The Cal-look Lounge

Just a quick post with regardes to the vents on a 67 cab declid are they the same size as those found on a 70's one and in the same possition as that of a 66 as i intend to cut some into my lid but obviously dont want them to look out of place. Many thank Alex

I believe they have the same size and position.
Could somebody (Fabs?) post a scan of the How To article Hot VWs did a few years back?

The vents on a 67 vert lid are the same as 68 to 71 bettle 2 vent lids here is a picture of a deck lid to see the vent location  Check oUt this website http://www.sandiegovwparts.com/gallery.htm

Thank all i though t they looked very alike i just didnt want to get it wrong. Alex

i think that the position of the 68 and later is the same but that the vents are a bit smaller

I will try to put vents 70's on my deck 67 !! Very hard to do !

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But the shape isn't the same !!!!
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After many work's !!
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But Never used because that's too light after grinding !  :-[

I was intending to fix the vents slightly differently by puting them in individually rather than the top of the lid in one piece as to keep the lid strong hope this will work mind.  :-\ Alex

Later[68 on] are shorter than the 66/67 cabrio ones but are very hard to tell apart,I have done a couple like you mention,good luch

cheers richie

I have a 66 lid but dont think i want to cut it up  :) so 68 will do me thanks for all the help Alex

I'd heard that the Karmann vents are 5mm longer.

The way I'm going to do mine is not quite the same as Maxx - I'm going to leave the outside edges of the '67 lid in place, and the hinge support panel on the inside. That way I'll only have to let in the piece with the vents from the top of the lid.

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Position looks the same if that '67 above has a genuine lid. Which is surprising as in pre '67 Cabriolet lids the vents are positioned differently than in those 70's ones.

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(BTW, I can sell that '65/'66 'Vert lid if anyone is interested and deliver to Chimay..)

My first try is about something like you ...
but the shape of individual vents are completely flat ! So impossible to fix the vents in the deck !

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too much deformation during fixing, so we cut in midle ...
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After many times work , i will find a another deck with vents for cut in a midle the new deck 70's !  ::)
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But I'm not a pro for do this work, and mines friends not too ( but they work very well ! ) ...

If the diference is only 5mm but the position looks correct i think i can get away with it looking correct. Alex

Also the on the Karmann louvers all the slots are exactly the same length, as opposed to the VW ones that are gradually longer towards the top.

This looks to be getting more complicated all the time dont really want to distort my lid as it is perfect. I may just try find a proper cab one or simply prop the lid open at the bottom think its going to be easeir and as im not the best welder in the world probably the least damaging way thanks agian for all the comments Alex

HotVWs covered this procedure a few years ago. The method that was used in the article looked like it worked very well and is what I want to try with my NOS '67 lid.

--louis

That's the same method I'm going to try on AssHull's '67 lid :)

Like this ;)

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Into here....

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Local metal wizard Dave Rosenstiel used some Nissan pick-up cowl vents.  He cut the deck lid and welded in the vents and metal finished everything on both sides.  No bondo at all.  They looked great. 

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What year vents are those of are they proper cab vents? Alex

Yep, exactly like that!

thats the best way to do the deck lid but the buttom corners should have been rounded off when cutting the lids, a sharp corner  tends  to crack the weld down the road.  here is a Picture of a 67 lid I made I used a 4 vent lid and deleted one of the center vents so it could not be done like yours since VW never made a three vent Lid I just wanted something Different.  ;D ;D

I noticed you lid on one of your threads i love the number plate recess as well as the vents

Hey Fred, " it's evolution baby!!! yeah"  ;D

Personally I like the licence plate recess, Shubee has nailed the form of it with his attempt, looks pretty factory/german to me. Needles to say it wil look out of place on most VW's but not on a clean shaven early eighties looker. And the louvers are pretty nice to, I wouldent do it, but these are the things that can make a car stand out from the crowd... and whats better than ruffing a few feathers?  ;)

 

I really like the lic plate recess as well. Its shape is right on and fits the decklid well.

--louis

Today there are to many cookie cutter cars out there all it takes is Money you go buy a  VW  add flat 4 BRM's,Sprint Stars,Gas Burners,8 spoke or 5 Spoke Copys, Drop the Front end, Add Gauges ,Built Motor & Trans,Flat 4 Rosewood Wheel, Paint it and your Done. The Cars Done Today are more of a Full Stock Restoration then add the Above. Lets Face it Not everyone in here  can Afford a $100K  + Rolling Blackout or A Gates Split Window, ECT. That Is Not Saying That The Cars We Can Afford to Build are not Nice. It is nice to want to have something no one else has  but that eighter takes alot of Money or alot of you own Ideas and Blood,Sweat and tears to get it Done to me you have alot more Pride in your car When you do it yourself and use your own Ideas when you build a car you should always  build it the way you want it not copy  something you see in hot VW's  Back when I was in DVB with Frenchy they had 37 Members in the Club and there was not One Car the same. just my 2 cents cuz I spent the Rest ;D

Yes but just because you CAN change something doesn't mean that you should!   ::)

IMHO that deck lid is Kustom... not Cal Look.

Do you agree that it makes the car stand out or that you wouldn't do it??  ;D

No. Where's Fab when you need him? I'll remind him this week-end.

Well then I guess Rick You Could Say that this is also Kustom and Not Cal Look??  I Compare apples to apples  So are you saying this is not Cal Look To?  :-\ :-\   

The difference is the sunken license plate... That's where you cross the line.

And while I like El Diablo Gris, it does really straddle the line between Cal-Look and Resto Cal and  Kustom/Hot Rod.

El Diablo is different- the customization done there is very subtle, put a license plate on it and at first glance it would just look like another 'vert lid.

I like yogurt

Interesting.. very interesting... so cal look lies in between changing something a little bit, and not changing anything at all...  it's a hard line to walk thats for sure  ;D ;D

                                         Contrary to what alot of people believe these days, a large number of Cal Look cars in the 70's were simply stock, including trim, cars that were lowered , nice wheels, and some engine work. That was a big part of the look whether you agree with it or not. There was no line to walk, it's just the way alot of people did it and nobody gave a second thought about it.

That's not what I said. Doing something like a ChopTop is a major change yet is still Cal-Look. Putting Yosemite Sam Back Off mudflaps is a minor change.. yet is not cal look.

hey mat, is that what your doing to your lid?

any more pics?
cheers!  ;)

People were different then, and now... some like it mild, and some wild... ;)

Like this one?

Didn't some say that can't be cal look because of the trim??  ::) ::)

Not me of course  ;D ;D

I like Soft Serve Ice Cream  :-*

Me too! Who's up for a run to Dairy Queen!   ;D ;D

Only if we stop for Corn dogs on the way back! ;) ;D ;D

I say corndogs first then DQ!  :D

Deal, come over and pick me up! ;D

By the time I get there, you should be in Chimay!  :-[

Stop by.. it's on the way 8)

                                             Exactly, the same style I decided for my car in the 70's.

That is a Before and After Shot of My 56 Oval  I Miss that Car

Yeah, this is going on Carly's '67 as part of its make over- ive got an old 4 vent '70s lid that I might take a vent section out of to go behind the license plate. There will be more pics around as and when I work on the car, but my '64 is taking priority at the moment.

cld anyone mesure the length of 67 lid? in the middle :) is it about 75,5cm? (70' is 68 something?) thanx for help.

Tom.