Title: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 16:25:10 pm Ok, I have been asked to post some pix of the Oval and start a project thread. Not sure if you guys are going to dig it as it's runs a Wassboxer engine and is turbocharged. Anyway, heres a little run down on the car:
I bought the car back in 2003 as an ongoing project started by Pete Shattock (Outlaw Flat Four). Pete had bought the Oval in the 1980s and had started to build it as a race car. He cut out all the inner bulkheads, dashboard and had started to de-seam all of the window appertures. Inside the car, Pete had started out with the hole saw and had drilled about 50% of the lightening holes the car now has. He had tack-welded in a rollcage, but as it was mild steel and of inadequate tubing diameter for today's regs, it had to be cut out. The doors were race-weight fibreglass items from the States on billet ali hinges. There was no gearbox with the car or engine, but there was a very cool aluminium front beam which was adjustable and had been narrowed 4" (Who says narrowed beams are modern?, tut). Pete had done a lot welding: he had replaced the heater channels and had done some quarter panel work etc. All of the work done to the car had been of a really high standard - Pete had obviously taken his time and been patient. However, another project came along, so Pete and the Oval parted ways. The first shot is of the car pretty much as I got it: Day Mouldings wings, fibreglass bonnet, race weight doors etc. The Sprint Stars and Ercos were put on for getting an overall idea of what the car would look like. And, because I bench race a lot, the car had already scored itself a moniker - All Torque! (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/01a.jpg) After planning out what I was going to do with the car I set about cutting out unnecessary metal to make way for the Porsche 915 gearbox with Quaife dif. I chopped the rear torsion bars out of the equation and narrowed the back end nearly five inches. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/02b.jpg) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/03a.jpg) I then spent days with the hole saw finishing off the 'drilled' look (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/02a.jpg) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/02c.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: speedwell on November 30, 2008, 16:43:43 pm it look like a cheese matt ;D ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 17:34:26 pm I then started work on de-seaming the B-pillars. Again, quite a of work especially when you consider marking out and then drilling the holes at a very slow pace...
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/06a.jpg) The orginianl Oval dash had been cut out, so I decided to weld it up completely and then panel beat some double curvature into the dash... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/07a.jpg) Back to the rear end: A mock up of the 915 gearbox and a turbo header with a T04 turbo... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/04a.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 17:54:46 pm Work on the car stopped for over a year as I moved to Cornwall etc. In 2007 I got back into the project and decided on a cro-moly cage. I called up good buddy Wayne Allman of the Intergalactic Custom Shop and asked him whether he could help out on the project. Yep, he was up for it, so I went to Stratford-upon-Avon for a week. Wayne and I worked six days and nights solid and came up with a semi-tube frame chassis/roll cage. Big up to Wayne as he is true Artisan!
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/09a.jpg) Wayne takes health and safety very seriously... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/10a.jpg) Making the rear gearbox mount 2 inches higher than stock for extra ground clearance as the car is going low... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/12a.jpg) Some of Wayne's tube notching by hand - no expensive tubing notchers here! (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/11a.jpg) Checking out the seating arrangements... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/14a.jpg) The main framework tacked in place. Lots more tubing to come into play months down the line... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/15a-1.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 18:04:35 pm Back at my workshop I continued for what seemed like months working on the cage. I made up tons more tubing and braced pretty much every aspect of the chassis. I suffer a bit from claustraphobia, so learning to Tig-weld upside down and back to front with the aid of mirrors was quite a task. The net result was pleasing though...
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/13a.jpg) With the main chassis parts in place I could work on the front suspension, steering and fuel tank mounts. The steering is offset and is collapsible in case of a head-on. I got a little obsessed with cheese holing and weighing every part going on the car... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/22a.jpg) The fuel tank straps I made out of sheet titanium. They weigh about as much a sparrow's fart! (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/23a.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 18:11:20 pm I sourced a Wasserboxer lump of Marco Mansi from his old race car. In a 2300 lb car (with him in it) it ran 10.86 in the quarter. Power at the flywheel was 413 bhp. However, Marco suggest the original turbo was running out of puff, so decided on this turbo...
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/19a.jpg) I sourced 1000 hp rated chargecooler off Ebay and cut and modified it to fit my application. I then chopped up an old intercooler core from a Jap and made some ali end tanks and tigged them on to to form a radiator for the water system. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/17a.jpg) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/21a.jpg) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/16a.jpg) I then designed and completely scratch built an intake system from sheet aluminium (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/18a.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 18:13:48 pm Marco came down to Cornwall for a week to design and build the injection system and wiring loom/ecu system. He talked me into 8 600 cc injectors and two Porsche turbo fuel pumps! I think we might run E85 in the future, so the added fuel system capacity will be necessary at some stage. All I can say about Marco is he is an absolute genius and a gentleman! cheers buddy! We fired the car up over in spring of this year and broke the cam in. Man, that engine sounds one bad mutha! Can't wait to drive it 8)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/20a.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 18:21:05 pm I then started work on beefing up the bodyshell in areas that are prone to cracking. A little bit of panel beating and swaging goes a long way for rigidity!
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/24a.jpg) I decided to fabricate my own Crotch Coolers a la Split Bug, but with a twist. The twist is they open backwards to let air out of the front inner wings... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/25a.jpg) A big thanks to Stian Abel Larsen for sending me a pattern of an original crotch cooler! Cheers bud! Anyway, I made the cooler flaps out of ali sheet with brass meshing... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/27a.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 18:27:08 pm With the body mods done, it was time for an entire sandblast of the whole bodyshell inside and out. I still have sand come out of my ears every now and then...
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/28a.jpg) Ben then blasted on some zinc primer (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/29a.jpg) Matt Bown came and helped smooth out the bodyshell and laid on some two-pack primer mixed with two-pack green base coat. I really dig the finish. It looks uncannily similar to Stian's car... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/30a.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: speedwell on November 30, 2008, 18:28:11 pm as i can see you're not only just a good vw reporter 8) 8) 8)
cheers fabs Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 18:33:45 pm Time to start work on the dash layout. It had to be basic, but functional. The Autometer and HKS programmable boost gauge take pride of place...
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/31a.jpg) Wayne and I worked on the ali paneling together - it's pretty much done now (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/32a.jpg) I wanted a heavy battery with loads of power right over the nose of the car to help keep it straight. I made the mounts from Zintec (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/33a.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 18:38:27 pm I modified a Jazz seat to fit and had it recovered in leather by Matt Leach. Looks wicked in my opinion!
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/34a.jpg) The engine looks a bit more tidy now... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/35a.jpg) I sourced an Oval bonnet from Dave Dinning (cheers Dave!) and chopped and modded it so that is quick release. I bought a Split Bug bonnet handle and drilled the crap out of it! (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/036a.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 18:40:35 pm I guess that's pretty much it for now. I will post some more pix of work done in the future. Cheers for your kind words Speedwell 8) Regards, matt
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: SteveW on November 30, 2008, 19:40:09 pm Looking very cool Matt :) When are you aiming for it to be finished?!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Todi on November 30, 2008, 19:44:41 pm Like this car! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Jonny Grigg on November 30, 2008, 19:49:01 pm This is just 8)
I think I am a bit behind you with my car in terms of progress, but should be going for paint soon(ish). Still need to build the motor though ::) Thanks for putting these up Matt. Great workmanship. :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 20:02:31 pm Looking very cool Matt :) When are you aiming for it to be finished?! Hi Steve. Was hoping for the first meet of 2009. That's the goal, but you know how it goes... Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 20:03:20 pm This is just 8) I think I am a bit behind you with my car in terms of progress, but should be going for paint soon(ish). Still need to build the motor though ::) Thanks for putting these up Matt. Great workmanship. :) No worries Johnny, hopefully I will have some more progress before christmas... Glad you like it 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 20:07:47 pm Here's a side on shot of it recently...
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00026.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: tikimadness on November 30, 2008, 20:24:14 pm Hey Matt,
Is that rear apron scratchbuilt? Looks so smooth Michael Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 20:27:07 pm Hey Matt, Is that rear apron scratchbuilt? Looks so smooth Michael Yeah, it's fibreglass Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fastbrit on November 30, 2008, 20:32:00 pm Needs IDAs, 205/70s and that'll be a start... :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 20:41:38 pm Needs IDAs, 205/70s and that'll be a start... :) It would be way too slow on IDAs ;D. They look damn cool though. Now here's a thought. Mod some IDAs to run fuel injectors. Preferably NOS Italian IDAs. First generation at that! That would really get some sphincters pulsing ;D ;D ;D When you down next Keith? Wouldn't mind purchasing a copy of your second testament 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Lee.C on November 30, 2008, 20:48:38 pm Here's a side on shot of it recently... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00026.jpg) Looks alright I guess ;) :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Tekken on November 30, 2008, 22:18:35 pm Love your work Matt,really look forward to see the car live!!Did you heat-treat your welds on the cage?And that monster hair dryer,is it an HX40?
Stian :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: AntLockyer on November 30, 2008, 23:15:03 pm Inspirational stuff Matt. I need to get by bug done.
Any detail of what you did with the bonnet to make it quick release or can I just not see the pins? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 23:22:58 pm Love your work Matt,really look forward to see the car live!!Did you heat-treat your welds on the cage?And that monster hair dryer,is it an HX40? Stian :) Thanks buddy 8) Yes it's a Holset HX40 special. Some extra modification to the bearings I believe. There is some other suffix to the HX40 bit, but I have forgotten it now. No, I didn't heat treat the welds on the cage. Not necessary with Tig welding cro-mo. I am not sure I believe it's practical to heat treat mig welded cro-mo cages. Sounds a bit of a hassle to me. Never heard of it before, either before it was mentioned in another post. ??? Not saying it can't be done, just never heard of it... Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 30, 2008, 23:24:10 pm Inspirational stuff Matt. I need to get by bug done. Any detail of what you did with the bonnet to make it quick release or can I just not see the pins? Ant, I will try and remember to photo the bonnet securing mech. It's very simple, but quite effective. Cheers for the kind words 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on December 01, 2008, 11:26:39 am (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/35a.jpg)
The car's looking great but it'll look better on the track so roll on next year. :) It'll be good to have the spaghetti boiler back trackside, did you get a copy of the 'Italian Tuning Manual' with it? :D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: AntLockyer on December 01, 2008, 11:33:22 am Ant, I will try and remember to photo the bonnet securing mech. It's very simple, but quite effective. Cheers mate, I'll hassle you about it in a couple of weeks :) I've been toying with the idea of just bonding the original hinges onto my 'glass bonnet but that jsut seems like a heavy way of doing it. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Neil Davies on December 01, 2008, 13:00:23 pm Ant, I will try and remember to photo the bonnet securing mech. It's very simple, but quite effective. Cheers for the kind words 8) Magnets? :D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: jick on December 01, 2008, 15:56:14 pm wow....thats gonna be an awesome street-car......great stuff Matt!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin Greaves on December 01, 2008, 21:23:18 pm Oh yes the Outlaws new tea maker. :D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: dave.d on December 01, 2008, 21:44:36 pm has someone told pete he can get rid of the tea ern :D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on December 01, 2008, 21:51:40 pm Right, that's enough already of the teapot/spaghetti making machine mallarky ;D
You'll be glad of instant hot water soon, as the Outlaw urn is possibly the slowest boiler in the world ;D. Oh no, forgot... Boom Boom is the slowest boiler in the world ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: butterskotch on December 02, 2008, 20:51:09 pm Good work dude, it'll be good to see that thing on the track.
Fingers crossed I'll have my car out next year too, as it's going to Steveo for paint in Jan, YAY. Good to see that the english wheel I got you has come in handi along with some of that titanium ;). Keep up the good work 8) Brad Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on December 03, 2008, 09:19:10 am Hey, cheers Brad! Long time no hear! Good to hear your Bug is coming on. Can't wait to see it on the road/strip. It will soon be time to unleash that 2276! And those lovely IDAs! 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: 356 seppe on December 04, 2008, 22:18:14 pm car looks really awesome mat
i can't wait to see it keep up the good work seppe Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: flatfire on December 05, 2008, 00:00:27 am Superb build. Patience and major skill :)
Looking forward to seeing it on the track. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Rune on December 05, 2008, 19:25:37 pm Awesome work Matt, would be cool to see it next to Stian's car some day
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on December 08, 2008, 10:25:09 am Thanks for the encouragement guys - I should be back on the project in a major way shortly. I am in the process of moving to a bigger and better workshop. Should be moved in by Christmas! Matt
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kev d on December 13, 2008, 17:56:53 pm Awsome work matt 8)
I`ll apologise now for stealing some of your ideas for my car...I must have taken @30 pics of it at sandown ;) Cheers, Kev Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on December 13, 2008, 21:11:06 pm ... I`ll apologise now for stealing some of your ideas for my car ... Your not planning on finishing yours either? :o :D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kev d on December 13, 2008, 21:58:02 pm ... I`ll apologise now for stealing some of your ideas for my car ... Your not planning on finishing yours either? :o :D meeow! think you know who your mates are too ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on December 13, 2008, 22:20:21 pm meeow! think you know who your mates are too ;) Terrible isn't it! ::) ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Peter Shattock on December 14, 2008, 00:33:03 am Hi Matt,
So glad the car went to such a good home, fantastic to see the progress, you've certainly taken it to a level I couldn't even have imagined back in the late 80's early 90's. Hope to see you at the races in 2009 with the car. I'll pop in for a brew! Peter Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: knastenrad on December 17, 2008, 21:38:02 pm ahhh..! great work and goody to see some more turbo WBX's :P
any spec's on the engine?? ? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: AntLockyer on December 17, 2008, 22:27:05 pm Any luck on the bonnet pics Matt? I know you are busy with moving and all.
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on December 18, 2008, 10:05:29 am Any luck on the bonnet pics Matt? I know you are busy with moving and all. Hi Ant. Sorry, really busy at the moment, but will be able to get my car out in the next week, so will take some pix and post them for you. Cheers, matt Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on January 11, 2009, 21:53:14 pm ahhh..! great work and goody to see some more turbo WBX's :P any spec's on the engine?? ? 2110 cc with an Okrassa crank. 46 x 40mm Knuff modified heads. Custom turbo grind cam. Holset HX40 turbo off a 9 liter truck!. 8 injector system by Marco Mansi with a Wolf ECU. Tial wastegate and blow off valve. Water cooled chargecooler with twin Bosch water pumps. Aquamist water/methanol injection system. Homemade intake system with 4" plenum and 2" primaries. Cosworth 56mm throttle body. HP to date with small turbo, small chargecooler and max out injectors: 413 bhp. With the new mods? Not sure, hoping for a little more ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: 58vw on January 25, 2009, 18:57:31 pm very nice work...awesome looking car...cant wait to see some video on it ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Wout on May 01, 2009, 09:41:52 am Hey Matt
Is the car allready finished? ;D It allready looks stunning :o :o :o!!!!! Hope to see it in real life very soon ;). cu Wout (Belgian Fotographer) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on May 01, 2009, 10:56:46 am Matt, just think of all that steak you are not earning by working on your own car! ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 03, 2009, 12:12:27 pm Gyles - welcome to the 'Lounge' farmer boy ;)
How about a thread on your car with some tasty pix? Matt Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 07, 2009, 20:54:20 pm Brief update: Been real busy - the body went to the paint shop on Thursday and I took the chassis down to the blaster's yesterday! Fingers crossed :o
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Jonny Grigg on May 07, 2009, 22:46:00 pm did you get your chute mount sorted? I was at Wayne's when you rang him the other week- welding my steering column for a quick-release boss....
sounds like you have beaten me to paint... mine should be in the 'shop on Saturday but I am not sure i'll make it for then.... can't wait to see you car close up- it looks so impressive from the pictures. cheers, J. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 08, 2009, 08:42:50 am Hey Johnny! Yes, got the chute mount and the wheelie bars sorted 8). How's your car coming on? Will it be out this year?
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on May 08, 2009, 10:22:33 am Gary's Picnic or the Summer Nationals? :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 11, 2009, 08:17:48 am Gary's Picnic or the Summer Nationals? :) Not sure... hopefully have the car up and running late June early-ish July. Would love to make one of the summer races 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 11, 2009, 08:24:03 am Just got the chassis back from media blasting! 8)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00054-1.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: jamiep_jamiep on May 11, 2009, 08:40:03 am Cool Matt! What finish are you going for on the chassis/cage?
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on May 11, 2009, 10:40:04 am ... hopefully have the car up and running late June early-ish July. Would love to make one of the summer races ... Looking forward to seeing it roll. 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fastbrit on May 11, 2009, 11:32:09 am Looking forward to seeing it roll. 8) Bad choice of words... :DTitle: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on May 11, 2009, 12:28:25 pm Looking forward to seeing it roll. 8) Bad choice of words... :D:o Reading at that again you might have a point! :D Looking forward to watching the spaghetti steaming. 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Roman on May 11, 2009, 19:30:49 pm Just got the chassis back from media blasting! 8) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00054-1.jpg) 8 wheels? Richie Webb always teases me for having 6 wheels! ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 11, 2009, 22:41:42 pm Cool Matt! What finish are you going for on the chassis/cage? Two pack paint primer then two pack top coat Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 11, 2009, 22:44:24 pm ... hopefully have the car up and running late June early-ish July. Would love to make one of the summer races ... Looking forward to seeing it roll. 8) It rolls around the workshop quite nicely. Especially as an arachnid ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 19, 2009, 22:44:19 pm The chassis now has some primer and is being rubbed down and prepped for paint tomorrow!
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00106.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 19, 2009, 23:06:10 pm did you get your chute mount sorted? I was at Wayne's when you rang him the other week- welding my steering column for a quick-release boss.... sounds like you have beaten me to paint... mine should be in the 'shop on Saturday but I am not sure i'll make it for then.... can't wait to see you car close up- it looks so impressive from the pictures. cheers, J. Pretty much done making my chute mount ;) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00001.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: richie on May 20, 2009, 02:01:02 am did you get your chute mount sorted? I was at Wayne's when you rang him the other week- welding my steering column for a quick-release boss.... sounds like you have beaten me to paint... mine should be in the 'shop on Saturday but I am not sure i'll make it for then.... can't wait to see you car close up- it looks so impressive from the pictures. cheers, J. Pretty much done making my chute mount ;) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00001.jpg) Matt looks nice & neat,you would proberly have found it easier to do if you removed that trolley from under it first though :o :D cheers richie Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: 71CALRIPPER on May 20, 2009, 07:03:31 am The Quality of work is just :o :o :o
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Black Sheep on May 20, 2009, 07:46:07 am Looking very good Matt , Gary's picnic then 8) , candle at both end's , midnight oil and stuff :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 20, 2009, 08:22:40 am Matt looks nice & neat,you would proberly have found it easier to do if you removed that trolley from under it first though :o :D cheers richie Cheers Rich! The extra wheels are there so that I don't join the 'mile high' club. Did you ever get round to putting sponsor logos on your floorpan? ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 20, 2009, 08:59:15 am Really starting to get excited now. Picking the body up from the paintshop on Friday 8)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/Picture236.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Jim Smith on May 20, 2009, 19:21:24 pm Unit 2a,
Leckhampton Ind Est, Leckhampton Road, Cheltenham, GLOS GL53 0AL ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 20, 2009, 19:23:03 pm Unit 2a, Leckhampton Ind Est, Leckhampton Road, Cheltenham, GLOS GL53 0AL ;) Man, my little brain is so preoccupied. I promise it will happen this week Jimbo ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 20, 2009, 19:25:05 pm Got this shot in my inbox this morning 8)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/-2-1.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on May 20, 2009, 19:31:24 pm Hell thats looking good. Have to come and have a gander. Who's turn is it to make the tea tho ???
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 20, 2009, 19:32:51 pm Hell thats looking good. Have to come and have a gander. Who's turn is it to make the tea tho ??? Me tea pimp, you tea bitch. You know da rules ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Pas on May 20, 2009, 19:39:53 pm Cool as hell Matt 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: cal-look 56 on May 20, 2009, 19:46:06 pm That car is awesome. Good job guys ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: fahrvergnugen on May 20, 2009, 20:20:17 pm I loved the green collor, but this is just awsome :o. Keep those pic's comming i need some insiration like this now and then ;)
Paul. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: m.m.p on May 20, 2009, 21:33:12 pm Just got the chassis back from media blasting! 8) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00054-1.jpg) hi matt, make sure the cage gets a 8.50 spec or lower, because 9.50 spec cage aint going to be good enought :o , Im scared just looking a it ::) i estimate 550bhp with 1700lb car = 8.94s :o good luck mate... Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: fahrvergnugen on May 20, 2009, 21:48:36 pm Just got the chassis back from media blasting! 8) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00054-1.jpg) i estimate 550bhp with 1700lb car = 8.94s :o good luck mate... All that by just looking at the chassis, Damn you're good ;D Paul. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on May 21, 2009, 02:14:23 am you just know its going to be good!, go go keenooooo ;)
Martin Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 21, 2009, 07:53:41 am hi matt, make sure the cage gets a 8.50 spec or lower, because 9.50 spec cage aint going to be good enought :o , Im scared just looking a it ::) Hi Marco! The chassis has already been tagged to 8.50 (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00039-1.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Black Sheep on May 21, 2009, 07:56:38 am OH NO two gold hair dryers in the Outlaws ::) ;D is that Porsche white or wehise "spelling" gold ? Nice choice 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 21, 2009, 08:12:39 am OH NO two gold hair dryers in the Outlaws ::) ;D is that Porsche white or wehise "spelling" gold ? Nice choice 8) Nah, it's Diamond Green - the car's OG colour 8). Diamond Green never seems to photo easily. One minute it looks gold, the next it looks green :o Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on May 21, 2009, 08:21:27 am ... The chassis has already been tagged to 8.50 ... What have you been tagged to? :D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Black Sheep on May 21, 2009, 08:37:33 am OH NO two gold hair dryers in the Outlaws ::) ;D is that Porsche white or wehise "spelling" gold ? Nice choice 8) Nah, it's Diamond Green - the car's OG colour 8). Diamond Green never seems to photo easily. One minute it looks gold, the next it looks green :o Whoops sorry Matt Green or Gold like it V much :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 21, 2009, 08:41:08 am ... The chassis has already been tagged to 8.50 ... What have you been tagged to? :D Asbo ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: jamiep_jamiep on May 21, 2009, 11:20:26 am Got this shot in my inbox this morning 8) Jees dude that really, really looks the biz! You must be itching to get it together now!!!(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/-2-1.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Wout on May 21, 2009, 16:46:58 pm Awesome!!! :o :o :o
Can't wait to se it in real life! gr Wout Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Lee.C on May 21, 2009, 17:12:14 pm So I guess you'll be running at Gary's Picnic then ??? ;) :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 21, 2009, 21:18:55 pm So I guess you'll be running at Gary's Picnic then ??? ;) :) No chance. Got pesky customer work to squeeze in ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 22, 2009, 08:36:22 am Got the pan back yesterday from the paintshop. Looks real nice. Will post some build up pix shortly ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 23, 2009, 18:58:56 pm Got the body back on Friday and am over the moon 8). Pix to follow...
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Lee.C on May 23, 2009, 19:03:17 pm Ah come on stop teasin >:( ;) :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on May 24, 2009, 10:10:06 am It's looking good in paint. 8)
Are you going to bring it to Gary's Picnic (for display) again? :P ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 24, 2009, 17:16:32 pm Are you going to bring it to Gary's Picnic (for display) again? :P ;D Ha, you are so funny ;D. I will be there if it not raining, but my car wont :( Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Lee.C on May 24, 2009, 17:57:58 pm I'll be there Saturday only :'(
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on May 24, 2009, 21:53:55 pm ... I will be there if it not raining, but my car wont ... Great, so what do you want me to do with your picket fence, mirror tiles and chromed hub stands? :P See you at the weekend. :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 25, 2009, 09:09:25 am ... I will be there if it not raining, but my car wont ... Great, so what do you want me to do with your picket fence, mirror tiles and chromed hub stands? :P See you at the weekend. :) Have you ever tried stand up? I hear there's an opening at the Apollo should you wish a career change ;D ;D ;D Looking forward to the weekend, although I don't have a tent :( Maybe the back of the Audi might serve as a bed for the night ??? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: leec on May 25, 2009, 13:40:22 pm Looking great Matt,
Will give you a call soon, need a few figures for the motor. Lee Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Neil Davies on May 25, 2009, 21:06:19 pm ... I will be there if it not raining, but my car wont ... Great, so what do you want me to do with your picket fence, mirror tiles and chromed hub stands? :P See you at the weekend. :) Have you ever tried stand up? I hear there's an opening at the Apollo should you wish a career change ;D ;D ;D Looking forward to the weekend, although I don't have a tent :( Maybe the back of the Audi might serve as a bed for the night ??? Matt, I've got a spare tent if you need it! Should be at Shakey Friday lunchtime! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: deanosvws on May 26, 2009, 11:20:09 am the shell looks loverly, and nice colour looks like its coming together, might see you the weekend. cheers dean
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fastbrit on May 26, 2009, 18:48:55 pm need a few figures for the motor. How about 38–24-34? :DLee Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: tikimadness on May 26, 2009, 21:33:45 pm need a few figures for the motor. How about 38–24-34? :DLee So you like big ones Keith ;D Michael Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin Greaves on May 26, 2009, 22:37:32 pm Matt oh no you gone and done it now a gold car. Just you wait Russell will be taking the Piss out of you from now on. :D ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 26, 2009, 22:41:28 pm Matt oh no you gone and done it now a gold car. Just you wait Russell will be taking the Piss out of you from now on. :D ;D It's Diamond Green Boom Boom. There's only room enough for one crazy assed mofo running a gold car in the Outlaws ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin Greaves on May 26, 2009, 22:42:52 pm Looks GOLD to me in that photo. ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 26, 2009, 22:43:23 pm the shell looks loverly, and nice colour looks like its coming together, might see you the weekend. cheers dean Cheers Deano. See you at the weekend. How's the back? ??? Heard you fooked it up :( Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 26, 2009, 22:44:39 pm Looks GOLD to me in that photo. ;D Diamond Green kinda flips between green and goldie green given different light conditions. A nightmare to photograph. Just ask Kiki ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fastbrit on May 26, 2009, 23:01:16 pm It looked a fetching shade of pink when I saw it today.... :D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 27, 2009, 08:14:10 am It looked a fetching shade of pink when I saw it today.... :D You want to see a doctor about that, Keith ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on May 27, 2009, 09:38:05 am He's been rubbing it to hard again.. . .
LOL Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Tekken on May 28, 2009, 20:53:29 pm Wow,looking really good buddy! :o
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 28, 2009, 22:38:02 pm Here's a few more pix of progress.
First shot, chassis painted at my neighbour's (Auto Styl) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00107.jpg) Built up chassis ready to collect body (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00116-1.jpg) Body at Colourworks in Newquay, Cornwall (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00118.jpg) Engine and gearbox ready for stripping and detailing (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00120.jpg) Gearbox painted, gearbox mount/wheelie bar mount/chute mount sorted (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00121.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 28, 2009, 22:45:07 pm Please ignore the rear tyres... I realise I have the direction of rotation wrong :D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin Greaves on May 28, 2009, 22:47:19 pm Still looks GOLD to me. :P :D ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 28, 2009, 22:52:40 pm Still looks GOLD to me. :P :D ;D It does in these pix :o Green in daylight ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Adele AW on May 28, 2009, 22:54:56 pm :) Very Nice
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: BeetleBug on May 29, 2009, 08:11:06 am Please ignore the rear tyres... I realise I have the direction of rotation wrong :D I would be more worried about the grip :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on May 29, 2009, 08:13:39 am Please ignore the rear tyres... I realise I have the direction of rotation wrong :D I would be more worried about the grip :) Street tyres only ;). Hoosier slicks for the track ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: butterskotch on May 29, 2009, 13:38:05 pm Good work dude, the car looks ace.
This is one car I can't wait to see in the flesh/metal. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: tikimadness on May 29, 2009, 16:04:47 pm Hey Matt the car shure does look good!!
After looking at the pictures of how the chute is mounted I wondered if you are going to use wheelybars ? Wonder how it will perform on the strip with that transplant ;)That turbo is bigger then my dog ;D Michael Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kev d on May 29, 2009, 19:45:01 pm Hey Matt,
Car looked good in primer, looks `kin awsome in paint 8) Looking forward to seeing it built up & on the track, EBI???? ;D Cheers, Kev Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on May 29, 2009, 21:59:05 pm Hey Matt the car shure does look good!! After looking at the pictures of how the chute is mounted I wondered if you are going to use wheelybars ? Wonder how it will perform on the strip with that transplant ;)That turbo is bigger then my dog ;D Michael You must have a very small dog ;) lol Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: deanosvws on May 29, 2009, 22:31:13 pm hi matt, yes the back is slowly getting better, but not going to make it after all this weekend. it looks super straight and a loverly finish bet your well chuffed. cheers dean
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 23, 2009, 18:44:02 pm It's been a while, but there has been progress. Marco Mansi kindly came down and helped with the wiring and ECU mapping. We worked 30 hours in two days and got the Oval to the rolling road. A massive thanks from me to Marco as he is such a top fella. Absolute genius with spaghetti and ECUs. Big up to Si and Gem at RK Engineering for the dyno work.
We had a couple of issues on the rollers. Firstly, my alternator is not man enough to run all of the electrical crap on my car, so the voltage dropped down in to the 11s. Not good for a decent spark. Secondly, my CNC throttle pedal snapped on the dyno whilst at wide open throttle at full rpm on a power run. As you can imagine, pandemonium ensued, but luckily I had fitted a battery cut off pull switch on the right rear corner and I was able to kill the power before the motor blew up! Anyway, we carried on with a makeshift hand operated throttle cable. That was a little tricky, but it worked. We made 14 power runs in total. First runs were to map fuel at 13 psi of boost. All good, over 300 horsepower. We then started to increase the boost by increments of 2 psi and corresponding fuel increase. Each time the power went up by around 20 hp. At 18 psi the motor put out 414.9 bhp. After 18 psi, however, it became apparent that the ignition system was not up to the task of dealing with the power. Maybe it was the low voltage, not sure. Anyhow, we tried all sorts: changing plugs and closing plug gaps, but the ignition kept misfiring above 18 psi of boost. Back it down to 18 psi and all was good again. We did have one run at 22 psi that did not have spark failure. Bhp went up to 457, but as we couldn't replicate this with another run due to misfires, we can't really say if the power reading was on the money or not. It looks like we are going to step up to a CDI ignition system shortly, so the plan of running 30 psi of boost may become a reality. I reckon that might be a go for next year though, as 400 bhp is still going to make me soil my boxer shorts ;D. I need to learn how to drive the car first... (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00030-1.jpg) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00029.jpg) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00032-1.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on June 23, 2009, 19:04:33 pm Good work Fella!
YEeee HAAAAA! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: JS on June 23, 2009, 19:33:27 pm AWEsome Matt!!! Really looking forward too see the car in the flesh!!! ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: BeetleBug on June 23, 2009, 20:14:07 pm Top notch!!
And even more power in stock with more spark. Now go and get some seat time! Happy days, Kalle Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Lee.C on June 23, 2009, 22:10:31 pm SICK! ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 23, 2009, 22:36:06 pm Thanks guys... I can't wait to drive it :o :o :o
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Trond Dahl on June 23, 2009, 22:39:46 pm Oh my goodness, this is going to give me wet dreams!
Looks amazing Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin Greaves on June 23, 2009, 22:45:49 pm STILL LOOKS GOLD TO ME. :P ;D
Call you tomorrow dude. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: roland on June 23, 2009, 23:27:33 pm Nice work guys! This car will look killer...
Saw that pic on the web today: (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/667/114/20090622/dyn005_original_700_429_jpeg_2667114_b590c1d3bf7db13531eb20870a2f81ba.jpg) Time travel or something?? ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kev d on June 24, 2009, 06:33:40 am Top work 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on June 24, 2009, 08:15:30 am SHIT! :o :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 24, 2009, 08:58:19 am Nice work guys! This car will look killer... Saw that pic on the web today: (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/667/114/20090622/dyn005_original_700_429_jpeg_2667114_b590c1d3bf7db13531eb20870a2f81ba.jpg) Time travel or something?? ;) Wow! Do you have any more pix Roland? That car is awesome :o Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: roland on June 24, 2009, 09:12:03 am No sorry, I don't.. But I'll try to find out more about the car...
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 24, 2009, 09:18:17 am Thanks Roland 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Neil Davies on June 24, 2009, 09:25:56 am No sorry, I don't.. But I'll try to find out more about the car... Isn't it the French oval that used to be the De Coppen Bros one? ??? Matt, I'm really looking forward to seeing your car on the track, 400+bhp should be quite enough for starters! ;D Off Topic - Don't need to ask you that favour any more, I'll explain at the weekend! :D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: jamiep_jamiep on June 24, 2009, 09:30:15 am Awesome Matt & Marco!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on June 24, 2009, 10:14:38 am Good luck with that bitch! I was planning on a bolognaise but she looks like a goer so make mine a puttanesca!
8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: richie on June 24, 2009, 11:23:32 am Good effort guys,get that voltage back up to 13.5 and it will much better for sure,i can feel mine lose power when it throws the belt off,the ECU just doesnt like 11 volts with all that current draw
cheers richie Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: JamieL on June 24, 2009, 13:42:26 pm Great work Matt - well done - but it must have cost a fortune in Feast ice creams for Marco in this heat...! ;) :D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: AntLockyer on June 24, 2009, 16:24:27 pm Looks really nice. Very inspiring indeed.
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 24, 2009, 22:57:04 pm Thanks again for the kind words, guys. Reckon you are right on about the voltage Rich. After all, the coil only multiplies the initial voltage, so if the initial voltage is down, the spark is less intense. 14 volts here we come ;)
Feast ice creams? Nah, we went to Tescos on Sun morn to get some brekkie and Danish pastries were on offer. 10 purchased, 10 fresh cream chocolate eclairs purchased, 4 packets of ham, 2 packets of beef slices, 1 large bag of salad, 1 large pack of tomatoes, 1 giant ciapatta bread, 12 large rolls, 2 liters of fruit smoothie. That just about got the Buffet Slayer fed til lunch time ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: BeetleBug on June 25, 2009, 07:52:55 am Two nice batteries that would give you the power needed to push you above 500hp :)
- Kinetic - 16/12-Volt AGM Battery - Reserve: 124 minutes - 10" L x 6.5" W x 8.2" H - 44 lbs - $ 285 http://www.jegs.com/p/Kinetik-Racing/Kinetik-Racing-12-16-Volt-AGM-Batteries/1128848/10002/-1 Or if money is no issue, the dream battery; - 12.8V (12 volt terminal) - 17.2V (16 volt terminal) - Cranking Amps (CA) 1225 amps - Cold Cranking Amps (CCA) 605 amps - Reserve Capacity (RC) 65 minutes - Capacity 29 Ah -Terminal Type SAE BRASS - Working Temperature -22?F to 140?F - Dimensions 8" long x 5-1/4" wide x 7-1/2" high (not including terminals) - Weight 11 pounds - $ 2400 http://thevbattery.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=0&products_id=230 Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 25, 2009, 20:53:48 pm 2400 Bucks for a battery :o That's worth more than my car :o
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: richie on June 25, 2009, 21:15:52 pm 2400 Bucks for a battery :o That's worth more than my car :o I will give you 2500 for your car :) you can keep the tea machine as well :D cheers richie,uk Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 25, 2009, 21:19:26 pm 2400 Bucks for a battery :o That's worth more than my car :o I will give you 2500 for your car :) you can keep the tea machine as well :D cheers richie,uk Good to see all that work on Gassers hasn't dulled your sense of humour ;D ;D ;D BTW... have you developed a taste for haggis yet? ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: nicolas on June 26, 2009, 14:07:05 pm 2400 Bucks for a battery :o That's worth more than my car :o I will give you 2500 for your car :) you can keep the tea machine as well :D cheers richie,uk Good to see all that work on Gassers hasn't dulled your sense of humour ;D ;D ;D BTW... have you developed a taste for haggis yet? ;D he probally has... ::) anyway, the car just keeps on looking better and better and then better. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: BeetleBug on June 26, 2009, 14:53:29 pm The V battery is commonly used by Pro Mods.. wonder if it comes with a ET guarantee as well? It should for that amount. Was talking to a Swedish Pro Mod team at the last race here in Norway and they had 10 of those at their charging station getting ready for the next race :o
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: m.m.p on June 26, 2009, 15:51:03 pm you can keep the tea machine as well :D cheers richie,uk cheeky f%$ker. you still going to be around for BugJam? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fastbrit on June 26, 2009, 17:21:16 pm Great effort Matt! Just think how cool it will be when you get the IDAs dialled in. ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 26, 2009, 20:44:02 pm Great effort Matt! Just think how cool it will be when you get the IDAs dialled in. ;D If it aint one joker it's another ;D ;D ;D On a serious note, thanks for the encouragement Keith 8) Now go and get that turnkey car you bought back to being turnkey ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 26, 2009, 20:54:43 pm Ok guys... I have had the car since 2003. That makes it around six years since I purchased her. She has been hacked about and given the odd dose of Atkins. I have spent many moons scratching my head as to how to do things and have probably deliberated for far too long in the process. Not a single thing remains standard (apart from the dual circuit Bug master cylinder reservoir) But, today, however, I finally drove her under her own steam (no pun intended, Sanchez, Boom Boom etc.). Ok, it was only about 400 meters up and down our farm drive, but it was something. tI felt good. No, make that great ;).
Along the way I have had lots of help with the project. Marco Mansi, Wayne Allman, Krazy Keith, Colourwerx, Autostyl and Ben Lewis have all helped with various aspects of the build. If I hadn't have enlisted the help of others, the car would be another six years in the making. To all of the above, I would like to say a big thanks. 8) Yep, I did get the car on boost up the farm track. Fook me... I even did a burnout, just to make sure 8). I can't wait to get her to the track 8) Keeno Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Pas on June 26, 2009, 21:36:57 pm Great news Matt ;D
Can't wait to see this one out on the track......Bug Jam maybe? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 26, 2009, 22:44:41 pm Great news Matt ;D Can't wait to see this one out on the track......Bug Jam maybe? That's the plan. Hopefully all will go well! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: yvre on June 27, 2009, 00:20:26 am Congrats!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: BeetleBug on June 27, 2009, 08:10:41 am After spending six years looking forward to this moment and trying to imagine how it would look and feel it must have been one fantastic experience. Congrats Matt!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on June 27, 2009, 10:15:46 am Guess I had better put the kettle on to celebrate eh! ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 27, 2009, 21:04:17 pm Thanks Kalle and guys. Yep, it was a seminal moment for me 8). The clock is ticking towards Bug Jam, but I will hopefully have everything done by then. I collected the rear wings and the bonnet from the paintshop today and fitted them to the car along with the parachute setup. It looks bad ass :o
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Lee.C on June 28, 2009, 00:22:35 am Thanks Kalle and guys. Yep, it was a seminal moment for me 8). The clock is ticking towards Bug Jam, but I will hopefully have everything done by then. I collected the rear wings and the bonnet from the paintshop today and fitted them to the car along with the parachute setup. It looks bad ass :o I'm actually looking forward to BugJam again ;) :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Lids on June 28, 2009, 08:08:06 am Good luck Matt, i won't be at bugjam have a wedding, but I never really enjoy bugjam to many escorts for my liking!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: benssp on June 28, 2009, 18:52:53 pm Looks GOLD to me in that photo. ;D the club needs a quick GOLD car ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on June 28, 2009, 20:25:49 pm Looks GOLD to me in that photo. ;D the club needs a quick GOLD car ;D Yeah, what he said.... ... lol Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: benssp on June 28, 2009, 20:38:53 pm Looks GOLD to me in that photo. ;D the club needs a quick GOLD car ;D Yeah, what he said.... ... lol yours is silver though ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on June 28, 2009, 22:54:18 pm Looks GOLD to me in that photo. ;D the club needs a quick GOLD car ;D Yeah, what he said.... ... lol yours is silver though ;) Dam that colour blindness Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on June 29, 2009, 21:56:16 pm Looks GOLD to me in that photo. ;D the club needs a quick GOLD car ;D ;D ;D ;D Still, Boom Boom has run a ten :o. So he's not that slow... It's just that he cant keep the thing in one piece for long. For some reason he has to have it in a million pieces all the time ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Black Sheep on June 29, 2009, 22:04:27 pm Looks GOLD to me in that photo. ;D the club needs a quick GOLD car ;D ;D ;D ;D Still, Boom Boom has run a ten :o. So he's not that slow... It's just that he cant keep the thing in one piece for long. For some reason he has to have it in a million pieces all the time ;D Don't I know it ::) been driving all over the place today getting more bits for it ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin Greaves on June 29, 2009, 22:11:08 pm Thanks Mat
I did get it to stay together in the end but i still had to take it apart. I like it better in bits ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kraftwerk on June 30, 2009, 14:04:46 pm Dang!!! Aint been watchin the progress of this vehicle dude, & aint seen it since Volksworld show 2008!! This thing is Awesome! :o! I now have a new benchmark to reach with my race car!! Well Done!!! 8)!!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 01, 2009, 08:14:37 am Dang!!! Aint been watchin the progress of this vehicle dude, & aint seen it since Volksworld show 2008!! This thing is Awesome! :o! I now have a new benchmark to reach with my race car!! Well Done!!! 8)!! Thanks dude :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 05, 2009, 09:38:53 am Half way through painting the borders on the flush-mount lexan windows. Mounted the Naca duct into the side window and installed a high powered radiator fan with an adjustable thermostat. Installed the new 600 lbs rear springs - they seem to have stiffened up the rear end nicely! I got her out in the sun for a couple of hours just to check and adjust the rad thermostat - all good 8)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00036.jpg) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00033-1.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Duck on July 05, 2009, 09:47:01 am Also looking forward to Bug Jam for the first time in a while, be good to watch a field of quick cars for a change :P
Cars awesome Matt ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Jonny Grigg on July 05, 2009, 10:38:45 am Matt,
That just looks incredible. Simply jaw-dropping. When I'm finished I'll come and race ya! ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on July 05, 2009, 13:04:52 pm Awesome!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Trond Dahl on July 06, 2009, 07:53:11 am I've said it before but not afraid to repeat myself
a work of art! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 06, 2009, 07:59:14 am When I'm finished I'll come and race ya! ;) Can't wait for that Johnny 8) How's your car coming on? Any news to report? matt Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 06, 2009, 08:00:06 am I've said it before but not afraid to repeat myself a work of art! Thanks Trond - glad you like it 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: BeetleBug on July 06, 2009, 08:02:19 am Superb!
Do you know the weight? Best rgs Kalle Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Trond Dahl on July 06, 2009, 08:07:04 am I've said it before but not afraid to repeat myself a work of art! Thanks Trond - glad you like it 8) "like" is a nice word, but not even close to covering what I think of this car Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 06, 2009, 08:26:00 am Superb! Do you know the weight? Best rgs Kalle I don't know the weight yet, but I know the WAIT - about six years ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: butterskotch on July 07, 2009, 13:51:13 pm Dude, it looks ACE!!
I might be coming to bug jam just to see your car run!! Got to be one of the cars I'm most looking forward to having a proper look around. Keep up the good work Brad Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 07, 2009, 22:08:49 pm Cheers Brad 8) I look forward to catching up with you at the Jam. Matt
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: norm on July 07, 2009, 22:30:43 pm this is ace, very impressed dude! norm
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: jamiep_jamiep on July 09, 2009, 09:00:36 am Man I can't wait to see this one at Bug Jam!!!!
Amazing Matt, its awesome. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Mags on July 09, 2009, 18:17:54 pm Matt will you be ready to next weekend ::)
Mags Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on July 09, 2009, 18:51:56 pm I cant wait to see this one finished. I'm needing a break from tea duty ;D Gotta be someone elses turn soon ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 09, 2009, 21:37:26 pm I cant wait to see this one finished. I'm needing a break from tea duty ;D Gotta be someone elses turn soon ;) Quit your jibber-jabber and put the kettle on! ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: james wotton on July 09, 2009, 22:42:53 pm I cant wait to see this one finished. I'm needing a break from tea duty ;D Gotta be someone elses turn soon ;) Quit your jibber-jabber and put the kettle on! ;D seriousley matt the car is looking awsome can't wait to see it in anger, bugjam 8). Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 09, 2009, 22:55:54 pm Cheers James 8) I can't wait to drive it and maybe scare myself stupid :o
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: lee-maynard on July 10, 2009, 06:42:12 am i have been waiting to see this car run for over 21 years, thanks matt :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Peter Shattock on July 10, 2009, 23:04:17 pm Today I met the guy who helped me pull the car out of the back garden across the road from where I used to live, with a Mark 1 Ford Zepher. We reckoned that was 1986 and the car had not moved for quite a few years, prior to that. So it’s been a while since the old girl has moved under her own steam, no pun intended, well it was actually. Great to see the car looking so good Matt, can't wait to see it in the pits next weekend. Get the kettle on!
Peter Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: SteveW on July 11, 2009, 07:46:00 am ;D I like it ALOT!!
Adele! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 11, 2009, 08:41:23 am Hey thanks guys! And a big-up to the Wolfsburg boys for talking me in to buying the car in the first place!
Pete: I recently saw some pictures that Martin Fenner (not exactly sure of his surname...) took at your house circa 1988-9. They show the car with a boat anchor (Type 4 motor ;D) and a crazy up-n-over exhaust system. I have requested that Martin sends me the pictures and I will post them on here for you Pete. Quite a time warp, and I am sure you would like the pix for nostalgia purposes. Bug Jam is only a week away... Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Airspeed on July 11, 2009, 11:01:30 am Ah, so it had a proper engine in it to begin with then? ;) I quite understand: the seller wanted to keep the engine and sell you the lesser part of the car :D
JK ;) When will you be seeing the dyno again for a 'rematch'? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: roland on July 17, 2009, 15:55:44 pm Looks awesome Matt! You're bringing it to SCC? ;) ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Jamie on July 19, 2009, 21:05:22 pm Saw this today and gotta say yet another quality car added to the OFF
Awesome car. Jamie Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kraftwerk on July 19, 2009, 22:25:58 pm saw you run at the weekend maet and it looks awesome, and im sure you havent even touched on this motors full potential!!! its wicked!! i may even change tack and go wasserboxer myself as iv got one knocking round the workshop! you got any good sites you can reccomend for info? seen rocky jennings site, and been on shoptalkforums, but you got anything else?i like the skinne bros car from the scc video on you tube, & i reckon theses wasser boxers are the future for turbo motors! my bro kaferboy(jamie) has my rajay system on at the mo, which is fairly basic, but think i'll start of with this till the wbx can be sorted! anyhow, enough ramblin...what was ya best time of the weekend? 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: jamiep_jamiep on July 20, 2009, 08:53:00 am Looked great Matt, congratulations on getting it to the track, its beautiful....
What did you run in the end? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 20, 2009, 17:21:50 pm Thanks guys! Had a few issues with way too soft rear springs and shocks so the car was bottoming out on launch, but hopefully should have that sorted soon. Also had my driver's side window blow out at 125 mph! :o
Best time out of the 5 runs I had was an 11.5074 @ 128.79 mph. Cheers, matt Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fastbrit on July 20, 2009, 17:44:24 pm Well done Matt! Great first time out! 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: JS on July 20, 2009, 21:40:32 pm Congratulations Matt! Well done and certainly well deserved! ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Paul Bate on July 20, 2009, 23:08:19 pm Hello Matt,
Good work I've gota say how great the car looks in the flesh so well put together and an 11 sec pass first time out is just fantastic. See you at Avon Park Paul Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Neil Davies on July 21, 2009, 08:14:50 am Matt, it looked amazing on Sunday in the pits - I wish I'd seen it on track, but the rain put paid to that! Avon Park, August? :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: glennc on July 21, 2009, 09:16:32 am Stunning bug mat ! :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 21, 2009, 09:51:54 am Superb! Do you know the weight? Best rgs Kalle Had it weighed at Bug Jam: 1621 lbs (737 Kg) with a full tank of gas (30 l). A little bit more lardy than expected, but still not too porky for a turbo car! Eh, Trailer? ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 21, 2009, 09:54:07 am Hello Matt, Good work I've gota say how great the car looks in the flesh so well put together and an 11 sec pass first time out is just fantastic. See you at Avon Park Paul Thanks Paul, and cheers for all the advice on the telephone over the last few weeks 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on July 21, 2009, 10:45:29 am Superb! Do you know the weight? Best rgs Kalle Had it weighed at Bug Jam: 1621 lbs (737 Kg) with a full tank of gas (30 l). A little bit more lardy than expected, but still not too porky for a turbo car! Eh, Trailer? ;D ;D ;D oi fly boy Nothing wrong with a bit of weight Like i keep telling Julie, you dont put big nails in with a little hammer ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fastbrit on July 21, 2009, 10:55:37 am Had it weighed at Bug Jam: 1621 lbs (737 Kg) with a full tank of gas (30 l). Need to get it corner-weighted ideally with you in it, then measure suspension travel – that way can work out what springs you need to stop rear end squatting so much. Must be someone down our way with a corner weight gauge? Mine is lost somewhere up in Surrey, I think! :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 21, 2009, 11:27:46 am Had it weighed at Bug Jam: 1621 lbs (737 Kg) with a full tank of gas (30 l). Need to get it corner-weighted ideally with you in it, then measure suspension travel – that way can work out what springs you need to stop rear end squatting so much. Must be someone down our way with a corner weight gauge? Mine is lost somewhere up in Surrey, I think! :) Good idea - I shall have a ring around and see if anyone can help out with scales 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on July 21, 2009, 19:09:21 pm Good work Fella and congratulations on getting that awesome machine to the track ;D
I really do like it. A lot 8) Gotta be chuffed with such a good first time out. Keep it coming ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: richie on July 21, 2009, 20:48:55 pm mr Keene,why does it look like you have Marcos lunch stuffed into a bag on the back of your car??? :D
If you didnt have all that uneeded weight on the back it wouldnt squat down so much :o Looks good,now you got the fun part cheers richie,uk Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 27, 2009, 23:03:38 pm Cheers Rich ;) Marco's lunchbag came in handy when I pulled the lever ;D It worked pretty well in slowing down the spaghetti boiler ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: 67pickup on July 28, 2009, 07:57:10 am Congratulations, what a result! I have followed the updates in Volksworld over the years, so nice to see it finished!
PS! Would be nice to see you race this against tekken at the SCC ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Phil West on July 28, 2009, 10:17:50 am Had it weighed at Bug Jam: 1621 lbs (737 Kg) with a full tank of gas (30 l). Need to get it corner-weighted ideally with you in it, then measure suspension travel – that way can work out what springs you need to stop rear end squatting so much. Must be someone down our way with a corner weight gauge? Mine is lost somewhere up in Surrey, I think! :) Good idea - I shall have a ring around and see if anyone can help out with scales 8) Matt the officials can corner weigh your car at the next meet at Shakey for a small donation to their chosen charity Cheers Phil Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: benssp on July 28, 2009, 10:27:29 am Matt the officials can corner weigh your car at the next meet at Shakey for a small donation to their chosen charity Cheers Phil just keep an eye on your car eh phil? ;D last year was very amusing, i must upload the video ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Phil West on July 28, 2009, 10:40:28 am no probs mate she's a pussycat now :P
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 29, 2009, 23:25:28 pm Thanks Beardie. Will seek them out at Shakey ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 29, 2009, 23:26:55 pm Congratulations, what a result! I have followed the updates in Volksworld over the years, so nice to see it finished! PS! Would be nice to see you race this against tekken at the SCC ;) Thanks 8) Would love to race Stian, but he would scorch my ass at the mo :o. I might have to wait a year or two to get the car anywhere near as quick as his ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: JS on July 30, 2009, 09:20:42 am Chicken!!! :D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kev d on July 30, 2009, 12:35:17 pm How did you get on at bug jam matt?
I`ve been away & not read any reports yet! Cheers, Kev Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Lee.C on July 30, 2009, 14:33:14 pm more importantly is it coming to Norway ??? :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Nicolaj (DK) on July 31, 2009, 08:55:05 am Fantastic car I must say.. really amazing project!
Is it going to run at SCC in Norway? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 31, 2009, 08:58:32 am Chicken: Yes ;D
Norway: No, unless I win the lotto in the interim... ??? Kev: the car ran at Bug Jam, but the rear suspension was way too soft. The gearbox cradle kept bashing the track on launch causing the rear tyres to unload in first and second gear. Best 60 ft was a 1.69 as a result. Had a few other issues with the gear shift and one fuel pump seized mid track causing me to shut off at the 1/8th mile. Big thanks to Fastbus (Paul Geary) for helping me out with a spare pump 8) 8) 8). Without his help I would have had only two runs! Best ET was 11.50 at 128 mph with the boost turned down to 13 psi (330 bhp). It looks like the car should run tens with some more traction and the 'wick' turned up a bit 8). Regards, Keeno Here's a couple of great shots from Gwynn: (http://www.pbase.com/slimboyfat/image/115171651.jpg) (http://www.pbase.com/slimboyfat/image/115171654.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kev d on July 31, 2009, 20:37:46 pm 11.50 @ 128mph `aint a bad starting point straight out of the box! 8)
Look forward to watching it next tome out... Cheers, Kev Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on August 03, 2009, 19:17:26 pm ... why does it look like you have Marcos lunch stuffed into a bag on the back of your car ... I thought it was all the water (/steam). :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fonz on August 08, 2009, 17:46:26 pm mr Keene,why does it look like you have Marcos lunch stuffed into a bag on the back of your car??? :D That's not his lunch, it's the net he used to use to trawl for all those pukka pies. ;) :D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on August 09, 2009, 11:29:11 am mr Keene,why does it look like you have Marcos lunch stuffed into a bag on the back of your car??? :D That's not his lunch, it's the net he used to use to trawl for all those pukka pies. ;) :D ;D ;D ;D You guys are going to give Marco a complex ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: m.m.p on August 09, 2009, 16:01:21 pm did someone say pukka pies ::) ???
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Black Sheep on August 09, 2009, 20:18:26 pm did someone say pukka pies ::) ??? Ha ha , how you doing Marco . You remember the time at the Ace's cafe when you got the waitress to give you the old cartridge from the mr whipy so you could suck out the left over Ice cream ;D Pure class , the look on her face :D :D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on August 27, 2009, 18:46:15 pm Quick update on racing times:
Ran four PB's over the weekend of Aug 23 at Shakespeare County Raceway. 11.2 @ 128 on Friday 10.60 @ 134 on Sat 10.52 @ 135 on Sun 10.37 @ 135 in the Semis Big thanks to all that helped! 8) Keeno Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Lee.C on August 27, 2009, 18:50:04 pm Quick update on racing times: Ran four PB's over the weekend of Aug 23 at Shakespeare County Raceway. 11.2 @ 128 on Friday 10.60 @ 134 on Sat 10.52 @ 135 on Sun 10.37 @ 135 in the Semis Big thanks to all that helped! 8) Keeno SICK! congrats dude :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: mr horsepower on August 27, 2009, 21:11:04 pm here comes the vw waterboxers
bye bye subys ;D ;D gr henri. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: vwcab on August 27, 2009, 21:36:22 pm here comes the vw waterboxers When is your 1st race Henri?bye bye subys ;D ;D gr henri. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on August 28, 2009, 08:20:17 am Good work fella, you just know theres loads more in there.. ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: BeetleBug on August 28, 2009, 08:36:35 am Ten thumbs up! Excellent progress.
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Jon on August 28, 2009, 09:33:36 am Congratulations! :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: m.m.p on August 28, 2009, 12:24:05 pm You dont even want to know how LOW the boost is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think i make more boost when i fart:) ;D :P its going to go crazy when he turns the boost up, the motor setup for 30+psi and its only running 13psi :o you figger it out. nice one keeno, but the best is still to come!!! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on August 28, 2009, 12:26:15 pm You dont even want to know how LOW the boost is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think i make more boost when i fart:) ;D :P its going to go crazy when he turns the boost up, the motor setup for 30+psi and its only running 13psi :o you figger it out. nice one keeno, but the best is still to come!!! "i think i make more boost when i fart:) ;D :P " oh so true! lol Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on August 28, 2009, 21:05:06 pm Hi Marco 8)... I wonder what the motor would make with the new turbo and induction system with 30 psi of boost? :o :o :o
Got to be a fair few ponies! Keeno Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on August 28, 2009, 21:08:12 pm Hi Marco 8)... I wonder what the motor would make with the new turbo and induction system with 30 psi of boost? :o :o :o Got to be a fair few ponies! Keeno DO IT! ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Rick Meredith on August 28, 2009, 22:49:07 pm Ten thumbs up! Excellent progress. Are you all thumbs BeetleBug? ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on October 15, 2009, 22:06:20 pm Uncovered the Oval for the first time in about 2 months and got excited today! Me and Fonz worked on her all day and have gotten stuck in to modifying the rear suspension coil over mounts for multi-adjustable pivot points. Hopefully will be able to dial the rear suspension in for the next race at the end of October at Shakespeare County Raceway. Also, got some 8 inch rear Ercos to go on shortly with Mickey T's 8 inch slicks. The larger sidewall is in theory good for another 6 mph so should be able to see 141 mph @ 7,500 rpm :)
Keeno Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on October 15, 2009, 23:26:43 pm Didn't go too bad before. 8)
Hope you didn't give Fonze free reign there, I think it took him two years to design an interior door handle in Germany! :o :P Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: jamiep_jamiep on October 16, 2009, 08:17:18 am Sounds great Matt..... good luck for the last meet!!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fonz on October 21, 2009, 10:02:26 am Didn't go too bad before. 8) Hope you didn't give Fonze free reign there, I think it took him two years to design an interior door handle in Germany! :o :P :P They're very thorough in Germany. ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on October 21, 2009, 18:36:58 pm They're very thorough in Germany. ;D Obviously! :o Do you have an 'artists impression' of what the rear suspension coil over mounts might look like yet? :P ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Neil Davies on October 22, 2009, 12:04:43 pm They're very thorough in Germany. ;D Obviously! :o Do you have an 'artists impression' of what the rear suspension coil over mounts might look like yet? :P ;D or the door handles... ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fonz on October 25, 2009, 17:18:58 pm Neither....sorry....both are still highly classified. :P ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on November 01, 2009, 20:07:10 pm Seems to work Ok. 8)
(http://www.offdrc.co.uk/images/news_2009/news_2009_030.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: tikimadness on November 01, 2009, 20:44:34 pm VERY cool shot! ;)
Michael Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin Greaves on November 01, 2009, 20:47:39 pm See that is GOLD not Green. ;D
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/gold65turbo/MeGlenn.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 02, 2009, 10:18:12 am See that is GOLD not Green. ;D At least you have a good moniker for your race car now... Muffler Mart ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 02, 2009, 10:31:55 am Seems to work Ok. 8) (http://www.offdrc.co.uk/images/news_2009/news_2009_030.jpg) My first wheelie 8) I feel like a proud new dad! Cool shot Mat, very nice work indeed 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on November 02, 2009, 11:16:35 am ... My first wheelie 8) I feel like a proud new dad! ... ;D All things considered I think it's fair to say you're off to a good start with the Oval. 8) ... Cool shot Mat, very nice work indeed ... That one's Sal's. :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Balocco on November 08, 2009, 00:46:00 am Impressive work!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Rocket Ron on November 08, 2009, 08:30:46 am Got up close to your car last week end and was totally blown away by the details and quality of the car.
good luck for next year regards Ron ps talk Mark into some 48's or a turbo please ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on November 09, 2009, 08:54:05 am Cheers Ron 8)
I think Gyles is already commited to the quest for Ida's and higher compression. It seems you have spurred him on with the impressive et's your car is laying down! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Rocket Ron on November 09, 2009, 21:03:58 pm Dont think he needs too big a push in the wrong direction, he's halfway there already :D :D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on November 10, 2009, 18:30:53 pm Oh I'm all for it. I just hate parting with any cash :'(
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Rocket Ron on November 11, 2009, 08:12:44 am easy don't buy the fat chick type 3 :D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: jamiep_jamiep on November 11, 2009, 09:06:53 am Squarebacks rule gyles :)
I reckon the best thing you could do for your times is a more modern drag radial out back, or maybe a set of M&H DOT's. One of the guys in our club has run DOT's and slicks and sees little difference between them, so those M&H's must hook up hard (he runs lows 12's on the motor and regular mid 11's on NOS in a full weight, all steel, full interior etc. regulalry street driven bug). Also, while they look, sound and just plain ARE awesome, I don't think you'll see a huge leap from the IDF's to the IDA's. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on January 04, 2010, 20:48:15 pm Squarebacks rule gyles :) I reckon the best thing you could do for your times is a more modern drag radial out back, or maybe a set of M&H DOT's. One of the guys in our club has run DOT's and slicks and sees little difference between them, so those M&H's must hook up hard (he runs lows 12's on the motor and regular mid 11's on NOS in a full weight, all steel, full interior etc. regulalry street driven bug). Also, while they look, sound and just plain ARE awesome, I don't think you'll see a huge leap from the IDF's to the IDA's. Good point on swapping tyres. My can ran so much better on the new 8 inch Mickey Thompsons - coupled with the new rear suspension setup the car went a whole second quicker! 11.3 down to 10.3. Get them sticky tyres sorted Gyles! I have a spare pair of 6 inch Ercos you can borrow... Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on January 05, 2010, 09:01:03 am Good point on swapping tyres. My can ran so much better on the new 8 inch Mickey Thompsons - coupled with the new rear suspension setup the car went a whole second quicker! 11.3 down to 10.3. Get them sticky tyres sorted Gyles! I have a spare pair of 6 inch Ercos you can borrow... Cheers for the offer Matt, but I have spare 6" rims already. Just don't leave your shop unlocked without keeping an eye on those MT's! ::) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on February 07, 2010, 20:52:59 pm Good point on swapping tyres. My can ran so much better on the new 8 inch Mickey Thompsons - coupled with the new rear suspension setup the car went a whole second quicker! 11.3 down to 10.3. Get them sticky tyres sorted Gyles! I have a spare pair of 6 inch Ercos you can borrow... Cheers for the offer Matt, but I have spare 6" rims already. Just don't leave your shop unlocked without keeping an eye on those MT's! ::) You would need a ladder and a big spanner to have them Mickey Ts away Gyles... I still reckon you should have a go with those Hoosier low profiles! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on February 08, 2010, 14:32:20 pm You would need a ladder and a big spanner to have them Mickey Ts away Gyles... I still reckon you should have a go with those Hoosier low profiles! I take it you must be back after spending the proceeds from the sale of your Ivory Back Scratcher. ;) Might look a bit gay on my car, but I'm keen to give them Hoosiers a go. :-\ Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Tekken on February 08, 2010, 18:32:33 pm Congrats Matt,awsome work-looks really good!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on February 13, 2010, 10:33:36 am Thanks Stian! Are you coming to the VolksWorld show this year? It's going to be a whole bunch of fun, and there are some amazing cars being debuted this year 8)
Regards, matt Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on February 16, 2010, 14:00:51 pm Big up for an excellent feature in Volksworld 8) Cool pictures and a great write up of an inspiring car.
You and the Fonz must have been at the back of the 'shop bent over rubbing like mad to get it looking so good ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: RUSS74GHIA on February 16, 2010, 14:16:50 pm Superb write-up, and yes, definately a 9 in there.
I had a pervy thigh-rubbing moment myself, while I looked over this at Open Sport Nationals at Shakey last year - a great bit of kit, you should be very proud of yourself Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on February 17, 2010, 08:45:27 am Thanks guys! I am amazed how shiny the car ended up after a week's worth of Doctor Detail's (the Fonz) buffing! I absolutely love the side-on shot - I need to blow that up and hang it on my wall. Excellent shots and superb article by Mike Pye, well chuffed'
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on February 17, 2010, 12:18:26 pm Its a credit to you
best feature ive read in ages. Martin ps I've still got that pound ;) lol Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: andy M. on February 17, 2010, 14:34:53 pm Well, if you ask me it's all a load of Turboist/Fuel injection propaganda,
I'm off to make my car feel even more backward by converting it to coal gas and running one of those big bags on the roof like Corporal Jones butchers van in Dads Army, that'll show ya... Andy Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: RUSS74GHIA on February 17, 2010, 20:12:53 pm Well, if you ask me it's all a load of Turboist/Fuel injection propaganda, I'm off to make my car feel even more backward by converting it to coal gas and running one of those big bags on the roof like Corporal Jones butchers van in Dads Army, that'll show ya... Andy Will it double as a 'chute at the other end? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on February 17, 2010, 20:43:36 pm Well, if you ask me it's all a load of Turboist/Fuel injection propaganda, I'm off to make my car feel even more backward by converting it to coal gas and running one of those big bags on the roof like Corporal Jones butchers van in Dads Army, that'll show ya... Andy :) :) :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Adele AW on February 17, 2010, 20:57:10 pm Well done Matt, have not seen the feature yet but no doubt it looks very good!! :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: flatfire on February 17, 2010, 23:49:18 pm What a bug, its worthy of a feature in an art exhibition but packs a punch like Mohammed Ali.
Its awesome, well done Matt. 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Tekken on February 20, 2010, 22:01:06 pm Thanks Stian! Are you coming to the VolksWorld show this year? It's going to be a whole bunch of fun, and there are some amazing cars being debuted this year 8) Regards, matt Hey Matt.If I get time and can afford it I'll come and visit,I'm sure it's going to be a great event. Regards Stian Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin Greaves on March 16, 2010, 23:38:43 pm Well done Matt ;) ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 16, 2010, 23:43:14 pm Cheers Boom Boom 8)
A brief update... Well, Marco has been down visiting for a week eating me out of house and home as usual! ;D. Pulled the motor from the car for a spring freshen up. Marco set about stripping it down to check for any problems. There was an issue with the lobes of the cam slightly flatting off, so the cam was replaced along with a new set of lifters. The valve springs were also replaced along with a full set of engine bearings. All looking good! Back in the car it was time to hook up the MSD DIS2 I had lurking in a box under the bench. Time for a trip to the rolling road and a full remap and increase in boost pressure. Firstly, there was a couple of issues that needed ironing out. The software on the Wolf Ecu had a couple of glitches. Firstly, my second set of injectors has not been working at all, even though the laptop says they are! Secondly, deep in the software is a boost limit engine cut system that has somehow switched itself on! This was the reason why my car had this strange misfire last year on every run up the quarter mile. An upgrade to the latest Wolf software patched these bugs and we could finally go past 18 psi on the dyno. Up to 20 psi the power was increasing by 10 hp per psi of boost as it did last year, but as soon as we reached 22 psi the turbo got into its groove and started hitting its efficiency range. At 25 psi we called it a day because it had made some serious power for a 2.1 liter motor and we didn't want a pile of scrap scattered around the floor. The net result? 573 horsepower (503 hp at the wheels!) and 440 ft/lbs of torque! OMG! Interestingly, with the mapping so much better lower down the engine now makes so much more hp at lower rpm. At 5,000 rpm, the engine is making nearly 200 hp more than it did last year! Big up to Marco for the engine work and mapping - once again the genius has delivered the goods! You da man Big Dog! 8) 8) 8) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/dyno.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Lee.C on March 17, 2010, 00:02:59 am Its a credit to you best feature ive read in ages. Martin ps I've still got that pound ;) lol Same here - cool feature on a cool car :) p.s a genuine 500 bhp at the wheels from a 2ltr 8v WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on March 17, 2010, 07:01:34 am Nice work fella!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kev d on March 17, 2010, 08:21:28 am Cheers Boom Boom 8) A brief update... Well, Marco has been down visiting for a week eating me out of house and home as usual! ;D. Pulled the motor from the car for a spring freshen up. Marco set about stripping it down to check for any problems. There was an issue with the lobes of the cam slightly flatting off, so the cam was replaced along with a new set of lifters. The valve springs were also replaced along with a full set of engine bearings. All looking good! Back in the car it was time to hook up the MSD DIS2 I had lurking in a box under the bench. Time for a trip to the rolling road and a full remap and increase in boost pressure. Firstly, there was a couple of issues that needed ironing out. The software on the Wolf Ecu had a couple of glitches. Firstly, my second set of injectors has not been working at all, even though the laptop says they are! Secondly, deep in the software is a boost limit engine cut system that has somehow switched itself on! This was the reason why my car had this strange misfire last year on every run up the quarter mile. An upgrade to the latest Wolf software patched these bugs and we could finally go past 18 psi on the dyno. Up to 20 psi the power was increasing by 10 hp as it did last year, but as soon as we reached 22 psi the turbo got into its groove and started hitting its efficiency range. At 25 psi we called it a day because it had made some serious power for a 2.1 liter motor and we didn't want a pile of scrap scattered around the floor. The net result? 573 horsepower (503 hp at the wheels!) and 440 ft/lbs of torque! OMG! Interestingly, with the mapping so much better lower down the engine now makes so much more hp at lower rpm. At 5,000 rpm, the engine is making nearly 200 hp more than it did last year! Big up to Marco for the engine work and mapping - once again the genius has delivered the goods! You da man Big Dog! 8) 8) 8) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/dyno.jpg) Thats impressive 8) 9's on the way soon.. Excellent feature in Volksworld too ;D Cheers, Kev Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: BeetleBug on March 17, 2010, 08:37:12 am Holy Moly! Congrats with your good results Matt! Now all that is left is to bring it to SCC and race it hard :)
Best rgs BB Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Ragtop on March 17, 2010, 11:10:01 am Those are some really nice numbers! Good work guys. You definately have the power to do whatever you want.
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: seb66 on March 17, 2010, 14:55:50 pm I also must admit ive not bought the mag in a while, always the same old imo but glad i did :)
side on shot looks particularly ace. good right up too, fair play 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: tikimadness on March 17, 2010, 16:11:37 pm I haven't seen the feature yet but gee I am really impressed with those numbers.Hope to see you race this season.
Michael Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Rocket Ron on March 17, 2010, 18:06:15 pm Matt
Bet your over the moon with that dyno sheet good luck for next year regards Ron Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 17, 2010, 18:45:13 pm Thanks guys! Stoked with the feature and the new hp figures! Better buy a titanium codpiece for the new race season! :)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: roland on March 17, 2010, 21:53:43 pm very impressive Matt! Nice score..
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: RUSS74GHIA on March 17, 2010, 21:54:33 pm Thanks guys! Stoked with the feature and the new hp figures! Better buy some Teflon undercrackers for the new race season! :) :P Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: AntLockyer on March 17, 2010, 22:45:10 pm Read the article very good indeed (mostly just drooled over the pics).
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: richie on March 17, 2010, 23:29:39 pm Well looks like
the little engine that thought it could,can :) That really shows its in the combo of parts,not the most expensive that gets the job done,good effort to both of you :) cheers richie Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 18, 2010, 00:01:30 am Cheers guys! It's going to be a whole new ball game driving the car now. The motor has always had good potential as Marco has built a superb engine with some beautiful internals. I was properly impressed with the work done to the heads. It was good to see the motor laid out in component form to take it all in.
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: AntLockyer on March 18, 2010, 07:40:31 am When are you out in it next Matt?
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 18, 2010, 10:07:57 am Here's a video of the 572 hp dyno run. Sorry about the loss of sound when the car comes on boost - the noise blew the microphone on my camera!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HD6ndN0UCM&layer_token=df83bdaf6714f83e Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Neil Davies on March 18, 2010, 10:18:02 am Nice one Matt. The feature looks superb and the new numbers are something else! Are you coming to Shakey for the 17th-18th RWYB? Bit of pre season testing? ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 18, 2010, 10:26:20 am Cheers Neil. Not sure on making Shakey as funds are critically low. Would be good, maybe I'll have to work even harder this month... :o
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: leec on March 18, 2010, 19:40:14 pm Congratulations Matt,
Im thinking I need to talk to you about turbo's, I need to try and keep up with you guys ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Pas on March 18, 2010, 20:48:47 pm Holy cow Matt,talk about unleashing the beast. 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Airspeed on March 18, 2010, 23:17:07 pm Here's a video of the 572 hp dyno run. Holy smokes! Thats crazy power! and such from just a 2.1 ltr engine... :oTitle: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Felix/DFL on March 18, 2010, 23:41:06 pm Impressive numbers and a very clean & superb looking car. Congrats to that beauty-beast!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Black Sheep on March 19, 2010, 17:33:30 pm Nice one Matt. The feature looks superb and the new numbers are something else! Are you coming to Shakey for the 17th-18th RWYB? Bit of pre season testing? ;) Work harder ;) be good to see you guy's there . There's food too so should see Marco there :D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 19, 2010, 22:17:07 pm The mention of food will ensure Marco 'The Buffet Slayer' attendence ;D
I would love to go, but am saving for the first msa event! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Black Sheep on March 19, 2010, 23:23:51 pm The Buffet Slayer , Gary Picnic ;) ;D ;D
Its scary to see that man go to work on an all you can eat .... Marco , legend 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: RUSS74GHIA on March 19, 2010, 23:43:56 pm Just mental. Well done all involved
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: ESH on March 20, 2010, 17:11:31 pm Impressive stuff. 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 22, 2010, 21:59:40 pm Thanks Mat! You going to Volksworld show?
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Adele AW on March 22, 2010, 22:13:48 pm ;D
Ha Ha Ha Marco is coming up here in the morning.......First thing on my list tonight ? Just been food shopping to Tesco ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin on March 22, 2010, 23:22:33 pm ;D Ha Ha Ha Marco is coming up here in the morning.......First thing on my list tonight ? Just been food shopping to Tesco ;D Turn around and get back to Tesco, you've not bought enough! ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: m.m.p on March 23, 2010, 01:28:10 am FOOD = HP
MORE FOOD = MORE HP!!!! simple ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 23, 2010, 09:35:35 am FOOD = HP MORE FOOD = MORE HP!!!! [/qIuote] The 'Big Dog' has barked! Here's my little snippet of advice for you Adelle... Double your shopping list; no, make that triple and you should be close to filling up the bottomless pit ;D simple ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: jamiep_jamiep on March 23, 2010, 11:14:16 am Awesome work as always Matt/Marco.
SWEET dyno vid! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Adele AW on March 23, 2010, 17:53:58 pm The 'Big Dog' has barked! Here's my little snippet of advice for you Adelle... Double your shopping list; no, make that triple and you should be close to filling up the bottomless pit ;D simple ;) We are doing OK so far !!! ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Adele AW on March 25, 2010, 07:48:22 am Guys, I'm sorry to dissapoint you, but the 'big dog' I can confirm has NOT and I repeat NOT eaten me out of home and house yet!! We are doing pretty well actually! Maybe it's quality and not quantity ;D ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 25, 2010, 09:46:42 am Quick, call the Vet - the Big Dog is obviously ill! ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Black Sheep on March 25, 2010, 23:06:42 pm He must be off his game , check to see if his nose is wet :D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 25, 2010, 23:16:55 pm I think he has a little kennel cough... I am sure he will be fine once he gets his sense of smell back ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gyles on March 26, 2010, 07:53:38 am Castration sorted my dog out :o
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: cassa on March 27, 2010, 22:28:22 pm Hi Matt!
How did the intercooler work out? I`m curisous because I am using two of the same on my setup. Will be used with radiator and ice tank. Pict of an early testfit.. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on April 15, 2010, 19:34:35 pm Hi Matt! How did the intercooler work out? I`m curisous because I am using two of the same on my setup. Will be used with radiator and ice tank. Pict of an early testfit.. the intercooler worked really well. My tank was full with ice and after the dyno run the ice would disappear, so it was pulling out the heat well. Flow thru the inrtcooler is also very good as the hp was really good. For the money I spent on the intercooler (80 quid) it is amazing. I believe Richie Webb now runs one and it works well for him, too. The only down side is it is quite heavy. Matt Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on April 26, 2010, 19:44:15 pm A little update: It's always been an ambition of mine to have some artwork done on my car by Neil and Mandy Melliard at Prosign. Post VolksWorld show it was arranged that the car would work its way South to their workshop, where Neil, Mandy and co would work their magic. The brief was simple: anything goes! Boy, have they ever done a fantastic job - I was speechless when I saw the car for the first time yesterday evening. Aside from the turned gold lettering, there is some subtle coachlines, which really set the car off. I can't thank Neil and Mandy enough - they have done such a wonderful job and the spaghetti bolognaise was top-notch, too! Have a ganders at these pix folks! Regards, Keeno
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00022-1.jpg) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00023-2.jpg) (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/DSC00026-1.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Airspeed on April 26, 2010, 19:57:15 pm Just BEAUTIFULL!!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Coxy on April 26, 2010, 20:02:04 pm That looks great Matt. Good call.
Ciao Mr. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooole ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Martin Greaves on April 26, 2010, 20:11:25 pm Looks shit to me dont like it. :P ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: m.m.p on April 26, 2010, 20:32:28 pm mmmmmmm!! i think its time to go to the track ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: yvre on April 26, 2010, 20:37:59 pm Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... :'(
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Wout on April 26, 2010, 22:59:51 pm To beautifull to race ;D
Gr Wout Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: gibber! on April 27, 2010, 01:54:48 am I had the pleasure of meeting Neil whilst he was striping my brothers Phaeton- his work is beautiful and he's fascinating not only to watch, but to chat to also! Great guy all round...! Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: jamiep_jamiep on April 27, 2010, 20:26:48 pm Beautiful.
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Rocket Ron on April 27, 2010, 20:44:56 pm love the pinstriping on the wings
looks cool 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on July 27, 2010, 21:53:35 pm A little update and pic... The car ran a new pb of 10.31 @ 130.5 at Bug Jam. The new JPM Raptor cam and lifters work really well and the motor seems to respond nicely with this setup. A few people commented that it sounded 'crisper' than before, which is always a good sign 8)
A big thanks to Sturge and Mutley for helping out all weekend! It was really good to have you guys on board - especially with the suspension and launch tips! Got down to a 1.43 60ft time as a result of their help. 8) Still a little way to go with the rear suspension, but it seems to be getting better with each event. Hopefully, will have it dialed in soon ;) I learned a great deal this weekend with regards to how the car drives and behaves etc. There are certain little issues that you only learn with seat time such as how the chargecooler really works, and that the alternator on my car is not big enough, causing running issues when on boost. (voltage drops to 11.9V). As a result, the battery went flat on the car as there is just not enough juice to sustain all of the gizmos and I missed the eliminations as a result of non-starting :-[ Anyway, a great weekend! (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/launchbugjam.jpg) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kev d on July 28, 2010, 13:01:53 pm Congrats on the new pb mat 8)
You running at york btw? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Black Sheep on July 28, 2010, 13:30:58 pm The alternator on my car is not big enough, causing running issues when on boost. (voltage drops to 11.9V). As a result, the battery went flat on the car as there is just not enough juice to sustain all of the gizmos and I missed the eliminations as a result of non-starting :-[ Anyway, a great weekend! (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y219/15window/launchbugjam.jpg) What size is your bottom pully Matt ? had a similar problem with Martins little altenator , whrer we were running too large a diameter bottom pully frying the alt and throwing the belt too ::) Maybe if you ran a larger radius bottom pully you may see some more volts Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fonz on July 28, 2010, 13:34:09 pm A new PB and no breakages is surely never a bad weekend.
Congrats Matt. Looks like it's lauching loads better now. 8) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Rule09 on August 04, 2010, 18:43:29 pm Nice work! Nice ride! 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on August 06, 2010, 08:02:24 am Thanks guys! Glenn, the bottom pulley is stock size and has all the fuel injection notches, so can't be changed. It's simply down to the alternator being too weedy! Got a 75 amp one on the way ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Black Sheep on August 07, 2010, 09:07:45 am Sorry Matt , thought you ran one of those tiddely bottom pulleys ::)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: mr horsepower on February 27, 2011, 17:27:45 pm Any new updates about your race car Matt ?
gr henri Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 04, 2012, 19:58:22 pm So, it's been ages since an update on the car and having read Kev D's posts I have been inspired again to update what's going on with the racecar. Marco as always has been in the mix and between us with have been up to quite a lot recently! The engine has been fully rebuilt by the spaghetti muncher and now features lightweight internally cnc machined pistons, made from top fuel spec alloy. They weigh 60g less than the previous design and also we have upped the compression a little.
[attachment=1] The front end needed a little work on the brake side of things. The previous Wilwood spot calipers had to be replaced as I fancy taking the car for an mot and driving it on the road occasionally. I managed to source some period Wilwood 2-piston callipers and made some lightweight mounting plates. [attachment=2] Next up is the gearbox. I've been wondering how long the 915 tranny is going to cope with the power, so a few weeks back I purchased a long-bellhousing 930 turbo transmission to replace the 915. The turbo trans is a big old beast and needs a lot of work to fit my application. No bother for the Big Dog Marco! He came to pasty land and spent a week working in my shop. This guy is not scared of a challenge, trust me folks. There's not a problem he can't fix, he can do it in the mix... Breakdance! So, Marco pulls the 'box apart and we check over the unit. Absolutely perfect and very low mileage. Result. The L.s.d. is in great shape also. Bingo! We then work out how much needs to be shortened from the bellhousing and input shaft. Marco duly machines down the shaft, I chop a section out of the bellhousing and then weld it back on. Marco then machines down the bellhousing so that it is dead flush. Now comes for the really tricky bit. I've always wanted a Vertigate shift mechanism. 'Don't worry Keeno,' says the Big Dog, 'we'll work it out'. Well, after much head-scratching and copious amounts of tea, we come up with a cunning plan and machine, weld and do all sorts of trick bits to the box. 11.30 pm on Friday eve, we have a fully working in VW application, Vertigated 930 turbo trans ready to go in the car! Bear in mind we started on Tuesday without any advice or help... Naturally, whilst it was fully disassembled, I gave the casings a beadblasting ;) [attachment=3] And the finished item waiting in the wings... Hopefully I will find a Vertigate shifter for sale soon. Anyone have one for sale? [attachment=4] Big shout out to Marco Mansi: www.marcomansiperformance.com If you need anything, and I mean anything VW or Porsche doing to the highest of standards, then get in contact with the Big Dog. He is absolutely awesome! Cheers, Keeno Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: dannyboy on March 04, 2012, 20:06:12 pm love this car 8)
i just hope andy(fast65)dont see this as his almost car will be dismantled again to fit a vertigate setup ::) ;D ;D is it ready for dragday ? :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 04, 2012, 20:15:27 pm Cheers Danny! The car should be there racing with the old setup. The V-gate trans will have to wait until after the Drag Day... ;)
Cheers, Keeno Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Shane Noone on March 04, 2012, 20:37:06 pm Hi Matt,
Awesome work as always by the dynamic duo :D Very cool if you get the beast road legal now too and go out on the prowl around Pasty Land and beyond :) Do you think you will have road legal title by UK Drag Day chap ? Keep up the good work and see you on April 1st. Cheers, Shane. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: kev d on March 04, 2012, 20:39:47 pm That box almost looks too shiney to fit & get dirty ;D
Speaking of Marco & gearboxes its his old 'box thats in my car, which I think used to be attached to your motor?? Small world.. :D Cheers Kev Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Andy Sykes on March 04, 2012, 20:57:46 pm That's ace I like that :) Didn't know you could get one for a 930 ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 04, 2012, 21:23:02 pm Hi Shane, long time no see! I remember back when you and I were racing eachother in the 'thirteens'! Long while back now... How ya been? Don't reckon I'll have the car road legal before D-day. Besides, would never claim it to be a road car per se. That would be unfair to the genuine folk who drive their cars to and from the track.
Andy and Kev, cheers :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: leec on March 04, 2012, 21:38:20 pm Matt and Marco, you make it sound so easy! Wish I could eat pasty and drink tea and be able to achieve that level of work :)
Will see you at Volksworld Lee Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: richie on March 04, 2012, 22:21:17 pm Nice work,how do the gear ratios in the 930 box compare to the 915? what about weight?do you need to use 5 gears like Russ had to? Good luck with the MSE shifter hunt,i had fun getting the one for Kevs car ::)
cheers richie Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 04, 2012, 22:27:54 pm Hey Richie. The 930 is four speed unlike Russ's G50. The ratios are very tall. Will work on a homemade clutch management solution to get off the line ;)
Let me know if find another Mse ;) Cheers, Keeno Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 04, 2012, 22:29:02 pm The 930 is lighter than both the 915 and G50 ;)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: dannyboy on March 04, 2012, 22:43:45 pm love this car 8) opps didnt mean to repost :D ::) :Pi just hope andy(fast65)dont see this as his almost finished car will be dismantled again to fit a vertigate setup ::) ;D ;D is it ready for dragday ? :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Shane Noone on March 04, 2012, 22:50:04 pm Hi Shane, long time no see! I remember back when you and I were racing eachother in the 'thirteens'! Long while back now... How ya been? Don't reckon I'll have the car road legal before D-day. Besides, would never claim it to be a road car per se. That would be unfair to the genuine folk who drive their cars to and from the track. Andy and Kev, cheers :) Hi Matt, yes indeed it's been a long time. That was good fun you and I competing in grudge stylee to see who would be the first to nip a 12 ;D you with your turbo 1915 T1 or me with my NA 2276 T1. I'm doing ok thanks. Been outta the racing scene for the last 6 years partly due to financial struggles and partly a very very long wait for a new motor to get built. But hey ho, I shall be racing my 2332 IDA motor'd '57 Oval at Drag Day, so we'll catch up and 2012 is my 1st season back behind the wheel in a new car for me so need to learn how to drive again !! Mate I like and respect your ethos on road car / race car as I am one of those folk who drives to the track races and hopefully drives home again. Cool. Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 04, 2012, 23:01:21 pm Hey Shane... got any specs on your new motor? JMR motor? As I remember, John built your old motor. Great engine builder, would love to see him back on the track, too 8)
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: m.m.p on March 04, 2012, 23:10:04 pm That's ace I like that :) Didn't know you could get one for a 930 ;D you cant ;) Its alot of work. :) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 04, 2012, 23:11:57 pm Hey, the spaghetti muncher is in da house! Word up Big Dog!
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: m.m.p on March 04, 2012, 23:18:30 pm Its always a pleasure to see you again Matt :) hey your picture of Ba-baracus and the turbo is looking more realistic nowerdays!!!!!!! ;) hahah
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 04, 2012, 23:21:37 pm Do you reckon BA is holding a HX52? ha ha ha ;D Nah, probably Paul's new turbo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Shane Noone on March 05, 2012, 11:26:40 am Hey Shane... got any specs on your new motor? JMR motor? As I remember, John built your old motor. Great engine builder, would love to see him back on the track, too 8) Morning Matt .... Yes John has built this one too, for me. It's nothing too unusual has Comp Eliminator heads, FK87 cam. 11:1 and IDA's and makes 214 bhp at the flywheel with fanbelt and muffler attached. This is hooked up to a street strip box from Peter with stock 1st / 2nd, 1.58 3rd and 1.21 4th AFAIK with a 4.12 R+P. All bolted into a full steel bodied 57 Oval with glass all round, one of Jim's 6 point cro-moly cages tied in, stripped out interior with a race seat and harness much like my old blue '63 was ;D I don't think John will race again on the mainland, although for fun he has raced a customers car at his local meet, The Hebridean Drags. I think John has been too busy for the last 2-3 years with his new business venture which is a specific style of photography. It's pretty funky stuff and he goes under the name of The Flying Monk. But , John, if your on here and read this and you know different, I am sure there are loads of fellow racers that would be excited to hear of your return ;) Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: dannyboy on March 05, 2012, 19:40:51 pm Hi Shane, long time no see! I remember back when you and I were racing eachother in the 'thirteens'! Long while back now... How ya been? Don't reckon I'll have the car road legal before D-day. Besides, would never claim it to be a road car per se. That would be unfair to the genuine folk who drive their cars to and from the track. Andy and Kev, cheers :) Hi Matt, yes indeed it's been a long time. That was good fun you and I competing in grudge stylee to see who would be the first to nip a 12 ;D you with your turbo 1915 T1 or me with my NA 2276 T1. I'm doing ok thanks. Been outta the racing scene for the last 6 years partly due to financial struggles and partly a very very long wait for a new motor to get built. But hey ho, I shall be racing my 2332 IDA motor'd '57 Oval at Drag Day, so we'll catch up and 2012 is my 1st season back behind the wheel in a new car for me so need to learn how to drive again !! Mate I like and respect your ethos on road car / race car as I am one of those folk who drives to the track races and hopefully drives home again. Cool. uhh ohh a "back in the day" post :D didnt realise you guys were that old :D :D :D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 05, 2012, 22:26:55 pm 'Fraid so... Duffer central, population me ;D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Shane Noone on March 05, 2012, 23:01:00 pm 'Fraid so... Duffer central, population me ;D And me ;) ;D Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: dannyboy on March 05, 2012, 23:16:38 pm :D
Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Neil Davies on March 06, 2012, 11:18:23 am 'Fraid so... Duffer central, population me ;D And me ;) ;D I'm not quite there, just on the outskirts, but I remember both cars well! Changing subject back to an earlier photo, Matt, do you run a belly pan under the front? Does it make a difference to the handling? Title: Re: All Torque - 1956 Oval Turbo Racecar Work in Progress... Post by: Fasterbrit on March 06, 2012, 14:35:29 pm Hi Neil
Yes I run a belly pan. The front end is super stable. Can't say what it's like without the belly pan, as it's always been part of the design ;) One thing that really helped stability is the rear wing I made - it is a night and day difference ;) Cheers, Keeno |