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nobody runs 40pII carbs anymore? not cal look?

I see them up for sale every now and then. Didn't they have problems leaking or wearing out quickly.

--louis

The 40P11's were avery common carb setup on cal look engines back then. People had problems with leaky throttle shafts, and began replacing them with the IDF'S and their bigger ventuies. The people that kept the 40P11's in service usually had learned that there was more than one style of throttle body and some could be serviced and some not. The Solex guys always had an enormous collection of throttle bodies and various parts on hand to keep there stuff running. A very cool carb setup to look at and a very mean sound to them when you put your foot in it .

hey john...they were cool to look at and they did in fact sound  nice with open throttle but never taken to the limit with the vw scene due to tuning difficulties and expensive part replacement.....i can still remember back to 1974 and racing roger grago next to don burns vw(the DGVA club sponsor) in his beautiful ghia equipped with a 1700 engine with some heads and 110 cam...we raced best two out of three and i won with my h/p single port 1600 stock carb engine in my 67 sedan..!!  i can still hear the drone of those solex 40 P11's trying to catch up...you had a set of these carbs at one time/yes??..a shame ..but i know of guys that gave them away because they couldnt get them to run right..!!

guy i knew years ago ran them on his autocross 2180cc and was always top in his class. knew his way around them i guess. knew they were popular- but seems even 356 guys opt for weber IDFs. nobody runs the good old zeniths either anymore? wasn't it the off roaders dream carb? maybe limited in its hp abilities with dinky venturies and throttle blades.

didn't sarge have solexes on his red bug once?

I THINK Arnie Molmann had 40PII´s on his car back in the day.

I have some that I plan on using on a 74*85.5mm engine...

I almost bought those same carbs lowfastbus! Im wondering now why I chickened out ??? ::)
My GTV currently runs a single Zenith on the original engine and I love it! But when it comes apart for more displacement, cam, ect. it will certainly need more carb. I would love a pair of P11's... or DCN's... or... or... ;)

I ran them back in the day on my '63.  Arnie, Jim Brooks and I were "the Solex guys."  There are two types: the early, solid throttle shaft model and the later slpit shaft model.  I always ran the split shafts, myself although lots of guys hated them.  If your careless and dump the carb body in parts dip, it will eat up the small jell-like block where you adjust the throttle plates causing severe misery...same with installing the "space ship" looking pre-venturies upside down...BIG PROBLEMS!  Seems like I ran 14's with a 1700cc motor but can't be sure.  I may have a pic for you next week if I can find it.

was your 63 the gold car with the mag wheels?

No, white with Porsche chromies.

what kind of motor was in Rick Meissner's bus, Sarge?

that was the bus with the lightning bolts on the sides?

Is syncro de mayo related to Carlos debologna

;D ;D
here's 2 engines you had  ;D

The 40P11's were also very big with the slalom guys at Bug-in's. The Zenith crowd is still alive and well. The baja and rail guys still run them.     Oh , Hi Dyno! How are you ?

I think the thing that got me started on 40P11's was how cheap they were...seemed like you could buy whole, brand-new-in-a-box carbs for $60 or $70 bucks each.  Gene Berg made nice magnesium manifods for them and had linkage and jets as well.  I was working at the Porsche dealership in Riverside at the time and carb parts were readily available for both Zenith and Solex through Porsche, so it made things pretty easy.  Solex 40P11's came with 32 mm venturies and I remember scoring a set of 36 mm chokes from Vittone to experiment with.  Berg sold the Arnolt Solex manual back then which offered a wealth of good information. 

A pic from the old days...

waouwww gene's manifold  :o :o

Yeah, a thing of beauty.  The old magnesium ones really took a nice shine.  Solid motor mounts were tough on them though...I cracked mine more then once  >:(
 

love the parabolic stacks, Sarge.

What does Parabolic mean ???

Wow I just became a senior member!!!!
Jesus can now take me ;D

Not until you become a Hero Member!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

are you related to old mcdonald?

sheep did you run a sloex 40p11 on the red baja?

WTF ???

I think it's Kenny Butler. Watch out all you guys with 1650cc and premium fuel. Unemployment and no Viagra must be pretty boring.  ;D

See you this Summer!!!!

i got a set of NOS 40PII's on Empi manifolds that will go into my white 64 bug bolted to my 69X90mm 1750cc  :D 

ok i need to find the time to bolt it in there!!! clock is ticking....

look forward to seeing that kobus 8)

sounds cool kobus!

A set of these will go into my bay next year!

Otto

Anyone know of a source for velocity stacks?? I don't need to run no stinkin' filters!! ;D

I'll be running these beauties on my new 'daily driver' motor; 76X90.5, orig. EMPI manifolds (!), stock-valve ported heads, FK41 or W120, etc.
Can't wait to get it going.

Love to have access to Sarges stash of parts and knowledge! ;)

Wish me luck!

 :o :o :o

nice

Now that is just pure PORN ;D

will those fit Type 3?  ;D

Not if its a choptop! ;D

 ;Dsmokestack lightning  :o

Maybe this summer I can get some pics.  One of our crazy buddies out here has a lot of stuff, including a SPG-crank motor with Solex's on Gene's manifolds.  Got to drive it once, it sounds MAD.  Pretty cool little motor.  And it was built back then, as far as we know.

That set up is rediculous!! Where did you find those stacks? They look like new machined items, no?
I've got two pairs of carbs now (one split shaft, one solid shaft) and I have a pair of the tall EMPI manifolds, but I'd really like to swap them for a pair of the EMPI globe versions. The stacks I'm thinking of are siamesed together, kind of like the ones on Gene's old Little But Quick dragster...

The stacks are newly produced units. I found them being made by a guy in the UK, but can't locate the purchase papers now. Google search?
I'm looking forward to getting them going. I have some experience tuning several 356s and early 912s & 911s. Never really had any problems keeping them going. In fact, their reliability is the reason I've looked into them again, that and idling those things down to 600 rpm and just listen to it purr. The progression circuitry is far superior, in my opinion, to much of what else is available to us.
I have several pairs laying around, but always preferred these single-shaft styles.
We'll see what happens. I hate to think I'd have to pull them for a pair of IDFs ...

Nice to see others trying their hands at 40P11-4's.  TT.... that's some serious intake length; you gonna get all that in the engine bay, dude?? ;)  The only problem I ever saw with Solex's was that the throttle shafts wore out easily.  We'd send the bodies off to HG Bieker Machine in Burbank for the fix... no more 1400 rpm idle.  I still think they're a cool (different) choice.

Sarge,
Like you, I can't wait to make them fit!
Should be inSANE! :o
Luckily, i still have my original dual QPs and 010 dist. to complete the look.
There's no school like OLD school.

Still have the book/parts in the pics?

This is what I'm looking for... :)

(http://www.vw-online.co.uk/acatalog/velocity_stack_L.jpg)

Bit of sticker shock though!!!  :o

http://www.vw-online.co.uk/acatalog/Karmann_Konnection_Carrera_and_Racing_Parts_7.html

No doubt. Look at where the base meets the stack... is that JB Weld?!?!

 8) ;D  Yeah, I still have that stuff... you need help with anything??

Sarge,

Prolly may need some guidance when I get it going ... Thanks for the offer.
I'll keep ya posted. But, it's not happening anytime too soon. Maybe a month or two ... work, work, work ....

Thanks again,
Tom

those stacks are for Abarth-Porsche Carrera GT   big $$$$$$$$$$!!!

Hey Texas Tom, those heads look intriguing... look like small cc chambers. How about some pics of the headwork?
I'm really curious about this motor...  right up my alley.  8)

Rattman,
Hate to disappoint, but those heads are currently hemi-cut! Their future, however, holds attemps to severly cut the chamber down via massive flycut and potentially incut the pistons to the same resulting diameter ... kind of a super-squish thing, although I have no experience with the SS thing ... it's just an experiment.
The porting is directed and minimal as to size ... not very interesting as to photographs ... however, very attentive to detail and matching.
I just hope it makes the noise and is proper!
Thanks for the interest!
Tom

I remember Jim Brooks from DKP having them on a 1700cc and always seemed to run very good.  This was late 60's early 70's. Brown car with chrome Porsche wheels with Porsche hubcaps.    Dave Rhoads

I'll have to 'dig these out', but I also have the original set of 40 DCNFs my brother bought back in the mid 70s from Claudes Buggies!
He ran them on a 78X90.5 engine with an Engle 120 and "high" compression. Back when all you needed to do so was premium leaded gas and a bottle of Moroso Octane Booster. I remember the fumes and smile.
I'm sure they're worse for the wear, but another popular 40mm carb choice 'back in the day'.

I just found this on the 356 Registry, the guy says they came from CSP but I can't find any info on their site.

(http://www.postimage.org/Pq1uPqFA-fa8eca72255ffc77b45d591713f4f23b.jpg)

Gunter??

Hey Tom I have That Sentence Copy Wrighted Have to Charge you for using it LMAO   ;D ;D

Just as long as you don't have it copyrighted!  ;D

Zack they could be furnace brazed ,The parts are heated up and material is sweated into the weld joint

Hey Monkiboy, you tired of your Webers yet??! How about some 40P11's with cast aluminium fresh air boxes... or maybe blow through turbo! :D

Na not yet but give me a week or so and I'll post some updates  ;)

Anyway those are just PARTS PORN!!!!!! Seriously cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D

Really cool to see some sideways yet backwards thinking, IDAs etc are cool but man are they common now :)