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Title: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: The Ideaman on December 19, 2008, 00:18:37 am
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=711336
If these go at this price,  I'll be most surprised.


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: kafercup on December 19, 2008, 00:48:56 am
Wow, crack pipe indeed!! :o


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: dyno don on December 19, 2008, 02:15:40 am
no guys...you got it all wrong/// just a bad LSD experiment..!!  LOL


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: BigALboski on December 19, 2008, 06:05:33 am
I agree... LSD trips... he must be having a relapse  ::)


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: vwxtc4free on December 19, 2008, 08:47:04 am
"This is the set to get in the magazine, you know it." lol ,lol!!!

If that is your goal maybe you should buy the flat4 repro's and use the rest to bribe some one at the mags.Then you still have some left to pack your pipe with. ;D


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: Christoph on December 19, 2008, 11:48:00 am
at least they are chromed:
http://www.bugnet.de/markt/marktbild.pl?73837


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: ESH on December 19, 2008, 12:19:35 pm
I was keeping an eye open on The Samba for a pair a while back and I'm sure I remember seeing sets of four (4.5 & 6 x 15s) advertised at $4K. I'd be surprised if they sold at that though.



Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on December 19, 2008, 12:37:43 pm
better score some lines before i buy those  :o :o :o


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: Sarge on December 19, 2008, 14:53:59 pm

...."If that is your goal maybe you should buy the flat4 repro's and use the rest to bribe some one at the mags."


Now your thinkin'! ;D


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: roland on December 19, 2008, 16:24:04 pm
this is nuts.. I just got 4 deep '6 and 2 5.5 for much less than the half of that price... ::)


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 20, 2008, 22:21:23 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270320344937&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123&viewitem=


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: bilboa2 on December 21, 2008, 00:24:37 am
when did 5.5's get so pricey? When i bought my set (4) for my ghia, 350.00, no one wanted them, back then...i guess the off set with easier fender clearance issues are making them more desirable??..dam...bill


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: lawrence on December 21, 2008, 19:37:01 pm
thesamba is notorious for overinflated prices and the fuchs wheel is one of many things usually over priced. I would not call those wheels rare at all, but they are cool and desireable. Some people ask for rediculous amounts of money because they know someone will hand the cash over. I don't ever recall seeing a correctly refinished set for sale on thesamba. Anyone ??? What was the asking price.


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: j-f on December 21, 2008, 20:21:20 pm
As I'm looking for a set of late 6*15, how much do you think I should pay for?  ???
it's very difficult to know what's the right prices as everything in our hobby seems to reach ridiculous prices  :-\


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: rick m on December 22, 2008, 07:16:47 am
All of the prices for FUCHS lately has been stupid.  I sold complete sets of (2) 15 x 5.5 and (2) 15 x 6 early FUCHS a couple years back for $1100 and felt it was reasonable. The had been completely redone by Al REED with the polished face and lip and black background. The prices now are simply rediculous.  You can still find the wheels and still get them redone for half what the post LUKE posted is requesting.

Rick M


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: bugnut68 on December 23, 2008, 00:01:24 am
All of the prices for FUCHS lately has been stupid.  I sold complete sets of (2) 15 x 5.5 and (2) 15 x 6 early FUCHS a couple years back for $1100 and felt it was reasonable. The had been completely redone by Al REED with the polished face and lip and black background. The prices now are simply rediculous.  You can still find the wheels and still get them redone for half what the post LUKE posted is requesting.

Rick M

I agree... I disagree with a lot of prices that are being thrown out there for what are, essentially, and literally, used parts.  Hurst shifters are going for stupid amounts of money these days.  It's one thing if they're NOS in the box, but a nice Hurst going used for $100 plus to me is kind of weak.  Not worth it to me to be "period correct."  ::)


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 23, 2008, 02:08:28 am
All of the prices for FUCHS lately has been stupid.  I sold complete sets of (2) 15 x 5.5 and (2) 15 x 6 early FUCHS a couple years back for $1100 and felt it was reasonable. The had been completely redone by Al REED with the polished face and lip and black background. The prices now are simply rediculous.  You can still find the wheels and still get them redone for half what the post LUKE posted is requesting.

Rick M

I agree... I disagree with a lot of prices that are being thrown out there for what are, essentially, and literally, used parts.  Hurst shifters are going for stupid amounts of money these days.  It's one thing if they're NOS in the box, but a nice Hurst going used for $100 plus to me is kind of weak.  Not worth it to me to be "period correct."  ::)


I think $100 is totally fair for a quality shifter. If you don't, then just go to Berg's and buy one of theirs. Talk about sticker shock...


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: bugnut68 on December 23, 2008, 02:11:16 am
All of the prices for FUCHS lately has been stupid.  I sold complete sets of (2) 15 x 5.5 and (2) 15 x 6 early FUCHS a couple years back for $1100 and felt it was reasonable. The had been completely redone by Al REED with the polished face and lip and black background. The prices now are simply rediculous.  You can still find the wheels and still get them redone for half what the post LUKE posted is requesting.

Rick M

I agree... I disagree with a lot of prices that are being thrown out there for what are, essentially, and literally, used parts.  Hurst shifters are going for stupid amounts of money these days.  It's one thing if they're NOS in the box, but a nice Hurst going used for $100 plus to me is kind of weak.  Not worth it to me to be "period correct."  ::)


I think $100 is totally fair for a quality shifter. If you don't, then just go to Berg's and buy one of theirs. Talk about sticker shock...

Yeah, in retrospect, Zach, I think $100 isn't terribly bad... though they were like $60 brand new.  I've just seen some guys marking them up to like $150 and $200, which I think is absurd.  I do realize something is only worth what someone pays for it, it's just a lot of parts are slipping farther and farther out of reach for me.  Lol. 

I wouldn't think that Hursts would be all that hard to find, considering how long they made them for (at least 20 years, last I could estimate, late '60s until mid to late '80s)?


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: rick m on December 23, 2008, 04:41:12 am
To me...BERGS parts are worth every penny.  I've bought, owned, used and even sold some of my BERG parts and they performed for years.  Quality is not cheap and cheap crap is usually not quality. So, you get what you pay for. The problem today is CRAP is not cheap anymore.

RM


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: javabug on December 23, 2008, 15:43:05 pm
I wouldn't think that Hursts would be all that hard to find...

Hursts aren't all that hard to find, but to get one for a decent price you just need to do some patient searching.  If you need to have one tomorrow, then you have to go on thesamba.com and pay the "Samba price".  Same thing with lots of other stuff.

Enjoy the hunt!


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 23, 2008, 15:49:43 pm
Enjoy the hunt!

That's part of the fun!


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: Cornpanzer on December 23, 2008, 16:07:27 pm
at least they are chromed:
http://www.bugnet.de/markt/marktbild.pl?73837


Since chroming ruins the wheel, that would make them worth less!


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: Cornpanzer on December 23, 2008, 16:14:40 pm
All of the prices for FUCHS lately has been stupid.  I sold complete sets of (2) 15 x 5.5 and (2) 15 x 6 early FUCHS a couple years back for $1100 and felt it was reasonable. The had been completely redone by Al REED with the polished face and lip and black background. The prices now are simply rediculous.  You can still find the wheels and still get them redone for half what the post LUKE posted is requesting.

Rick M

Rick, I know the feeling.  I walked away from a 15x6 deep at the 03 Classic for $150.  It lay there all day until someone finaly bought it.  Boy I could kick myself now.  ::)
Times have changed though.  While $3500 is pretty salty, these wheels are getting gobbled up by VW guys and the early 911 guys and $400 each for an unrestored 15x6 seems to be market value.  Add another $300 each to have them properly restored (stripped, anodized, painted)by Harvey Weidman (plus a 1 year lead time) and you are looking at another $1200.  Thats $2800 plus a year or more for resto. 

So, being devils advocate,  I would say that if you needed a set right away, $3000 or a little more, would be a reasonable cost.  This is of course assuming that they were "properly restored" which the wheels in question are not.   I'm not saying I like it...but that seems to be the market.


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 23, 2008, 16:36:53 pm
Rick, I know the feeling.  I walked away from a 15x6 deep at the 03 Classic for $150.  It lay there all day until someone finaly bought it.  Boy I could kick myself now.  ::)
Times have changed though.

About the same time period, but at a HotVWs Drag Day, I walked away from a 15x4.5, only asking $300 which was the current market value. I think it sat there all day, too :P

PS: I blame Luke for talking me out of it!!! Go figure! :D


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: dougmische on December 23, 2008, 17:45:47 pm

Rick, I know the feeling.  I walked away from a 15x6 deep at the 03 Classic for $150.  It lay there all day until someone finaly bought it.  Boy I could kick myself now.  ::)
Times have changed though.  While $3500 is pretty salty, these wheels are getting gobbled up by VW guys and the early 911 guys and $400 each for an unrestored 15x6 seems to be market value.  Add another $300 each to have them properly restored (stripped, anodized, painted)by Harvey Weidman (plus a 1 year lead time) and you are looking at another $1200.  Thats $2800 plus a year or more for resto. 

So, being devils advocate,  I would say that if you needed a set right away, $3000 or a little more, would be a reasonable cost.  This is of course assuming that they were "properly restored" which the wheels in question are not.   I'm not saying I like it...but that seems to be the market.

I'm feeling pretty good about the (3) 15x6's and the (2) 15x7's I found for the Ghia.  I'm in them for $1100.  In the old days I'd have spent roughly half that, so that's not too bad.  Still haven't braved the call to Al to find out how much refinishing will be...


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: Zach Gomulka on December 23, 2008, 17:49:19 pm

Rick, I know the feeling.  I walked away from a 15x6 deep at the 03 Classic for $150.  It lay there all day until someone finaly bought it.  Boy I could kick myself now.  ::)
Times have changed though.  While $3500 is pretty salty, these wheels are getting gobbled up by VW guys and the early 911 guys and $400 each for an unrestored 15x6 seems to be market value.  Add another $300 each to have them properly restored (stripped, anodized, painted)by Harvey Weidman (plus a 1 year lead time) and you are looking at another $1200.  Thats $2800 plus a year or more for resto. 

So, being devils advocate,  I would say that if you needed a set right away, $3000 or a little more, would be a reasonable cost.  This is of course assuming that they were "properly restored" which the wheels in question are not.   I'm not saying I like it...but that seems to be the market.

I'm feeling pretty good about the (3) 15x6's and the (2) 15x7's I found for the Ghia.  I'm in them for $1100.  In the old days I'd have spent roughly half that, so that's not too bad.  Still haven't braved the call to Al to find out how much refinishing will be...

We just got a set of cookie cutters polished and powdercoated for $50 a wheel from Al...


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: dougmische on December 23, 2008, 17:51:29 pm


We just got a set of cookie cutters polished and powdercoated for $50 a wheel from Al...

Really?   Now I'm feeling good about that too!  Thanks, Zach.  Maybe I'll be able to afford tires soon then too.   8)


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: Cornpanzer on December 23, 2008, 17:58:09 pm
Yes, but you are using the 71 and later "flat 6's" for the Ghia, right Doug?  Big difference in cost.
 
BTW - Sorry those wheels I was trying to get for you didnt work out...the guy flaked out on me and I didnt get the car.

If you want a polish and paint treatment, Al Reed is the man.  If you are looking for concours quality resto (anodizing and painting) Harvey Weidman is your guy.  Most of us Cal-Look guys go with the polish look though.


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: dougmische on December 23, 2008, 18:06:42 pm
Yes, but you are using the 71 and later "flat 6's" for the Ghia, right Doug?  Big difference in cost.
 
BTW - Sorry those wheels I was trying to get for you didnt work out...the guy flaked out on me and I didnt get the car.

If you want a polish and paint treatment, Al Reed is the man.  If you are looking for concours quality resto (anodizing and painting) Harvey Weidman is your guy.  Most of us Cal-Look guys go with the polish look though.

Check.  Yes, I like the late look better.  No worries about the wheel deal; had a feeling that wasn't gonna go, judging from your eloquent commentary about said individual.

I may need a 2nd set of wheels, because I really like both polished and anodized looks, and I can't decide which to go with...  The old man within is screaming "LOW MAINTENANCE" but the kid likes the way the light reflects off the polished spokes. 

What to do, what to do...


Title: Re: Step away from the crack pipe!!!
Post by: javabug on December 23, 2008, 18:14:42 pm
Add another $300 each to have them properly restored (stripped, anodized, painted)by Harvey Weidman (plus a 1 year lead time) and you are looking at another $1200.

I don't know what is worse, the cost or the wait?  They both suck!