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Title: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Jon on December 18, 2008, 23:00:54 pm Since the late eighties this set of mysterious wheels have been stirring up discussions all around Scandinavia.
They are not Sears Raders OR regular Raders, so what the heck are they? Ever seen anything like them? (http://www.vwnorge.no/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1244.0;attach=36745;image) The car was built by Trond Dahl (not that Trond Dahl) an he was also the one that had them widened. Any ideas?? Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Jim Ratto on December 18, 2008, 23:04:42 pm I like that car.
Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Rocket-Racing on December 18, 2008, 23:05:41 pm For comparison, here they are compared to a Sears Rader. The differences are many..
Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: speedwell on December 18, 2008, 23:19:56 pm i remember the car she was featuring in super vw n°46
it look like a cragar wheels with 5 x205 stud ::) ::) Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: SteveW on December 18, 2008, 23:37:39 pm I was going to say they look like an Astro wheel but maybe not
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/423507.jpg) Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Lee.C on December 19, 2008, 01:12:17 am maybe some kinda prototype :-\ or maybe someone had a BIG lathe and a milling machine at home ;) :)
Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Neil Davies on December 19, 2008, 09:13:32 am Are they a Sears Rader that had the centre crack out, and then get welded up? I've seen a few with the centre hole damaged. Once they're welded you could machine them to that shape.
Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Jon on December 19, 2008, 09:17:43 am Neal, check the with of the fat end of the spokes, they are way fatter that the Sears. And the centers have never been welded... also the centers are HUGE...
Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: JS on December 19, 2008, 09:20:54 am I also thought that they were Sears wheels who had the center modified in some way, but the "ring" with the bolt holes seem narrower? Optical illusion because of the paint & polish?
Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Jon on December 19, 2008, 09:32:34 am These are the differences I spot i comparison with the sears:
On these the gap between rim and lug nut is the same as between lug nut an center. This shows how big that center is. The center is a pentagon shape without any bullet form. The spokes are wider (fatter) all over. Especially in the widest end were they are easely10 mm wider. The spokes protrude something like 10mm from the lug nut ring where they meet, the Sears are maybe 2-3 mm at this point. The with of the lug nut ring is much narrower And Monkey, they are cast... Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Joe_G on December 19, 2008, 09:35:34 am Maybe a JP wheel in 205?? Are they one piece or bolt in/welded in centres??
Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Jon on December 19, 2008, 10:28:34 am When they were found they were riveted, but it think they were fastened with screws after widening.
JP has been mentioned, but I have never seen a JP wheels made by combining aluminum with steel. And I have yet to find any swede recognizing them... looks more to be a US construction. ??? Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: alex d on December 19, 2008, 12:19:07 pm I have no idea, but they do look coll with those 356B drums behind! (well, I could live without the color matching though)
Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Neil Davies on December 19, 2008, 14:55:53 pm Just looking through an old thread on the samba about 80's customs and found this post by Stu Betty:
Quote from: Backto89 - 2nd Jan 2008 Buggin_74 wrote: backto89 thats like a where are they now of nigel grimshaws book Thing is Buggin 74, most of the pics in Nigel's book were Mike Key's pics and they have been used in Volksworld etc. I have I would say 70% of the cars within the pages of that book are in my display. Im not only gunning for a Back to 89 display Stateside, but also in Europe too. I did start collecting a wish list for Europe for a show like Bug In at Sweden, and had been in contact with Dalhems to help with it. Ironically the car on the front cover in blue was found for me, now painted in grey. Does anyone remember T-111 a green cal looker on radars (when amusingly no one knew what wheels they were?), I have this one also in Norway. The "Raiders" bug, theres a pic in the first ten pages of this thread. Keep the pics coming, that gold plated ghia is the tits. Anyone got pics of Plum Loco? Stu I wonder if Stu has any more information about the car - he seemed pretty sure they were Raders. Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: empicolector on December 19, 2008, 15:12:54 pm I'm rember that car was featured in supervw magazine
they say its rader wheels and at this period this must be the only set in europe Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: Jon on December 19, 2008, 15:26:14 pm The thing is that I "know" the guy that found them, and know the whole story from his side... and he doesn't know more than they were sitting on a Notch from my next town.
But unless they are prototype raders, they are not raders... was MSW in business back then?? ;) Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: John Rayburn on December 20, 2008, 18:24:29 pm Could they be the Raider type wheel that JC Whitney Co. sold back then?
Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: j-f on December 21, 2008, 18:51:12 pm Here is the Super vw 46 report. ;)
It says that Trond really ask how and when those wheels arrive there... Title: Re: Calling the oldboys team, have anyone ever seen these wheels before?? Post by: j-f on December 21, 2008, 18:54:33 pm :)
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