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Please Post Pics from racing engines  8)

No many here is admitting that they have a racing engine. All of them are street engines, but you can drive them on races too. ;)

maybe if you asked for "Cal Look engines" you might get a few  ;)

Race engine? What`s that?

Hey N20 has a race engine...  and I think he will admit it to...   ;D

Okay then post pics from street engines please  :)

Here is a picture of my street engine in the first trial assebly stage. I can race it if I want to, it isn't for street use only.  ;D

The engine from Klaus Fürlauf/Germany   Typ 4 2922 cc

(http://www.vw1303.at/VW1303S_1.jpg)

(http://www.vw1303.at/VW1303S_2.jpg)

My Other Cars Racing Engine...

Frank

Hmmm, just kidding, here it is...

Frank

Typ 4 Remmele heads 2666cc Trijekt engine management

(http://www.vw1303.at/bilder/projekt_06/VW1303S_25.jpg)

I started her up for the first time three days ago, 5 months late or 7 months early.
 ???
/Håkan L

Oh my god that looks SICK!

Oh, have upgraded your rear brakes! Anything else?  ;)

What kind of KPB (Kilometers Per Beer) do you get with that set-up?  ;D

Hmmm... ;D ;D ;D can't remember... ;D ;D ;D

Frank

Sounds like you're running rich on your air-to-beer ratio!  ;D

Sounds like you're running rich on your air-to-beer ratio!  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Frank

dude...that IS amazing, i'd love to hear that sucker!

Håkan...where's the blue color splashes.. ;)

Roman, the things remaining from the old motor is the block, crank and rods. The rest is new.

The blue colour is there, but hopefully not in -07.

/Håkan

 :o

Håkan lets get that thing down Kjula in June ! Belive you have a fair chans of getting away with some nice prices !

The new new brakes shows that you got older ! Remember when you where braking from 238km/h or so, drumbrakes all around, and NO chute ! !  ::)

                          INSANE

A race engine  ;D
(http://foto.vg.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=55617949&dx=580&dy=406)

908?

This is the 16 cylinder 7500ccm 917-engine that Porsche buildt to use in the can-am series...but it was never needed since they turbocharged the boxer 12 instead:-)
A beutiful piece of engenering.

DOH! That what I get for looking at the forum early in the morning and before coffee.. I didn't count stacks.

(http://foto.vg.no/show_image_stream.php?bid=55617949&dx=580&dy=406)

Proper! Works with or without fan too!  :)  

I'm not sure but if I remember correctly there's some question as to what the purpose of the 16 actually was, I think depending who you ask there's a view that they built it as they knew Ferrari would get to hear about it and for no other reason. They figured that having trounced them with the 12 the possibility of a 16 would cause much arm waving especially since Ferrari people had previously said the 12 would never work. ;D

Nope, huge fan on top of the thing  ;)

Kalle

At one of the races, the fan flew off one of the 12's, car kept running fine. I guess airflow at 200 or so renders the fan surplus to requirements? Can't remember which race but I would guess somewhere like Daytona where the speed is high throughout the lap.

Didn't Ferrari use a flat 12 in their 512 le mans car?

I am not sure what race that happened in...but i seem to remember reading about it.
You are mostly right about the reason why they developed the boxer-16.
It was mostly to scare the competitors, but they were already scared of the boxer-12 :-)
And when they introduced the 917/30 nobody stood a chance and FIA banned it alltogether after a while...check it out:

Engine :Flat 12 turbocharged (max boost 1.5 bar)
Capacity : 5,374cc
Bore / Stroke : 90mm / 70.4mm
Compression ratio :6.5:1
1,100bhp @ 8,000rpm
1,098 Nm @ 6,400rpm
Cross drilled and ventilated discs with drilled aluminium hubs.Porsche aluminium four-piston calipers
Front - 12" x 15" Rear - 19" x 15" cast magnesium alloy wheels with centre nut and air-extractor cones (hub-caps !)
Goodyear
Length - 4,562mm
Width - 2,085mm
Height - 730mm
Unladen weight :
845kg (33/67 front/rear split)
Fuel tank capacity : 400 Litres
Fuel Consumption :85 Litres/100Km (or 3.4 miles per gallon)
Maximum speed : 238mph
Acceleration : 0-60 mph : 2.1 seconds 0-100mph : 3.9 secs 0-200mph : 13.4sec

With black paint you will be making trouble in the very top of the international VW lists...
Can't wait, good luck Håkan!!

my engine 2165 cc ( pics 2002) in my ex-tickled pink

(http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6154/bitburg9nm2.jpg)

thanks liou

Typ 4 2366cc Trijekt engine management 212 HP

(http://www.vw1303.at/VW1303S_4.jpg)

 mmmmm Whats this!? type 4's seem to be taking over  ;)

Not Really A RACE Engine But It Did Run 11:70 The small motor on the stand is an 82x88 all Empi Motor it has a set 3 bolt 40 DCN Empi Carb Set up,Motor in the Back Ground Is a Berg 78x90.5  k8 cam and 48 IDA's The One In The Back Gound thats Complete is an 82x90.5 with 5.6 Rods FK89 Steve Tims Heads and a set of 48 IDA's I Had This Motor In My 67 Sedan Full Interior it Ran 11:70 Threw the Muffler with Slicks at OCIR

Roman what spec is that? The manifolds look huge! :)

CB aluminum case
CB 044 wedgeport with 46x37 Manley stock length valves, ported by JPM, stock diameter dual JPM springs, CB Titanium retainers
Gene Berg 52 mm carbs with 44mm venturis
Scat 86 mm flanged crank with type4 journals
Carrillo 5.7" rods
JE 94 mm super light pistons designed by JPM
Mahle cylinders
Engle FK-89 cam
Schubeck composite lifters
Pauter 1.5 rockers
12.3 compression with 1mm deck height.
Custom made A1 1 7/8" exhaust with 2 1/4" collektor och 3" stainless muffler.


One of the most common mistakes people do is porting the manifolds to little, they just match port the first 20 mm or so. To port them enough you need to weld a lot.
Engine made 228 hp with a huge 287 NM torque.
The engine minus heads is for sale, I am stepping up to a 4" bore engine.

Nice spec! ;)

VW Typ 4 2666cc Trijekt engine management

(http://www.vw1303.at/vw_kaefer_1.jpg)

My T-5 2919cc.
It's not a race engine it's a streetrace engine ;D

Those head studs look a bit too long.  ;) Smack it together Max,so we can hear it thump this spiring!
I got the first parts for my 2831 today and it looks like the Autocrafts has a bit bigger top cooling fins but smaller fins in the middle of the cylinders.

Who, here in scandinavia, convert WBX cases... I know many that can do it, but most of them would be dooing it for the first time.
Any adwise Max? The rest would be 4" and JPM heads... and a wbx demello stroker crank.

(http://www.geocities.com/sgtsearoy/engine.jpg)

you can use a type 1 crank,just need to mess around with the bearings,or just cut it for type 4 bearing all the way through,the area on a wbx crank that the flywheel bolts on is a little bit weak in my opinion,but the rest sounds really good :)  cheers richie,uk

Holy crap! :o
Do you have some specs please?

Cheers,
Sander

So here the 2332cc bolted in  Ingrid'green oval and the 2007cc engine  I'm building for the 64 notch we own

It's a old pic ;)

I have a good friend that makes it happen for me.(Fredde in Västerås) There's a lot of work in the convert, but it's a realy a nice case.  ;)

2.1 L case
T-1 90mm crank
Eagle 5.88" rods
101.6mm AA cylinders
101.6mm JE
TSC 30 cam
Pauter 1.3/1
Autocraft 910 heads (ex Paradise express) ::)

It needs a Turbo and EFI....

JR59, I'm just curious.... if you're gonna run 48s on a notch, you're gonna have to cut the trunk area out right? If so, why not convert to an upright cooling system?

Hi rick,well I already own a T3 back in the 90's als with 48 IDA and the original pancake cooling system(on a 1776cc...)so...first of all,I love the look of the engine (all is a flatline the only thing you see when you open the trunk are the IDA... ;D)so it's a challenge.As it's not the fist hot T3 engine we make,all I can say is that if you stay with a CR around 9:1 and have all the cooling tin the engine will run as cool as the original!!.secondly,the IDA+manifold will not be the carburator used for long trip,I plan on 44/45 or 48 IDF or DRLA,the IDA will be screw "sometimes " to have big fun or race here in France.I'm porting a set of T3 low manifold but it's take time so for the beguining I will run the former carb!! ::)
Here is some photo of the manifold followed by 2 shot of one of our friend'fastback engine

Interesting. It certainly looks cool with the lid in place and the 48s sticking through. Sounds like you have the cooling figured out. Any issues with the fan holding together at high rpms?

Hi rick,well we never had bad issue with a fan  on a T3,I saw on samba a welded T3 fan but at this time I just balanced them.The critical point is the screw and washer you bolt in the crank (dont forget loctite or you will loose the rate! ;D).
I give you the engine spec: 78.4 (DMS),GB191S rods;Web109+1.25 ; 9.13:1 CR;CBperf 28mm light weight lifters,90.5AA P&C;GB210A sump, 040 (welded 42*37.5+12mm plugs p&p by shawn mac carty);1 3/4 merged "sidewinder"exhaust system(special order for the T3 engine).Hop it will be fun to drive ;D ;D

Sounds like a lot of fun! Keep us posted on your progress!

I have a 2.1 DJ wasserboxer case lying around as well, should be a nice project some day!  ;)

But if anyone who lives nearby is interested let me know!

P.s. JHU, try Morten on http://vwnettet.dk/, get the case machined is the largest issue indeed...

Thanks 67!

Typ 4 2,7 L engine plus heads Trijekt engine management

(http://www.vw1303.at/Strohmayer_1.jpg)

(http://www.vw1303.at/engine_plus_2.jpg)

Jesus, that's not an engine that is a beast!

It reminds me of the famous qoute from Crocodile Dundee:
Sue: Mick, give him your wallet.
Mick: What for?
Sue: He's got a knife.
Mick (brandishing his own weapon): That's not a knife. This is a knife.

BTW rumours say a N/A Pauter engine is on it's way to Sweden to be installed in a Cal-Looker!

Alternatively, Pulp Fiction and Jules Winnfield musing on the merits of the AK47;

The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to .... every ............ in the room, accept no substitutes.

(http://pauter.com/Super%20Pro_files/shroud.jpg)

So here is at this time my T3 engine,bolted to the car,
I need to wire it,

More pics from the Pauter engine please !!!!

Big Block vw engine

racing engine

more racing engines

street and strip engine

:o :o :o :o :o :oWHAT SIZE IS THIS THEN? :o :o :o :o

What's are the specs about this baby?

i just love the look and sound of this 1679cc engine

waouwww der rennlaufer engine  ;D  ;D  ;D

106 x 94 = 3316 cc

Now thats what I call a STREET engine  ;) :)

How much does a block like that cost  ??? ??? ???

How much does a block like that cost  ??? ??? ???

do you ask a lady how old she is ??  ;D

good point dude ;) and if I think about it -  How could you ever put a price on something soooooooo beautifal  ;)  :)

this engine picture is from a couple of years ago.

Think you'll look at around $2800-block only(Pauter)

A shot of Mike Smith's engine in his white '67 race car.  From 1984 at the now closed Carlsbad Raceway.

A pic of the engine from "Hot Mustard" owned by Ron Lesnick (sp?) from one of the last Bug-In's at the famed OCIR in 1983.

Street and strip engine.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/67SCREAMER/PC040044.jpg)

 ;)

Do you know anything about the guys behind that engine?

Nice!  8)

Mike Smith was a frequent racer in the 80's and early 90's.  He had a couple of cars featured in Hot VW's magazine as well.  He ran various combos depending upon the class he raced in.  The engine pictured probably was a 74x88 slipper skirt engine or possibly a 72 stroke engine that I heard he ran.  That car, by the way, won "Best Engineered" race car at a NHRA Winternationals drag racing event.  They picked his VW over all the V8 cars, funny cars, dragsters, etc...

The car is now missing an engine and is collecting dust in a warehouse in Japan in the company of a bunch of other old racers..

Hi,
here it's Black Mamba engine, street and strip by Sly Motors....

(http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8498/dsc03505smallbx1.jpg)



http://sly1.skynetblogs.be

Nico Black Mamba driver

Thanks for the info.  :)

heres my street motor 1835cc 87mx69m 2ooHP 48idas

Um, dude, a 69x87 is a 1641cc engine, not an 1835.  Check your math.

Secondly, if that's a pic of your engine, those are most certainly NOT 48 IDA's.

Third, trust me when I say this, you're not making 200hp with that engine.

Wicked thread , wonderful porn for work  ;D

Typ 1   2 OHC  1997cc  Trijekt enginemanagement

(http://www.aichlseder.info/bilder/technik/1.jpg)

My little motor, Now all finished and ready to go in the car....

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/autocraft/15052007480.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/autocraft/15052007481.jpg)

this is it moked up in the car

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/autocraft/27062006230.jpg)


man this stuff takes ages to get together!

GASP!

what the f....  :o martin what displacement have you???

2853cc, its the same as Pardise's motor they have in the dragster, sonny Bryant crank, ali rods, cp pistons, one off paradise cam, billet heads.

i like it, it just take so much time to make it all fit together!

But where is the cooling?...... oh, I forgot,  this is the racing engine thread  :)

This looks insane Martin, have you set a date for your first race wit this monster?

its intended for the street but only limited. if you look, the heads are water cooled and im going to reliy on the air under the car to cool the cylinders.

Its not going to be a motorway car thats for sure!

Aha... sorry for not seeing that small detail. Looking closer I noticethe water jackets - must have been the chock after seeing such a sexy thing on here. Please keep us all updatet, this looks very impressive!

Best rgs
BB

ya big show off  ;D dont be putin that HP MONSTER in the short littel thing or there will be nothing left of it at the end of the track. defenetly a long wheel base engine. looks real mean martin great job . UD. ;)

With you, Bernie and Trav, looks like it will be the year of 'small' engines ;)

Heres a Nice One With Lots Of Welding On the Manifolds Kind of Nice Having two  Motors the same one in the car and one behind the car Notice the Non Finned Barrels  Or How About A Blower??

There is already a few hair dryers in this thread so one more can't hurt to much :-)

Some of Bernies new motor

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/benssp/DSCF4457.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/benssp/DSCF4456.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/benssp/DSCF4453.jpg)

 :D :D :D, :D :D :D, :D :D :D, :D :D :D, :D :D :D hair dryers  :D :D :D

oh yeah.. by the way.. It's my new engine and It's a 2276 :)

What the heck - have you turned to the dark side?

Depends on which side you define as the dark.
Either way I hope the force is strong in me :-D

Had the tape meashure out, it wont fit in woper. he he he

You over for Bug in?

Good idea! Look forward to seing it run some time. :)

How about this food processor...

(http://www.rundnaund.ch/ricardo/bilder/turboFunny1.jpg)

Interesting exhaust design...

Shawn Geers new DRKC cup engine  ;D

(http://www.65devon.co.uk/cpg148/albums/userpics/10001/DSCF3206.JPG)

Very trick! Its runs a vacuum pump and crank triggered MSD ingnition (originally designed for a V8 engine which Shawn has modified!) Oh it also runs on 62mm Terminator II carbs!!

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p82/rocketron_photos/357915.jpg)


 8)

 :o :o :o :o :o...wtf a  carrera engine in a bug never seen that before  :o nice one  ;)

this bug 64 blue is the young driver is hardin and this engine is owner shawn geers sponsor DRKC but Not driver shawn ;)

Yeah Jesse Hardin drove it but Shawn Geers owns it! It ran a 10.83@124mph first pass! I got to see it at the classic week this year and its awesome!!

Just took this still have not fire it up yet do that tomorrow roll on Bug In.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/gold65turbo/motor1-1.jpg)

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Now THATS A RACING ENGINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And by the look of it it`s being used as well!! WAY COOL!

engine is in now und still running.

we try the first rollout in wittstock at the 13.-15. July

Looking good martin. Will it be ready???? :P

Well done Martin, i hope it works out for you. Will pop round wednesday

Lee

Yes

Dont know about Glenn's car as im at work now trying to sorting it out.

Oxy 2919cc

Too bad you couldn't go BIG!  ;D

Here is mine....
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http://typ3theproject.blogspot.com/

Hi

See Pic´s of my Race engine and race car on www.thenastygray.blogspot.com

Best Regards
Thomas

Typ 1   2 OHC  1997cc  Trijekt enginemanagement

(http://www.aichlseder.info/TRIJEKT_1.jpg)

More Pics 2 OHC

PICS (http://www.aichlseder.info/bilder/2_ohc/3.htm)

Seattle. $100,000 engine in a $2,500 car. The guy has B brakes and 356 wheels all the way round too. By looking at the underside of the decklid, he drives the piss out of it too.

 :o wtf carrera engine  :o :o :o

now thats what I call PORN ;D ;D ;D

This car has been around a long time. I remember seeing a pic in Hot VWS about 15 years ago.
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/357914.jpg)

No, no more pics. If or when I steal a 356 Carrera I'm doing the same thing. Part that sucker out and put all that I can on my bug.  ::) J/K  ;D

My beetle in 1985. 2530 cc watercooled TIV heads and  a Wade SC
My dragster 1978-1980. 1985 cc
Some large cc TIV versions
My current beetle, with a JPM 1915 cc T1. To be converted to TIV 2732 cc this summer.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/ldstabildenpmonstret.jpg)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/DSCN0112.jpg)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/avgasver.jpg)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/2tumsavgas-1.jpg)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/JPM1915.jpg)

Just thought of another of my engines that I built when i lived in Italy.
TIV, Scat split ports, Autorotor SC and DTA FI. 1997-1998

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/vw001.jpg)

Sitting home alone with a sick stomach and just some books, video and the PC,  this thread got me running some wild memories.
I am looking for a engine picture of St Moritz Fashion or Häcken Hugo as it was called during the period when I owned it, at Bug Run 1 in 1983.
It had my T1 OHC 911 dragster engine in it.
Anyone? I guess it would only be Swedes, Norwegians and Danish at that time. Would love to have a glimpse at what it looked like. I have going to the track and I have on the track but  no single detail picture.

That was a few years before this picture below were Mats Herrlander borrowed the car and finally same year drove it in Germany, winning the race, were he and Per Ericsson/CSP got it sold.
Today it is Udos very succesful car. Just saw the EBI 1 DVD and it was nice. Happy to see how well you run Udo. Congratulations!

Anyway, this thread is about race engines
So below is Häcken Hugo, Mats 2332, with 230 plus hp and one of his famous gearboxes I recall, or did I mix that one up?
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/StmoritzwMats.jpg)

I dig the swedish thinking of home made is better, what about this little beast. Cut in half Ford BDA 16 valve head.

At this time the car made 11.8 in Germany on a bad track at Giebelstadt . It was very fast at that time . I only drove the gearbox 2 years and then replaced it with the one that i still have now.

Udo

Hi Rune,
You got that picture from my post in STF or from any other source? I am curious if you know were the engine is today?
It is originally built by Karl Erik Nilsson and was rallycrossed in the seventies. I heard it with Lucas timed FI at 10 000 rpm and made the most wonderful chills down my back.

Udo,
Thanks for input as now I remember more. It was Giebelstadt and finals against Roland Jutting, with what another magazine called "world fastest beetle" . Well Mats with his engine and my car were faster. Mats won it.
The green T3 was built by Keith Steinick and originator of CSP. He also built the so called ARPM 3 liter.

I also raced my Häcken Hugo some years before that in what I remember was Mainz Finthen. Engine at the time was the T1 and 911 heads.
During 1979 or 80, I think was first time I raced in Germany with the VW dragster. No idea what track but close to wherever the Haberman family lives/lived because we stayed in their house.

Now this thread is more old history and too little pictures, so I improve that by posting my all times high love of ACVW engine.
Can you imagine what Bob McClure would have done if he would have been alive today?
This is from an article in 1979 and he ran a 66 stroke 92 bore at 9.91 and 143 mph.
On top of it, the engine and car is beautiful. That is a race engine!
Some more infor on this man/legend and car on STF: http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=67786&highlight=mcclure
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/BobMcClure.jpg)

Tjena.
I have no idea were the motor is now. I found it for sale on blocket some years ago, can't remember who sold it or what the price was anymore.... To bad.  Awsome machine. Would have loved to hear the sound, but I guess I was'nt even born yet last time it ran....

During 1979 or 80, I think was first time I raced in Germany with the VW dragster. No idea what track but close to wherever the Haberman family lives/lived because we stayed in their house.




This was in Erlensee i think .

Did you own the car before in Sweden ? Interesting , perhaps we can meet on an event , Bugin , SCC ?

Udo

Hello Udo,

You are right. It was Erlansee with the Habermanns, apart from their friends a lot of American militaries partying. Really good time.
Do you know them? If you do, you also probably know Kent Trenneman who introduced a lot of pro Drag racing to Germany. He has been my drag racing mentor since seventies.

To be clear, yes. I owned your car between something like 1982 to when it was sold in Germany in 1987. Mats Herrlander borrowed the car from me 1987 as I was living in Canada at the time.

The ownership of the car before me was Hans Lindholm who is a VW icon in Swedish history for many of his special cars.
Probably the most famous was the 1303 with a front mounted Chevy smallblock and full stealth mode.
It looked 99% stock and just rumbled quitely.
It took a lot of people by surprise.
Hans Lindholm never raced Häcken Hugo. Then I am not 100% sure but I do not think anyone was in between him and the original builders.

You should also know that your car was the car that inspired me and my partner back in 1976 to choose a VW engine for our dragster.
We knew the ST Moritz Fashion crew very well (Göran, Leif and Eric) and we followed them on every race in Sweden throughout the years.
The car was painted in shitty orange brushpaint first time I saw it. That changed when "Pirk" did his master job.
It is still a classical paint job.
Would love to meet you Udo. I know what you look like as I have seen you on EBI interview from Kurt Källstroms DVD. (highly recommended DVD for anyone. It is done brilliantly in english too.   info@v-dubsvideo.com ) On top of it is coverage from SCC. Saw you race there too.....
Lets see when and what race I will attend next time.

Not a race engine but a nice car.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/stmrtz.jpg)

http://jhu.skynetblogs.be/archive-week/2006-10
Check out this link.
I recalled this story and googled it.
It is all there and some nice pictures too.

Can not lose too much touch of the thread so I add a race engine picture. One of the cars first engines.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/467_f7e9a3d0e8f75394e7757ebe478af93.jpg)

MMM i love white headers

I know the story on the homepage and the name kent trennemann , but don't remember the person .  ???

Thanks for the infos and looking forward to meet you .

Udo

I love early T-Birds!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Talking about Mats Herrlander, this is his Blown Boxer dragster engine. Now for sale.
ARPM 2-piece case, SCAT 86 mm Pro Drag crank, Pauter V4EO cam, Pauter Rodzillas 6,200”, 90,5 Mahle pistons in steel billet cylinders (2541), Racewear studs, Trimco billet heads, Pauter 1,4 rockers, Hilborn, Hampton 4-71 SC, double MSD-distributor (Trimco special), Oberg filter.
I will post some more pictures tomorrow when I get my scanner working. I have part of the engine block and the heads.

DKK Rick....me too ...All T birds are nice but I had a 1990 T bird SC which I loved. That supercharged 3.8 l engine was a purring lion. I loved it.

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/Blown20Boxer20Engine202008-01-15200.jpg)

Here you go!
Some "porn" pictures of a very nice engine.
Here the engine is featured with Jet titanium rods. Later the Rodzillas were used.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/scan0002.jpg)
Here are the famous heads hunked out of billet 7075 with a handdriven mill. It got Claes Ebbeneäs so hurt that he had use mitella for a lomg epriod of time. But he was proud of that mitella! ....and the heads too.

I took these pictures for an article in a Swedish car magazine about the Blown Boxer dragster.

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/blownboxrtoppar0001.jpg)

Bear with me but I just got a new scanner and I will use it to give you some VW history.
This is one of my engines that went in to the 1967 beetle.
This is in Italy probably around 1998.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/AutorotorFRTIV0001.jpg)

Here we have another nice contraption.
Twin engine with Scat split ports.
Twin turbo.
Very nicely built but it was not even started and then I never heard  more about it.
Sincerely think this could have had som good potential but only after a lot of sorting, which never happened.
Always wonder if the car and engines still are around in some dusty garage, somewhere.
Location is Sacramento 1988.

Anyone know more, please chip in with info!

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/twinenginetwinturbo0001.jpg)

Well, while we are on the theme of Twin....here we are with twin Magnusson MC80 on a 3 liter ARPM.
This one I did hear run and it was a beautiful...well noise, sound, rumble but again I think there was plenty to sort out as it was not that quick.
Again I recall this was Sacramento 1988. (Might be wrong on this one though)

If you do not stop me, I will add some more.

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/twinSC0001.jpg)

Back to 1987 and St Moritz Fashion aka Häcken Hugo aka Udo Beckers car.
Mats and Bosse Pedal doing a 228 hp dynorun. Nope, those are only test wheels for the dyno.....
Next picture is Mats posing on the front of Chrome & Flammen after beating Roland Jutting in the Giebelstadt finals.

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/MatsHbnkrning0001.jpg)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/Chromeuntflamme0001.jpg)

Roman, what header/stinger combo is that you are using?

Thanks,
tom.

EDIT: Nevermind...I kept reading... Custom made A1 1 7/8" exhaust with 2 1/4" collektor och 3" stainless muffler. :)

I saw this engine in a Dragster some years ago in Hockenheim . The swedish run in Competition that year with the Dragster .

Udo

Same theme but this time not twin engine or twin turbo but rather "Lets do ONE engine out of two!"

Did it work?
Yes in fact it did but I think the guys over engineered some solutions with it. In the back of a Buggy with CIS, a 914 gearbox and (then rumoured to run a home built sequential gearbox) but in any case, the car ran and it had a beautiful sound, says the ones I have talked to.
These pictures are taken June 1994. I think the car ran 95-96 but then it has been quite.

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/TIV8cyl0001.jpg)

(http://automanics.googlepages.com/47b7d727b3127ccebbd1ce2312f600000036.jpg)

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/414634.jpg)

My street engine  ;D  78x94 comp heads, T3/T4 turbo
Built in 1991 & upgraded heads in 2000.

tw

That is a nice engine Tony.
If you have had it since 2000 I guess it is well proven and tuned by now.
Reminds me in one way of my project that I started in my garage in Poland but have not finished and with the difference of a SC instead of the Turbo.
This engien has never been started and is still questionable if it will in this mode. Still have it though.
The engine does not fit any normal beetle but needs a major firewall modification.

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/2litkomprprojekt1.jpg)
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/2litkomprprojekt2.jpg)

That is a beautiful engine and I am the first to admit dreaming about building one very similar.
My only other choice would have been an Autorotor but I am sure this version will perform very well.

I assume you know Mario Tavares? We had a lot contact through the years since I imported their stuff to Sweden on hobby basis.
I also bought one of their first new engine blocks (and billet 94 mm crank) when they were released mid nineties for a Swedish dragracer. We often discussed if a Whipple/Autorotor engine would perform better on his sanddragster than the current turbo.
It seems there was a twin Whipple dragster built on a Pauter engine in the nineties but it was never made official. Something in the back of my heads says Dave Perkins was involved.

Anyway, Love your car and will love it even more with this engine in it. Good luck!

Dude you knowledge of these strange vw engines is so cool, keep feeding us more ?

frallen and udo thanks for sharing thoes cool pictures of those monters very nice. frallen i also would like to hear what happen to that dual engine dual turbo scat head monster. would be interesting to hear what happen. the arpm twin blower engine ran alot better in there dragster i also heard it run it truly sounded like a FLAT FOUR FULER!. thanks again guys.  UD.

Hello UD,

Yes and I did remember later that I saw the dragster north of San Francisco in the dragster.
Unfortunately they ran a bit too much nitro and lean, not a good combination and we only saw one half good run.
There was a turbo dragster that I video filmed which ran mid sevens. I must dig out those videos.
More pictures and stories coming but probably a week or two until net time.

(http://antonyl.brinkster.net/burns/engine.jpg)

WRT the boxer 8. - Yes the sound alone was awesome. It was reconfigured for the 2003 season. At that time it was bumped to a whopping 4,732 cc. and about 330 hp. if memory serves. It was equipped with fuel injection and had the sequential transmission in at the time. (They did have adjustement problems at the time. I do not know if the continued to work with that) Once when it was fired up, I was standing right behind the car. One of the very nice guys that built it, leaned in through the side window and turned the key, and it just started with that sound of a large high strung engine  :o I´m tellin ya, the hairs in the back of my neck stood straight out from my skin!!! - along with a few other parts of my body.  MAN.
I had a little contact with them for about a year. After that they sort of "disapeared" I have later heard rumours that the crankshaft broke in the 2005 season. That might be part of why we dont see it in public anymore. But what a great piece of engineering it was..
T

torben thanks for sharing that story 8) UD.

How about this: flat 12, dual turbo.... ::)

(http://fbodyeurope.org/gallery/8_v12TT.JPG)

Ole,........way out of line. Not a race engine or street. I think but more like driving in the desert and war zone?
Is it a tank engine?

It looks like a Centurion. They are sometimes used in tractorpulling.
T

Can it be that this motor was in a 914 sometime later on? I seem to recall seeing it at Bug Run some years back.. It ran on the strip, but did not run properly..

Yes. I think you are right.

Buggy first and then 914.

Anyone know something about this ? 2-stroke
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/10ef20cf-15a7-4ad5-9a1c-97aa7be69561.htm

Udo

Hi UDO the guys that built this engine were from Ontario Canada. The company they worked for was (is) called Kar andTrucks. They built some interesting vehicles in the time I knew them. They used to travel to North Carolina to race at Farmington Dragway once a year. One of the more interesting vehicles was a 72 Bus with 2.7 liter Carrera flat 6, RSR cams and fuel injected. This progressed into a larger 911 engine with twin Turbos.

The 2 stroke bug started as a MFI 4 stroke flat four on methanol. I only saw it once when it was 2 stroke, and it wasn't very fast. I think it ran 8.00's in the 1/8 mile. Still very cool, only because it was different.

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj274/OliverFrey/SacBugORama61008.jpg?t=1213283527) Eric Madsen

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Here is my current 2715cc N/A combo:
11.00@121.46 @1780lbs

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/Supoib.jpg)

Here is my Autorotor blower engine that I crashed in Nov '02.
Never got a full power pass.
2965cc 42psi 10:1 1250 *F exh temp...madness!
147mph @ 1870lbs

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/Davesblowncar.jpg)

Arrow points to 1.25" fuel line....yes 32mm.

This chassic looks very similar to one that sits in a VW repair shop near my house. Do you have more pictures?

Took me about 5 minutes to find the tiny bit of valve cover on the bottom right...

Here is a picture of my street motor in my friend John's car. I loaned him my motor after a little mishap during testing the thursday night before Bug In this past April at Fontana.

Just a little 10.7:1 2026cc with his 60hp shot of N2o. 10.78 @ 122 in his car.

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This chassic looks very similar to one that sits in a VW repair shop near my house. Do you have more pictures?
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Yes, I do have some pictures too but just look at the Engine Masters thread a little bit further down on the main page and you will find the body, as it looks today.
FR

WOW WOW and WOW!
LOTS of very cool engines in this thread!

(http://m-specmotorsports.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1558&g2_serialNumber=2)

Typ 4  2666cc Trijekt engine management

(http://www.aichlseder.info/seite_2/silber/vw1303s_8.jpg)

Very nice engine again Heinz!
But you are using the regular 4-1 Ahnendorp header for that big 2,7 liter engine?  :o
What does it make on the dyno with that exhaust??

Here's another type 4 : Frallan's twin spark 2732cc engine:

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/Frallan2/oilsystem.jpg)

And my own type 4 turbo with Riechert horizontal cooling on the dyno (loose fan on the intercooler):
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/fusca03/Motoren/100_2304.jpg)

The engine is not dyno tested  ::)
I have found no exhaust with 44 or 45 mm

(http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/54865.jpg)

Tangerine EVO-2 with 1 7/8" primaries. Its a 4-2-1 header, which is good for low-down torque that your after.
I made 220 hp n/a with that exhaust on a 2666cc...

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e311/iceman5152003/dougharvey2.jpg)

Wow! That's a big vacuum cleaner.... Is the engine in there somewhere?  ;D

its hidden in there
if u look under the coil u can c the fins on the head
gotta hide all the big power secrets

What cooling setup are these engines running? Its an electric fan right rather than crank driven.

Thanks,
Rob.

(http://home.comcast.net/~mlawless29/motor08.jpg)

Cool engine Mr Lawless. Would you mind sharing your tech specs with the rest of us?

Thanks.

Best rgs
BeetleBug

Hi Airspeed how do you find the horizonatal cooling is it equally efficient as the upright? Also have you had any problems wuith the belt coming loose?

Thanks.
Rob.

This particular engine is based on the new CB Performance "Raised Roof" aluminum case. The internals include an 84mm Scat flanged crank with Pauter chevy journal rods, a CB 2298 cam is installed a little advanced, with a set of the new CB lite weight race lifters, and Bugpack straight cut timing gears. The pistons are AA 94s with .060 deck including .040 copper head gaskets. The heads are CB CNC Competition Eliminators, prepared by Pat Downs at CB Performance, with 30cc chambers, it gives a pretty dang high compression ratio. Valves are CB titanium 48mm intakes and 40mm exhaust. K-Motion K-800 valve springs are used with 200 lbs on the seat and 450 open pressure. The Pauter roller tip rockers are advertised at 1.5. The crank pulley is now a custom made 4 3/4" Lawless Designs pulley with a provision for the Hilborn fuel pump drive pulley. Also installed is a J&G floater clutch with a four puck disc and a CB 2 inch header with a 3" stainless muffler of unknown manufacture. The induction for 2008 is Hilborn mechanical fuel injection with KRE throttle bodies set up to run on methanol. The ignition is all MSD, using their mag pick-up distributor, 8.5mm wires and 7AL2 box,

Thanks for sharing Mike! Here is a pic of my old engine....

Current Engine :)

2110 cc , 12.0 et naturally aspirated ,11.4 with gas :)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/harvdona/Sept08047.jpg)

Wicked!

WOW some amazing engines here makes mine look rather weak in comparision, in a few years possibly get something bigger  :D

...my 1835 son ready to fire up :)

NEW PICS

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The motor in my fasty :)

Looking good Patte!The same HP as last year?

Regards.
Stian

Thanks Stian.
Yes its still the same :)
But i have already cracked a engine case 2 weeks a go :(
This time i think i have found the week spot,so a new case is welded and going to be milled tomorrow.Hopefully it will hold together this time.
It seems like the rev limiter puts to much stress on the cyl head studs and making the case to crack, so bye bye revlimiter ;)

Regards.
Patte

Can´t think of any other engine that looks better with 48´s

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Is that a 4 cam on IDA's  :o ??? :)

Is that a Porsche engine?? Wow, they are fast!  ;)

8)

I am green with envy. How does it run?

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Rune, I know this is going back a bit, but do you know anything more about this? Interesting project! Did it get done?

Edit: I saw your post a little later that said you had lost track of it. But does anyone know?

Hmmm VERY interesting :o

Love those swedish home made engines,here you have mine..

A bit of topic,but what about a swedish 4x4 porsche 915 transmission.. ;)

I have ALWAYS wondered about 4x4 vw's  ;)

Any more info?

If it ran????

I followed this engine and car as it was originally running in the late seventies in Rallycross.
The inventor was Karl Erik Nilsson in Sweden
The crank, rods, all the castings and much more was fabricated by himself.
The sound of it at 10 000 rpm in Svampabanan/Tomelilla gave me chills. Almost everytime I pass that track, still today his car and engine is the one I think of.
The above picture comes from an advertisement some years ago. One or more copies of his original engine were built with Saab 4 valve heads. They were also turbocharged like this one is. The first years it ran NA and Lucas timed fuel injection. How beautiful!.

So a couple of these should still be lying around somewere. Ford BDA and Saab headed.
Look closer and look at wahat was done to the center bearing saddles. Replaced with steel in combination with the side steel plates.

thats just AWESOME - true engineering  ;D

are there any sites out there on the web with more info on these OHC/Rallycross motors  ???

apfelbeck.nl

But why is the cam gear stil there iif you use ohc ?

gr henri.

To spin the oil pump? ;)

More swedish d.i.y....Mika Jansson ( spelling ??  ;) )...Got a lot of old race videos with his cars,but can't find any engine specs. Maybe some of the guys from Sweden can help ?

(http://photos1.blogger.com/img/91/2470/1024/micka.jpg)
(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images/000/651/173_96d85cd7c78749ccc3172e9ca343e7c7.jpg)

Amazing! More details please!

OK, both those pictures are Mika Jansson cars.
He started in mid eighties with a regular beach buggy, t1 and turbo.
First time out with Predator and regular carbs. No idea how quick he went but it was comparably very respectable.
He soon converted to Sune Jansson style T1 with 911 heads, single turbo, sometimes twin turbo, Kugelfisher 3 D mechanical injection, new drag race buggy (currently for sale in Swedish ads without engine) and then the last car he raced was full race beetle with turbo, efi and final season a monster twin Autorotor supercharger and running high 5 seconds on the eigth mile.
Very impressive engineering and very good performance plus good shows on the track.
Thanks Mika and team!

VIDEO (http://www.aichlseder.info/video/autoslalom_2.wmv)

Well,here you have mine 4x4 beetle.Was used in the European rallycross championships in 84-85,before the Group B cars.I'm going to restore it one day like it was in the 80's. :)

Hi Stian,nice find.Who drove this car? 1302 or 1303?And what's the enginesize?
I went in 1985 to the eupopeanchamp. in Holland,and there was that "monroe" sponsored beetle from I think Nilssen.Great too see this bug flyin' low.
(those were the times)  ;)

Now thats got me thinking :o  Given the current road conditions here that would be really fun as a road car :)  I know where an old british rallycross beetle is kept,but it was only 2wd and has a more conventional beetle engine.

 cheers richie,uk   

Now that would be a fun winter toy to have, Great Find Stian  ;D

Hey.
I'm still searching for information regarding this car.From what I have heard and found out this car was driven by a famous norwegian rallycross driver named Thor Holm,at that time the car was yellow.I have been told that Thor bought a 4x4 beetle like this one from Michael Nordström-Sweden,the same guy driving the car you remember from europeanchamp. in Holland 85.My car also had the intercooler placed above the engine lid,before the former owner cut it away because he wanted to place the intercooler inside the car.It is possible it is the same car,hope to find out one day.Have come in contact with one of Thor Holm mechanics from the 80's,waiting to get some more information from him.Regarding model it's mostly a 1303 but with a 1302 front and straight front window,not sure why but was told beacuse of some sort of rules.Engine is a 2.3 with turbo/intercooler,porsche heads,Kügelfisher mechanical injection-can't wait to open it up and have a look.. :P  

Yes,that's the one.Thx for the info.

2387 T1, 215 HP.

www.gbotaircooledperformance.dk

Here is a couple of mine

The First couple are what I had in the Fiat -- This was a large TIV David Whitehead motor

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Then I went to a 2165 turbo motor

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Sold the car with that motor -- so now I building the '56 oval using this motor

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It is a 2919 ARPM motor with angle port heads -- I'm planning on it looking something like this when done

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Something familiar with that turbo set up  ;)

Yeah, think I have seen it before ;-)
Looks very nice though so I understand why he wants it to look like that

I've pulled 20-25 pictures of motors with the turbo setting under the apron -- Still don't like the way the intake snakes around -- also I have a larger turbo and don't know if Ill have enough room under the apron so thinking about putting the turbo in front of the motor/ by the axles -- got to get the motor finished and stuffed into the '56 so I can start sticking the turbo in various places and we will see where it all end up LOL

\But you are right it is a pretty motor

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I just need to find a intercooler like this one LOL -- The water tank for it is on the other side with a small radiator under neath near the oil cooler

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Here is my 2596 ccm.

(http://teamangoraracing.dk/download/file.php?id=1218&mode=view)
(http://teamangoraracing.dk/download/file.php?id=1193&mode=view)

Can't see the pictures  :( 

Would you guys like to come to Drachten (Netherlands) for racing ? I think it is not so far away from Denmark !

Udo

hey udo. we are making a game plan for this year. when is the race in netherland and ather dates for aircooled race you know about.

Yes the plas is to go to drachten its like 650-700 km so not so bad, but it's more then one time right??

But as peter says we are goner plan witch races we are going to in 2010, so our girlfriends know when they have to sleep alone... LOL naa I think my girlfriend whould love to come to the races she can drive the ATV so she can pull me back to the pit.

Christian

Hey,would be nice to see you there . you can race in Pro ET . They have 3 days events and have 8 qualifyings . so you can drive a lot ..
Infos are here  http://www.explosiondragracing.com/  on the left you see the dates

Udo

:o :o :o only in Norway  ;)

Lets have some more info on the running gear please dude  :)

Sooo many nice engines , shame we can not see the internals ...
Regards

Mine on the dyno at Jay Cee

Hi Bernie

Any results ? Looks good .

Udo

Scat dry sump engine 2332cc allmotor plus nitrous (still sorting out) Only small valve heads 44x37 , 170hp at the wheels ( allmotor)

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r151/Dak-A-Tak/vw%20warwick%202010/DSC00538.jpg)

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r151/Dak-A-Tak/DakATak%20Bug/100_1480.jpg)

2387cc , cb comp heads , 218hp at the wheels

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r151/Dak-A-Tak/Rods%2048IDA/106_0304.jpg)

Dakatak: I have to ask and please do not take it as a insult:

A 2.3 RACE engine producing 170hp. I take it for granted it is WHP and without nitrous? Thats 74hp pr litre. Even with the most "HP friendly calculators" it hard to get above 200hp at the flywheel. 

Take the Nash engine as a example as well, 2.7 with all the worst bits and bobs -  220 WHP.

Do you know what calculations you guys use when dyno testing your engines?

Best rgs
BB

That is wheel power.
Pete's engine has never been dyno tuned.
but with the small port heads he has, there is probably less than 15 more wheel HP to find.
(170 was with NO nitrous at our dyno day 4 years ago.)

Michael Nash's car made a best of 228wheel,(226 with the smaller venturis),
and recently ran 10.47@132.75mph in a 1490lb car.
The extra air being naca ducted into the air box from the back and side windows at the track
has increased the power,( and it DID need more fuel than the dyno).

Most popular dynos in Australia are "Dyno Dynamics" and correct the number to a standardized set of weather numbers for comparisons.
My calculations show Peters to make about 190 FW hp and Michaels to make 256FW at the dyno,
 and 272FW at the track, based on his mph.

These engine power CALCULATIONS seem to match closely the figures seen on superfow engine dynos.

The formula I use asks you to divide the MPH by 234,
cube that answer,
and multiply the answer by the weight in pounds.

11% is a random number I use for wheel power, and seems to match everything that I have seen.

Most popular dynos in Australia are "Dyno Dynamics" and correct the number to a standardized set of weather numbers for comparisons

I think this is what a dyno must do and show the engine power . I have now one Bosch dyno on which i can work that is calibrated and it got a certificat that it shows the right numbers :-)

Udo

Dangerous, thank you for confirming that there is nothing "special" with your dynos down under. Most guys I have talked to use between 8 and 12% in their calculations from WHP to FHP.

A 44mm intake valve is certainly able to flow more than 187 FHP (170 + 17) and you do not need to search further than this section of The Lounge to find examples. As a extreme you can look at the "mouse" thread and the 1603ccm engine with a 43mm intake valve that produced 196 FHP on it's last dyno tests.

Personally I can not think of a more boring engine than a big stroker with a Engle cam, CB heads, 48 IDA's and the typical 150 - 170 hp and the excuse you always get is that they work or they are drivable or they last forever and of course the most popular excuse they are cheap If I built a dedicated RACE engine that produced anything less than 100hp per litre I would be very disappointed. As a matter of fact I would even call it a poorly built engine.

10.47 in such a light car is just a start and nothing special . That ET should improve based on the weight and your calculated HP and it's confirmed by the mph. It is one of my favourite race builds and it's a shame that it does not have a matching engine.

My favourite nitrous engine was recently sold (very cheap I might add) 2332ccm, 12.8 CR, CE heads by JPM, JPM raptor cam and EFI. It dyno'd 266 FHP on a very safe (read fat AF) without the nitrous and used a 135hp shot at the races. It was increased to 2386ccm and built to take a bigger shot of nitrous before it was sold.

Just my 2 cents.. Now heading to the garage. Sun is shining, it's around +8C and the last bits of snow is soon gone. Spring is here!

Someone was wanting internal pictures -- here they are for my current 2919 build

pauter crank and rods

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/CrankandRods.jpg)

Angle port heads 48x38

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/angleheads.jpg)

the siamese barrells in 101.6 (4")

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/arpm001.jpg)

cylinders and pistons

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/pistonsandcylinders.jpg)

Heads finished and installed

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/gettingclose.jpg)

Almost completed -- I have everything in the engine compartment including the innercooler -- should be ready to fire the thing this coming week -- if I get off my ass and quit posting chit on the internet lol

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/2011-04-10_update.jpg)

Didn't know Pauter made H-beam rods.

They aren't -- they're carrillo chevy rods

2275   turbo, 400 plus dynoed FHP,

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D&A Racing SS/VX engine on Heads Up Dyno

(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz61/cbigpwr/IMAG0046.jpg)

Dyno sheet.

Right at 240 HP from 7600 to 8500 --- real nice power band -- real nice

Nice, how big is it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJK5zlbvGtA&feature=player_embedded

2386ccm, 10.7:1 CR, 245 FHP with muffler and belt @ 7250 rpms. But it does not belong on this section since it is a street engine running on ordinary pump gas.

Best rgs
BB

Correct.
My old 2387 made 228 hp with JPM ported 044 heads and 44 mm intake (made 11.29 in full street trim). It could have made more power if I had tweaked it a bit more.
240 hp on a 44 mm intake isn't impossible even on pump gas.

Edit; oops! I just remembered that I installed 46 mm intake on them...

This is a real nice engine with real power,  as the et's show  . Not only dyno numbers :-)
Congrats ...
Udo

that torque number is starting to fall @ 8100 rpms.....something must be wrong  ;) ;) ;D

Engine specs:

2275- 139 c.i.
Bugpack Street Pro castings 44x37.5, welded, ported, Manley titanium valves, copper seats, PSI springs
15:1 Wiseco pistons, Cima cyliders
Bugpack 82mm flanged crank
Pauter rods 5.4
Bugpack Aluminum case
Engle cam, .630 lift w/ Pauter 1.5 rockers
48 ida's with 42 venturis
SKAT TRACK manifolds

Best performance- 6.79@100mph 1/8 mile  12pounds per inch 1670 ponds
                             10.85@124 1/4 mile
                             10.60@130 1/4 mile 11 pounds per inch (during Sacramento Super Street race)

Anthony D&A Racing

Thanks for sharing.

It confirms what Roman is saying above here with regards to a 44mm intake valve. 108hp pr litre, a proper race engine.

ET and mph is just about the most idiotic statement I can think of when it comes to the engine perfomance. The best engine in the world can not replace a poor car, a poor track or a poor driver.

BB

The biggest difference between european and american's is that in the us every engine and car is built for rules . In europe we have no rules so everybody can do different stuff . I like more to race time slips than big hp numbers :-)

Udo

I know what you mean. My Super Street motor makes 597 HP on a famous Orange County dyno and cant get out of its own way. Must be me??? On the same dyno a buddy of mine made 963 HP with his 2442cc turbo motor using a raptor cam, a mac truck diesel turbo and cb performance super valve springs but can only runs mid elevens because the car is a piece of crap and the guys shifts like my grandma????

Sounds like a very nice dyno that shows some 100 hp too much :-)

I'd rather have a fast timeslip than a trumped up dyno sheet. I always hear about these crazy dyno numbers, but we don't race dynos. When your cars over there run faster than ours "on the same playing field" I'll give you guys props. I'm not going to get all jacked up over a dyno sheet. We run against guys making 30 h.p. more than us in Super Street, but there have only been two cars to run 9's. Both from the same shop, both off the same dyno.

Or maybe you would be happy if I put my motor in a piece of shit car and still ran good numbers?

Anthony D&A Racing

 ;)
There you can see the difference anthony . I europe they do not like to race ...

Udo

I'd rather have a fast timeslip than a trumped up dyno sheet. I always hear about these crazy dyno numbers, but we don't race dynos. When your cars over there run faster than ours "on the same playing field" I'll give you guys props. I'm not going to get all jacked up over a dyno sheet. We run against guys making 30 h.p. more than us in Super Street, but there have only been two cars to run 9's. Both from the same shop, both off the same dyno.

Or maybe you would be happy if I put my motor in a piece of shit car and still ran good numbers?

Anthony D&A Racing
 
Funny... We in Europe always hear about these crazy ET's but we have yet to see one car from over there managing the same ET or producing the claimed HP when it arrives Europe.

 :)

When you have the chance to race a lot you risk getting faster - logical enough isn't it? Until we get the same race schedule we will always be slower so until then the least we can do is to build proper engines. Which brings this thread back to topic again.

@ RUN IT: nice contribution.

Sounds like you guys might need to stop working on the engine's a little and learn how to set up a suspension or prep a track or go to driving school or maybe correct the Dyno????? Sorry but I'll take the time slip over a dyno sheet anyday. Never heard of a racing association giving credit for the most dyno HP. Added a little pic of another one of our incorrectly built engines just to keep with the topic.

Nice engine , let's keep the pictures , this is getting too much off topic ...
This is one of ours that i like most  :-)

That where us guys over here are going wrong we need to stop gluing all of the track and just do 7ft groove. :D ;D

It´s an engine and I´m gonna race with it, so I think it can be called race engine :)
Last summer it dynoed 211 hp / 262 nm. Now with bigger carbs and 1.5 rockers I´m hoping it will produce a little bit more.

Nice looking too! Congrats with the good results.

BB

So running an eight is a bigger achievement over here... ???

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206599_10150544017445444_813030443_18175378_4162710_n.jpg)

More info please

John

Don't know much info of the top of my head, but Dave will all being well be at SCC this year with his N/A Pauter powered car!

Coming to play with the big boys huh ;) :)

Coming to show that a turbo or big blue bottle isn't always the best route :D

True! They are perhaps not the best ways but certainly the fastest.

I can't wait for this years show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Not true...  there is no turbo or blue bottles involved in the fastest runs on earth...

Good one! No need for turbo or nitrous when you`re car run on liquid explosives and use HUGE magnetos to ignite the bomb. That said, turbo`s are soon dominating the other classes and it is just a matter of time before they are able to play with the real big guys.

BB

Which runs are you talking about?

topfuel uses blowers, that's not N/A

Hi Jesus

I did not know that you can put your hands on such a big machine :-)
Good luck and i hope we meet somewhere this year ...

See you Udo

udo it's ian clark from WPS on the working pictures  ;)

Yeah but they are both hippies with beards  :) ;) :-*

here is a pic of my little guy

Very tiddy tube fitting !!

 :)

Nice turbo engine. I feel sorry for the distributor though, looks like it is in for some heat.

What are the specs? Methanol or C16? Dyno'd?

Thanks.

BB

It's a 1776   :D

.

1835cc I splurged for the big bore kit

this isn't for a race car...It's for my Boy's daily driver that will be used occasionally at the track and Unlimited Street racing.

(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq208/59dragbug/almostready.jpg)

Ooops
(http://home.comcast.net/~mlawless29/damage1.jpg)

that looks bad Mike,
a rod let go?

Lifter. It popped the lifter bore, and the chunks rattled around inside till they came out of the top.

Bearings were still almost perfect and the crank in OK and mag checked good. I have to put my two spare Pauter rods into service. It beat a couple of those up badly.

All part of the game. We'll be back in business for next season

Nice ventilation hole for the future :-D

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i hate looking at this engine then looking at mine  :-[ :D

few pics of mine in production

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/gluemixer/2fac0e2e.jpg)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/gluemixer/5f08eb96.jpg)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/gluemixer/82b61f87.jpg)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/gluemixer/10e97c6d.jpg)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/gluemixer/44407e06.jpg)

cheers andy

Ahhh.. Nice!! And hard to the bone! What about sharing some details Mr Newbury? We have only one purpose built nitrous engine in Norway. 276hp NA on a very safe (rich) AF and a 135hp on top of that. Ran a 9 last year.

BB

2540cc

This is my Racing Enginge...
Half Mouse... :-)
2180ccm and made a 11.40 at DDD this Year,with homeselfported Heads...

Well -- the 2919 is running -- having trouble with the EFI box or I'm having trouble with me LOL -- -- Click the picture

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/th_Oval5-9-2011.jpg) (http://s586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/?action=view&current=Oval5-9-2011.mp4)

love the pic,

Could you give me more details on car and motor please?

Lee

Thanks for the nice words!
The Engine is a 2180ccm with G.M.E Heads with 42mm inlet and 38mm Outletvalves.I ported the Heads bymy self,also the Big Beef Manifolds.
The Cam is a Fk87.Scat Flangecrank and EMPI H-Connecting Rods.
The Lifters are from Udo Becker 58g.
In ther Car i put a lot of work and Money since i buy them in Texas in 2006.Then it looks like a Roadworks.
The Flipfront and the Rear Fenders are Fiberglass,the rest is still Metal but lightened to the maximum.
Now it is the fastest Bug in Switzerland ;) In the 80is the Car was a Baja Bug i hear from the last Owner ;D
For next Season i will change the Pistons to a lightened One and hope i can go closer to the 10" with this small Engine. I rev it only to 7400!

Thanks for the info,

I'm assuming the engine is 82x92mm?
I'm building a 2110 and am at the point of trying to select heads. What are G.M.E heads?

Lee

Hi Lee

I guess they are Japanese Heads from the 80. or 90i.
Steve Becher run they also in hes sleeper..
Yes thats right it is 82mm Stroke and 92mm Bore,i orient me at the Engines in the 70is,then 2180 was big  :)
But Yesterday it was a Mouse...
Next Year i will come to you on the Ile to run at Shakespere,then you can watch the Engine at work  :D
Try to go faster in the "NoSuperflowheadsclass"

Regards

Front End

1835 cc

60 ft     1.906        1.797         1.843          1.881


1/8      8.674          8.550        8.552          8.575

1/4     13.758      13.575        13.532          13.554

Nice,

Get that 60ft down and you will see big improvements on your ET.

BB

i  would like to do  ???

in winter i make 1:1.25 rocker arms or better a FK 87 with 1:1.4 rockers ?

more compression now 10.5:1 better 11.5:1

and a rev limiter for better starts with a kpl. MSD Ignition AL 6 Digital ?

I hope for more rpm

now max 7000 and i shift by 7000  :o   all four gears max rpm on the 1/4 mile  ???

its only an 1835 cc  :D

clubmate had some problems with that type of ignition (the 123 model) above 6500-7000.

Nice times!! i had a 14.7 with 1776, do you have more specs?

http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,9877.30.html    :D :D :D :D :D

I rev it also only to 7200!
And your Engine looks bigger then it is ;) ;)

Yes and that's exactly why you should focus on improving your 60ft. You do not have the power to make up for a poor start.

It's the same problem that I have, done 13.07s at bitburg last weeks with an 1.94 64ft time.
Thats actually the best time the car ever did on a 60ft.
Engine is a 2054cc, light car, normal tires and stock gearbox.
What would you guys suggest to get lower 60ft times...

You have a low 12 sec car if you can improve your 60ft. Find out why you have such a poor start and fix it  :) DOT tires is a good start if you have problems with wheelspin. More launch rpm, rear suspension set up etc etc. The best 60ft I have seen with ordinary, radial street tires 205/70-15 is 1.61. This was on a very sticky track and after a good burnout. He basically gave it everything it got and if I remember correctly he launched with  7500 rpms. He used original torsion springs, bus snubbers an adjustable Konis to prevent the car from bouncing up.

A very aggressive clutch will also hurt your 60ft.

Mind you that a good 60ft goes for all racers. A poor start and you can just as well abort the rest of the run.

DOT tires , but you need a stronger gearbox with those tires

Udo

If you preload your car really well I do believe you can make a original gearbox last at least a couple of good starts. Preload is important.

My ready modified engine for race season 2012 . 8)

Gotta separate those HT wires! :'(

Should i take the Coilcable away from the fuel line or what do youe mean.Or all Ignition cables without straping? ??? ??

ok ,hopefully i undestood your advice right.I seperated all single cables without crossing and one diameter of the cable in space. :P

very good!

Functionally better, esthetically better.  Good advice Dangerous and well executed Vintageworks

I admit the the car drives better with seperated cables ,the acceleration is smoother than before and the idle is not so rough instead of befor by an cold engine.Thanks for your advise.

Here is my 2165cc turbo street motor for my 55 rag. So far I made 288whp and 282tq @15# on pump gas. More to come with better tune. (http://)(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/shag55/4962aa44.jpg)

Here is in the car. (http://)(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll186/shag55/905988cd.jpg)

nice car but turbo is resto cal ???.................... ::) ::) ::)

Oh wash your mouth out now :D

A turbo is too easy to get the power  :)

Udo

Only sissy boys use hair dryers  ;D ;D ;D

Yes and no! How els you going to get 300whp on pump gas?

S..t!  I am planning on becoming a 300hp hairdryer sissy in a 750kg car.
That is not sissy in my world, that is on the borderline of craziness.
Probably anyone with more than 140-150 hp in a beetle is in fact crazy. Whatever we rebuild in handling, brakes and safety devices, it is crazy.
.........and so much fun.

Just slap me around and call me Susan then.. oh wait,  you can't because you can't catch me when I'm taking off! :-D

But if you can't build a proper N/A engine, you won't get 'exceptional' results with a turbo engine either.

He will eventualy catch up with you... By following the thin line of gearboxoil... Susan!

If the oil line is thin then he will not catch up because he ran out of gear after approx 402 meters.

 ;D

Turbos are more like female , expecialy with injection  :D

Udo

I agree, they are challenging and can kill you.

I knew my comment would draw some witty banter and you guys didn't disappoint.  ;)

 8)

And they leak once a month...

2387cc - 266 HP - 370 nm (http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2453/dsc03731q.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/dsc03731q.jpg/)

Italian garage floor....Right? :-)

Italian floor garages for 70 years ............. :-)

Italian floor garages for 70 years ............. :-)
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Papyss, are you telling me your age also?
In any case, I had Italian floors for five years when I lived in Magreta di Formigine in between Modena and Maranello.
 It is for me the only way to go. I love it!

I have 46 years .................  ;D

And Italian door panels!

Not exactly racing engines but a picture of out garage's engine projects, all going into street cars and all should be finished before next summer.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Vt8vXQeLvMs/Tq_SlOk9wJI/AAAAAAAAAw0/jtt_MNcvUpI/s1600/family_portrait.jpg)

What kind of case is that on the right?

bugpack

Remember to scroll  ;)

This topic is NOT racing engines it is called OT, I am 53 this month. But 35 yeras with ACVW racing engines...

That is really a nice picture! Thanks for sharing.

frallan greeting......... :)

2386cc 195hp@wheels
(234hp and 266NM at flywheel)always belt on! ;)
(http://gallery.markopuikkonen.com/albums/uploads/Oval%20-54/Moottori/2386-Season2011-053.jpg)

And in dyno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVYS7Em3jCE&feature=player_embedded

-Puide-

My turbo engine 96 x 82 Turbo Holset HX40

I have ordered most of the parts, but at the moment my engine "lives" only at as CAD project  :D

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8411/moottorivw.jpg)

A lot of torque from 86x94 engine  :o  What is the recipe of this engine, cam and heads?

Niiiiiice! Looks like you guys know how to party!

At least they know how they like their coffee served  :)

The engine bay of my 68 (BJ/IRS) circuit racer bug with its 1915cc twin plug, EFI engine.

Sweet!!! I like it.

my engine , www.notchdrag.blogspot.com

I saw a lot of electric cooled engines in this thread....I don´t want to start discussion in this thread but some of thouse engines looked like they are used on streets too  ::)

If anybody does please let me know in PM or here : http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,16957.0.html

Thank you guys for great pics.

The electric fans are only for dragracing . The advantage is you can heat it up a little for oil and cool down the heads before racing. Never use it on the street

Udo

Closer than ever... 8)

Hakan

Interesting F1 style injectors.
Beautiful in general, is an additional comment.
Thanks for sharing!

Nice  ;)

Hi Folks,

Here is my 2332cc Street & Strip engine. 212HP on Dyno

(http://www.vwspirit.ch/upload_membre/albums/userpics/10011/se_bw_2010.jpg)
(http://www.vwspirit.ch/upload_membre/albums/userpics/10011/men_cs_machine_se2010.jpg)
(http://www.vwspirit.ch/upload_membre/albums/userpics/10011/dyno114_silence_eraser_update2.jpg)

See you soon
Julien

a picture of my new 2110 with IDA.

henk!!!

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2hyvxgw.jpg)

Here is my most recent photo of my 2699 normally aspirated engine.
With recent upgrades to the cam, exhaust and ignition
it now makes 259 at the wheels and has run 10.70 @ 126mph with the car weighing 811kg,
and also a 10.72 @ 125,7mph with more weight at 820kg.
With a little more tuning and testing I think there is another tenth or two, and perhaps another 1.5mph.
It is a constant project in the works and I have many more upgrades to do in future years.

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/Firststartupnewexhand775liftcam003.jpg)

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/myexhaust002.jpg)

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/MySurecamPortsandNotches022.jpg)

HAPPY NEW YEAR  ;D

With the recent interest in the cal-look engines thread, I thought this one was worth dragging up again.
This is my new engine for 2014. Still at the parts collecting stage at the moment but machining/assembly should begin soon.

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Thanks
Darren

Hi Stian !
Michael Nordström lives here in Gävle and he likes to talk "old times" :-)
He hade help from Sune Jansson when building the engines to the rallycross cars.
Will try to remember to ask him about this car when I see him next time.

/Juggas

My street/strip engine. 2459cc type 4 turbo 255hp 270ft/lbs torque at the wheels
(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z327/meza2011/102_1362.jpg)
(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z327/meza2011/P1040951.jpg)

The latest incarnation....
2332, MFI on methanol, best of 9.85 at 143mph. 1950 lbs, street legal. And fits under the stock deck lid
(http://lawlessdesigns.com/TurboFinis2.jpg)

Your Ghia is still the coolest example of a DRKC car in the world Mike -- --

Here is my attempt to challenge Mike for .. .. .. Oh crap, Mike wins -- I just exist in his shadow

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/20140107_091914_zpsh9slzg67.jpg) (http://s586.photobucket.com/user/Fiatdude/media/20140107_091914_zpsh9slzg67.jpg.html)

2963, EFI on 100LL, street legal, Busted Trans, stuck in the garage, doomed to failure LOL

Hi Mike and a happy new year to you from Norway. For a long time I have used your blog and your car as an inspiration for my own cars and I even have to admit that I have stolen certain ideas from you over the years. Your engine is a perfect example on how nicely things can be done so thank you for posting.

I wonder if you would take your time to write a little methanol summary? How do you maintain your engine in between runs? What fuel lines do you use, pump etc?

Thank you!

Best rgs
BB

New billet throttle bodies: 64mm

Made from solid blocks, over 100hours on a conventional milling machine.
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=58055&page=43

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/MM63_zps70c14a6f.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/dangerous_05/media/MM63_zps70c14a6f.jpg.html)

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/MM75_zps57c072e4.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/dangerous_05/media/MM75_zps57c072e4.jpg.html)

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/MM80_zps3b9d5aad.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/dangerous_05/media/MM80_zps3b9d5aad.jpg.html)

Wow!  I don't think my Harley pistons are that big, lol

I'll do that right here. You can copy and paste it wherever you like

Methanol is not as evil as many seem to think. I use an uncoated aluminum fuel cell, standard SS braided hose and SS hard line. I use Earl's AnoTuff fittings throughout.

At the beginning of a race day, I'll start the motor to get some heat into it. With the lower compression of the turbo combo, it needs a bit of starter fluid. When it had 14-1 compression, it fired easily with no starter fluid. Once it's running, I'll warm the motor by pulling the fuel shut off out enough to lean it out significantly. Enough to raise the idle speed a few hundred RPM. (With MFI, the idle mixture is typically much much richer than an EFI or carbed set-up would be. As such, leaning it out actually makes it run cleaner and warmer. However it needs to idle rich enough to respond to throttle)

The BIG BIG thing with methanol is keeping water out of it as it will pull moisture right out of the air. That is when it becomes corrosive. I also use a fuel lube. Usually Red Line. The car seems to like that the best. I don't argue with the car anymore. I never win those arguments.

If my events are fairly close together, I'll leave the fuel system full. After an event, I'll fill the fuel cell to the top and cap the vent. I've gone a couple weeks between events like this with no troubles.

If the events are farther apart, I'll drain the system thoroughly. I have drain valves and capped fittings set up at various points in the system to facilitate this easily. After the system is drained, I'll undo fittings at certain points and squirt some WD40 into the line and blow thru with air. After that, I'll mix some fuel lube (the same I use in the fuel when running) in about a 8-1 ratio with gasoline and pump that thru the system.

Then I'll try to fire the motor to get the gasoline thru. Finally, remove the nozzle lines from the injectors and then squirt some starter fluid into the intake and try to start the motor. When it gets to the point where it isn't trying to sputter anymore, it's complete. Remove the spark plugs and squirt a bit of WD40 into the plug hole.

The worst thing is allowing fuel to collect, then sit in the barrel for extended periods. It will draw moisture from the air and actually corrode the barrel where it puddles. That's why it's important to purge the motor.

Also, I ALWAYS remove the injector lines from the injectors after a days racing. Even if it's just overnight. I've found that because the nozzles are below the tank, even with the fuel shut-off closed, fuel still dribbles into the barrels. By doing this, I keep fuel from contaminating the oil excessively. After an event, I'll plug the oil heater in, remove the oil cap, and let it heat for several hours. This gets the oil hot enough to evaporate the fuel that finds it's way in.

It may seem like a lot of work, but if the fuel system is configured in such a way as to make it easy to do, it only takes about a 1/2 hour.

In my opinion, methanol is the perfect fuel for a VW. In the time I've been running it, (when tuned properly) the motor has never gotten hot. The hottest I ever recorded the heads was 200° after making three back to back runs. Now, I did have some cylinder damage at the March Meet in 2009, when our last four rounds were fifteen minutes apart. (This was mostly an engine building error on my part by setting the ring gaps too tight. It got warm, the gaps butted and scraped the cylinder walls). For normal events, it might see 150° and it's cool enough to lay your hands on the heads within 15 minutes.

Amazing work!

Thank you very much Mike! Very interesting! Currently using Ethanol and consider doing the swap on the new engine.

-BB-

Here's my 1300cc motor built for Historic Touring Car Racing. 126bhp@7400, 96ft/lb@5500 (still has 92ft/lb@7400!!) Spec: 1285cc, 44 webers, Cam FK10, rockers 1:25.1 inlets 1:1 exhaust, VW twinport heads with stock size valves, CR 11:6.1, running on Sunoco RMR fuel, Cooling by ram air, 12v fan and twin external oil coolers.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/beany1/racecarmotor.jpg)

Very cool  :)

Some Racing engines and heads from GetBackOnTrack...

Fell free to contact us on gbot@live.dk if you need Work done or check our facebook site "GetBackOnTrack"

Regards, Jakob.

(http://www.aichlseder.info/bilder/2_ohc/11.jpg)

H_Aich, can you share the years of that engine?
Do you know what year and where the first ones with this 911 4 cylinder concept was built?
I hear Austri and I hear Germany around 1973-74. Could that be correct?

This is Walter Mayer´s engine (Höbart) ..... Austrian Rallyecross Champion 1981
(http://www.aichlseder.info/bilder/2_ohc/14.jpg)
(http://www.aichlseder.info/bilder/2_ohc/15.jpg)


Walter Mayer´s engine (Höbart) 1980
(http://www.aichlseder.info/bilder/2_ohc/7.jpg)

The first one was built 1976 by R. D. Höbart      Mödling/Austria

I am the owner of the last one, built 1993 by R. D. Höbart

Interesting!
A Swede was national Rallycross champion around 1974 maybe 1975 with a NA engine of this style.
If I recall right his name is Mikael Nordström. He then built the car both turbo and 4WD.
This is the source of why we/I built my engine in 1977.
I just get the feeling that someone in Austria or Germany might have done it earlier than 1976.

Tried to Google some information but came up short.
Same years around 1975, Karl Erik Nilsson I think his name was, built another fantastic T1 with Ford BDA heads. But that is another story.....back a couple of pages on this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmxDbdbymUw&list=UUiATU_kg33Pw5K5FRUXoqxg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX3YYKDxU-o&list=UUiATU_kg33Pw5K5FRUXoqxg&index=2

BIG thumbs up!

Great Work Dave ;)

I miss this topic - must be some new race engines around  :)

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Nah, the new cool thing is HIGH horsepower street engines  8)

Street 2332

2332 cc street-strip engine, 204 HP to the wheels on pump fuel (remove fan belt on the drag strip):

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2uj593m.jpg)

(http://i64.tinypic.com/qsmgyb.jpg)

Where is the like button?

15 or 20 HP depending on how tight the rubber band is wound -- -- only a little over 2960cc

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/Ghia/engine%2020161005_zpsykbbrohn.jpg) (http://s586.photobucket.com/user/Fiatdude/media/Ghia/engine%2020161005_zpsykbbrohn.jpg.html)

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/Fiatdude/Ghia/20161011_2030281_zps9s3febux.jpg) (http://s586.photobucket.com/user/Fiatdude/media/Ghia/20161011_2030281_zps9s3febux.jpg.html)

What quarter mile times does this run ?

Never bolted slicks on it, so it spins the tires real well at Irwindale  --- But it does very nicely around the cones at your neighbor parking lot........

You don't need slicks to go quick if its making any power you will make up for the bad start. sounds like fun driving round cones though!