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Title: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Jim Ratto on February 01, 2008, 05:02:09 am When I was in high school it was the cat's meow to run 8-spokes even on an early car. I've always liked them. One of the first fast VW's I can recall was a yellow late model running 1776 and 8-spokes.
Why do you think they've faded from the limelight? Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: danny gabbard on February 01, 2008, 05:06:59 am yes you were the shit with 8 spoke's back then, simiple time's and good
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: John Rayburn on February 01, 2008, 05:24:08 am I only liked them if they were oem EMPI spyders. I think they went out of favor because of proliferation. It's all you saw, much like what goes on with the Flat 4 BRM's nowadays.
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Frenchy Dehoux on February 01, 2008, 05:44:21 am I have 5 original EMPI 8 spokes in the box with spacers and caps maybe someday I will have to build a car to put them on LOL. Frenchy Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: danny gabbard on February 01, 2008, 05:50:15 am Na.... Just sell them to me
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: nicolas on February 01, 2008, 07:29:49 am i'll admit, i'm an 8 spoke hater... but i have a reason. out of the 20+ type 3s i've owned, more than 1/2 have had 8 spokes on them when purchased. i'm just sick of seeing them. i have a set on the 412 though ::) that is one off the only wheels that fit under a type3. if there is one flaw on a type 3 it is the engeniers that designed the car never thought about putting bigger rims under that car... i have grown to like them Jim: the car you are talking about is that the yellow car that is right behind Don Bedfords car in the picture of VWTrends? i think it had a 1776 engine, also a cool car. the red one may be nice as well but you can't see it good enough. the best part is the guy with the hairy upperlip. Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Jason Foster on February 01, 2008, 07:58:48 am I was just thinking about this the other day. When I was a kid my dad had a primered '63 on gold 8 spokes. That one never made it to paint thanks to a lady making a left in front of him one day. I think they are cool still especially if they are gold. Maybe they will make a comeback. I think Frenchy should build that car he's talking about. Jason
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Bewitched666 on February 01, 2008, 08:22:14 am I agree with John Rayburn,i had them too in the 80's but went to centerlines as everybody was puting them on their cars like the BRM's ;D
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Neil Davies on February 01, 2008, 10:23:15 am I think they are making a bit of a comeback - there have been a few sets of original ones changing hands recently, and I'm sure Joe G said he'd got some Lillegards too. ;) I like 'em!
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: outlaw on February 01, 2008, 12:02:13 pm Agreed, I think they will make a comeback in a small way.
They were just overdone in the 80s and I too became a hater, but times change and they have become a rarely seen wheel !!! Great looking wheel at the end of the day and I for one would like to see some "top" cars wear them again. Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Torgeir Schibevaag on February 01, 2008, 12:43:03 pm Baboon built this car last year.....
To me it looks just right with the spyders :o :o :o Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: javabug on February 01, 2008, 14:31:42 pm ...theSamba.com told me they aren't cool...
I do think the originals end up looking better. Plus, I don't think I've seen a repop set with 145 tires on the front for a loooong time. For some reason, I always see them with stupid 50-series. Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: louisb on February 01, 2008, 14:35:34 pm I really like them on Ghias. Late model Bugs too.
--louis Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Jon on February 01, 2008, 14:49:33 pm My gues is that the reason its no longer popular is that most people have the wide Five pattern on their "older" bugs. And to most a four bolt wheel on a older car just doesn't look right.
But for newer bugs there is no more classic looking wheel, but thats just my two Kroner. Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: lofty1971 on February 01, 2008, 15:36:28 pm i'll admit, i'm an 8 spoke hater... but i have a reason. out of the 20+ type 3s i've owned, more than 1/2 have had 8 spokes on them when purchased. i'm just sick of seeing them. i have a set on the 412 though ::) that is one off the only wheels that fit under a type3. if there is one flaw on a type 3 it is the engeniers that designed the car never thought about putting bigger rims under that car... i have grown to like them Jim: the car you are talking about is that the yellow car that is right behind Don Bedfords car in the picture of VWTrends? i think it had a 1776 engine, also a cool car. the red one may be nice as well but you can't see it good enough. the best part is the guy with the hairy upperlip. Porsche 914 2.0 litre alloy bolts straight on a later type 3, the offset tucks them in real nice as well. They certainly looked cool on my 67 squareback. ;) Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: louisb on February 01, 2008, 15:39:31 pm i'll admit, i'm an 8 spoke hater... but i have a reason. out of the 20+ type 3s i've owned, more than 1/2 have had 8 spokes on them when purchased. i'm just sick of seeing them. i have a set on the 412 though ::) that is one off the only wheels that fit under a type3. if there is one flaw on a type 3 it is the engeniers that designed the car never thought about putting bigger rims under that car... i have grown to like them Jim: the car you are talking about is that the yellow car that is right behind Don Bedfords car in the picture of VWTrends? i think it had a 1776 engine, also a cool car. the red one may be nice as well but you can't see it good enough. the best part is the guy with the hairy upperlip. Porsche 914 2.0 litre alloy bolts straight on a later type 3, the offset tucks them in real nice as well. They certainly looked cool on my 67 squareback. ;) I prefer the baby gasburners on a type 3. --louis Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: nicolas on February 01, 2008, 15:41:31 pm they would on my 67 squareback as well... ;D but i opted for another seldom seen classic these days the riviera! mine is a vw blue TL, what is yours?
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Diederick/DVK on February 01, 2008, 17:00:57 pm i'd still go for a nice spyder mag set if i come across a set that is not cracked.
i reckon they'd look the bollocks on my 67 ;D Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: speedwell on February 01, 2008, 17:23:07 pm jim remember that thread ;D http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,2447.0.html (http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,2447.0.html) lot of 8 sokes here ;)
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Jim Ratto on February 01, 2008, 17:26:18 pm Baboon built this car last year..... To me it looks just right with the spyders :o :o :o There was a young guy in our short-lived Bay Area Club DRG up near Oakland, CA, named Mike (Spike) that had a 1970 Bug that looked identical to that car. Very cool car, not sure where he got it....even had plaid herculon seat inserts. While the club was active he ran a little motor, but eventually went to Weber'd 1904. Then he got a taste of Datsun 510's and gave up on VW's, like most of that club :( Only guys still into them are Bates, Derek (kafercup), TW and myself. :-\ Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Diederick/DVK on February 01, 2008, 17:26:40 pm why do repop 8 spokes suck so badly?
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Jim Ratto on February 01, 2008, 17:29:37 pm i'll admit, i'm an 8 spoke hater... but i have a reason. out of the 20+ type 3s i've owned, more than 1/2 have had 8 spokes on them when purchased. i'm just sick of seeing them. i have a set on the 412 though ::) that is one off the only wheels that fit under a type3. if there is one flaw on a type 3 it is the engeniers that designed the car never thought about putting bigger rims under that car... i have grown to like them Jim: the car you are talking about is that the yellow car that is right behind Don Bedfords car in the picture of VWTrends? i think it had a 1776 engine, also a cool car. the red one may be nice as well but you can't see it good enough. the best part is the guy with the hairy upperlip. No, it was a guy I went to high school with up in North Calif. I didn't even have a car or license yet, I was driving my Schwinn Sting to school. He was a year older than me and sat across from me in drafting and all he ever talked about was his Bug and burnouts and Dellortos and heads and "cases"....WTF is a case, I thought. I knew "blocks" Anyway, I was perched on my Schwinn in a Safeway parking lot after school and he pulled in and saw me, and I jokingly gave him the tumbs down, and he proceded to waste his rear tires in a big smokey show. I was floored. Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: speedwell on February 01, 2008, 17:47:45 pm at my begining in vw idon't like the 8 spoke too much with all color , pink blue , yellow etc... , but when i bought my first set of real 8 empi i changed my point of vue on this one , the spyders are really cool 8) but i love the original not the copy ::) sorry guys for those who own copy
now i own 8 8 spokes 6 in 15" & 2 in 14" ;) Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Carlos De Alba on February 01, 2008, 18:18:50 pm :o :o :o very nice speedwell........
I had a gold set that I now regret selling........... :'( Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: danny gabbard on February 01, 2008, 18:28:11 pm Just my oppinion, But if the center cap does'nt screw in, it's not a 8 spoke. Yes the rest got over produced
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: speedwell on February 01, 2008, 19:04:22 pm :o :o :o very nice speedwell........ thx carlos and very sad to sell those oneI had a gold set that I now regret selling........... :'( Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Jon on February 01, 2008, 19:27:17 pm why do repop 8 spokes suck so badly? To me the original spokes like tiger claws, and the copy spokes look like fat sausages. Apart form the screw on centers. Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Rick Meredith on February 01, 2008, 19:43:43 pm I know at least one car that's being built (slowly) with 8 spokes 8)
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Jim Ratto on February 01, 2008, 19:47:09 pm I know at least one car that's being built (slowly) with 8 spokes 8) me too ;D they went to a good owner Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Jim Ratto on February 01, 2008, 19:50:00 pm My first girlfriend drove a bright orange '71 std Bug with 88 x 69 stock carbed motor. It was a fun car. Somewhat fun girl. She thought my feet stunk though, and was way into church....so things didn't work for long. It had black repop 8 spokes, and dual QPs very cool car. I always wanted to put a 2 liter in that car and see her stand it up on the muffler.
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Rick Meredith on February 01, 2008, 19:51:47 pm I know at least one car that's being built (slowly) with 8 spokes 8) me too ;D they went to a good owner Check's in the mail! ;D ;D Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: danny gabbard on February 01, 2008, 19:53:16 pm somebody say orange
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Rick Meredith on February 01, 2008, 19:58:24 pm why do repop 8 spokes suck so badly? To me the original spokes like tiger claws, and the copy spokes look like fat sausages. Apart form the screw on centers. Part of the deal is that several companies repopped 8 spokes with differing levels of trueness to the original design. I have a set of the first copies, Lillegards, which is supposed to be the truest to the original design. One of these days I'm gonna get out my calipers and and compare them to my Empis. Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: louisb on February 01, 2008, 20:01:31 pm why do repop 8 spokes suck so badly? To me the original spokes like tiger claws, and the copy spokes look like fat sausages. Apart form the screw on centers. Part of the deal is that several companies repopped 8 spokes with differing levels of trueness to the original design. I have a set of the first copies, Lillegards, which is supposed to be the truest to the original design. One of these days I'm gonna get out my calipers and and compare them to my Empis. I seem to remember that Frenchy was involved in making the first repo versions. Not sure where I heard that though. --louis Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: sheep on February 01, 2008, 20:24:31 pm JIm, are you converting to 4 lug
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Jim Ratto on February 01, 2008, 20:25:57 pm JIm, are you converting to 4 lug you mean add two to the two I have already? Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: speedwell on February 01, 2008, 20:27:09 pm why do repop 8 spokes suck so badly? To me the original spokes like tiger claws, and the copy spokes look like fat sausages. Apart form the screw on centers. Part of the deal is that several companies repopped 8 spokes with differing levels of trueness to the original design. I have a set of the first copies, Lillegards, which is supposed to be the truest to the original design. One of these days I'm gonna get out my calipers and and compare them to my Empis. I seem to remember that Frenchy was involved in making the first repo versions. Not sure where I heard that though. --louis ;) fabs Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: qubek on February 02, 2008, 21:08:28 pm why do repop 8 spokes suck so badly? Snobbery mostly ;)It's a little bit funny. People saying that they didn't like those wheels because they were too popular, so the wheels became unpopular because of their previous popularity, but now, when they are unpopular, people start to like them again? So we may expect an increase of popularity of 8 spokes and then people will start to despise them again.... It's so hard to keep up with fashion ;D Similar thing with people switching from BRMs to chromies*. I know that you can get bored with a given look after few years, but the lounge is to much like a fashion club lately IMO. * to be honest - I tried that last weeks myself ;D but discovered that my car looks awful on chromies, even if I like the wheel itself. Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Zach Gomulka on February 02, 2008, 21:40:52 pm Repops suck because of the cheap ass plastic center cap! If they had a decent looking metal cap, it would make them worlds better...
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: qubek on February 02, 2008, 22:07:39 pm i think it is oversaturation... Yes it is, I know. if everyone has them, then the individuality is gone. On the other hand, trying to have what other people don't have, is not individuality. It's as far from individuality as trying to have what other people have. Individuality is trying to have what you like. IMHOQuote from: Zach Gomulka Repops suck because of the cheap ass plastic center cap! If they had a decent looking metal cap, it would make them worlds better... I agree. Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: Grelland on February 03, 2008, 00:16:54 am Here's another car that is SLOWLY being finished on real EMPI 8's :-\
When I startet the project I had fuchs on it, but then I realized that "all" cal-look Ghias at least here in Norway ran fuchs, so after asking for some inspiration here at the Lounge, you guys persuaded me into these wheels. They will go on an early, originally 5-bolt car, but I guess since converting to 5x130 is an accepted upgrade, so is 4x130, and I end up with the same brake upgrade. I cant wait to finalise the car AND the wheels (I actually have 5 of them now) Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: nicolas on February 03, 2008, 09:40:24 am hey can someone help me out with the right paintcode for the gold wheels? i can't locate the right colour. maybe a Ral-number or paintcode could help.
Title: Re: You don't see many cars being built w/ 8-spokes anymore Post by: speedwell on February 03, 2008, 19:14:44 pm love your car nico ;)
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