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Title: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: BeetleBug on March 20, 2006, 13:36:46 pm
Hi guys,

I will be using Gasburners with MH 215/65 on my 65 model this year but I do suspect that this combo will not fit without using spacers. I know that pelicanparts have a number of different spacers but do you guys know how big/wide spacer I need to clear the spring plate? And how wide will be too wide = rubber touching the fender? Also when I`m looking at the pictures of the spacer they do look a bit "small"... Will they give enough support behind the Burner?

Thanks!

Best rgs
BeetleBug


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: Jon on March 20, 2006, 13:53:58 pm
That's PLENTY support Kalle... but for how wide you need, I dont know...


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: BeetleBug on March 20, 2006, 15:10:55 pm
Thanks JHU! I found these on the www.... Made of 6061 alu and very cheap compared to the ones Pelican is selling. 49,90 USD for a pair compared to 120 USD each from Pelican and the shipping is half price too.


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: Georg/DFL on March 20, 2006, 15:57:14 pm
BeetleBug, Jesus, why do you want to order the spacers in the US? You can get them easiely at CSP – I guess no matter if the are in Sweden or Germany. Less shipping cost, less tax, less stress... ;D
Cheers,

Georg


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: BeetleBug on March 20, 2006, 16:04:11 pm
BeetleBug, Jesus, why do you want to order the spacers in the US? You can get them easiely at CSP – I guess no matter if the are in Sweden or Germany. Less shipping cost, less tax, less stress... ;D
Cheers,

Georg

Because it looks like their spacers will not work if you allready is using press-in studs. Judging from the pic ;http://www.csp-shop.de/cgi-bin/shop2/shop_main.cgi?func=start&wkid=15303923443 you will need extra long wheel bolt instead.

Or is this not correct?


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: Olaf A./DFL on March 20, 2006, 16:10:20 pm
Quote
;http://www.csp-shop.de/cgi-bin/shop2/shop_main.cgi?func=start&wkid=15303923443

wow -that shifter configurator is great! will this be the new »berg-shifter«?!


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: BeetleBug on March 20, 2006, 16:17:40 pm
 :)

Yeah, the shifter configurator is indeed great! I must have linked incorrectly, let`s hope this will help them sell more shifters at least...

This is the Porsche wheel adapter/spacer I found when I looked at the csp page;


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: kormi on March 20, 2006, 16:42:19 pm
Why not change to longer "press-in" studs? Well, its your call, I just hate adapters..  ;)


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: SOB/RFH on March 20, 2006, 19:05:30 pm
Gasburners with 235/60/15 MH on short axles and Type 3 brakes needed 15 mm spacers to be perfect (in my eyes).....with 215/65/15 the fitting is easier and should go on with a 10 mm spacer but the wheels has to sit right for a proper cal-look....it's all in the stance!!


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: BeetleBug on March 20, 2006, 19:13:27 pm
Thanks SOB, just the answer I was looking for. I`m using Type 3 brakes as well. And I do agree, it`s all in the stance meaning that I should probably go for a spacer wider than 15mm to make my narrower tire look ok. May I ask what kind of spacer you use? Shelf made or bought?

I noticed that a lot of the spacer available is not hub centric and uses only the bolt or nuts to center the rim...?

Best rgs
BeetleBug


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: SOB/RFH on March 20, 2006, 21:34:02 pm
I hyave converted to 5*130 pattern and have bolts 10.9 threded in from the backside of the hub. The hex head is still there and I have countersunked the holes for a flat support.The spacer is a supertight fit thing made on a CNC machine out of  billet aluminum.....no "made in China copy and smile" compromise. No color on anything torqued together. I have the long bolt sticking out the maximum and Porsche aluminum nuts (13 gram each)........more then 600 runs on the combo!! Happiness is a Hot VW!!


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: Georg/DFL on March 21, 2006, 22:22:40 pm
BeetleBug, why don't you ask first one of the Porsche aftermarket parts dealer? I don't know if you have some in Norway (but I bet you have) but here in Germany we have tons of them. Just two of them:

http://www.m-freisinger.de/ -> Expensive, but got everything.

http://www.mittelmotor.de/ -> Also very good selection of aftermarket parts

Hope that helps!
Cheers,

Georg


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: BeetleBug on March 21, 2006, 22:31:49 pm
I have been in contact with one Norwegian Porsche dealer and they wanted 625 EUR for two 1" spacers  :-X TUV certified but to be honest they could have every certificate in the world and I still would not have bought them for that price.

I will start with buying two from the us, including freight and tax they will cost just above 100 USD.

I appreciate your help Georg!

Best rgs
Kalle


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: Georg/DFL on March 21, 2006, 22:42:32 pm
...they wanted 625 EUR for two 1" spacers...

That is a REAL Porsche price! Crazy! :o
Good luck with the US parts anyway!
Cheers,

Georg


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: fast54vw on March 30, 2006, 22:32:27 pm
my friend runs gas burners with the M&H dot 215 tires on his 65 bug. it is on an irs pan so basically sits like long axles. he did not have to use spacers at all. if you need spacers i can get you laser cut aluminum spacers in 1/8", and 3/8" (pretty sure those are the sizes) i had to use the 1/8" size on my zwitter with th early 6" fuchs. i think they were around $75
i am in the usa so they would need to be mailed


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: BeetleBug on April 03, 2006, 13:09:49 pm
Thanks for your reply John!

Is $ for two spacers?

BTW, thanks again for the MSD parts. You can see some pics of my project here ; http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?topic=12.0

Best rgs
BeetleBug


my friend runs gas burners with the M&H dot 215 tires on his 65 bug. it is on an irs pan so basically sits like long axles. he did not have to use spacers at all. if you need spacers i can get you laser cut aluminum spacers in 1/8", and 3/8" (pretty sure those are the sizes) i had to use the 1/8" size on my zwitter with th early 6" fuchs. i think they were around $75
i am in the usa so they would need to be mailed



Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: fast54vw on April 06, 2006, 07:13:19 am
yes. that was for 2 spacers. did you get them on the car?
i just bought a 51 split from thesamba
now what to do with it


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: BeetleBug on April 06, 2006, 07:52:12 am
yes. that was for 2 spacers. did you get them on the car?
i just bought a 51 split from thesamba
now what to do with it

Thanks fast54vw! I have not received the 1,5" spacers that I ordered but I guess they will soon be here.

51 split-WOW! What`s the plan with the car?

Best rgs
BeetleBug


Title: Re: MH 215/65-15 DOT, Gasburners and short axles
Post by: fast54vw on April 16, 2006, 05:41:57 am
yes. that was for 2 spacers. did you get them on the car?
i just bought a 51 split from thesamba
now what to do with it

Thanks fast54vw! I have not received the 1,5" spacers that I ordered but I guess they will soon be here.

51 split-WOW! What`s the plan with the car?

Best rgs
BeetleBug

im not sure. the car was a standard model that has had a rag installed in it. there is no pan so maybe IRS i need to finish some stuff before i start to work on it. of course i didnt get the dumb skirts