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Title: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 05, 2006, 21:27:19 pm
Has anyone ever put Crestines on a type 2? Here is the victim- it is my friends '61 Single cab. It will be recieving its new motor soon (a mild 1600 with lots of Treuhaft parts), a straight axle conversion in the rear, type 3 drums, and dropped spindles with a narrowed adjustible beam. The Crestlines measure about 6 1/4" wide with only 3 1/4" backspace. We wont be going crazy low with it, and it wont be raced, just a daily driver.
We arent worried too much about the front since we can narrow the beam to fit the wheels.
With only 3 1/4" backspace it makes it difficult for the rear. Can the back of the wheel be machined down to increase backspace without sacrificing strength? It has 1/2" thick pads on the back of the wheels, as you can see on the second picture. If we took those pads off, we would get 3 3/4"- much better!
What size tires to use? Currently it has 195/65s on the back and 165s front. Im thinking of re using the rear tires and going to a shorter, wider front tire like a 185/55 or 185/60. I dont really want to go narrower on the front since it is a pretty wide wheel, and I would like the front tires to be a little narrower and shorter then the rear tires.
Any help in this matter?? We are trying to get it ready to drive to the Las Vegas Bug-In in less then 4 weeks!


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Turtle001 on September 05, 2006, 22:14:06 pm
nice decklid you got there ;-)


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Trond Dahl on September 06, 2006, 00:11:28 am
hehe I like the windows, make's It look like you work on your car inside your living room. I like it!


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 06, 2006, 00:26:46 am
nice decklid you got there ;-)

We've got the rest of the car, too :)


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: speedwell on September 06, 2006, 03:15:21 am
 i 've a set of 5 crestlines and all are mark II the same on the photo but i've 3 different models  ???  ,i will post some picture tomorrow because i'm at work now  ::) and don't i have my wheels with me  ;D see you tomorrow for more details of my wheels


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: speedwell on September 06, 2006, 17:51:38 pm
here's my wheels  three differents models
-The first one with a lip on the edge of the wheel , but the center is identical to the second
-The second is different from the third at the level of the nuts and bolts and has no lips on the edge
-And the third is different at the level of the flask, or we put bolts, it looks like there's an insert and when we move that,  it's conical as a stock wheel


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: speedwell on September 06, 2006, 17:59:01 pm
someone have an idea  ??? how many models crestline made on the MKII (my wheels are MK II )  and somebody has already seen one mk1  ???
regards
fabian


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 06, 2006, 19:02:06 pm
Interesting! My friends wheels are like the #2 one you have.
Does anyone have a spare centercap lying around? We are missing one!
Any help on getting the wheels to fit?


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: BABOON on September 06, 2006, 21:51:27 pm
Shave of the rear wheel arch and go for som BIG tires. :o :o I love when the wheels are sticking out.


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Rocket-Racing on September 06, 2006, 22:03:11 pm
Shave of the rear wheel arch and go for som BIG tires. :o :o I love when the wheels are sticking out.

Oh yeah.. That's the way to do it! Radiused wheelwells and the Crestlines sticking out with some fat Goodyears!
I have a feeling this isn't exactly the answers you wanted, but how cool?  ;D


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 07, 2006, 07:14:55 am
If the fenders had already been cut, we wouldnt have a problem with that! I even suggested it to my friend! But since it is so straight, rust free, and never been cut, I could never bring myself to do it.


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: BABOON on September 07, 2006, 14:01:39 pm
Shouldn`t be a problem. Lots of type 2`s around. Go for it ;D ;D


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 08, 2006, 17:23:16 pm
Any help out there?? How about tire sizes? Anyone have a bus with dropped spindles? What size tires are you running up front?


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: speedwell on September 08, 2006, 18:19:51 pm
hy zach  one day i found this picture of abus with rockets racing wheels


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 08, 2006, 18:36:42 pm
I think we are just going to take a shot in the dark and try the 185/60's. I like having a little taller tire to improve ride quality, and its the same height as a 145 :). The straight axle trans is ready, and the rest of the suspension bits are in the mail. Ill let you know how it goes- or if it doesnt!


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Rocket-Racing on September 08, 2006, 19:05:03 pm
I think we are just going to take a shot in the dark and try the 185/60's. I like having a little taller tire to improve ride quality, and its the same height as a 145 :). The straight axle trans is ready, and the rest of the suspension bits are in the mail. Ill let you know how it goes- or if it doesnt!

I am very interested in how it fits as I have a similar problem myself.
My case is a 66 bus and a set of ET mags. The wheels have just about the same offset as yours, but the car will not be lowered.
Haven't tested or measured anything yet as the bus isn't here right now.
Good luck, and keep us posted!


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 24, 2006, 19:06:30 pm
Well, the Cab isnt going to make Vegas :( We bolted the rear end up with the straight axle conversion (uses long axles), with the type 3 brakes, and the bare Crestlines (no tire!) was about .100" away from the fender lip! We might have been able to get away with it if we machined the back of the rim AND used little type 1 brakes, but we knew that wasnt the right way. So now we have decided to use short axles with custom built spring plates that dogleg in 1 1/8". Hopefully that will give us plenty of room! Maybe enough for 205/70's or 215/65's! We have the short axles installed in the new trans, just waiting on gaskets for the axle tubes  ::) The motor is almost complete too- looking very pretty! We also still need to take 2 more inches out of the CB beam. The 185/60s fit like a glove on those rims though  ;D Ill post pics later...


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Felix/DFL on September 26, 2006, 15:14:17 pm
Hi Zach,

here you go:

http://www.amayesing.com/narrowrear.htm

Another method is to work with spacers between the (non notched) springplate and axletubes.Maybe you even have to shorten the axletubes...

Good luck,Felix


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 26, 2006, 15:43:23 pm
Thank you! We already found that site, and are planning the exact same thing. Ours will be narrower by 1 1/8", instead of just 3/4" though :) The custom springplates should be done by Thursday...


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on September 29, 2006, 21:17:22 pm
Here was our problem, thats a bit too close for comfort ;)
And the motor- looking too pretty for a 1600!!
Off to Vegas! See you Monday!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on October 10, 2006, 20:24:25 pm
Here was the solution we came up with- short axles and these currently unfinished springplates. They are .060" thicker than stock, and about 5 Rockwell harder- strength wont be an issue. With a wide 5 type 3 drum and the Crestlines in un-modified form, the tire sits right in the middle of the fender well. We are hoping to stuff a 215/65 back there  ;D


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Diederick/DVK on December 09, 2006, 18:20:32 pm
this is the topic, can't wait to see the final result!

how is it going?


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on January 02, 2007, 04:41:35 am
This detail thing is addictive. Once you start, you cant stop...


Title: Re: Crestlines + Single Cab
Post by: Zach Gomulka on January 02, 2007, 18:04:58 pm
Finished spring plate