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Title: wheel/tire combo... Post by: rebel on June 16, 2008, 19:37:44 pm Kill me all. but yeah, It's a 1302. And I'm in the process of modifying it in the late 70ties/early80s Cal-look style. I know it's a crime here, but I'm looking for some tech info, not comments in the 'get outa here' type of a tone.
I've got a set of 7 inch wide cookies. Damn too wide for front unfortunaltelly. I'm thinkin again about narrowing 'em. I've finally found an expirienced and licensed welder, who has done such things and is willling to help for far reasonable price. I almost lost any hope :D I'd have some questions on a rubber size though. I'm planning to cut the 7s an 1.5ich from the inside (to achive the 5.5inch size)just to be able to fit a very narrow tire under the front wings. (stock width of coz...) I've measured, that theese cookies have almost the same backspacing than my Weltmeisters. That means narrowing ain't gonna put them further towards the brake drum and it means they would go further out for about 2 inches. I wonder how narrow tires should I choose to make them 'hide' under the fenders. I was thinking about 135/80 or at lower profile. What are your thoughts guys? Another thing is the rear axle. The 7s are staing as they are. No cutting. I want to achieve an 'fat-tire-olschool-look', which I think 205/70 would suit best, but the other thing is of course Performance :) My Powerplant ain't huge, but strong enough to give some fun - a 1914cc/40x37.5/C35cam/40DRLAs. Don't know the power numbers yet, but I don't want to lose seconds at take off because of too much rubber and risk trans breakage (bonestock for now)... What are your types? Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Zach Gomulka on June 17, 2008, 15:29:12 pm Cookie cutters.... cool. The difference between the 7's and the 6's is an additional inch to the outside on the 7's. They have the same backspace. Therefore, if you narrow your 7's, it wont pull the tire inside the fender any more than it used to, you will still have to narrow the beam the same amount. You would be best off trading a pair of your 7's for a pair of 6's, then having the 6's narrowed down. What size tires are your running up front? If you are going skinny, like a 145, I would get the 6's down to 4 1/2"s.
The 7's will look okay with 205/70's, but will look a little better with 215/65's, IMO :) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: rebel on June 17, 2008, 18:55:44 pm Thanx for aswer, man.
I was afraid about that really... Although I measured it twice, I think. I can't narrow the beam, coz it's a super :P That's why I'm so nervous :) I think the rims may stick out a 1/2inch o so. That is why I wonder if it is possible to set the tyre/rim combo in a way to make the top of the tyre to be like that: /_\ and therefore to fit the rubber under the fender. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: John Rayburn on June 18, 2008, 01:51:57 am For the ten millionth time, there were lot's and lot's of Cal Look Super Beetles, as well as other late VW's. There is no crime!!!!
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Zach Gomulka on June 18, 2008, 02:24:52 am Oops! Forgot that you said it was an 1302 ::) You will be much better off finding a pair of 6's for the front and having them narrowed. Narrowed 7's wont make it, they simply have too much "frontspace", which wont be altered no matter how much you narrow the back of the wheel. And having the wheels like this /_\ will just make your tires wear out prematurely. Sorry to tell you this, but I suspect you are also going to have problems on the rear with a wide tire like that. I reccomend narrowing the rear trailing arms like I did on my GTV :-\
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: rebel on June 18, 2008, 18:08:06 pm For the ten millionth time, there were lot's and lot's of Cal Look Super Beetles, as well as other late VW's. There is no crime!!!! Sorry, John... don't be mad at me :) It was just a teaser :) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: John Rayburn on June 18, 2008, 22:17:39 pm I'm not mad, just want to make sure that people know that there were many of them back then, despite what people believe. I'm glad your building a late model, and I don't want people telling you it's not proper! Enjoy your 1302!!
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: speedwell on June 18, 2008, 22:24:53 pm and some nice 1303 john like this one i saw this one last year at the DAS cruise night in waterlo before european bug in 8)
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jim Ratto on June 18, 2008, 22:49:18 pm I'm not mad, just want to make sure that people know that there were many of them back then, despite what people believe. I'm glad your building a late model, and I don't want people telling you it's not proper! Enjoy your 1302!! John's always mad. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: John Rayburn on June 19, 2008, 03:47:01 am I'm not mad, just want to make sure that people know that there were many of them back then, despite what people believe. I'm glad your building a late model, and I don't want people telling you it's not proper! Enjoy your 1302!! John's always mad. and some nice 1303 john like this one i saw this one last year at the DAS cruise night in waterlo before european bug in 8) That's a cool car !Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: rebel on June 20, 2008, 18:00:23 pm coming back to the subject:
The 'Cookie Monster' project died, cause my 'cookies' do stick out about 1/2 inch and finding six-inchers around my place is kinda hard... :( I was afraid just to trust a ruler, so I took off my front the old, rusty Weltmeister wheel, and relapaced (for a test porpouses) with the 7 inch cookie rim without a tyre on. Well... It would not look ok, and wouldn't work aceptable either... Damn... If I theoretically get a set of 5.5 alloys all around I'd like to go for the oldschool wheel/tyre combo. I was thinking about 135/80 Nankang front/165/80 Firestone F560 in da back. I'm affraid if theese 135s would strech enough though. The other way is to go 145 front/195/70 in da back, but then performace would suffer... Oh, man... so hard choice stands before me... :) What do you think? Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Zach Gomulka on June 20, 2008, 18:04:22 pm IMO, 135s and 145s both looked stretched on a 5.5" rim. You could get reproduction 4.5" alloys up front and 5.5" in the back... ???
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: rebel on June 20, 2008, 18:08:55 pm Okay, my way of thinking was... Aronson/Holmes combo on 5 inch BRMs. The repros are acually ordered and waiting for delivery :)
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: John Rayburn on June 20, 2008, 18:15:49 pm You might consider 155's up front???
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: nicolas on June 20, 2008, 18:31:07 pm You might consider 155's up front??? those are really nice, but you'll need something a little fatter as a 165 tire in the back then, like a 185/70 that should look cool. or wider if you like that look. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: ESH on June 20, 2008, 18:41:06 pm ... just want to make sure that people know that there were many of them back then, despite what people believe. I'm glad your building a late model, and I don't want people telling you it's not proper ... 8) Wasn't there a chopped 1302 Gasser at Bug-In 33 parked up next to Zachs car and Animal Crackers? ... I might be going mad? :o (Anyone got photos of it?) ... some nice 1303 john like this one i saw this one last year at the DAS cruise night in waterlo before european bug in ... That car's been getting a lot of attention. 8) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: speedwell on June 20, 2008, 18:59:25 pm Wasn't there a chopped 1302 Gasser at Bug-In 33 parked up next to Zachs car and Animal Crackers? ... I might be going mad? :o (Anyone got photos of it?) the treuhaft 1302 Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: rebel on June 20, 2008, 20:05:29 pm Aw, maaan... Thaks, Fabs!!! :D
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: ESH on June 20, 2008, 20:24:07 pm ... the treuhaft 1302 ... Thanks, that's the one. 8) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jim Ratto on June 20, 2008, 20:37:05 pm I like tire combo on Rhoads' car in that recent post from fabian... 155 x 185?
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: j-f on June 20, 2008, 20:45:08 pm This car runs on 155-15 and 185-15. And it look just right!
I'm using 135 and 165-15 on 5.5" and 6" Fuchs. Tires don't look too stretched, but I'm thinking about change it for 155 and 185. Better handling and maybe look without have too big tires. I took the pic in a vw show few weeks ago. (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/548/818/20080504/dyn005_original_504_380_jpeg_2548818_b72bbc33c949c57d58f1ef0571762fbd.jpg) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: qubek on June 20, 2008, 22:48:51 pm More pics of this car:
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8929/p1010043br0.jpg) (http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4483/p1010044mf0.jpg) (http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9971/p1010046dc4.jpg) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Diederick/DVK on June 21, 2008, 12:58:21 pm what brand are those?
i'll be going for 155-15 and 185-15 once i've burned the rubber that's on my wheels now ;D Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: nicolas on June 21, 2008, 15:24:16 pm somehow by the look of those last 3 pics you know they are taken in Belgium, or at least very near to it !!!
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: qubek on June 22, 2008, 11:30:48 am somehow by the look of those last 3 pics you know they are taken in Belgium, or at least very near to it !!! Not really, it's around 900 km from Belgian border ;) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: nicolas on June 22, 2008, 20:51:33 pm somehow by the look of those last 3 pics you know they are taken in Belgium, or at least very near to it !!! Not really, it's around 900 km from Belgian border ;) :o really? if i drive 900 km from the belgian border i DEMAND nice weather! ;D ;D ;D even to Norway ;D Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: qubek on June 25, 2008, 08:04:16 am somehow by the look of those last 3 pics you know they are taken in Belgium, or at least very near to it !!! Not really, it's around 900 km from Belgian border ;) :o really? if i drive 900 km from the belgian border i DEMAND nice weather! ;D ;D ;D even to Norway ;D Does it work in the opposite direction? I'm about to drive 1300 km to Belgium and I'd prefer nice weather too. ;) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: GreenTom on June 25, 2008, 09:09:02 am talkin about tyres :)
145/65 R15 looks streched on 5,5" rim but it looks nice :) the worst thing of that combo is that it is too stiff/hard maybe only for Polish roads :P I have 155 R15 Veredesteins on 5,5 repo GBees on fornt it looks really nice (didn't expected that eaven) but conected with 195/65 R15 on the back on the size rim doesn't look nince. it looks lke the rear rubbr hav smaller profile (and it is few mm higher than 155/80). I think 195/70 R15 on the back wih 155 R15 would look nice of corse if you don't have 145 R15 :) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Neil Davies on June 25, 2008, 12:10:13 pm talkin about tyres :) 145/65 R15 looks streched on 5,5" rim but it looks nice :) the worst thing of that combo is that it is too stiff/hard maybe only for Polish roads :P I have 155 R15 Veredesteins on 5,5 repo GBees on fornt it looks really nice (didn't expected that eaven) but conected with 195/65 R15 on the back on the size rim doesn't look nince. it looks lke the rear rubbr hav smaller profile (and it is few mm higher than 155/80). I think 195/70 R15 on the back wih 155 R15 would look nice of corse if you don't have 145 R15 :) You've hit the nail on the head - a 155 on the front would need something of a reasonable size on the back to balance it out. On my '70 I'll be using 155 F560 Firestones on the front and the back will probably be a 195/70 or a 205/65 or 70. I use this website to work out tyre sizes: http://www.powerdog.com/tiresize.cgi - it's pretty good for general comparisons, but some tyres can look different to other makes. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: GreenTom on June 25, 2008, 14:56:12 pm :D as I remember 195/70 is higher on the side wall than 205/65. Just mesured lots of combos (virtually).
at the moment I have 155/80R15 F, 195/65R15 R because I had 145/65R15 F 195/65R15 before but I had to buy only front tyres ($$$). rear tyres 195/70R15 are comming soon :D the choice went on Bridgestone B330 195/70R15 97 T XL about year ago :p. Not too expensive but quite good tyres and popular in polisch shops Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: nicolas on June 25, 2008, 17:21:16 pm somehow by the look of those last 3 pics you know they are taken in Belgium, or at least very near to it !!! Not really, it's around 900 km from Belgian border ;) :o really? if i drive 900 km from the belgian border i DEMAND nice weather! ;D ;D ;D even to Norway ;D Does it work in the opposite direction? I'm about to drive 1300 km to Belgium and I'd prefer nice weather too. ;) no bring a bag full of nice weather!! Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: rebel on July 13, 2008, 21:43:35 pm Well, rear tyres are finally in my garage. Firestone F560 165SR15 :) I almost can smell them burn :)
Wheels are on the way. Still wonder what to put on the front. 145SR15 F560 would be best. But I cannot find them anywhere. I was thinkin about 165/65s and 155/70s. What do you think? Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Chris W on July 13, 2008, 22:59:32 pm 145 F560's here? http://store.coker.com/search.php?mode=search&by_title=Y&by_shortdescr=Y&by_fulldescr=Y&substring=145R15&__utma=1.744754635.1210872096.1215475051.1215986270.6&__utmb=1.2.10.1215986270&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1215986270.6.6.utmcsr=google|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=coker%20tire&__utmv=-&__utmk=127303309 (http://store.coker.com/search.php?mode=search&by_title=Y&by_shortdescr=Y&by_fulldescr=Y&substring=145R15&__utma=1.744754635.1210872096.1215475051.1215986270.6&__utmb=1.2.10.1215986270&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1215986270.6.6.utmcsr=google|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=coker%20tire&__utmv=-&__utmk=127303309) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: rebel on July 28, 2008, 19:46:10 pm Wheels are finally in place.
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6977/dsc01258el5.th.jpg) (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01258el5.jpg) (http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1193/dsc01254dd5.th.jpg) (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01254dd5.jpg) I know a cal-looker should have a single color paintjob - the grey colour is a primer coating I did myself after some metalwork repairs and dechroming job... :) Sorry for pictre quality due to a mobile phone camera... BTW: I've noticed, that the MWS Centerline replica are much lighter then theese 7inch cookie cutters I still have stashed under the stairs. :o I've always thought, that Porsche wheels should be light... BTW2: Anybody had problems with overheating brakes (stock drums) because of Centerline style wheels? The wheels have no 'windows' and I've noticed the heat from the brakes does not have any place to go. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: rebel on June 11, 2009, 19:16:32 pm The final wheel/tire combo is settled, I think.
Luckily, I've found a pair of TOYO 310 135x15 to match 165x15 Firestones in the back. The classic tire setup is finally reached :) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 07, 2009, 00:21:18 am Scored a set of 5½" & 4½" 356 wheels (chromies for you '70s/'80s people). Sand blasted all of the chrome off, painted them semi-gloss silver (very close to the factory Porsche/VW color), and got some new 145 SR15 tires up front and just used the Pirelli 195/65/15 tires that came on the rears. At first, I thought they were going to be too low of a profile. So far, I like 'em. When they wear out, I'll get something a little higher. But I'm digging on the wider tires all around. Used to have 165 SR15 & 135 SR15.
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/356Wheels0705093.jpg) (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/356Wheels0705092.jpg) (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/356Wheels070509.jpg) Been wanting to do this, like my '66 was, since I bought the car. Now I can take my time and get my BRM wheels looking perfect with no rush. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rick Meredith on July 07, 2009, 00:23:31 am Looks good Mark!
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Speed-Randy on July 07, 2009, 00:25:26 am what are you gonna do to your brm's mark?
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 07, 2009, 00:27:05 am But wait... there's MORE.
I've actually wanted to do this trick with nipple hubcaps and Wolfsburg porcelain crests since 1985. Finally got with the program and made it happen last week. Also put the bumpers back on the car. Really liking this. (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705092.jpg) (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705093.jpg) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Speed-Randy on July 07, 2009, 00:31:34 am almost gives it that salt flat racer look, looks good, not overbearing, "look at me" stuff, i think they call it, "subtle yet understated" :)
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 07, 2009, 00:37:30 am Thanks, DEEKS.
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705096.jpg) To answer your question, Randy, I'm going to get 145 SR15 tires for the fronts of the BRM wheels. Before that, I'll be doing more sand blasting to them. I've done 'em twice but I'm still not happy with how they look on the natural portions. This last time, for the Classic, I was stoked how the black inset portions turned out. Finally achieved the flat black sheen I was looking for. That, and I'm just simply burnt out on seeing 'em on my car. I've wanted a '67 with BRMs since high school... but it's time to move on and start a quiver of wheels for my car. I'll be on the hunt for other budget wheels for the future. Anything that's different, of course. ;D (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705097.jpg) almost gives it that salt flat racer look, looks good, not overbearing, "look at me" stuff, i think they call it, "subtle yet understated" :) Bingo! You nailed it right on, Randy. Funny that you mentioned that... Ben Salazar and I were talking, last night at Nick's, about overly polished/chromed wheels on Cal Lookers. He told me a great story about one of his friends. The guy put fully polished (or chromed) EMPI five spokes on his Looker in the old days. His Grandmother came out to see it. She said, "Don't like it. Looks like it's going to the prom." Later, the guy scored a set of BRMs. Next time she went out to see the car, "Much better. I like this... it looks mean, now." One of the best car stories I've heard in years! HUGE thanks out to Brent Kooiman and Dave Rosique for providing me with a set of exact wheels that I wanted. You guys both rock and I'm proud to call you cats my close friends for almost three decades. (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705098.jpg) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: GreenTom on July 07, 2009, 09:37:58 am Tyre combo is a problem as always :)
I have two options in my garage waiting for my baby burners. option 1: front 155/80 R15 Veredestein sprint classic and rear 185/80 R15 Veredestein Sprint Classic option 2: front Coloway remoulded, newer used but in not so good shape 145/80 R15 and rear as abowe 185/80 R15 Veredesteins... all tyres are stacked in my garage and I can't make my mind... I really pedantick so probobly Veredesteins will go all over... rims are 5,5 genuine MAHLE baby burners. what do You recon? Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: wolfswest on July 07, 2009, 10:20:54 am Fred,
I love it, looks nice! It looks meaner with the T bars but you can change all the time, so no problem here. How does the 145's change the driving pleasure? In a good way I suppose but is it worth the trouble? You went from 135's to 145's I'm planning on going from 135's to 155/70. I want to have FUN with my car, not shit in my pants if I see a corner comming... Dem Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: javabug on July 07, 2009, 12:43:20 pm Nice work, Mark. I am gonna say I prefer the t-bars/no caps style, but the non-chrome caps are a neat look. Probably seeing them in person would be even better. How about the t-bars painted in the same silver as the wheels?
I once read somewhere that it's your car so do what makes you happy. 8) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Nico86 on July 07, 2009, 18:43:11 pm Lookin' good Mark !
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 08, 2009, 00:10:04 am Thank you, everyone. The car handles & stops way better now. To me, it was worth it.
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Bryan67 on July 08, 2009, 06:02:12 am Well i may not be very popular with this but I think it looked WAY better with the black and polished BRM`s, polished T bars and before you painted everything blue. Different is not always good.
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Zach Gomulka on July 08, 2009, 06:36:04 am That blue car is AWESOME!!
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: stealth67vw on July 08, 2009, 07:08:49 am Scored a set of 5½" & 4½ 356 wheels (chromies for you '70s/'80s people). Sand blasted all of the chrome off, painted them semi-gloss silver (very close to the factory Porsche/VW color), and got some new 145 SR15 tires up front and just used the Pirelli 195/65/15 tires that came on the rears. At first, I thought they were going to be too low of a profile. So far, I like 'em. When they wear out, I'll get something a little higher. But I'm digging on the wider tires all around. Used to have 165 SR15 & 135 SR15. Man, I'm McLovin this look. Very stealthy. I do prefer it sans hub caps.(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/356Wheels0705093.jpg) (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/356Wheels0705092.jpg) (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/356Wheels070509.jpg) Been wanting to do this, like my '66 was, since I bought the car. Now I can take my time and get my BRM wheels looking perfect with no rush. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: DKK Ted on July 08, 2009, 08:29:14 am Nice mark, have you thought about using short axles out back? Also the T-Bars are cool, but maybe 1" shorter all around. Just a thought. Either way, the car looks very cool when I saw it at Nicks. I like your idea about the steel Porsche wheels, I'm kickiing it around.
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: vwcab on July 08, 2009, 10:14:21 am I like the new look Mark,very different.
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: speedwell on July 08, 2009, 20:53:49 pm :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jim Ratto on July 08, 2009, 20:59:21 pm Hi Mark. I have to say I really REALLY like the new look(s), but my preference is the no hubcap look (though the car looks fantastic with the hubcaps too). I've been waiting for more cars to run the old "chromie" wheels (there I go making myself feel old again) which seem to have been forgotten about in the last 10-15 years. I LOVE the rear tires now on your '67, they fill the fenders perfectly. I myself run 195/65's on my '67, though on short axles (with fake BRMs it looks odd with bigger tires and long axles to me).
Now how about with bumpers (since you have the correct '67 stuff....flaunt it) but sans hubcaps? Try that. Get back to us. ;D Looking good buddy. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 09, 2009, 01:36:13 am Tyre combo is a problem as always :) I have two options in my garage waiting for my baby burners. option 1: front 155/80 R15 Veredestein sprint classic and rear 185/80 R15 Veredestein Sprint Classic option 2: front Coloway remoulded, newer used but in not so good shape 145/80 R15 and rear as abowe 185/80 R15 Veredesteins... all tyres are stacked in my garage and I can't make my mind... I really pedantick so probobly Veredesteins will go all over... rims are 5,5 genuine MAHLE baby burners. what do You recon? Tom, that's a tough call without seeing the tire combos on the car. I was considering going to something really different up front in the way of tire size. But what happens, sometimes, is that the tire heights/profiles don't look right together. Just be careful when choosing the profiles... otherwise, the front may look too tall compared to the back. Sorry if that doesn't make much sense. At the end of the day... it's your car, so do what you think is best. I'm guessing that the 145/80 would be the lower overall height out of the two front sizes that you've posted. Although it would be really cool to have the wider 155 contact patch on the road. When John Rayburn went to a 155, I really liked it. But since I ended up with 4½" wheels up front, I opted for the 145 because I didn't want my sidewalls bubbling out. VERY cool that you have real Mahle wheels! Can't wait to see them. Please post up the pics when you get 'em on your car, Tom. Thanks for all of the posts, everyone. Honesty... I really thought that no one would like it when I went to Nick's that night. I was very surprised to find out otherwise. Ted, I've already owned cars with short axles and I really don't have any desire to ever go back. As for the t-bars, I agree with you about shortening them. But I'm not going to because of how far my exhaust tips stick out past the rear apron. If I had a muffler like everyone else... yes. Jim, I'm going to keep the 65 profile on the backs. Didn't think they'd be high enough for me. But when I got 'em on the car and looked at it from different angles, I was okay with it. And yes... the cool thing about these cars is that I can, on any day, remove the hubcaps and leave it that way with the bumpers like your suggestion. I'm just stoked to have another set of 356 wheels. Even though this is my first non-Porsche factory set... I really dig 'em. Well i may not be very popular with this but I think it looked WAY better with the black and polished BRM`s, polished T bars and before you painted everything blue. Different is not always good. Bryan, I fully respect your opinion because we all have one. Thanks. But, I've never seen a Zenith Blue Cal Looker with any of that stuff painted then or now. My t-bars were black when I got them. So I sand blasted & painted 'em. Haven't had polished t-bars since I took 'em off of my '66 in 1980 or '81. (can't remember; I'm old) And I wanted my BRMs to look different than the rest. I couldn't look at my car another day like that. Hence the changes. So in my world... different is good. Especially if someone else thinks otherwise. When I hear/read that... I know that I'm on the right track. At any rate, now that the outside is done, time to move onto upgrading the brakes, engine & transmission. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Dave Rosique on July 09, 2009, 05:01:40 am Looks really good Mark. I like the silver wheels... takes me back to my 356 days. I've always liked the 356 wheel painted, but the painted hubcap is a nice twist... sort of an RS / standard Beetle mix. I'm with Jim... full bumpers / no hubcaps... just for kicks ;D ~Dave Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 09, 2009, 06:09:15 am Looks really good Mark. I like the silver wheels... takes me back to my 356 days. I've always liked the 356 wheel painted, but the painted hubcap is a nice twist... sort of an RS / standard Beetle mix. I'm with Jim... full bumpers / no hubcaps... just for kicks ;D ~Dave Thanks, Dave. You're half of the reason this came to fruition. And just for you and Jim... I'll remove the caps for the next get together. ;D Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: The Ideaman on July 11, 2009, 02:32:25 am My firesuit is on but, I like the painted wheels. The painted nipples look like total ass to me. Really cheapens them, IMHO. Nice try, but off the mark.
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on July 11, 2009, 04:28:13 am Sorry Mark But I Agree With Luke it looks like you got one to many cans of MEXI Chrome I like the Wheels without caps on a 67 I have always thought 67's looked like shit with Porsche caps I think its the stand up headlights its like putting porsche caps on a Late Model (Funky) my Vote would be T Bar's and a Single Quite Pack Muffler and no caps you are mixing to many Styles together or Full Bumpers and Keep Your Pee Shooter Exhaust ;D just my 2 cents
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 11, 2009, 04:48:10 am Whew! I was starting to worry that everyone liked my car. I'm actually glad that a few of ya don't. Means that I'm on the right track. Luke, in pictures, I suppose that you're right about the silver looking too bright/chrome-like. But that's largely due to my flash, I'm sure. I used the same shade of silver paint that the Porsche factory did. The reason I opted to paint the caps is simple. I hate shiny wheels and prefer 'em dulled down. To me, shiny wheels cheapens the character of the wheel. But... to each their own, yes?
;D Gary, I've had more S&S, Phoenix, and FourTuned exhaust systems than most people. I'm so over the single muffler thing. Which is why I'm doing this car the exact way I've been wanting to do one since 1985. Far from a pea-shooter exhaust... but it's all good. Carry on. Let's see some other wheel/tire combos. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Bryan67 on July 11, 2009, 04:52:32 am Maybe with either short axles or 4.5 wheels on the rear and chrome hucaps (Porsche emblems would be better) and change the blue parts back to chrome......
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: danny gabbard on July 11, 2009, 04:56:46 am HEY MARK, how about some true spokes painted silver? It would be different!
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 11, 2009, 05:11:44 am Maybe with either short axles or 4.5 wheels on the rear and chrome hucaps (Porsche emblems would be better) and change the blue parts back to chrome...... Yuck! Everyone does the Porsche crests. And last I checked... it's MY name on the registration. ;D But thanks for playing... please drive through. Jim, tell him what he's won. Next? HEY MARK, how about some true spokes painted silver? It would be different! So would a louvered driver's side door. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jason Foster on July 11, 2009, 05:23:43 am So would a louvered driver's side door.
HA HA Mark you kill me bud TGFYM. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Bryan67 on July 11, 2009, 05:41:15 am 4 and 5" Centerlines, short axles, T III drums, 2" beam cb Brakes w/drop spindles and 145 Nankangs and 205/70 Coopers.
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/532344.jpg) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: 2manytoys on July 11, 2009, 06:34:34 am Thanks, DEEKS. (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705096.jpg) To answer your question, Randy, I'm going to get 145 SR15 tires for the fronts of the BRM wheels. Before that, I'll be doing more sand blasting to them. I've done 'em twice but I'm still not happy with how they look on the natural portions. This last time, for the Classic, I was stoked how the black inset portions turned out. Finally achieved the flat black sheen I was looking for. That, and I'm just simply burnt out on seeing 'em on my car. I've wanted a '67 with BRMs since high school... but it's time to move on and start a quiver of wheels for my car. I'll be on the hunt for other budget wheels for the future. Anything that's different, of course. ;D (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705097.jpg) almost gives it that salt flat racer look, looks good, not overbearing, "look at me" stuff, i think they call it, "subtle yet understated" :) Bingo! You nailed it right on, Randy. Funny that you mentioned that... Ben Salazar and I were talking, last night at Nick's, about overly polished/chromed wheels on Cal Lookers. He told me a great story about one of his friends. The guy put fully polished (or chromed) EMPI five spokes on his Looker in the old days. His Grandmother came out to see it. She said, "Don't like it. Looks like it's going to the prom." Later, the guy scored a set of BRMs. Next time she went out to see the car, "Much better. I like this... it looks mean, now." One of the best car stories I've heard in years! HUGE thanks out to Brent Kooiman and Dave Rosique for providing me with a set of exact wheels that I wanted. You guys both rock and I'm proud to call you cats my close friends for almost three decades. (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705098.jpg) Nice. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jason Foster on July 11, 2009, 06:52:15 am Hey Mark,
Loving the wheels and hate to use this word "but"..... Gotta say looking at the above color front shot I gotta say the car is screamin for the T-bars in the same treatment as the wheels... the simplicity of the wheels is clashing with the chrome of the bumpers, don't get me wrong the car is looking Boss the way it is. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jason Foster on July 11, 2009, 06:58:58 am Hold the phone... just looked back a bit and saw the shots with the T-bars and no caps!!! Awesome.
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Dave Rosique on July 11, 2009, 08:04:55 am Hold the phone... just looked back a bit and saw the shots with the T-bars and no caps!!! Awesome. So far, that's how I like it best. ~Dave Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rick Meredith on July 13, 2009, 17:38:33 pm Hold the phone... just looked back a bit and saw the shots with the T-bars and no caps!!! Awesome. So far, that's how I like it best. ~Dave Add me to the "T-Bars & no caps" list ;) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jim Ratto on July 13, 2009, 18:17:47 pm Hold the phone... just looked back a bit and saw the shots with the T-bars and no caps!!! Awesome. So far, that's how I like it best. ~Dave me too but that will probably make Mark paint his car blood orange red and put Volvo bumpers on it, along with slot mags from a '74 Mustang II Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Bryan67 on July 13, 2009, 18:21:17 pm Or you could just paint the bumpers......... How about some other combos on some other cars?
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jason Foster on July 13, 2009, 18:28:13 pm Hold the phone... just looked back a bit and saw the shots with the T-bars and no caps!!! Awesome. So far, that's how I like it best. ~Dave me too but that will probably make Mark paint his car blood orange red and put Volvo bumpers on it, along with slot mags from a '74 Mustang II Touche' Jim and plus one for the win...as it were. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jim Ratto on July 13, 2009, 22:57:31 pm Mark in my opinion the frosted 911 alloys, 4-1/2" width in front and 7" rear but you would have to change to '66 length axle. I can see you as an Alloy guy, maybe with CN36's on the rear?
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 14, 2009, 00:05:01 am Or you could just paint the bumpers......... How about some other combos on some other cars? You paint your early bumpers first, then we'll go from there. Dig? Mark in my opinion the frosted 911 alloys, 4-1/2" width in front and 7" rear but you would have to change to '66 length axle. I can see you as an Alloy guy, maybe with CN36's on the rear? That would look pretty cool, Jim. But I'm over the 4½" alloys. If I'm ever lucky enough to come across a set of those wheels, I'd like to have some 5½" up front and either late sixes or do like you suggested and go with 7" on the back with the early axles. But I highly doubt the latter would happen. In addition, I'd have to step up my engine, big time, if I ran such a wide wheel. Wouldn't make sense, otherwise. Since my budget won't allow me to enjoy alloys, I'm not too worried about it. At any rate, I'm very happy with the car as it sits. It's obviously affecting the targeted people, so mission accomplished. ;D Next? Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jim Ratto on July 14, 2009, 00:20:18 am ::)
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 14, 2009, 00:23:40 am B-GAWK! Yep... that's me. Are you gonna put wheels on that thing and Cal Look it? Or eat it?
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jim Ratto on July 14, 2009, 00:26:18 am that's kinda personal.
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 14, 2009, 02:04:01 am that's kinda personal. Word up, Home Skillet. Don't choke it. ;D If I had a late Standard, I'd put these wheels on it. Paint 'em silver and forget about 'em. 4½" VW ones on the fronts and the 5½" Porsche ones on the backs. Simple and easy to maintain. (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/548/818/20080504/dyn005_original_504_380_jpeg_2548818_b72bbc33c949c57d58f1ef0571762fbd.jpg) And I'd use the VW center caps just to piss people off. HAHAHA!!! Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Dave Rosique on July 14, 2009, 03:12:35 am If I had a late Standard, I'd put these wheels on it. Paint 'em silver and forget about 'em. 4½" VW ones on the fronts and the 5½" Porsche ones on the backs. Simple and easy to maintain. (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/548/818/20080504/dyn005_original_504_380_jpeg_2548818_b72bbc33c949c57d58f1ef0571762fbd.jpg) And I'd use the VW center caps just to piss people off. HAHAHA!!![/b] [/quote] EXACTLY the combo I had on my red '70 back in 1980... right down to the VW centers. ~DR. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 14, 2009, 03:16:10 am EXACTLY the combo I had on my red '70 back in 1980... right down to the VW centers. You, my friend, have good taste. (read: simple/functional = less is more) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Speed-Randy on July 14, 2009, 03:16:59 am hey mark, if yer lookin to piss people off, put some mini truck menudo bowls on it and roll into nicks, take the front parking spot. then simply bask in the glow, or duck the beer bottles ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Dave Rosique on July 14, 2009, 03:21:00 am hey mark, if yer lookin to piss people off, put some mini truck menudo bowls on it and roll into nicks, take the front parking spot. then simply bask in the glow, or duck the beer bottles ;D ;D ;D Menudo bowls?? ;D ;D ~DR. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 14, 2009, 03:22:37 am hey mark, if yer lookin to piss people off, put some mini truck menudo bowls on it and roll into nicks, take the front parking spot. then simply bask in the glow, or duck the beer bottles ;D ;D ;D Wow. Where to begin... Randy, I honestly have nary a clue as to what you posted. Not trying to be a smart ass... just always thought that walking or public transportation was/is a much better idea than mini-trucks. The only menudo I know of is the one wretched Mexican food I can't stand. (edit) Wait... will the bier bottles be full? I just might be into this. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: danny gabbard on July 14, 2009, 04:05:45 am Thanks, DEEKS. (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705096.jpg) To answer your question, Randy, I'm going to get 145 SR15 tires for the fronts of the BRM wheels. Before that, I'll be doing more sand blasting to them. I've done 'em twice but I'm still not happy with how they look on the natural portions. This last time, for the Classic, I was stoked how the black inset portions turned out. Finally achieved the flat black sheen I was looking for. That, and I'm just simply burnt out on seeing 'em on my car. I've wanted a '67 with BRMs since high school... but it's time to move on and start a quiver of wheels for my car. I'll be on the hunt for other budget wheels for the future. Anything that's different, of course. REALLY? (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705097.jpg) almost gives it that salt flat racer look, looks good, not overbearing, "look at me" stuff, i think they call it, "subtle yet understated" :) Bingo! You nailed it right on, Randy. Funny that you mentioned that... Ben Salazar and I were talking, last night at Nick's, about overly polished/chromed wheels on Cal Lookers. He told me a great story about one of his friends. The guy put fully polished (or chromed) EMPI five spokes on his Looker in the old days. His Grandmother came out to see it. She said, "Don't like it. Looks like it's going to the prom." Later, the guy scored a set of BRMs. Next time she went out to see the car, "Much better. I like this... it looks mean, now." One of the best car stories I've heard in years! HUGE thanks out to Brent Kooiman and Dave Rosique for providing me with a set of exact wheels that I wanted. You guys both rock and I'm proud to call you cats my close friends for almost three decades. (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/0705098.jpg) Nice. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Speed-Randy on July 14, 2009, 05:23:14 am i'm refering to the lowered minitrucks with 10-12 wheels, all offset is to the outside, wrapped in rubberbands
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Rennsurfer on July 14, 2009, 06:08:13 am i'm refering to the lowered minitrucks with 10-12 wheels, all offset is to the outside, wrapped in rubberbands HAHA!! I remember when every Japanese car was into that throughout the '90s and well past 2000. Poor wheel bearings. Just never heard of the menudo bowl reference. Good stuff. Surprised that not many people have opted for body color coded 356 wheels on their Cal Lookers. (http://www.freewebs.com/ecarcrazy/P1.jpg) Porsche owners have been doing it for decades. I'd go for it if my car were darker. Doesn't work well with lighter colors. Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Neil Davies on July 14, 2009, 08:25:00 am Surprised that not many people have opted for body color coded 356 wheels on their Cal Lookers. Porsche owners have been doing it for decades. I'd go for it if my car were darker. Doesn't work well with lighter colors. It's not painting the wheel car colour, it's painting the car wheel colour... ;) I like the no-caps, no bumper look (almost pre-Cal Look but brought up to date with the colour coding, which I love), but the silver caps might look good against a darker wheel. :) Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: bilboa2 on July 16, 2009, 19:48:15 pm since EVERYONE get's an opinion on somebody elses car... I agree with shubee, no hubcaps, stock bumpers, single exhaust, kinda all the same period look...car color works well with the silver rims..bill
Title: Re: wheel/tire combo... Post by: Jim Ratto on July 16, 2009, 20:05:52 pm since EVERYONE get's an opinion on somebody elses car... I agree with shubee, no hubcaps, stock bumpers, single exhaust, kinda all the same period look...car color works well with the silver rims..bill Bill I like the combo on your car ALOT... the grey offset on the B.R.M. spokes and the 155s up front look great. |