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Title: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: Phil West on April 11, 2008, 13:51:28 pm
Mate of mine used to know a Speedwell agent and bought a bag of nuts and studs from him many years ago - the agent told him they were proper BRM VW studs and nuts to go with the wheels on a Volkswagen.  We've tried them on A genuine BRM and they fit but are not marked.

Anyone heard of that before?

Cheers
Phil


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: John Rayburn on April 11, 2008, 17:04:37 pm
That's a Bill Schwimmer question.


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: Frank LUX on April 11, 2008, 17:26:27 pm
Mate of mine used to know a Speedwell agent and bought a bag of nuts and studs from him many years ago - the agent told him they were proper BRM VW studs and nuts to go with the wheels on a Volkswagen.  We've tried them on A genuine BRM and they fit but are not marked.

Anyone heard of that before?

Cheers
Phil

Pictures...???

When i used to own the Clyde Berg Race Car, the Studs and Nuts on the Flat 4 Wheels where from the Original BRM's he used to run, well that is what Clyde told me...

I could probably identify them if see a picture...

Frank


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: richie on April 11, 2008, 18:51:08 pm
Phil,if you can post a picture that would help,I have some here to compare to cheers richie,uk


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: ST DRAGN on April 11, 2008, 19:11:42 pm
My first set of BRMS's came with a 1 pc. stud  ( 12mm-to-14mm ). The 12mm was for the drum end, of 14mm end was for the Acorn type style lug nut..
 There is no way I was going to use them.( not safe for racing ) So, had 14mm press on all away around..


( Click below for photo)

http://www.amayesing.com/images/vwparts/brmlugs.jpg


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: benssp on April 12, 2008, 14:41:14 pm
Phil, complete tangent to the subject, your weight saving on the car is playing on my mind ;D

you could probably save a kilo by removing the jacking points on the floor pan, also an Ali beam??, no beard :P

p.s has anyone got any dimensions/ drawings of the BRM inserts, I'm thinking we could get a load made in aluminium, another weight saving, good suggestions from a fat guy! ;D


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: empicolector on April 12, 2008, 19:05:24 pm
A BOX OF A NOS SET FOR 2 WHEELS
BUT NOT MINE
 :P


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: Cornpanzer on April 12, 2008, 22:34:51 pm
Wow, those are scary!  :o


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: empicolector on April 13, 2008, 00:13:53 am
Wow, those are scary!  :o

yes I know


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: nicolas on April 13, 2008, 09:33:09 am
that system looks like the empi8 spoke system that is now for sale. it also has those studs and lugs, but flat and not the cups. but they will lot fit or tighten down properly, so don't by them. i have the BRM cups and some bolts. sorry for going offtopic :-[


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: Bill Schwimmer on April 14, 2008, 02:27:46 am
Wow, those are scary!  :o
  no way ... I will take them.  I have used those studs for decades,  they are fine. I have press in studs in the back now because of the type 3 drums.  As for the lugs, I have seen 2 different lugs some have a round top (I have a set of those)  the other type are flat , they look like a Porsche lug.  As for the hardware in the photo  that is very cool...    Bill


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: danny gabbard on April 14, 2008, 03:20:10 am
I have a spare set of studs only if any body is interested


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: Phil West on April 14, 2008, 12:55:22 pm
Thanks all for your replies, yes the ones in the pics are the ones he has (although not a complete set) so that confirms it!  Never knew there was such a thing.

Ben - in fact I just removed my jacking points.  A bit disappointed with the 400gms per side, but it's another couple of pounds down the drain.  I've taken another 50lbs off the car for this year  -  the ET calculator on http://robrobinette.com/et.htm tells me I should be able to achieve an 11.75 this year.  It was spot on for the 11.86 last year.  Will aim to have a go at Flame and Thunder with no tinware/fanshroud/alternator/alternator stand/oil cooler which is another 35lbs or so.

Thought about an ally front beam, however Pete cut mine so well and it was such a good original beam that I just can't let it go.  Plus with the 70ft wheelstands on the stinger I'm not sure it would be a great idea at present to make the front considerably lighter again.  For now I'm putting my pillar drill efforts into the back end.

Can't wait to get back in the saddle again and see what she can do!

Cheers
Phil


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: ST DRAGN on April 14, 2008, 18:49:45 pm
that system looks like the empi8 spoke system that is now for sale. it also has those studs and lugs, but flat and not the cups. but they will lot fit or tighten down properly, so don't by them. i have the BRM cups and some bolts. sorry for going offtopic :-[


It's hard to tell from the photo , if it' indeed for a 8 spoke wheel or not? The BRM spacer is much longer then the 8 spoke spacer...


Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: nicolas on April 14, 2008, 21:00:03 pm
that system looks like the empi8 spoke system that is now for sale. it also has those studs and lugs, but flat and not the cups. but they will lot fit or tighten down properly, so don't by them. i have the BRM cups and some bolts. sorry for going offtopic :-[


It's hard to tell from the photo , if it' indeed for a 8 spoke wheel or not? The BRM spacer is much longer then the 8 spoke spacer...

yes indeed i forgot to mention it as well. the 8 spokes use the same cup but the shaft is a lot shorter. otherwise they fit great. better then everything i have seen made aftermarket. and the 4 lugs are 14mm so i guess it is a 5 lug system that is shown as they have 12mm lugs originaly.



Title: Re: Original Speedwell BRM VW studs and nuts
Post by: mr.speedwell on April 15, 2008, 05:40:04 am
if anyone have some nuts for sale
 i  will be interest