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I can´t find the proper muffler for my merged header :'( :'( :'(

I started out with a 2½" Stainless muffler (A1 rennkaefer style). This muffler is a "straight through" muffler. It is really noisy inside the car when travelling more than 100km/h, and I would like to lower the noice.
Then I fitted a single quiet pack, and it lowered the noice inside the car to a comfortable level. BUT - the muffler doesn´t have the look that the polished one did  :'(

Any recommandations on muffler - I want an acceptable noice level, and a great looking muffler, but I am having trouble finding the right one.

Please tell me what you guys are running, and give me the pros/cons.

Thanks
Rasmus

Forgot to tell:

I have merged header, 1 o´clock flange (small style).

can't beat dual quietpacks. i like the black ones, but ceramic coated works as well.

Rasmus, di you notice any lower performance when you tried the quiet pack muffler? What type was it?
I´m also running a 2 1/2" A1 muffler on a 1 5/8" merged header and totally agree about the noise level being too high when going fast on the highway!
Oh, and what engine do you have?

1 3/4" A-1 Sidewinder exhaust with ss Magnaflow and custom outlet

Looks great, Mark. Do you have to pull the mulffler to adjust the valves??

1 3/4" Low Down from A-1, All stainless muff.

I too am very pleased with the Magnaflow muffler that I got from A-1. When I was getting my sidewinder made I told Tiger that I wanted the quietest muffler for the 1-5/8s system. Now all I hear is IDAs

A1 / Magnaflow for me... I like it a lot, too.  When I got my set-up from Tiger, he furnished it with a round stainless muffler that was about a foot long and you could see through.... WAY too noisy.  The Magnaflow let's you hear the IDA's like Lawrence pointed out and if you add some Dynamat sound-deadner to the inside of your car, it becomes damn near pleasant  8)

Heres mine single chamber flowmaster Sarge loves it  ;)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/YAVE123/muffler.jpg)

 and I don't need no stinkin dynamat.... it's too heavy 8)

Uh, Jason.... that juice can's not REALLY a muffler ::)  BTW, your car appears to be running a bit lean :o... I see a spot on there someplace, too! ;) ;D  As for the Dynomat, that stuff's in vogue now that Deano has it plastered all over his new project (Hot VW's November), so maybe you ought to step up!

I wonder how much restriction you get with a magnaflow. How about a muffler shoot out. Rate both noise and power.

--louis

Low-performance stuff here  ;)

I started with this
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/Hotrodvw/show_pimage.gif)

And modified it to this
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/Hotrodvw/IMG_2267.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/Hotrodvw/IMG_2268.jpg)

Nice, like they say in UK "that's the dogs danglies"!

As there have been some rumours about Sidewinder affecting the performance, how happy are you Glenn and Fred with the performance side of your exhaust?

I use an Edelbrock muffler, custom made by a hot rod guy here in the uk! ;D

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/benssp/DSCF0879.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/benssp/muffler-front.jpg)


I've still got to trim the tailpipe

   "JUICE CAN" huh   (curly) Oh I see a WISE guy, why I oughta...  Thanks Sarge, it does have a nice gray tint to the tip nowadays from the "good stuff" that runs through it but that shot is actually from the buildup days and the engine hadn't been fired yet. Now where is that spot........

The issue that dynoed the Blueprinting series Hot VW 2276 tested mufflers, I believe it was the Magnaflow vs The Super Turbo. The Magnaflow was the hp winner.
I remember Mark Herbert campaigning against the Magnaflows,  ;D calling them "dune buggy" mufflers.

I have to say, the rasp of my muffler can be a bit nerve wracking. It's an acquired taste. Not bad at idle and lower rpm, but put your foot down and your ears reach their pain threshold instantly. (Magnaflow)
But when the conditions are right, to me, my car has never sounded better than this current setup. Just don't ask my neighbors their opinion.  ::)

I ran a magnaflow muffler on my old 1914/w130 engine, and that thing was loud as hell. It was a straight  through muffler (you could see through the muffler). Is this the same muffler you guys are talking about when referring to magnaflow ?

I would like a muffler that has the cool stainless polished look, but I don´t want the "see through" muffler-type. I wan´t a muffler that is more silent than the "see through" types - what can you guys suggest me (small flange, merged, 1 o´clock).
It´s meant for a 1971ccm/Webcam 494/48 IDA engine/42-36 valves. But until that engine is finished, I will be using it temporarly on my 1600 engine.

For me, that's a deal breaker :-\ I don't mind checking the valves, as long as the only thing between them and I is a valve cover ;) I do like how those mufflers sound though- the extra pass back through the muffler seems to really make a difference in noise. Ground clearance has never been a big deal for me either, just be concious that the muffler is back there and you'll never scrape it.

Here are pictures of the mufflers I have right now:
2½" Stainless "see through" muffler - LOUD (sorry for the "long distance" shot)
Single quiet pack muffler (bought together with a 1-3/8" merged header from CB performance)

I like the looks off the polished muffler, and the sound of the quiet pack (ok, maybe a bit more sound than the quiet pack - but something like that). Anyone know where I can get the best of both worlds ?

nice looking car.

How about a Flowmaster?  Mason's got one on his lump and you can barely hear the exhaust at all  (j/k). ::) ;D

single T-bird

mine...
home made cost me next to nothing :)
but its loud :)

oh... its a purple horny

Supposedly the sidewinder with magnaflow made more power than a standard merged exhaust with megaphone. I think this was in HVWs ???

Rasser, the magnaflow that I have is not straight-through and it is quiet. If you tell Tiger what you are looking for im sure he can set you up with something that fits your need.

It is possible to adjust the valves with the muffler on. I have done it before, but it is easier with the muffler off.

How do I get in contact with Tiger - does he have a webshop, email or the good old phone ?

I have a strange dual tbird. There is 2 mufflers fix straight up under each fenders.


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I remember those... but I think Phoenix sold/made those?

flowmaster.... ? 

714-836-7201  ;)

/Rolf

I don't know, It is only stamps "thunderbird"  on it  ???

I've seen an ads in old french vw mag with this muffler but I don't remember the name.

Thanks, I can just picture myself on the phone trying to explain Tiger how I would like my exhaust to be made ;-)

Don't worry about Tiger... whatever you need, he's been there and done that.
I've used him for several projects and have been completely satisfied every time.

~DR.

Dual quiet packs, ceramic coated? ???

                                                Mason's is the old Dynomax. He used to run a flowmaster about 18 years ago and it would shatter the glass in your car.

For the best performance at the whole rpm range i still use my own muffler , i sell the tubes  bend like this in 45 and 50 mm.

Udo

the one that exited under his RH runningboard?  :o
I remember sheep and I standing around at Classic 1991 when he parked that car right next to us. Sounded like an F1 car parking. I actually loved that system on his car. Though his car sounds radically mean now, it sounded even more pissed off with the FM muffler.

I have a CSP(Germany) stainless stell muffler with some small modifications ( to go under the rear appron) and I like it!!... ;)

                                                            That's the one. I remember Jim Bangs standing right next to the car in the parking lot of Carls Jr., where we used to meet to go to shows, and Mason lighting the car off. Jim jumped about six inches off the ground and spilled his coffee all over my shoes.

I just run the standard old merged quiet packs from the Bergs.

Fuchs, are there other wheels?  ;) Check the November issue of Volksworld and Volksworld site (right click => save as..):
http://www.volksworld.com/imageBank/v/VW_Beetle_oval_window_01.jpg (http://www.volksworld.com/imageBank/v/VW_Beetle_oval_window_01.jpg)
http://www.volksworld.com/imageBank/v/VW_Beetle_oval_window_02.jpg (http://www.volksworld.com/imageBank/v/VW_Beetle_oval_window_02.jpg)

What a beautiful Oval. All dane's have great taste in cars.

Rick Mortensen

Thanks Tero.. ;)... and Rick M for your statement!!..