007, 13:32:55 pm jon here's the report of kris's car when he used on the street , the info are in the text
to come , the drag version with the species of the engine ;) Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: speedwell on November 27, 2007, 13:36:57 pm ;)
Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: folkevogn on November 27, 2007, 13:48:32 pm why aren`t I surprised you had some pictures Fabian ;D
Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: speedwell on November 27, 2007, 13:51:42 pm and now race version with the 1751cc 8)
Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: speedwell on November 27, 2007, 13:53:47 pm why aren`t I surprised you had some pictures Fabian ;D you know me ;D ;D they call me the "archivist"Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: speedwell on November 27, 2007, 13:55:16 pm if some one want the report in higher resolution i've , just pm me ;)
Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on November 27, 2007, 14:35:51 pm Here's a Picture of kris's Car just after he took it off the Street Picture was Taken at Bug In
Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on November 27, 2007, 14:44:16 pm and now race version with the 1751cc 8) 1751 CC Mouse Motor? Big Heads by Steve Tims,Big Cam FK89,14.1 Compression,and A Very Close Rato Gear Box, And Lots of RPM going threw the Lights this Combo has Been Proven.Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on November 27, 2007, 17:01:23 pm jon here's the report of kris's car when he used on the street , the info are in the text Hey Theres that DSK Car Again LOL ;)to come , the drag version with the species of the engine ;) Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: dyno don on November 27, 2007, 17:16:13 pm what RPM's you ask..?? going thru the lights at a mere 9K RPM's...and seeing an occasional 10K now and then depending on (missed shifts) or track/tune-up conditions...engine tear down mandatory every 10 passes and trans soon to follow with the 4:87 r/p...KRE was around the corner and were helpful in many ways and the dyno time was most appreciated...heads were a combination of 'steve tims'...'lonnie reed wedgeports'...'autocraft'...and 'superflow'...tims and head shop heads were mainly 42x37 valve sizes...we were the first handful of guys to use (Carter Penleys carbon fiber pushrods) as well as many other innovations for that time period...
Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: speedwell on November 27, 2007, 17:20:50 pm happy to heard some cool story dyno ;)
rgd fabs Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: nicolas on November 27, 2007, 20:43:37 pm cool reports. but i was wondering if the red car from Scott Bakken is Carlos car now???
Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: speedwell on November 27, 2007, 20:56:31 pm no nicolas , carlos's another one that shubee who had that car after scott
;) Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: Bewitched666 on November 27, 2007, 21:45:23 pm Kris Klingaman was the reason i got into dragracing.
Cool topic and inspiration for my mouse engine to be ;D Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: Brian Silva on November 28, 2007, 06:56:51 am Both cars are awesome. Wish I could jump back in time to see these cars go at it. Don't we all?
Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on November 28, 2007, 15:17:13 pm cool reports. but i was wondering if the red car from Scott Bakken is Carlos car now??? the Red Car Was Scott Bakkens but not the same one Carlos has that 67 was mine I bought it from ScottTitle: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: nicolas on November 28, 2007, 17:43:50 pm cool reports. but i was wondering if the red car from Scott Bakken is Carlos car now??? the Red Car Was Scott Bakkens but not the same one Carlos has that 67 was mine I bought it from Scottthanks, so now you still have it or did you pass it on yourself? Title: Re: Kris Klingaman a genuine Mouse Engine racer? Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on November 28, 2007, 21:53:24 pm When Scott had the Red 67 In hot VW's Mag, Calif. Killers it Ran 12:20's it had a 78x90.5 Motor IDA's,1 5/8 Merge, Engle w140 Cam, Welded Big Heads 42x37 ,and A Built Gear Box, When I Bought the Car I Bought it Less Motor Because I Already Had Alot of parts to Build a New Motor after a Few Weeks scott had not sold the Motor so I ended up Buying it from Him I Tore It Down and Went Threw it there were a few things I Changed on the Motor. Motor stayed the same Size, same Cam,same IDA's but I raised the Compression and did some Chamber work on the Heads, stepped up the vents and took it Back To OCIR played with the jetting and got the Car to Run 11:71 and backed it up with a 11:73 this was threw the mufflers with M&H's in the same trim as in the Picture that Scott ran a 12:20 not to Bad for a DSK Street Car ;D ;D When I gave Scott A Ride in it he could not believe the Difference and kept saying to me What did you do to this Thing? LMAO Im not Tellin ;D ;D Other then some Old School Know How ;D I can Say When You Hang Out At Racers Steve Tims and Roger Crawford Shops you pick up on Speed Secrets ;D ;D
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