The Cal-look Lounge

Keith Moon vs John Bonham?

I'll give you three guesses as to what my answer is....

Oh Jim, you really want to see fists thrown, don't you???

Bonham is one of the most influential drummers in history, and for good reason.  I love Moon's loose, all over the place style.  Total rock and roll.

But I'm really more of a Mickey Dolenz fan myself.   ;D

Neal Peart, hands down winner, break your sticks, all bow down to the great ONE

John Bonham for me.  For me, there are a couple of others guys that deserve a mention here though.  One is Chris Layton from Stevie Ray Vaughan's Double Trouble band.  Another is Steve Jordan from the John Mayer Trio album (and lots of other sessions with different groups).  Lastly is Ringo Garza from Los Lonely Boys...if you haven't seen this young man play the drums, your missin' out big time (check out their Austin City Limits DVD).

Thank God for you , Mark!

While Bonham may have breen a "better" drummer from a technical point of view, I like Moon´s style better.
I really like Chad Smith a lot.

My vote's with Moby Dick.

 :)

So true. I´ve played drums for ten years when i was younger and Neil Peart was my drumming idol at the time. He has, in my point of view, the most creative and groundbreaking way of playing drums. Also want a give a vote for Vinnie Paul of Pantera. I´m not much of a fan of Pantera´s music, but i have always liked his technique.

I think for sheer power, nobody beats Bonham (try 4 Sticks or In My Time of Dying)

I think for sheer anarchy, in drumming, nobody beats Moon (Pictures of Lily)

Other favorites: Mitch Mitchell from JH Experience and Ginger Baker from Cream.... both very jazzy drummers

Billy Kreutzman and Mickey Hart, together.... upstoppable. Like a steam locomotive......

                                       Shear power is a great way of putting it. Jones used to hang back by Bonham so he could look him in the eyes . He said he could literally feel the air concussion off of the bass drum hitting him in the face.

didn't Bonham (during recording of stuido stuff) have to be put off in his own room becuase he played so viscously?  :o

I've heard both Page and Plant say that he would sometimes be set up out in the hall.

Last Feb. I got to see Buddy Miles from the Band of Gypsies play.  I'm not sure if it was the setting, or age, but it kinda sucked.   :-\

Ever hear the Keith Moon story when he was at some party one time, someone approached him and introduced Moon to their girlfriend.  Moon's salutation was punching out the girlfriend.

Maybe UK urban legend.   ::)

In a short bit from Jerry Garcia.... something about the Dead and The Who were playing same bill somewhere in U.S., and were residing at same hotel, with adjacent rooms on the same floor.... Jerry in one room and Moon next door, and they were on something like the 9th floor. Story goes something like Moon ran out of coke in his room, and needed his fix, and proceded to first, crabwalk along ledge OUTSIDE the hotel on 9th story and scratch at Garcia's window (knowing full well Jerry wouldn't be w/o his stash) and when that didn't work, then burrowed his way through the adjoining BRICK wall from his room and into Garcia's.  ;D

BONZO... Steal one bass drum from him, and he could still play like they were double. He set rythms and grooves for the next 100 years.

MOON, Fill every fucking gap in a song, play like a madman, fill up 10th of seconds in a break without rythm thunders,  and still managed to groove into the rythm of whatever song they did.

But for me: Bonzo. I just like "open" stuff.
Ramble On.

How'd he get through the brick?

tre cool puts up a good show !!!

chester thompson is the best drummer i ever saw live ............
that baldy bloke put up a good show too when they paired up ;)

that's right! Bonzo had that foot pedal technique down, he made it sound like double bass drum even with one foot! Rolling your heel and ball of your foot on quick-action pedal.... I practiced it for awhile, not easy to do.... listen to Good Times Bad Times for clear example.

Watching Moon play... like an insane little elf with the power of the universe coming out of his body, has to be the most atypical insane dumming of any rock and roll band... with Moon it's the fills and the TEXTURE.

another guy.... Stephen Perkins....  guy is so damn precise in his grooves and not short in the POWER area either.

who does that guy play with jim ??

he was drummer for Jane's Addiction and then later Porno for Pyros

his hands.

That's on DVD. Yes they did.

For you air drummers out there: Kashmir seems to be so monotone. Start checking his beats, breaks and the groove he puts into it.
Its just INSANE SIMPLICITY yet so complicated.

not listened to either of them for a while . will have a listen on the way to the restraunt ...

What else.

dug this up on youtube for ya !!!!!
if this doesnt get your foot tapping ... you must be dead :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA3rJXV4R4E

went to see my old band buddy last time i was in uk , to see if he wanted to buy his bass guitar back ....
hes now drumming and showeed me his electronic practice kit ...  i'm gonna get me one of those !!! it was only about 300 quid !!

looked at em in guitar centre last time i was there and it was about 3000 dollars  :o

gonna go see how much they can get me a cheap set for next week ...

For years I had always thought Kashmir was the song that summed up the band. Recently I heard Plant in an interview say the same thing. He said Page and Bonham got together and came up with the basic song, Jones then stepped in and did his usual arranging and then Plant added his lyrics. But he said it wouldn't have worked without Bonham. He'd never seen anyone with both the light finesse and the shear power as that. He noted that when he started to hit hard, the force would shock you.

AMEN.

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cool...   specifically check out "Three Days", "Ted Just Admit It" and "Mountain Song" for drummer perfection

Bonham was the man - after going to Day on the Green in Oakland in 1976 or 1977 - what a performer - What a show - Clear winner  ;D

One of my favorite things is to watch Bonham and Jones interact in the live peformances on film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRuTcnd8YLU

VERSUS

THE LEGEND THAT IS KIETH MOON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDwIuIHKirs

Fuck YEAH!!

that's an accurate summaton of Bonham in Kashmir, if you listen, there are spots where you expect a powerful crash cymbal, but it never comes, but IT WORKS. Yes, that plodding "seemingly" simplistic beat fits the "desert" imagery of the song, and being as plodding and simple as it sounds it actually seems difficult
More good drummers   Bill Ward (Black Sabbath of early 70's.... watch 1970 live stuff, he is out of control!)
Stewart Copeland (The Police)

Bonham knew intuitively where to add "nothing". Roger Waters talks of that being one of the hardest things to do as a musician.

my hero  8)

You guys are all wrong this is the best drummer in the world end of. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM6o1Hv7ec0&feature=related

I do believe my favorite Bonham effort is Achillies' Last Stand.  Some killer fills, particularly the one around 2:27 (if I remember that correctly).

you(re martin , animal is the best drummer

ANIMAL !!! How could i forget. ;D ;D ;D   If somebody could post FEVER, best Animal performance EVER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yvHWyvexZA

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAH, Falling of my chair. He even looks like Bonzo  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks Martin !

animal the best drummer and he's involved into vw also ;D ;D ;D

So Animal is the best, and everybody's happy.

i have a spanner to throw in the works .....  :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_7fInOF1FU

I was wondering when someone was gonna mention John. He used to tell us (me and rob in the clip) about playing with the pistols etc on our saturday morning treks over to manchester.

Cool Stuff !

Pierre Van der Linden

Really old school drummer. Go search, Brainbox, Focus, Trace.

Bill Bruford - Yes
But Pierre Van Der Linden is it for me. More free.

I have found the world's greatest drummer -- -- a true unknown -- but that doesn't hide his genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7E&feature=player_embedded

Damn I LOVE watching him beat those things LOL

Charlie Watts… 8)

This guy is awesome !

Why ASK ! They where both great!! How about buddy rich ? Just be glade to have been able to hear all there art!! And randy, Yes to Rush's Drummer !!

O-YA for anybody that spent any time in the hollywood band seen, brian O brian of a band called ali-cart, Somebody to of seen!!

Bonham

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56sZOUPegUw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmUbYiFXT_0&feature=watch_response

spent an hour trying to find this and finally there it was -- 2 of the greats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ5B7yqDYbA&feature=related

Thanks for the buddy rich stuff !! If you like bluez stuff, A drummer that plays in a band called blue baron, They play at stub-riks in fullerton Ca on friday and saturday night sometimes.

Saw this in the LA Times yesterday.... sorry for the old thread dredge but a good story!

http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-fitness-neil-peart-20110725,0,1651065.story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ-ltGcZMtU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2OylafY6PY

I love Mason's drumming, but if you removed Nick from Floyd, I don't think he'd impress. With Nick it was all timing of downbeat with Roger's bass (the "heartbeat" of Floyd's sound). Some of his fills do flow and thunder with the best of them, but I think Mason was best at accenting Floyd's quiet and creepy qualities, his ride cymbal technique in songs like "Eugene" just fit!

thanks for posting Nico
 8)

Well I like them all  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsgH2Pxl7jc&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx8R1my7lFc&feature=youtu.be

Moon vs Bonham - I vote Moon.

I also think Neil Peart is a technical genius, but Chad Smith is the ultimate groove master:) 

I would go with Bonham, mainly because I share the same last name...;D

True story, no joke.  My dad's father's name was John; but by no means any relation to the legendary Led Zep drummer.  I used to have people all the time ask me if I was related to the drummer when I was 10, 12 years old.   :D

how about the forums very own John Maher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzJeovAiDKs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW86Vr9Engg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

so many amazing drummers...a few of my faves have allready been mentioned...neil peart, stewart copeland, mitch mitchell, animal, buddy rich...add to that nick "topper" headon....

as far as the op's question goes it's bonham > moon.

but for me, personally, my all time favourite and most influentual is dave grohl (nirvana, foo fighters, queens of the stone age, probot)!

For me its Steve white!  But its probably more to do with the style of music he has played in his career.

http://www.whiteydrums.com/indexVIDEO.htm