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Any pics of cammer Fairlanes AFX cars? With 427 SOHC motor?

is this (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://dearbornflashback.com/1brannan65afx2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://dearbornflashback.com/65afx.asp&h=302&w=511&sz=31&hl=en&start=2&um=1&usg=__oa8hkf2n3rndj587Rt19it2b-t8=&tbnid=MRNy15rYwnAabM:&tbnh=77&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcammer%2BFairlane%2BAFX%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN) the one you're talking about?

(http://www.musclecargarage.com/JimFordAFX.JPG)

http://www.musclecargarage.com/JimFordAFX.html

http://flickr.com/photos/41433077@N00/417577830/

I thought that Cammer came 2-3 years later than those 427 Thunderbolt Fairlanes, but Google prooved me wrong.

Would Dyno Don's Mercury Comet, sister model to Fairlane, do?

(http://www.fordmuscle.com/blog/FMBlogImages/DynoDonComet.jpg)

(http://www.fordmuscle.com/blog/FMBlogImages/fliptop.jpg)

(http://imgs1.images.hotrod.com/thehistoryof/nicholson_1964_z.jpg)

I am more into Dodges in the Factory Experimental classes of that vintage ;)
(http://members.tripod.com/~photobybob/doorcar001.jpg)

cool pics keep them coming....  how about some engine specs from some of the front running "cammers"?

Those engines are wild. Due to the chain stretch, they would have to run one cam retarded and one cam advanced. They were built on the side oiler block. I think you can buy an all alum version now.

--louis

A guy here at work has a Fairlane AFX, but not the cammer motor for it, but it is setup to take one, with moved out strut towers/susp points.... he was opening my eyes really wide on these motors.... sounds like it was a real mean mother. I would love to learn more about them,

Thanks louis!

Here is some info I found online.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_FE_engine

http://www.supermotors.net/vehicles/articles/lfm-issue01-a2-1.php

http://phystutor.tripod.com/stang/engines/427sohc.html

It doesn't mention it in the article, but I think they ran them in CANAM cars as well.

--louis

Here in Norway we actually had a real Thunderbolt with a 427 SOHC that was kept flawless but used hard on the dragstrip in the eighties. I don't think anyone really knew how extremely rare it was..
If I'm not mistaken the car was later sold back to the US. Will scan some pictures when I have time to look through my old magazines.

A bit off topic in this Fairlane thread, but a friend of mine had this '64 Galaxie until recently.
The car was built like this in 1968 and raced until 1972, not touched since.. The paintjob, diamond stitch interior, gauges and everything else was done back then..
The drivetrain consists of a 427 sideoiler with lots of HOT parts from Fords racing division (like an experimental intake), a reinforced Toploader 4-speed and 9" rear with Detroit Locker and 4,10 gears.. It really makes that heavy car behave like a rocket!
No freeway cruiser though..

One more  ;D

awesome picture...  thanks RR

That is a GREAT photo!!!!

Are you sure you guys are allowed to be talking about these cars :o

cool....

That's one complicated looking engine. I'm curious as to what the large gear on the smaller (inner) timing chain is for. Normally it would be for the camshaft, but they are on the heads now. Perhaps it's to drive the distributor. On a different note, there's a guy in my neighborhood who just finished building a thunderbolt replica complete with vintage style signwriting. I don't know what engine he has in it, but it sounds mean.

Looks like it drives a jack shaft now and runs the oil pump and maybe the distributor - most likly both

Phffff. My dad's a yard full of them things. ::) Actually he's got a couple 66 and 67 Fairlane GTs and GTA convertibles with 390s and a few Galaxy 500s. Neat cars.

So let me get this straight are Fairlane AFX cammer cars  CAL-LOOK because you realize this is a CAL-LOOK site.
 I just don't see the point. It really is weird to be talking about these here, find a Fairlane lovers site for crying out loud.

I remember seeing some pictures of it in Wheels/Power/V8-Magazine, there was also a '67 or '68 SOCH Mustang in Sweden that raced in Nordic Modfied Standard (~NHRA Super Stock) class in 80's.

Very funny.. Would EMPI guys have converted Inch Pincher to drag racing car without these factory looking / factory backed drag racing cars preceding it and making drag racing overall more popular? So there might be a small Cal Look relation  ;)

  cool is right look at those intake ports on the head. louisb says they used to run one cam retarded and one advanced thats wild.
 Hot cars

hey redwagon, I think that is just the stepdown gear, from crank to drive cams at 1/2 speed. The big chain gears look like they are all about if not the same diameter, but big drive gear behind looks 2 x diameter.

You should see timing gears on a Cosworth DFX V8  :o  can you imagine setting lash and valve timing?

I'll start a new thread for cool complicated engines from the past....  8)

maybe your time would be spent better on the "cool complicated engines from the past" forum and not here, assholer >:(

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mmm ... Hilborn injection.. .old school, but man it looks cool!!!

I came across a Hillborn injection setup for VW's at a musclecar type swap meet a couple years ago and  I was very tempted to buy it. In the end I just decided it would look cool but probably be a pain to tune.

That engine with the hilborn injectors is modernized isnt it I thought Hilborn was always mechanical that setup has fuel rails and is EFI.

  Once at Pomona I believe it was Danny Zapeda if I remember correctly, had a dual Hilborn VW setup in the OG box it was sweet.

I see some EFI going on there... A friend of mine is into Webers for various exotic cars & he has a magnesium manifold for 51mm down draft carbs for a sock motor. It has COMET cast into it. There was a Hot Rod magazine cover in the mid 60's with a sohc motor on it with the same manifold. I don't think there are too many of them floating around. Awesome looking motors. I would want one in a 65 Comet with Americans...

Way back when, late 60's/70's my dad got ahold of some of Mickey Thompsons "HEMI Ford" stuff for his injected nitro FC. My dad worked with Dee Keaton (Mickey Thompsons crew chief at the time) and became pretty good friends with Mickey. Mickey did ALOT of experimenting but didn't always test his stuff on his own cars, (lack of time) so some of his friends got the benefit (or melt down) of Mickeys trial and error. I'll try to find some pictures of the HEMI Ford stuff. (This wasn't the Ford DOHC or SOHC it was all Mickey's)
Glenn

The 427 "Tunnel Port" (with pushrod guides going thru intake ports) looked to be another rare bird that could turn the world under its power....

Sheep's friend, this guy Brandon, had a '67 Galaxie 500, pale cream yellow with Americans.....  very clean car. This guy could turn any sow's ear into silk though.

His parents had a gorgeous Riviera, that old fastback style... I have no idea what year, but flawless black.

He even had a 1979 blue Courier pickup that looked liked it just rolled off assembly line. I think Sheep got his '70 Toronado GT from this guy too.

they really are incredible engines......i remember a feature car in Custom Car magazine over here, it was a Falcon wagon with a cammer.....it said that the guy had over £20,000 in the engine alone.....and that was about 10 years ago :o

here's a pic of the Holman Moody workshop, preparing a cammer Mustang...co worker emailed me this morning.

Looks like the Gas Rhonda Mustang. If only race cars today looked that cool. 

But only if you would have been involved bill they would have gone fast"r

Yeah ,I would have taught them a thing or 2, like how to blow up all of those expensive parts.  how is the snow Danny, are you here or in Reno ?

Here till sunday, You going over to daves saturday ?

well if you cannot afford the real thing, there's always this:  http://www.westburymotorsports.com/scgi-bin/show.cgi?id=3094&section=Revell

Woudl be cool to build with my kid someday. Can you still buy the Visible V8 models? I think that would be a good father and son adventure....

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There's something funny looking about that Mustang. Good thread! 

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