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Title: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: louisb on January 07, 2009, 17:14:50 pm
So are Porsche headlight covers on early cars considered passé? Is it cal-look? You used to see them all the time but not anymore.

Just a random thought I had looking back through some old magazines.

--louis


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on January 07, 2009, 18:35:16 pm
They were more of a fade  the problem was if you used porsche lenses with an H4 headight the beam was all over the place because both were fluted but I think they look Bitchen


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Jim Ratto on January 07, 2009, 18:46:34 pm
louisb, there are two version available, the H1 and the H4. Most of the guys I knew ran the H4's I think, and they look nice on the right car. My friend Javier ran them on his very Cal Look 1954 sedan in 1992.
I still prefer the plain, flat glass covers that seemed to be in vogue in the mid 70's-mid 80's
Like Pete's Dragon ran.

The H1 part number is 911 631 111 00 (or Bosch 1 305 614 010)
H4: 911 631 927 00 (Bosch 1 305 614 005)



Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: louisb on January 07, 2009, 19:11:04 pm
They were more of a fade  the problem was if you used porsche lenses with an H4 headight the beam was all over the place because both were fluted but I think they look Bitchen

Yeah, I have heard that you run into the same problems with the Euro style fluted lenses.


I still prefer the plain, flat glass covers that seemed to be in vogue in the mid 70's-mid 80's



You talking about the flat plexi covers?

--louis


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Rennsurfer on January 08, 2009, 08:10:43 am
Louis, I ran the early Euro 911 lenses on my '66. using the H1 first and later... the H4 buckets. Both worked fine for me. I really liked my glass lenses because they didn't have the usual dimples on the top facing portion. They were simply clear. Rayburn probably remembers when I had those on the car.
My childhood friend, Jim, sent 'em to me when he was living in Germany during all of the '80s.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Cornpanzer on January 08, 2009, 14:57:22 pm
FWIW, H1 parts have become quite spendy, so if anyone has buckets, bezels or the long springy adjustment screws, they are worth good money!


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: team97 on January 08, 2009, 15:45:54 pm
A cheaper way to do redirect the light is to use H4 beams and break out the glass, then the reflected light passes through the 911 lens just like the H1's. I did this on my 54' convertable and my current 64'

Glenn


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: rick m on January 08, 2009, 23:52:27 pm
I have the Porsche lenses on my 66 chop. I do not have all the light scatter issues everyone is referring to. They are great on low or high beam.\

Rick M


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: JS on January 09, 2009, 00:35:07 am
I have them on my ´58.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Rennsurfer on January 09, 2009, 00:44:59 am
A cheaper way to do redirect the light is to use H4 beams and break out the glass, then the reflected light passes through the 911 lens just like the H1's. I did this on my 54' convertable and my current 64'

Yep! A very effective and cheap way to go. I did that to mine after I took out the H1 setup. I've always wanted to experiment & see if using a heat gun or some other method would deactivate the glue/cement that fastens the lens to the H4 reflector. If not... the ol' hammer smash-up way works, as many of us already know.

Louis, if you ended getting the 911 lenses, please post up some pics.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: louisb on January 09, 2009, 01:03:10 am
Louis, if you ended getting the 911 lenses, please post up some pics.[/b]

My post was more out of curiosity than anything. I don't even have a car to put them on yet. (Though I am looking at a '66 in Phoenix.) For a while though it seemed like every car had them and then they disappeared off the scene. Personally I tend to lean towards the fluted euro style lenses myself.

--louis


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Rennsurfer on January 09, 2009, 05:11:13 am
Right on, Louis... good luck with whatever you end up with.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Hotrodvw on January 10, 2009, 04:59:27 am
I was looking at getting some also, but run the H4's.  The double fluting had me turned off, and not sure if i want to take the hammer to them quite yet.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: ESH on January 10, 2009, 12:15:04 pm
... not sure if i want to take the hammer to them quite yet ...

Now that sounds like fun!  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/SanchoPancho/General/Photo-TheThing-OldDroppersForum.jpg)





Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Hotrodvw on January 10, 2009, 20:12:29 pm
... not sure if i want to take the hammer to them quite yet ...

Now that sounds like fun!  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/SanchoPancho/General/Photo-TheThing-OldDroppersForum.jpg)





Damn that thing is nice!  I rella dig those lenses, and don't even care if they're plastic.  I wonder if a glass shop could do it in a clean fashion.   :)


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: ESH on January 11, 2009, 20:38:52 pm
... Damn that thing is nice!  I rella dig those lenses, and don't even care if they're plastic.  I wonder if a glass shop could do it in a clean fashion ...

I may need some as I keep losing them to stones. I did two within 200 miles of each other a year or so back!  ::)


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: benssp on January 11, 2009, 21:06:06 pm
getting rid of the 'double fluting' is easy, just cut the lens off the bean unit or fit european reflectors, mine were h4 semi sealed units with the lens cut off ;D


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Rennsurfer on January 12, 2009, 07:40:38 am
Sorry... but had to see this car, again.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/SanchoPancho/General/Photo-TheThing-OldDroppersForum.jpg)

Good lookin' ride!


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: ESH on January 12, 2009, 10:39:08 am
... Sorry... but had to see this car, again ... Good lookin' ride ...

I've got round to liking it quite a bit too. That shot was taken* on the Sunday at Das Drag Day IV and for a bunch of reasons that was pretty much the best day I've had with the car. That's not to say there haven't been a lot of other good times with it but that was an especially good one.

:)

*The photo was taken by The Thing on the Old Droppers forum


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: von-dart on January 12, 2009, 19:18:02 pm
getting rid of the 'double fluting' is easy, just cut the lens off the bean unit or fit european reflectors, mine were h4 semi sealed units with the lens cut off ;D
hello everyone!!
does anyone know if the 'double fluting' is street legal?.  ie would it pass a uk  m.o.t?
cheers   ;)


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: benssp on January 12, 2009, 20:32:18 pm
getting rid of the 'double fluting' is easy, just cut the lens off the bean unit or fit european reflectors, mine were h4 semi sealed units with the lens cut off ;D
hello everyone!!
does anyone know if the 'double fluting' is street legal?.  ie would it pass a uk  m.o.t?
cheers   ;)

probably not, you won't get a defined beam pattern, just ditch the inner lens, it's not needed with european/porsche lenses, just make sure they are for left hand traffic/right hand drive ;D


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: von-dart on January 12, 2009, 20:40:03 pm
cheers for that. :)


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: peach_ on January 13, 2009, 20:29:12 pm
This might sound really stupid, but can you just use a porsche lens and the vw "Guts" ?

cheers


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Hotrodvw on January 13, 2009, 20:45:31 pm
Peach............I think that's what they're saying.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: peach_ on January 13, 2009, 20:52:27 pm
Peach............I think that's what they're saying.

 :D oops  ::) :-[


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: WhiteTrash on January 13, 2009, 23:23:45 pm
... Sorry... but had to see this car, again ... Good lookin' ride ...

I've got round to liking it quite a bit too. That shot was taken* on the Sunday at Das Drag Day IV and for a bunch of reasons that was pretty much the best day I've had with the car. That's not to say there haven't been a lot of other good times with it but that was an especially good one.

:)

*The photo was taken by The Thing on the Old Droppers forum

White Bugs 8) 8) 8)

Could it be that this had something to do with it? ;D ;D ;D
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k148/autobutcher/TwoWhiteBugs.jpg)

Frank


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: peach_ on January 13, 2009, 23:51:58 pm
ok i engaged brain and read the whole thread before posting lol :D

So......what is "double fluting"?

And would 1985 lenses still be ok?

cheers


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Rennsurfer on January 14, 2009, 02:06:51 am
This might sound really stupid, but can you just use a porsche lens and the vw "Guts" ?

That's not a stupid question, at all and actually rather valid. Yes, you CAN. My after I changed my H1 setup out for the H4 bulbs, that exactly what I did... used my original 1966 housings, painted VWheadlight rings, a  pair of smashed out Hella H4 headlights, a new set of bezel o-rings, and I was good to go. Now, I wish that I had that set of H1 headlights... they're worth a fortune, these days. Or so my Porsche friends tell me.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Zach Gomulka on January 14, 2009, 02:28:36 am
Think these would look good on a cal looker? Either painted body color...

(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/porsche-911-083-4-46.jpg)

or chrome...

(http://www.pristinemotorsports.com/pristinemotorsports/inv_main/74%20911-10.jpg)

Sorry for the small pics ;)


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: javabug on January 14, 2009, 04:06:08 am
Think these would look good on a cal looker? Either painted body color...

Funny you should ask...I just saw this car over on theSamba:

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/495731.jpg)
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/495718.jpg)

I don't know anything about it other than its in Florida, and I think its pretty good looking.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Rennsurfer on January 14, 2009, 04:16:29 am
Interesting... I've always wondered what those rings would look like on early front fenders. They'd look better painted on that black car. Not a bad lookin' car, though.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: peach_ on January 14, 2009, 10:27:07 am
They Make it look like there up-right wings, even 67'sh  :-\..........not sure.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: peach_ on January 14, 2009, 10:31:30 am
This might sound really stupid, but can you just use a porsche lens and the vw "Guts" ?

That's not a stupid question, at all and actually rather valid. Yes, you CAN. My after I changed my H1 setup out for the H4 bulbs, that exactly what I did... used my original 1966 housings, painted VWheadlight rings, a  pair of smashed out Hella H4 headlights, a new set of bezel o-rings, and I was good to go. Now, I wish that I had that set of H1 headlights... they're worth a fortune, these days. Or so my Porsche friends tell me.

Cool cause thats what I think Im gonna do, You can just swap the VW lense for the Porsche one without "smashing" anything up right? just undo the bolts and refit to the orig Vw headlamps?

cheers


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: ESH on January 14, 2009, 10:39:26 am
... Could it be that this had something to do with it ...

You know, I think it could be. Fun times...

 :) 8)


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: von-dart on January 14, 2009, 21:04:56 pm
Cool cause thats what I think Im gonna do, You can just swap the VW lense for the Porsche one without "smashing" anything up right? just undo the bolts and refit to the orig Vw headlamps?

cheers
[/quote]

hello,peach,
yes you can swap the lenses over without smashing anything providing the reflector part,the bit that the bulbs go into,doesn't have the 'beam pattern' glass fixed to it.
if your outer lenses have the pattern on them,like the porsche ones will,then you should be able to do a straight swap.just be careful taking everything apart,those spring clips are lethal!!  :)


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Rennsurfer on January 15, 2009, 02:37:24 am
But let's clarify something... what I was referring to only applies to cars with U.S. spec. headlights. If you have European headlights, all that you need to do is simply swap lenses and you're done. The smashed out H4 lens is for us poor slobs that weren't lucky enough to get Euro lights. Just wanted to set that straight.

Carry on.


Title: Re: Porsche headlight covers
Post by: Neil Davies on January 15, 2009, 11:24:03 am
But let's clarify something... what I was referring to only applies to cars with U.S. spec. headlights. If you have European headlights, all that you need to do is simply swap lenses and you're done. The smashed out H4 lens is for us poor slobs that weren't lucky enough to get Euro lights. Just wanted to set that straight.

Carry on.


I'm glad you said that Mark, I was going to post the same thing! ;D