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Title: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 21:54:47 pm Post your best idea of 1980's killer street and strip 1776 guys....
no fair using MSD and CNC heads...etc. ;D Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: louisb on December 07, 2007, 22:28:36 pm 110 cam
44 webers Mofoco heads bergman shortblock 009 Empi 4 tip exhaust chrome engine tin ;D ;) --louis Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 22:41:34 pm 110 cam 44 webers Mofoco heads bergman shortblock 009 Empi 4 tip exhaust chrome engine tin ;D ;) --louis ::)......sigh.... ;D I was thinking of something like Dumper's motor.... Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:20:49 pm I guess I will get ball rolling:
90.5 Cima's VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case Polished stock 311B rods Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel Engle K8 or even FK-10 11.5:1 FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary 48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar Vertex locked mag 1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black Santana power pulley Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: speedwell on December 07, 2007, 23:23:56 pm I guess I will get ball rolling: how many HP ??90.5 Cima's VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case Polished stock 311B rods Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel Engle K8 or even FK-10 11.5:1 FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary 48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar Vertex locked mag 1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black Santana power pulley Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Frank LUX on December 07, 2007, 23:25:32 pm Hi Fab,
I personally that this motor should give 180HP... Frank Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:31:37 pm I guess I will get ball rolling: how many HP ??90.5 Cima's VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case Polished stock 311B rods Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel Engle K8 or even FK-10 11.5:1 FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary 48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar Vertex locked mag 1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black Santana power pulley 38 ;D Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Frank LUX on December 07, 2007, 23:32:40 pm Hey Guys,
This is what the Old Motor in Nico's Muppet Racer was... VW Case Welded counterweigted Crank, VW 69mm Mahle 90.5 P/C's with Total Seal 2nd Rings Engle FK-10 Cam Straight Cuts Steel/Steel Scat Lifters Scat 1.25 Rocker...Measured out to be 1.35 Weber 48IDA's Skat Trak Manifolds Joe Hunt Magneto Santana Pulley 12.5 Flywheel HEADS done by Steve's VW Shop (Mr. LGK on the Lounge) ;) ;D ;D 40x35.5 Manley S/S Valves Dual Berg Springs 9.5 CR!!!! Motor pushed out 165 HP!!! Far from Max HP potential, but too low a CR at that Moment... ;) Frank Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Frank LUX on December 07, 2007, 23:36:03 pm I guess I will get ball rolling: how many HP ??90.5 Cima's VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case Polished stock 311B rods Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel Engle K8 or even FK-10 11.5:1 FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary 48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar Vertex locked mag 1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black Santana power pulley 38 ;D ??? ??? ;D ;D ;D Frank Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:41:58 pm just having fun buddy...
(just wait until PUI time later with mega beer) ;D Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Frank LUX on December 07, 2007, 23:46:35 pm just having fun buddy... (just wait until PUI time later with mega beer) ;D Me No Compredee, Maybe Too Much of This Shit... ;) ;D ;D Oooops, sorry Wrong Tread... ;D ;D ;D Frank Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:49:25 pm now I am thirsty Frank!! ;D
Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Frank LUX on December 07, 2007, 23:52:11 pm now I am thirsty Frank!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D BTW, All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew.... Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me.... ;D ;D ;D Frank Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: louisb on December 08, 2007, 00:02:54 am I guess I will get ball rolling: 90.5 Cima's VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case Polished stock 311B rods Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel Engle K8 or even FK-10 11.5:1 FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary 48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar Vertex locked mag 1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black Santana power pulley 40 x 35.5 heads by FF. Bump the comp up another notch too. W 130 cam --louis Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: cameron shorey on December 08, 2007, 00:18:55 am One of the nastiest 1776cc motors I have ever had the pleasure of meeting, was built by Doug Berg, for as a sprint car class motor. K10 cam, Berg rockers, huge heads, 48IDAs, very large sump. I don't know what the horsepower was. But Doug took me for a test ride, on the street, while the motor was in the S Muffin. We "cruised" around for quite a while. And to say the least... I was amazed. Very high revving, and built to stay at high revs for a long time.
Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 08, 2007, 01:02:35 am ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D BTW, All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew.... Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me.... ;D ;D ;D Frank You cant ruin Single Barrell with Coke!! Especially diet!!! Single Barrell only gets a splash of water!!!!!!!!! ;D Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Frank LUX on December 08, 2007, 01:07:23 am ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D BTW, All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew.... Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me.... ;D ;D ;D Frank You cant ruin Single Barrell with Coke!! Especially diet!!! Single Barrell only gets a splash of water!!!!!!!!! ;D Well, I just did It again... ;) ;D ;D Sorry, Frank Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: lawrence on December 08, 2007, 03:23:31 am ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D BTW, All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew.... Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me.... ;D ;D ;D Frank You cant ruin Single Barrell with Coke!! Especially diet!!! Single Barrell only gets a splash of water!!!!!!!!! ;D Now yer talkin' Zach! Hey Frank what is with the straw ??? ;D Friday nights probably have the highest percentage of PUIs :D I should crunch some numbers and...naw F it time for a beer. Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Soda on December 09, 2007, 19:36:03 pm Hey Jim do you still have your old web cam 86c. If you do I would like to buy. I also need to find a good set of 48 idas if you know anybody that has some or maybe the new ida. I still have a World Pac account. I think its time to freshen up the old motor. Im thinking new set of scat rods different cam and as much compression as I can get out of that motor.
Bryan Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: stealth67vw on December 09, 2007, 22:35:30 pm You know how this one ran Jim ;)
1776 90.5 Cimas 69 mm DMS crank Rimco 13 lb flywheel Berg 6.5 lb power pulley Engle W125 w/Magnum gears Tayco racing lifters VW 1.25 rockers/ Berg Solid shafts 9.3:1 CR welded & ported 40 x 35.5 heads, dual springs, ti retainers Berg/Stinger S4 ignition 1 5/8 w/ dual qps 48 IDAs w/37 vents 135 mains Scat Trak tall manifolds & Berg linkage Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: stealth67vw on December 09, 2007, 22:37:13 pm Hey Jim do you still have your old web cam 86c. If you do I would like to buy. I also need to find a good set of 48 idas if you know anybody that has some or maybe the new ida. I still have a World Pac account. I think its time to freshen up the old motor. Im thinking new set of scat rods different cam and as much compression as I can get out of that motor. Bryan I have an 86B new in box for ya Bryan. Cheap for you ;D PM me. Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 09, 2007, 23:28:44 pm Hey Jim do you still have your old web cam 86c. If you do I would like to buy. I also need to find a good set of 48 idas if you know anybody that has some or maybe the new ida. I still have a World Pac account. I think its time to freshen up the old motor. Im thinking new set of scat rods different cam and as much compression as I can get out of that motor. Bryan Hi Bryan, nope Darrel has my old hard weld 86C... :( Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 10, 2007, 20:34:16 pm Derek's short-lived 1776 ran very hard, where your 044's ended up John.
Talk about a budget motor too... your welded 40 x 35 heads, Engle K8 advanced 4 deg, .020/.020 cwt crank, 12lbflywheel, 9.8:1, 48IDAs with 36mm vents. Thing was an animal until the cheap straight cut Bugpack gear came loose on crank. :'( Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: kafercup on December 12, 2007, 01:46:00 am Yeah, that motor was kind of fun until the cam gear nightmare. :-\
The original BH special 1776 in the car with the Engle 100 and 48 IDA's really put up well with tens of thousands of miles while being abused :) And it actually ran nicely with that combo :D Next motor will be much more fun ;D ;D Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 12, 2007, 01:47:35 am Yeah, that motor was kind of fun until the cam gear nightmare. :-\ Next motor will be much more fun ;D ;D ya think? ;D Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: kafercup on December 12, 2007, 01:49:58 am Yeah, that motor was kind of fun until the cam gear nightmare. :-\ Next motor will be much more fun ;D ;D ya think? ;D Yes I do James, yes I do. 8) Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 12, 2007, 01:52:51 am umm...? ;D
Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: kafercup on December 12, 2007, 01:57:16 am (http://www.vw-youngtimer.pl/forum/images/avatars/1087891530464c0aed508a7.jpg)
Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 12, 2007, 01:59:23 am ha hahaha ;D that's gonna be your neighbors once this thing comes to life.
Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: kafercup on December 12, 2007, 02:09:40 am I'll just anonymously deliver boxes of these to their mailboxes and hope they get the clue ;D
(http://www.aqua-gear.com/images/mackearplugs.jpg) Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 12, 2007, 17:32:45 pm we need a new thread for your street killer, Derek....
headsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheadsheads.... ;D Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: The Ideaman on December 13, 2007, 01:59:41 am You guys are sissies! :P
94x64 with custom (2 ring?) pistons A set of Heads Up! welded heads and intakes, narrow stems and possibly LS1 springs. Titanium valves and rods. Crank would be a Bryant or Moldex with wing shaped counterweights. roller cam with net lift over .800 @ the valve. Vacuum pump engine would have to be able to spin 10k. 4.86r/p and close gears (and a couple extra in the trailer for when they let go)in a 67 sedan for ss/fs Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Jim Ratto on December 13, 2007, 02:00:50 am they had all that stuff in the 80's?
Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: The Ideaman on December 13, 2007, 03:10:49 am Okay, everything but the vacuum pump. Instead, it will have an oil accumulator and Vasco triples.
Should be pretty streetable with the low gears. Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: ugly duckling on December 15, 2007, 06:11:23 am here lets put these tolit holes on your littel toy that will bring your rpm up to buzzzzz! saw range!.i had them on a 1805 65X94 the thing started to make steam at 7 and sounde real happy up at 10.000 but needed more carb. UD
Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Bewitched666 on December 15, 2007, 12:05:10 pm Damn,what kinda heads are those,self made or some oldhead unknown to me? ;D
Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: redbluebug on December 15, 2007, 21:19:45 pm here lets put these tolit holes on your littel toy that will bring your rpm up to buzzzzz! saw range!.i had them on a 1805 65X94 the thing started to make steam at 7 and sounde real happy up at 10.000 but needed more carb. UD Forget the egg fitting thru the port, you could suck the whole chicken thru those ports :o Nice work ;) Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: The Ideaman on December 16, 2007, 03:26:58 am here lets put these tolit holes on your littel toy that will bring your rpm up to buzzzzz! saw range!.i had them on a 1805 65X94 the thing started to make steam at 7 and sounde real happy up at 10.000 but needed more carb. UD I bet that thing idled at 2k, at least. Heard stories of Comp Eliminator motors with 4" bores and 2.7" strokes that won't take a load on a dyno under 5-6k.Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: stealth67vw on December 16, 2007, 06:11:07 am here lets put these tolit holes on your littel toy that will bring your rpm up to buzzzzz! saw range!.i had them on a 1805 65X94 the thing started to make steam at 7 and sounde real happy up at 10.000 but needed more carb. UD Probably ran like a pre hippy/earth first super flusher toilet huh Jeff? Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: nicolas on December 16, 2007, 07:08:42 am here lets put these tolit holes on your littel toy that will bring your rpm up to buzzzzz! saw range!.i had them on a 1805 65X94 the thing started to make steam at 7 and sounde real happy up at 10.000 but needed more carb. UD Probably ran like a pre hippy/earth first super flusher toilet huh Jeff? somehow i have clear memorypictures of that description... ::) Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Rick Meredith on December 25, 2007, 04:26:28 am Here's what my 1776cc looked like in the early 80s.
Cima 90.5 with total seal rings Heads by ported The Head Shop. Cant's remember valve sizes. Berg Shafts and valve adjusters. Berg Counteweighted Crank. Carillo Rods (Stock Length) 14 lb flywheel VZ35 cam H Case with all the typical mods done by rimco 48IDAs on Skat-Trak talls 1 3/8" merged 4 Tuned header Offset cooler Bosch 010 Red Coil Title: Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go! Post by: Worm on January 23, 2008, 22:26:45 pm Hmmmm, I went a bit different way trying to fool the "weber" crowd.
90.5 Cimas Berg 69mm crank Polished rods balanced toe to toe. heads by DOUG Berg massive non welded ports 38X42 matched manifolds with..... Tah Dah... Kadrons! Yes, kadrons. Doug tore them apart and jetted and gutted them just so. This motor in my 63' vert blazed! I however did not build this motor myself I bought it. I bought it from a local tranny builder that was low on funds named Dave Foltz. Is he still around? This was the fastest Kadron motor... OMG it was fun to have the guys lift my decklid and immediately snap to say "I'll race yah yeah!" Then weber boy would be sad. granted I was not running against 48's. But the 1776's with 42's and 44's, I was in. Now Dyno Don and I had some days discussing whose Kadron motor was faster.... My vert or his Notch. Worm |