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Hey man, tell us all your big secrets...hahahah   ;D

it's ok.....you can tell us....what did you buy?  :D

i forgot the name, but i got told they BOTH look like this one  ;)

(http://www.webcon.co.uk/newitems/images/48IDA1.jpg)

"made in italy"  ;D

Good, because that one speaks spanish!! ;D

Hehe, sorry the ad has already been deleted.
Gotta wait for mr postman to take a pic of my own  ;)

Back on line dude - Come on dude we need some more spec's   ;) :)

yeah dude, spec us. I am scared!  :D

ok ok.  ;)
i am scared as well!!!!   ;D ;D

this is what we're looking at right now

1915;
full flowed AS41 case
69mm c/w crank
refurbished stock VW rods
still debating cam choice, but i'm leaning towards a w130  :o
magnum straight cuts
chromoly pushrods
ported 043 heads with 40x35 valves
48 IDAs on tall-ish manifolds
30mm oil pump
my 1 1/2" bugpack merged header and dual QPs
12lbs 200mm german flywheel
kennedy stage 1
kush lock clutch

did i miss anything?

apart from the tayco linkage, glossy black fanhouse with chrome elements. woohoo  ;D

COOL dude!

should come out nice!

no stop posting here and get that thing build! (look who  is talking)

Looking good Diederick.  Another IDA driver here in the "neigbourhood"....  :P
I only live 1 mile away from the dutch border so....  ;D

If I remove my turned sidepanel I will provide you the "afmetingen"  :D

Dem

go go go D!

Mayby you have to choose for 42x37 valves because the big carbs, and a 1 5/8 header..

And lose that kush lock. ;)

i've already got the clutch lying at home, came with the pressure plate :)

i don't think i'm going for larger valves, i initially intended to go with stock size valved heads - as well as a stock clutch etc.
i've upgraded the plans enough for now  ;)

perhaps i'll throw in a stroker crank and larger heads  ;)

and thanks dem, i'll be looking forward to that!!

I've gotten my hands dirty on a few 1914's over the years, Died's is following in the footsteps of one of my very favorites....Sheep's.

I think the combination of 40 x 35 heads, with conservative ports, along with the healthy overlap of the K8 or the W130, and the potential of the 48's is going to make for one hell iof a screamer.

Hi Diederick,

don't worry buddy, that Engle 130 is going to give you that ragged edge you are looking for, yet, still be a streetable screamer. It isn't just the cam that makes or breaks a motor.   ;)

Jim

Did you already bought this stuff, or is it your Dream Sheet???

That spec sheet is nice, Diederick. I have a 1914 that is very similar and it is FUN ride :o

With some work on the heads the IDA's shall do fine.

To make it really scream Died hook in a close ratio gearbox ;D

Hurry, let's say i've got half of that list sorted out already.
Thanks Lawrence!

Nice!
This look like a post I will follow with a lot of attention. I was thinking of this kind of engine combo as well....or maybe with a 76 crank.
Keep the uppdate on!

And not be able to drive it anywhere  ::)

First true third gear Zach ;D

My IDAs are almost here :

We attempted to deliver your item in NETHERLANDS at 12:43 PM on December 31, 2007.

 ;D

whats the power gonna be? are 48s streetable and what mpg <if any> likely to be? ::)

i have no idea, i am a rookie when it comes to those queries  ;)

did i ever post this pic?
i came across it just now  ;D

(http://www.cal-look.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/IMG_1419.jpg)

Nice shot Diederick.  I can squint and pretend its what my car might look like some day.

Idas are streetable if jetted correctly and with the correct venturi's

Like Jim said i would stick with the 40x35.5 heads Died

Power will be near 120 hp i assume.

With the heads that Sander suggested 42x37 and some other stuff i ran my drag 1914 with 160 hp ;D

i'm not settling for 120hp to be honest  :o

Wow, I'll keep my fingers crossed :)
Your setup seems nice for me :) Hope I'll swap my dells for IDAs someday... But a little welding and a respray gotta go first :(

A 1914cc of mine is just waiting for a first oil&filter change :D It's damn cold now here in Poland and cannot force myself for that few minutes in the garage... 
Hope my gearbox will last till the season. The diff seem to get a little loose.

You ought to make more than 120 HP, I run a similar engine (40 x35.5 slightly ported) and get confirmed 118 HP @ 5800 rpm out of it with a set of Dellorto DRLA 40 (34mm Venturies) and a small 1 ½” Thunderbird Single Quiet Pack. This engine will be replaced by a Turbo Engine this season ;D and I will recycle my motor in my 181 ;). I will swap the carb setup for a set of 45 DRLA’s with 36 or 38 mm venturies and an 1 5/8” A1 sidewinder. I am curious to see if I gain a couple horses. Oh by the way I run a WebCam 110/163 and I am loving it. A lot of low end torque and very snappy above 4500 rpm. It is great to drive.
Happy new year to you all!

Cheers Dom  8)

will be one fierce motor- thats for sure. drove around 1914 with fk87 and it was basically unbeatable. i agree keep ports reasonable and cam it up and when you drop the hammer- strong signal to carbs and away you go. should be a rush. don't stuff big venturies in it or you'll spoil the tune jim is going for. 130 cam is perfect for hot 1776-1914 like what your doing. evrybody thinks 110 cam is way to fly- well maybe in a camper bus

dom, your engine sounds like a nice driver and i'm sure it's gonna get some extra power from that upgrade.
and syncro de mayo, and FK87 would be kind of wild, but i get your point. i'm hoping it will be an awesome cam  ;)

i finally got to see my IDAs today and here they are:

(http://www.cal-look.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Post_003.jpg)

now they're aren't 100%
on one carb there is nothing to connect the linkage to and both are missing that cover to go in between the stacks.

(http://www.cal-look.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Post_005.jpg)

(http://www.cal-look.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Post_006.jpg)

well, i'll just go back and babysit them for a while.
drop me a note and i'll be back after a drink with my 2 new italian friends  ;D

ciao!

Hey that stuff you need for those Italian friends are easy to come by.

No worries.

Sweet! I loved when i got mine!

Left one on my desk and one on my mantelpiece for quite a while. And then they got on an engine, much better!  ;D

I just grabbed of my Italian buddies to inspect the writings on him:

Carburatore Weber
Bologna
Italy
48 IDA 4 K9

Then I grabbed a few screwdrivers and unscrewed some parts to check for some numbers - now, I don't have an explosion drawing at hand so I don't quite know what is what.

But I unscrewed the few things under that cap that I do not have;
F7 Emulsion Tubes with something 155 in them. Am I right that the emulsion tubes are in between the main jet extensions and the main jets? So, that means I've got 155 mains.
Then the ones in the corner (still under the cap) read 120 and F10/70.
Edit: 120 Idle Jet Holders and 70 Idle jets? Mmh, that would be a bit too large for me.

Funnily I'm using the CB website for reference cos they have pictures that go with the parts.
So, that's my only reference  :D

Anyway, thought I'd give an update  ;)

Try this website http://www.racetep.com/weber/48IDA.pdf

I'm looking for manifolds for my IDAs.

And I'm in doubt between "empi racing manifolds" and CB big beefs. Empi are a few lbs heavier, and big beefs are cheaper. I can also buy bugpacks at that shop, but they definitely look too thin for porting.

Can anyone recommend either of the 2?

Oh, and I might end up not going with a 30hp fanshroud, so they have to clear...

or perhaps short manifolds, but that might not be a good idea seeing to it that i already have a hot cam. i might need tall manifolds.

but does a tayco/bugpack linkage work with short manifolds too?

I miss saying I have a pair of these:
(http://www.cal-look.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Post_003.jpg)

Kevan :'(

Hey, I really like your car.  I have made a 1915cc for my car last summer and I just ordered Italian 48 IDA's for it.  I have an Eagle W 120 cam and SCAT Mini D-ports.  I hope it 'll all run very smootly.  To run the engine in I put my old 40 mm Dell'Orto's on top and with those carbs, the car runs great, but hey, I love the sound of straight cut timing gears, 48 IDA's and a Dynomax muffler, so I had to give it a try.  Good luck with your engine...

Regards,

Philip
Flatline-Lowriders
Belgium

I would go with the CB's Died.

Btw how much hp are you looking for? 8)

I took mine over to my unit on Saturday to show a couple of friends who are into Golfs. They think a 32/36 is a decent size carb... ;)

thanks for the kind words philip!
i went for the CBs and i'm hoping for around 140hp  ;D

-fingers crossed-

140?     ::)

wimpy   ;D

I will also use short manifolds because I hate to cut the velocity stacks and I want to keep my decklid closed...

Cool Died,would think 150 is possible with the right work ;D

I'm just looking at distributors, even though I now have an 009. I quite fancy either an 010 or 019, can anyone tell me which suits my specs better? Perhaps it helps to mention that this engine will rev to 7,000rpm. ;D

Well, a magneto would be coolest I guess. But I don't know much about them... ;)

010 or 019 ???

I figured I could even contribute more by saying that after a search I did find 019 is for the smaller engines, 010 for medium to large cc. And 010 helps more in the low rpm due to its curve.

Is it true? So, should I then opt for an 010 because of my wild-ish cam choice?

From what Ive read the 019 has a similar advance curve to that of the 009... the 010 comes on much sooner, making low rpm driving more funn :)

009 with petronix(electonic ignition) is the VERY VERY good - I have not touched mine since I fitted it about 3 years ago - it has NEVER let me down  :)

Always good to have some books !  ;)
I could really recommend "how to hot rod VW engines" from Bill Fischer. BUY it !!! Such a nice and informative book. There were many infos,tricks and thoughts included which were new to me...And as every good book you really get all the infos the second time you read it...
Go with a 010 or a 019 with one spring much better as the "new" 009. And don`t forget the BIG advantage of the LOOK with a 010/019 ;D
But be carefull if you go with an 019 and one spring when you set the ignition. As you see the 019 begins to advance before 1000 U/min. So a static ignition set would be best. And even check the totall advance when engine is running on higher rpm`s allways a point that is often missed.

Greetz

VERY interesting dude - thanks for scaning it in  :)

i've got that book, but my brother has it...
i'll read through this later tonight. thanks felix!

i had that advice from John Rayburn as well. but it was for my 1641. don't know how it relates to a 1914 engine, but it worked really really well. much better then the 009 with petronix or compufire.

http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?topic=2484.0

that was the topic if it helps.

010 Died or mallory ;D

what advice nicolas?
i'm sorry stanford, but it won't be a mallory, ever  :-\

to use a 019 with only one spring. responded very well and drove like a charm.

Why not Died,msd is a good option too 8)

ok, that might be worth looking into then!!

sorry, mallory and msd all too new for my liking ;)

You could get a new Mallory and put a Treuhaft badge on it. Modern performance, vintage looks :)

mmh, i have been thinking about a treuhaft 010 or mallory YL-541 dual point.
do you know anything about those, zach?

I had a dual point once, sold it on ebay. Ive heard they arent really neccessary, more complexity for zero benifit. Slinger has the Treuhaft 010 on his single cab, with a Mallory ignition conversion. It works great, but it would be much less hassle to get a brand new distributor and put an old badge on it. No one will ever know your secret, and Ill take it to the grave with me ;)

Stop wining around and build the motherfucker. Who cares about the decal on the distributor.

alright :)

well, i'd have to see who can lock out my 009. then i'll run a bosch red coil. and get an MSD 6A(L) at a later stage.
but i need to lock out my 009 because of the revs going over 6,000 right?

thanks for the input harry, didn't know that's what you think about it  ;)

wow, good job! ;D

jim, PM sent.

Oh ok Died forgot you wanna go for that old skool callook am i right?

Like they said the 009 or 010 is great ;D

Hey Died , how s it going with your engine dude?
isnt it finished yet ?
 :P

haha, haven't started yet.
i'm waiting for the parts, then I'll get cracking :)

Plus on a '67 you can use the reverse lights!  ;)

USPS Track and Confirm:

We attempted to deliver your item in NETHERLANDS at 10:38 AM on May 12, 2008.


Too funny, it's only the 10th where I live  :D

Diederick, I will be emailing progress on your heads.

Jim

UPS is funny Died ;D

well, got all those few parts a few days ago.
sent out my pulley, crank, flywheel and kennedy plate to get it all balanced (and flywheel lightened to about 11.5 to 12lbs)

and i had a good chat about my parts etc.
what are the opinions on a 30mm oil pump? i was told that it'll be too much, the relief on the pump cover will be openend at all times and the oil cooler in the shroud won't get any oil because all the oil will be pumped out (full flow). this is with 15w40 oil which i'm planning to use. and the oil pressure will exceed 5 bar (80psi) meaning i'll have to get a new guage too.

anyway, what are the opinions? apparently i would've been better off with a 26mm...

You know my opinion dude a 30mm is perfect - but mines still BIGGER  ;) :D :)

oh yeah I've also moved up to 20/50 valvoline  :)

Diederick the 30mm pump will work
I have run a 30mm pump in every engine over 1600cc since 1990
I don't use bypass covers.
I wouldn't have set your engine up as a unit with a 30mm if it would not have worked.
(that case ran a 30 for 17 years, why change something that worked?)

email me

i did :)
awaiting your response, mr ratto ;)

Died,where do you get your stuff balanced?

Btw nice to have seen you at the KCD 8)

abc tuning in hazerswoude

http://www.abctuning.nl/ (http://www.abctuning.nl/)

Oh ok Died,nearby me then,will check them out.Thnx dude 8)

my ida's have been rebuilt by martijn!

(http://www.cal-look.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/IDAs.jpg)

(http://www.cal-look.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/IDArebuild.jpg)

(http://www.cal-look.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/IDAprogression.jpg)

(http://www.cal-look.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/IDArebuild2.jpg)

well chuffed ;D

Bellissimo! ;D

Looking good dude  ;D

yeah! thanks guys ;D
awesome job by martijn!!

3 queries popped up today.

- what's the general opinion on aftermarket 36hp shrouds?
i prefer the look, and i'd need to mod my VW doghouse to a 181 to use it. i know bugpack sell 36hp shrouds? but those don't have provision for heater flaps etc, right?

- what kind of spark plugs should i use with my 043 heads? there's short and long reach and W7 and W8...

- does the use of an MSD 6AL make a pertronix kit for my 009 redundant?

heard the aftermarket stuff sucks,look for original Died 8)

i heard SOME don't, and a sh*tload of people use them
just looking for some answers here dude ;)

Hi Diederick,

043s orig. came with short spark plugs.I even have 043s (sadly with stock valves ;) and have good experience with the Bosch W7AC Sparks. So one point colder than the orig W8AC sparks. I once tryed similar NGK but had problems with them...

Greetz !

Hi Diederick,

A few years ago I swapped my stock doghouse cooler to an aftermaket 36hp one...
It was on a 1835 that performed great, sadly after installing the aftermarket cooler it became to warm on the highway and toasted the engine  >:(

Jelle

you mean after installing the aftermarket fanshroud?

yep

Hey Dieds your heads use long reach 3/4" plugs I suggest NGK B7ES copper core
you can use the Petronix with MSD. MSD makes spark hotter, the Petronix is just a "timing device" it does nothing to increase spark output. Basically eliminates point maintenance....that's it.
The MSD increases voltage to coil primary and in turn cranks up secondary output.
gap the plugs @ .035"

Died, forgot this topic  :o  You're carbs are being sent today! they came out nicely! all progression hole line up perfect. Good luck with the monster

Thanks for responses!
I'm still interested in an aftermarket 36hp fanshroud. I see many DKP guys run them and other people with HIPO engines. So, they cannot be that bad, right?

as long as you are not using Berg Fan Shroud Mounted Linkage the aftermarkets are alright but not great in the fitting department there is no mounting hole for the coil or berg linkage plus the aftermarket shrouds have an offset gen/alternator hole if you use berg linkage you will have to slot all the holes in the linkage to make it fit.

No big deal IMHO, You have to slot the hole in the middle, and make mounts for the coil. Works just fine for me.

yeah, i found out about the holes on the shroud i used on my (failed) kadron 1600 last summer. but i'm using they tayco/bugpack IDA linkage and i'm planning on mounting coil on the firewall.

about the fitting, there are these spacer to go in between the house and the cylinder tins. might as well get those then.

still, do they not have inferior cooling performances?

 I run an aftermarket 36 shroud on my car.  drilled a hole and welded a nut before powder coat for berg linkage. I have no cooling issues with mine. As far as original I don't think you'll find an original 36 Doghouse shroud. They don't exsist.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/YAVE123/P1030264.jpg)

getting somewhere:

(http://www.cal-look.nl/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/normal_29062008193.jpg)

pulley, crank (gears and bearings installed), flywheel (about 11.5lbs), and pressure plate all balanced.

now only take time and assemble it  :)

Diederick is a student,so he got lots of time. :o

me too a student,I also wonder how long my build will take once I start

Wish you luck Diederick!

after some bad news about already acquired parts that turned out useless, and lots of other costs that i have to incur, i have slowed down the pace of building this engine.

lately, i bought a cagero oil cooler, got a 36hp fanshroud and some small parts.

i still need a few small parts;
i'm looking for an electric fuel pump. i'm using IDAs and stock fuel lines. which one is recommendable?

also, i have not yet decided whether to run teflon clips or not.
are copper exhaust gaskets any good? i'm thinking of getting those.

I hope none of "my" old parts have been deemed "useless." I know about the rods. Any other issues?

The tru arc clips or spirol lox work fine, but spirol lox can be a real bitch to get out.
I use high temp silicone on my header instead of gaskets.

the rods were shot, and i need a new merged header.
no, your parts are great and in good hands  ;)

hurry up with that engine. I need some competion in the club.

always the fastest is boring ;)

Stock Fuel line with electric pump to feed IDA's,  are you nuts ?
Cagero, that must have cost a small fortune.
Teflon Buttons, no p.
I use thick paper gaskets with high temp silicone.

I'm working on it outside the club... Just need some skulls for the engine. Hopefully DDD6.

some people with well-known cars run stock fuel lines and a stock fuel pump to feed their IDAs ;)
cagero coolers aren't that expensive, they cost more than the average 72 plate cooler but do come with a nifty louvered mount!

high temp silicone, will loctite 574 do?

does nobody run these copper gaskets? they don't cost that much more...

Died, do yourself a favour and run at least -6 fuel lines. It's all gas volume! And you will not lean your engine out that quick.
HT Silicone, as long as it is orange or red.
I did run coppers, but got tired of annealing them every time, plus after the second use they are completeley flat and don't seal that good anymore.

H.

ditto. Why risk holeing your 94's and blowing heads off by leaning your engine out? At least go to 7mm VW hose or as Harry said, AN6. You can create an expensive problem by trying to cheap out on hoses?

The copper gaskets NEVER worked on my car. I use Peramtex High temp copper on header flange and bolt to heads....never any leak.

I think you are worrying a little too much dude  ;) :) just get some 8mm braided fuel line from ANY vw parts place (ie PATS etc) and run that the WHOLE length of the car - its what me Gav and Rob have all done and it works PERFECTLY  :)

You really are not gonna hole a piston just by having a standard type fuel line - I might be wrong but I think that has alittle more to do with jets, tunning, timing etc etc etc  ;) :)

Just look at what they "Used" to run with :)

yes 8mm VW hose or BMW hose will work fine. No need for expensive AN6 braided hoses. Just get matching banjos for your IDAs and a tee.

But stock 5mm hose will restrict your engine at load and create lean/heat problem. Been there, had the problem, fixed the problem.... a long time ago.  8)

Just did the plumbing on my engine - used Weatherhead hose - marine approved - double wall - 3/8 hose = 6an - easy to get push on fittings and very durable - very easy to use.

easy like you

Only easy if your lucky  :D

i have a fuelpump (electric one) and i might consider swapping back to a original one, but i have a fuel injection case and no hole to put a pump, but it has less problems regarding too much pressure. i think Jim kurlinski runs a stock pump on his 2.2l engine. so it can work. but i read somewhere here on the lounge or in a magazine an article about setting the pump up so it will run as efficient as possible. and i got hoses from Gates, they are good quality and fit tight. don't really care for braided ones as they look messy with regular clamps and get dirty real fast. and they are not better then the rubber ones.

still need those teflon buttons? i wee them in all the catalogs were you can buy parts.

Eey Died, do you allready have electricity in the garage? I just orderd my first parts for my 1915 so we can have a race :D

what's my price on hoses for my dellortos i want 8mm parker hose

i know that there's a lot of people that run their hot vw engines with ida's using the stock fuel lines and stock fuel pump. i'd like to do the same, so perhaps i need to change plans?

ask phillip from the flatline lowrider i know he have a stock fuel pump with 48 ida
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here's is profile with hte e mail adress

http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?action=profile;u=88 (http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?action=profile;u=88)

Stock fuel pump will work and i have seen them run stockfuel lines too and it all worked.

Before you buy Died checkout some more info on it,it can well suite your needs. 8)

just a quickie, how far should this fitting go in?

(http://www.vwspeedshop.com/shop/images/T/t_963-01.jpg)

i've got it half way in, aligned in the right direction, but it will need lots and lots of strength to go in further.

This is also my concern as I´m not familiar with US tapered threads. I ended up with sealing the thread with Loctite sealer and tightening it only with small strength. I don´t want to crack my mag case  :o

Best to be careful here. Those are tapered pipe threads. If you run it in too far (i.e. use excessive force) you'll crack the case.
I personally use a teflon pipe thread sealant, and get it just where it snugs up and the hose would be @ 8:00

I don't like using Loctite on pipe thread fittings.

that's where mine is right now (@ 8:00)
but now some of the thread is still exposed, but that's ok, i guess?

so, i'll get it out, get some teflon pipe thread sealant and stick it back in? where do i get that sealant, any DIY store?

Any hardware store. Just be carefull since the slippery tape/ sealant will make you lose
some of the "feel" when tightening.

They Also make Teflon sealant in a tube it works much better then teflon tape because you dont get the stringy stuff coming loose inside and you dont get the feeling  of not being tight enough

i think you're referring to this tube:

(http://www.vwparts.net/mm5/graphics/00000001/37545.jpg)

yep thats the one

That's a conical thread, that's why it becomes harder to tighten  ;)

but it is the right fitting, right?

tip : dont paste the first 1-2 threads .

strange that you're watching a 1915 40x35.5 engle130 thread ...  ??? :o 8) ;D
 ;D

just been out to a DIY store, a wholesale parts store, and a car parts store for several things.
but none had tubed teflon sealant, one offered me a bottle of loctite 542 or i found teflon tape for pipe fittings...

harry, do you use the tape or did you find teflon tube sealant somewhere?

I don't prefer tape, as it ads to the O.D. of the fitting, making it easier to crack the port.  I prefer the liquid teflon sealant as well, or you can use the Loctite Hydraulic Thread Sealant...........made to seal threads.  LOCTITE # 54550 .............Europe may use a different part number.   ::)

mmh, i think that was the loctite 542 i had in my hands today. loctite thread sealer for hydraulics and pneumatics. 30 EUR for a way too large bottle. i just need a few drops  ;D