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Title: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 23, 2008, 22:17:53 pm
anybody ever researched this ??
wtf !!!
i did over weekend ....  scary stuff  :o

i dont believe a car can be "jinxed" , but that is more than coincidence !!!


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Rick Meredith on June 23, 2008, 22:20:41 pm
Yes... very spooky stuff.


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 23, 2008, 22:25:16 pm
i'm gonna get LITTLE BASTARD painted on the back of my oval .....  kinda having second thoughts now !!


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 23, 2008, 22:36:32 pm
I'm kind of into that car, etc.

I've driven out to the spot where the accident occured in '55, looking for nuts and bolts, etc.... well, this was 1990 or so... no luck.
There was a cool documentary about the day it happnened, watched it on VHS about 15yr ago....I forget title now.

Showed some cool photography of the car, the roads driven and the accident.

I believe Dean's route was GS Freeway north, over Ridge Route, up 99 past Bakersfield and then west on 466 (now known as 46), colliding with Ford at intersection of 41 and 466. Bad deal.


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 23, 2008, 22:42:05 pm
jim ,
was the japanese guys tribute there when you went ??

i'm gonna make my way over there one day ....


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 23, 2008, 22:50:14 pm
jim ,
was the japanese guys tribute there when you went ??

i'm gonna make my way over there one day ....

no there was nobody there except for me and Sheep. It's pretty remote out there. I hear it was a Japanese fan that built the shrine and so on around the tree.

We stopped @ Balckwell's Corner (north of McKittrick on 33, @ crossroads of 33 and 46) for sodas on our way home from Famoso VW show...there was some sign that said "Place of James Dean's Last Stop". Kind of eeire.

Here's a pic I got off of Google of the area of the crash


Interestingly, about 15 miles from here is the shakiest place in CA, as far as earthquakes go (Parkfield, CA), where geologists can "predict" 6.0 or greater scale earthquakes with uncanny accuracy.


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 23, 2008, 23:06:52 pm

We stopped @ Balckwell's Corner (north of McKittrick on 33, @ crossroads of 33 and 46) for sodas on our way home from Famoso VW show...there was some sign that said "Place of James Dean's Last Stop". Kind of eeire.


iirr , he met up with other racers there whilst he was waiting for his buddies in the truck .... they had all had speeding tickets on the way there ?

did you know he was involved with the witches in l.a ???

never really publicised as it would have been bad for the public image


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 23, 2008, 23:17:56 pm

We stopped @ Balckwell's Corner (north of McKittrick on 33, @ crossroads of 33 and 46) for sodas on our way home from Famoso VW show...there was some sign that said "Place of James Dean's Last Stop". Kind of eeire.


iirr , he met up with other racers there whilst he was waiting for his buddies in the truck .... they had all had speeding tickets on the way there ?

did you know he was involved with the witches in l.a ???

never really publicised as it would have been bad for the public image

no I never heard that. I am more interested in the car than JD anyway  ;D

Time to go watch "GIANT"


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 23, 2008, 23:33:09 pm
the witches are one theory to why it all happened ....................

yes , google is my friend :D

i had it in my head the car was called "lil bastard" but wanted to make sure so i did a google , i knew a nice car got wrecked , and i thought a guy died in the rebuilt car in germany .......  guess  the only thing i got right was that a nice car got wrecked !!

certainly was an eye opener though .
i suggest anybody that is into cars , especially aircooled vw's and porsches read up on it .  its an amazing story !!!


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Sam K on June 24, 2008, 02:16:49 am
I bet that somwhere somebody has that car (or what's left of it) tucked away in their garage.


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 24, 2008, 04:52:13 am
its allegedly in england .

the are a couple of interesting privatel collectors , one in ca , one in uk .
there collections contain cars that celebrities where killed in .

thats off the net , but come to think of it , i do remember hearing something about dodi alfayed's mercedez ...


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Lee.C on June 24, 2008, 09:41:53 am
i'm gonna get LITTLE BASTARD painted on the back of my oval .....  kinda having second thoughts now !!

I call my Manx "Lil Bitch" kind of a play on the old 550 name, plus she causes me nothing but heart ache  ;) :)


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: black_bullitt on June 24, 2008, 12:51:36 pm
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t209/black_bullitt76/Ticket1.jpg)

This is a copy( allegedly ) of the speeding ticket issued to him just before the crash, copped at 65 in a 55 zone.




Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Zach Gomulka on June 24, 2008, 17:04:10 pm
The transaxle was on ebay maybe 5 years ago, starting bid was $25 grand I believe :o


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Soddli on June 24, 2008, 20:45:55 pm
Yeahhh......great topic.

Very scary surroundings of this car....spoooooky! :o

Rumors of a good source of mine also indicated that it may be in England....
A lot of amazing cars hiding at collectors....as a "secret" 917-30 i know of in Scandinavia ;D


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Black Sheep on June 24, 2008, 20:48:46 pm
The transaxle was on ebay maybe 5 years ago, starting bid was $25 grand I believe :o
Didn't that get used in another race car ,and first time out the guy had a bad accident or got killed too  :o :o.
other parts re used from the car fared little better also I believe


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: stealth67vw on June 25, 2008, 03:36:10 am
The car was parted out from all the documentaries I have seen and bad luck followed all the parts.


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Lee.C on June 25, 2008, 04:44:57 am
I have heard this about "bad luck" following these parts after they were parted out BUT if these parts were fitted to other "Race Cars" then Surely they are bound to crash/break at sometime - and let face it H&S (health and safty) was exactly BIG back in the day  :D :)

Just my 2 cents guys  :)


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Black Sheep on June 25, 2008, 17:27:46 pm
BUT if these parts were fitted to other "Race Cars" then Surely they are bound to crash/break at sometime

Dont i know it  ::) never accept hand me downs  ;D


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 25, 2008, 21:59:17 pm
I have heard this about "bad luck" following these parts after they were parted out BUT if these parts were fitted to other "Race Cars" then Surely they are bound to crash/break at sometime - and let face it H&S (health and safty) was exactly BIG back in the day  :D :)

Just my 2 cents guys  :)

ITS MORE THAN THAT ...   READ IT .


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 25, 2008, 22:30:42 pm
anybody ever researched this ??
wtf !!!
i did over weekend ....  scary stuff  :o

i dont believe a car can be "jinxed" , but that is more than coincidence !!!

ian c...  if you ever get to The Spot, you may notice, it certainly does have a spooky feel to it.
Not something you can put your finger on.



Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Lee.C on June 25, 2008, 23:38:49 pm
I have heard this about "bad luck" following these parts after they were parted out BUT if these parts were fitted to other "Race Cars" then Surely they are bound to crash/break at sometime - and let face it H&S (health and safty) was exactly BIG back in the day  :D :)

Just my 2 cents guys  :)

ITS MORE THAN THAT ...   READ IT .

 ??? ??? ??? more than what dude  ??? ??? ??? its just a point of view, I have known all about this "Legend" for ages - if this car was owned by "Joe Public" would there even be such a story ???

Don't get me wrong dude James Dean is a LEGEND and the 550 is one of my all time favourite cars - its just my 2 cents :)


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 26, 2008, 00:33:57 am
didnt mean no offence , but 1 person died and another came VERY close using parts from the car  . this happened the first outing after they where fitted .

(according to what now must be deemed "legend" )

:)


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Lee.C on June 26, 2008, 00:37:58 am
its all cool, but what about the part where it appently fell off a transporter and seriosly injured someone  :o maybe there is more to this ;) :)


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 26, 2008, 00:40:14 am
IT "FELL OFF" MORE THAN ONCE .....  A FATALITY IN ONE OF THE INCIDENTS (DRIVER THROWN OUT OF CAB DURING ACCIDENT)


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Tony M on June 26, 2008, 21:43:54 pm
been down that road - yes kind of spooky at night there - my dad was racing at the same time - speedster carrera 4 cam'r - said he dident drive all that well - too much car. he was going over the same road a little later and came up on the crash - he slowed to see what it was and did not stop - like most racers - they have some strange ways of dealing with death. those days you drove your car to and from the races. worked in indiana for a time in fairmont - home of james dean - the shop we were working in was right across the street from his house - same name still on the mail box - big open garage in rear with no doors - cars still sitting ithere with about 20in of dust on them - an old merc, and i think a old ford.


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Mike Lawless on June 27, 2008, 19:24:20 pm
We drive by that spot pretty often as it's on our way to the coastal town of Morro Bay. We go there once or twice a year. We'll be going by there again next week (July 3). I'll try to remember to stop by, pay my respects and snap a photo of the memorial that was erected there. There's a bunch of cheesy memorabilia in the store that's there too.


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 27, 2008, 19:48:32 pm
been down that road - yes kind of spooky at night there - my dad was racing at the same time - speedster carrera 4 cam'r - said he dident drive all that well - too much car. he was going over the same road a little later and came up on the crash - he slowed to see what it was and did not stop - like most racers - they have some strange ways of dealing with death. those days you drove your car to and from the races. worked in indiana for a time in fairmont - home of james dean - the shop we were working in was right across the street from his house - same name still on the mail box - big open garage in rear with no doors - cars still sitting ithere with about 20in of dust on them - an old merc, and i think a old ford.

am I reading this right? Your dad raced a 4 cam car too? WTF dude, you never told me that...and I am like a son to you... you scarred me Tony.  :'(


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 27, 2008, 20:03:12 pm
Tony, you better drop what you're doing and start telling us some stories about your father's cars....  OMG

you might find this interesting: http://www.356registry.org/Articles/Christophorus/index.html



Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 27, 2008, 20:05:58 pm
and some stories about your dad hanging out @ Grace Slick's pad...   


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Rennsurfer on June 27, 2008, 23:14:04 pm
Yeah, I was pretty stoked when I read that part about the four cam. Those are badassed cars!


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 28, 2008, 00:21:57 am
wish it was mine .............

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x216/iancross182/4camengine.jpg)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x216/iancross182/357915.jpg)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x216/iancross182/357914.jpg)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x216/iancross182/4camfront.jpg)


first pic is a scale model , the rest are genuine .  theres a guy on thesamba engine forum building a replica ..... :)


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Rick Meredith on June 28, 2008, 01:53:45 am
That's just SICK!   :)


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: Rennsurfer on June 28, 2008, 02:03:02 am
A four cam in a Beetle? DAAANG! You DO realize what those are worth these days, yes? Someone's got a lotta money. I'd ditch the heat retaining shiney fan shroud for a more functional and happening black one, like the model.


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on June 28, 2008, 15:36:44 pm
bottom pic with black shroud is a later 4 cam


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: . on September 03, 2008, 22:42:16 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360085285045&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: ian c on September 05, 2008, 03:55:54 am
what would you do with that ??

an odd thing to keep !!! :o


Title: Re: james deans 550 .....
Post by: R/TLook on September 05, 2008, 15:30:17 pm
About  J Deans car and the parts that has got a "spell" on them, Ok he died in this car, and there were some bad stuff with the remains off the car, but hey what kind of car was it?
I mean it wasīnt a standard 25 hp beetle he was driving on his way to the grocery on a sunny day and I donīt think the salvaged parts were put into daily drivers either....
Donīt roll the dice...