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Try and build the hottest hot-rod motor you can, using only factory internals...  Webers and headers are ok... post your ideas.

leading up to another post idea....

see ya,
Jim

Thanks Mark... kind of a Formula Vee way of thinking, but 1600cc instead of 1200cc, able to use stock valved dual port heads (but go ahead and reshape ports, plunge-cut...etc...), actually what about those Brazilian 88mm p/c (Puma?) and the OE VW 1.25 ratio rocker arms....   ;)

if it came stock on a VW product, it's fair game.

 Oxyboxer 2.1L with aircooled parts... Heavily modified VW heads... 181 Fan shroud... Solex 40PII carbs...


 Soo Bugatti engines are allowed too...  ;D

 ::)

Type IV  ;D

for a start, wasserboxer crankshaft in a type 1 case ;D

I was going to say that! 76mm crank?

Is it counterweighted?

that's a neat idea, but let's say you have to keep it 1584cc....

69mm stroke by Sp2 88mm bore
stock valved d/p or 041 VW heads
stock VW cam (but can use 36hp gear for less drag)
VW 1.25 ratio rockers
you can grind, port, lighten, flycut....   

 :)

Swiss cheese the rods :) Still aren't going to get much out of it though :P

This little manx is running a STOCK uncounterweighted crank(4 dowel), STOCK rods, STOCK Cam, Ali push rods, STOCK sized valves - ok its 1776cc but apart from that its a STOCK bottom end  :)

Now THATS a wheelie!

And my race car (which those front wheels came from!) ran a 1584cc motor with stock crank (just added 4 extra dowels!), rods, pistons, barrels, valves and springs, oil system and I think stock cam as well. Added carbs and a header and ran 15.75 best! As far as i know, the case halves had nevre been split and it was as built in the factory! ;)

i think the key in building this kind off engine is getting all the specs and tolerances just right. attention to detail and finish will be important. i know when i rebuild the 1641 engine it was way better then before, by just taking care off the cooling (improving it and close it all like it should be) and have a less restricted oilcircuit with less bents in the fittings and lines. it ran at 70°C - 80°C and that improved power a lot over the hotter running engine before that.

76mm wasser crank with P/Cs from a 1700 type 4 (90mm bore - can be modified for type 1 stud pattern) equals 1933cc
wasserboxer cam and 1.25s, stock dualports ported/polished, 36/40 solexes from a type 4 or porsche 914 on type 3 manifolds :P
stock exhaust opened and the tubes modified to let them flow more (like porsche salzburg rallye bugs)
228mm clutch from a wasserboxer, TSZH ignition....
wait... i got most of these parts in the garage ???

well at the moment there is a 82x101.6 engine on the bench ;D
i wanted to build this engine for my 61 panel. what i still need is a 1mm linebored case, so i can fit the waterboxer crank
the panel needs a ground up resto first :P

how light was your car neil? when i saw your old racecar in total vw (i think) i loved it.one of my most thumbed issues at the time! i also had a club magazine with your car featured in it.i think it was called aircoolzine  ???

Had it weighed once with the old cage, before the chro-moly one went in. It was 1639lbs (743kg) with me in it, and at the time i would have been about 17stone, so roughly 1400lbs (635kg) without me! I loved it too - pity the new owner didn't. It was scrapped 8 weeks after I sold it. ::)

Aircooler 'Zine was the brainchild of Ben Bosworth, our late club president. He did one full size issue and several smaller ones, always a superb read! ;D

An old engine as it looked in 1949.
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/31969.jpg)

:o

explain.....    PLEASE

I see OHC's

what are exit ducts coming out from under "cylinders" (?)

it looks like a early porsche engine  ::) , maybe it's  to evacuate blowing air  by the fan after being last on the cylinders  ::) ::)

it was one of the smaller issues i had.ben bosworth i didnt know him but a great loss to the vw scene.who had your old car then? or is it to painful to talk about :'(

Long story, and completely off topic, I've just spent 15 minutes writing it out but it's not worth going into too much detail.

End of the day, I sold the car to someone who was going to race it, they chopped it up. I expected it - his previous car was a german looker based on a late '90s Mexican, that got chopped up. Before that he had a '62, as a stocker restored by Julian Hammond (now works at BFY Obsolete I think) it was shown at Stanford Hall and I believe it even won a few shows. That car is now a beach buggy because he cut the shell up as he was driving it! Last I heard he'd got a new Beetle with an Audi TT motor that had mysteriously gone missing. He's a f*cking moron and I hope he drops out of the VW scene before he chops up anything else.

why do people do that! why cant they chop something up thats f@ckin scrap instead

 Type 4 valves and make the type 4 1.3 rockers work on the type one head?

the type 4 or wasserboxer valves are longer than stock type 1, so i think you will have problems with the pushrods (remember, only vw parts ;D)
there must be some way to use the type4 rockers, but i think they are longer than a type1 rocker (i mean the spacing of the axis of the valve to the pushrodtube is greater), maybe the pushrods will rub the tubes ???
biggest problem i see is the exhaust, because the modified stock muffler is loud as hell :P

now this is really getting interesting  ;) :)

What, the new title? I think Jim is suffering from sleep deprivation thanks to Junior... ;)