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OK Guys heads up for the VW Gasser Garage Big news in 2009, we are putting together an underdog 2 replica with a quick ass 300plus BHP normally asperated engine built by Ron Fleming, the last few months have been spent discussing the finner points of the project and now we are ready to go..... well sort of.

I need to find the following first " a donor car"

Watch this space.......

better watch out boom boom ;D

Michael

Holy crap!
I cannot believe this, Russell you are a leg end keep bringing us these cool cars. What year donor do you need?

It OK Michael i have already had a chat with Russell about next year.

I think we are going to have to wait and see. He got more than just this car on the go.

But he did say he was going to kick my ass next year. :o ;D

WTF  :o

some picture jim send me some time  ago ;)

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and more from the dog :o

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 :o ;D

Looks like a 62-64 with a 65-66 rear lid. Get cracking ;)

cool idea russel

Sorry Zach but I believe the body may be earlier say 58 -> 60 or at least the doors are as they have ice pick style door pull handles ,also I think the slightly smaller rear window seen here on the Underdog was enlarged on post 61 cars .
I like the bobbed wings where they would have joined the running boards . The deck lid shouldn't be a problem as I seem to recall seeing that some place  ;)

i'm with zack 61->64

another  links  ;) http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,3231.msg42771/topicseen.html#msg42771 (http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,3231.msg42771/topicseen.html#msg42771)

cool, nice one mr ritchie 8)

may be sarge can help us   ::)

Guys

Its a 61-64 and from my home work it was a 64, the decklid is currently on its way to the VW Gasser Garage World Head Quarters (named by Kev'd)  as we will build the car around that !!!! a bit like UD1 built round the door !

The pictures make it look weird but we have checked and the door handles can be swaped, anyway like all cars it had changes over time and we will grap a point that suits us, loving the blue BRM's.

Looks like a donnor car has been confirmed and I will show you some picts of the stripdown over the next 3-4 weeks, Ive now now booked the paintshgop for first week in Feb 09.  A bit slower than my other projects but Im sure we will make up time nearer June !!!

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Hope you ad the DDS lettering as in the shot off the body resting behind the shop...

have you noticed that underdog had a buggy bar at the rear and after a small T for wheelie bar

My question was whether you were going to pick that time as the starting point.

Well to be honest it really is hard to judge an old racecar like that, I should have looked at the doors as those are a little less likely to be changed than the tail lights. So if the doors are original to the car it is probably a '58, maybe an early '59. The rear window was the same size from '58-'64. In either case, any 58-64 body will do because it's just a racer, just have the proper (mis matched) doors and tail lights ;)

hope you don't start this one with a clean original paint car but with an incomplete shell just like they had the common sense to do back then...  ::)

Roland

Not sure if you mean i dont have common sense  :( but heres a reply for you.

They were unlucky that the UD1 was crashed but they were lucky that they reused the pan, and running gear, engine etc. However with the hard work that we put into the UD1 replica it would be a waste to strip it for UD2 !!!

So we will use a clean car that hopefully requires no welding !!! the bug bear of any project. original paint ? well if thats what it has so be it, but its likely that it will have been repainted at some time in its life......

It comes down to money and tme what we start with, we have a very little time, however we do have money to get a really good solid shell and this will save us in the long run both time and money on repairs.... why bother.

Now back to your post the only reason that they had spare shells in those days was because everyone was taking them off and turning the pans in to beach buggys, how wasteful.

heres another example closer to home your Car, is wonderfull and done to a very high standard, I too have done this before with full quaters etc but its alot of work and takes alot of time to do it right as Im sure you know, and too be honest the new steel is not as good as the older thicker stuff, so as i only have 6 months Ill start with the best start possible and save time and money on repairs. However as with the relpicas Ive done and am starting the car could always go back to standard if required, at least Im not welding up orignal bonnets just for the smooth look !!!

Dont really want tgo start a rant with you, I love the old gassers and think that the replicas are good fun thats all, people turn early splits into rat looks and they ruin these old cars, Bob at BBT messesd with the Heb !!! these are the cars that should be moaned about not 1 poor little 64 bug thats about to kick ass and be raced like never before,

also it will make an old man Ron Flemings dreams come true and with the support the EBI crew have had from him (your fellow club members you should be delighted)
When he turns up with more americans from the hay day and they totally love the feel and the racing its great to know that i maybe helped put the smiles there.

Anyway looking forward to posting pictures of the car now as Im sure it will upset a few others but W.G.A.F.

SORRY  ;D

Roland come on dude we all know it better to start with a good car that needs no welding. As Russell has said it save time but you are right Russell has got no common sense. ;D

Fair point roland, now if you could just point the rest of us to that supply of good solid dumped bodyshells that you know about we`ll get cracking ;)
 

Just saying that the base you used for underdog 1 replica was a really sweet car that i'd have loved to drive just as it was and it made me really sad when you tore it apart and painted it orange...

My point being you could save wrecks to make those replicas and let the "survivors" car be. Now of course it's easier to buy a solid car, but if we'd do only easy stuff, where would the fun be, right?

So i know that I can't say or do anything that will change your mind, it's just my own 2 cents...

and for the hoodriders don't try to legitimate what you do by telling that people are doing worst things. I moan about hoodride splits and BBT's heb and a LOT of other things :)

The sweet car was one very sad worn out 65 bug for a $ 2000.00 and turned it into a replica racer .

You dont seem to grasp the subject and if you saw the 65 (UD1) you would see that i invested in that car.

If you dont like what i do fine send me a PM but dont wreck a post with some stupid comments.

PM sent.

Heres the donor car !

I alway wondered about the graphics on UD2 are they supposed to resemble anything or are they just art designs?? They are really unique!

Rob.

Yeah, they resemble the kind of patterns you see when you drop a tab of acid. Allegedly. :D

Nice one Mr Ritchie, another cool replica. What about a `Here comes da bug too ` chop rep. You could really go to town on that. All the best and happy new year from sunny North Wales. Lyndon.

Lyndon ? with the old sea blue 66, met you in SPA or France ??? Same Guy ?

Oh and did you not have a white 1303 ??? Im sure its you....

Hi , i met you in the Volksworld show years ago when you asked me for a spanner .You where trying to start the flip body v8 monster. Yes i did have a sea blue looker on gold ercos and a 1303 at one time, but now have seen the light and cruise in an oval now. 
     Having said that i do fancy a new project, if i kept the 64 i had ideas of stripping it down ,roof chopping it and calling it `The Mighty Atom !  You still work on oil platforms mate?

heres some of the strip down.....

quite fresh for a 45 yer old car eh ?

PS I almost forgot a massive thanks to Kev'D for help in getting it stripped so quickly, your a top bloke Kev despite what Martin, Wray and Fastbrit say about you.  :D

nice solid car,think it was better as a resto cal though :o :D

happy new year to all you Sweatys up there :)

cheers richie 

very clean car, that help for a faster and better working

 :( original black 64???  >:(

i like what you do, and you have the money to do it right, where most people can only dream
and building cars, the younger generations never got to see first time round!

but where do you find these once, original cars!!???

thesamba.com
oldbug.com
and
larry Mckennzie (dot nothing)

 :-X ;) :)

Cheers mate... ;)

Hope you`ve got plenty of room in the suitcase when you come home ;D

Looking good, who´s doing the graphics? Paintbox?

no ...................jim sibley  ;D ;D ;D

Once we tidied up the mess that Kev'd (d = dickhead) left at the VW Gasser Garage International Headquaters, put all the tools back and fixed the ramp "Thanks Kev", myself and Wray stripped the pan and its now going to the blasters tomorrow for full blast, prep and a new rubber paint application, trying to make underneath very shinny for the pictures at EBI3  ;D

You tidied up and put all the tools back,dont believe a word of it,you mean you put the big hammer away dont you :D

cheers richie

Russell You need to Stop Buying all the Good VW here in the US You Are Making it Hard for me to Find Another Good Project Car LOL  They are all going to Scottland  ;D ;D ;D So Are You Putting The BRMs you Bought from Berg On the Underdog II ??  ;D ;D ;D ;

You going to put a very shinny underneath on the car.

Why that then you not going to roll it are you. :D

.... only after geting them back from the paintshop with a coat of blue paint!  ;)

great idea buy the last know set of NOS BRM's and paint them blue....... you must thick in stupid.

No im going to take Arnie's ones from his DKP1 car and paint them blue and fit a new set of MWS replicas to it, will save me time polishing  :D

I wouldn't guarantee it, the laquer will flake off first ;D

I don't think that's the only NOS set Dee has, just the only set for sale ;)

He's joking guys :o :D

cheers richie

thats wicked, planning on going to EBI this year hope to see it there  ;D

hey Russell no more excuses for this weekend
the front axle is travelling
is looking for a car in Scotland LOL
have fun with it

Gunter

it maybe just a coincidence but back in the '90's i bought 4 genuine brms from randy ingersoll in palm springs, when i stripped the old paint off  2 had that same shade of metallic blue , could be the original wheels from the underdog 2...

andy

Body at blasters today getting the underside cleanned, now for the painters on Monday....

more

more

and finally !

You want to cut out those side trays in teh engine compartment now,the engine is never going to fit with those in the way ;)

cheers richie

the pan in black platic coat.....far better than powder coat i used before

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Russell you should have took off the jacking points think of the weight. :D ;D

dont need any less weight to beat you, so EBI 3 RR vrs BB (aka Zippy)

Sorry RR can not do EBI3 so it looks like you got to wait till SCC for me to beat you. ;D

Hi Russel,

What's the kind of coat do you use on the pan? A plastic coating?

Looks really nice Russell.

Very nice, looking forward to seeing it in paint.  :)

Plascoat PPA 571

www.plascoat.com

RAL 9005

It's the special wipe-clean finish for over-excited drivers. ;)

or if the wheelie is a little to high and you get scared!  :o

Just back from the Paintbox.... getting on well almost ready for paint.....  ;D

Keep up the good work, Simon, Shane and Bob, oh and thanks for the tea (and beer)

Looking Good Russel.

Mags

Can't wait to see this one!

With that colour primer it looks as if you have some kind of 90's thing going on! Looks to be going nicely but then again I guess you'd expect nothing less from the Paintbox crew. We have some good guys for this stuff in the UK.

:)

looking good russel, i saw it last weekend when i popped into the paintbox for tea & doughnuts before the primer was laid on, im sure its gonna look awesome :o

not long too go now, just a little snapshot or two to get you all talking.......

Ok, Guys thats them all, if you want to see the finshed car go to EBI3. More Pics will be posted after EBI3

My hat off to you dude  ;) :) I think there might be a little something for this to race against at EBI3 :-X ;) :)

Incredible work.

wow lookin good  8) 8) 8)

That just looks awesome!

Incredible God job dude !!!!

Amazing!

Great job!

whaw.......looks AWESOME    :o

hey Russell
wheels have arrived at Paintbox place
looking good

Gunter ;D

Looking forward to seeing it, great work

what can i say ???
amazing  :o :o , marvellous  8) 8) , incredible , i'm hurry to see the car
good job guys 8)

russell question , will you go with the buggy bar or the little  "t/wheelie bars"  ::) ::)

 :o awesome mr ritchie 8)

Well Just helped Russell unload the painted car tonight and all i can say is wow  :o

Roll on EBI 3 as can't wait to see this go up the strip.

Wray

Ill look forward to pulling it back again , as I've had a couple of quad bike lesson's now  ;)

OK, heres a couple of spycam shots !!!!

ENJOY.

awesome i hope she will be finish to ebi 3  :o :o

rgd
fabs

Looks good,hope to see it for real.  ;)

Cool love the bobbed rear valence and fenders  8)

i like that!  ;D

 :o :o

That looks just frickin awesome!

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 :o perfect !

Excellent, always good to hear stories form the old days.

  Awesome news Thanks John.

Very nice!

Fantastic! Great Job!

Now you can get started on the old white Type 2 they used to tow the race car with   :D :D