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Title: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Rocket Ron on April 04, 2008, 20:03:02 pm
Anyone used bugpack s/e heads to good effect

any comments welcome


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: dirk zeyen on April 04, 2008, 20:23:45 pm
hello,
street eliminators running hotter than stock heads, the biggest problem is the lack of cooling fins around the exhaust port, but maybe sometimes someone will try to weld in some more fins....

dirk zeyen


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Rocket Ron on April 04, 2008, 20:40:29 pm
been offered them as part of a package with some 48's , how much hotter do they run, ok for street use ?


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: dirk zeyen on April 04, 2008, 21:02:56 pm
don't know, because i never run street eliminators, but in the past i often thought about buying street elis and weld some extra fins around the exhaust port. i never saw a cracked street eli, but i saw many cracked 044...


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Rocket Ron on April 04, 2008, 21:15:49 pm
Amen brother

my last type one had 044 with cracked heads


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: dirk zeyen on April 04, 2008, 21:23:44 pm
044 ;D ;D ;D
try it!!!
some "street cars" run with street elis, but i don't know if this are realy street cars...


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Udo on April 05, 2008, 07:52:20 am
been offered them as part of a package with some 48's , how much hotter do they run, ok for street use ?

I think it depends on how you drive on the street , only cuising woul be ok .

Udo


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Rocket Ron on April 05, 2008, 08:03:22 am
I was thinking of building a stroker with short rods for power lower down,I like a bit of low down grunt, but I do drive a bit hard but not with to much revs::)

My current trip to work is about 18miles each way but I'd like it to be usable for trips to bugin etc cruising about 3-3500 rpm.

Would it help if I kept the compression down or am i better selling them and getting something else?


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: marko on April 05, 2008, 12:41:59 pm
www.phnet.fi/public/hefor1
Here is links to you,2.0l engine and 200HP on wheel.


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Bewitched666 on April 05, 2008, 16:57:41 pm
Drove my 1915 with s/e heads in florida and in curacao where its quite hot and with no problem.
But must say that i used all the original tin on the engine with a porsche cooling fan,maybe that
produces more air than the stock fan.Goodluck 8)


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: boxertje on April 06, 2008, 17:02:33 pm
They do run hotter,but what the hell if you don't drive long distances.If you do,044 or other heads based on o44 are a better choice.


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Jim Ratto on April 11, 2008, 00:38:40 am
I ran the CB versions for years on my street car, 42 x 37 ported them myself, copying Pauter B heads. The car did in fact run hotter than I wanted it to, and because of that I added small Mesa under RH torsion housing, in addition to the 72 plate Mesa on LH side and doghouse and then the car would go for miles and miles. I drove the car about 37K miles with those heads on 2276 with FK8 and FK10 and 7.8:1, yes eating too many Zotz.
Car ran pretty good though, with fan belt and radials and Flowmaster it went 13.70's @ Sears Pt.

I think the way to go for a street car is to use a VW head.




Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Rocket Ron on April 14, 2008, 14:17:46 pm
Thanks for the reply

Still waiting for the guy selling them to get back to me. I've been waiting nearly a week for a paypal address ::)

Still I may just sell them on if the're no good for the street as the're coming as a package with some 48idas

By the way what sort of head temps were you running and what was that average air temp. Its a lot cooler over here most of the time do you think it would make any difference?

Ron

ps nice photos   


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on April 15, 2008, 12:06:04 pm
which heads are you talking about

Bugback Super flows ? Or CB Comp E ?s

Often 2nd hand sets of Superflows dont seal well and leak , do to having an O ring design and then people tightned them up to much and damage the seal.

Alot of people run Comp Es on the street with alot of good times .

Get the heads checked out, what are the sizes etc ?


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: benssp on April 15, 2008, 13:20:49 pm
Also what springs are you running? if you run K800's the seats tend to sink over time with lots of use ;D


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Rocket Ron on April 15, 2008, 13:54:00 pm
These are a brand new set of bugpack SE heads (44x37) for 94's and should be as follows

Bugpack SE Comp heads
S/E™ Comp Heads are the result of Bugpacks extensive head development program. As with the S/F™ Heads, these brand new heads are built from the ground up — not redone! The main objective was to bridge the “gap” between all out race heads and reworked stock heads and that mission was more than accomplished. It will be necessary to modify your stock dual port end pieces to match the intake ports on the heads to run a single carb. Just check out these
features:
• Computer designed intake ports.
• Fits without modification in any street car.
• Added material around combustion chamber.
• Fully machined combustion chambers.
• Increased valve spring support.
• Increased valve guide support.
• Increased material between seats.
• Long reach (3/4”) spark plug bosses.
• Flow increase of 70% out of the box!
• No special exhaust or sheet metal needed.
• Extra cooling fins over the exhaust port.
• High flow along with high velocity.
• Forged 1 piece Stainless Steel valves.
• Accepts stock valve cover & clip.
• Dual racing springs.
• Chromoly retainers with hardened locks.
 
 hope that helps


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Brown-nose on April 15, 2008, 14:36:39 pm
which heads are you talking about

Bugback Super flows ? Or CB Comp E ?s

Often 2nd hand sets of Superflows dont seal well and leak , do to having an O ring design and then people tightned them up to much and damage the seal.

Alot of people run Comp Es on the street with alot of good times .

Get the heads checked out, what are the sizes etc ?

S/E= STREET ELIMINATOR  ;D



Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Jim Ratto on April 15, 2008, 16:28:30 pm
These are a brand new set of bugpack SE heads (44x37) for 94's and should be as follows

Bugpack SE Comp heads
S/E™ Comp Heads are the result of Bugpacks extensive head development program. As with the S/F™ Heads, these brand new heads are built from the ground up — not redone! The main objective was to bridge the “gap” between all out race heads and reworked stock heads and that mission was more than accomplished. It will be necessary to modify your stock dual port end pieces to match the intake ports on the heads to run a single carb. Just check out these
features:
• Computer designed intake ports.
• Fits without modification in any street car.
• Added material around combustion chamber.
• Fully machined combustion chambers.
• Increased valve spring support.
• Increased valve guide support.
• Increased material between seats.
• Long reach (3/4”) spark plug bosses.
• Flow increase of 70% out of the box!
• No special exhaust or sheet metal needed.
• Extra cooling fins over the exhaust port.
• High flow along with high velocity.
• Forged 1 piece Stainless Steel valves.
• Accepts stock valve cover & clip.
• Dual racing springs.
• Chromoly retainers with hardened locks.
 
 hope that helps


don't believe the hype

find some VW heads or 044's


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: haldex201 on April 20, 2008, 22:26:19 pm
Take a look on the MS 230 from JPM, you can do it better for your self, here you have all in one.
I have race engine with bugpack heads , sorry! but i can get the heat away from it. 

www.jpmotorsport.se

Best Regards

Haldex201

 


Title: Re: bugpack s/e heads any good?
Post by: Rocket Ron on April 21, 2008, 14:52:05 pm
I will be going with vw heads i think.  I want a fast street car not a racer 8)

After all the advice I been given I dont want any problems on a car thats going to spend 99% of its time on the street, just to get an other 10hp if I'm lucky

Thnak to all that responded to my post  8) 8)