Title: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on February 17, 2009, 23:50:15 pm My Worst Nightmare.....
I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret.....and Im not allowed to tell..... But WOW WOW WOW....... Sorry I know its a bad post, but i really cant say and i so want too........ :P Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Jim Ratto on February 17, 2009, 23:51:59 pm you're buying Berglar, right?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on February 17, 2009, 23:52:24 pm Nope.
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lids on February 17, 2009, 23:58:13 pm some rare race car has been found?
You know who's coming to EBI? You have discovered there is no Santa Clause? Which one is it? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: IP359 on February 17, 2009, 23:59:09 pm Jim "Sarge" E. is your father and Keith S. your brother ?
;D ;D ;D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: JS on February 18, 2009, 00:03:07 am The Inch Pincher has arrived in Aberdeen?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on February 18, 2009, 00:04:33 am No, No, No, No and NO.
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: TiDi on February 18, 2009, 00:15:18 am Jim "Sarge" E. is your father and Keith S. your brother ? ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Jim Ratto on February 18, 2009, 00:18:06 am Paul is dead?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Diederick/DVK on February 18, 2009, 00:25:29 am macca? ???
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: vwcab on February 18, 2009, 00:34:10 am ??? Give us a hint. :-\
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: nlvtinman on February 18, 2009, 01:41:15 am Buying the VW38 and turning it into a pro mod racer???
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: deano on February 18, 2009, 01:54:43 am Hmm, let's see what's left:
Berg's black '67 racecar Gary's former street car (some assembly required) IP#1 IP#2 Dave Rhoad's green sedan Bill Schwimmer's sedan Sarge's '67 Kris Klingaman's race car Goin' Bananas Mike Smith's '67 (2) BAE turbo sedan (2) KRE's Blackie! (now that's a sleeper deal....) Terry Gordon's G/D Darrell's Vittone's A/MC Dave Andrew's A/MC Bear's B/MC KRE's Hot Sauce Manx Steve Tims' Mean Machine Lightning Bug (chop top and dragster) Holmes/Aronson And you already have everything else..... Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: bilboa2 on February 18, 2009, 03:03:26 am aronson/holmes/bilboa/cristi 63 rag-top.?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Cornpanzer on February 18, 2009, 04:06:10 am Jim "Sarge" E. is your father and Keith S. your sister ? ;D ;D ;D KS has the hair for it! :D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Bill Schwimmer on February 18, 2009, 04:08:49 am I bet Russell is trying to keep his new purchase a secret http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=742522
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: louisb on February 18, 2009, 04:13:33 am KS is going to have his car running for EBI3?
--louis Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Sarge on February 18, 2009, 04:32:11 am KS is going to have his car running for EBI3? --louis The condom's still on the muffler, Louis.... no way ;D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: edcraig on February 18, 2009, 04:44:46 am Stan Davis just got out of prison!
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on February 18, 2009, 05:30:29 am Here is Russells Secret Race Car for EBI3 arrived in Aberdeen last week? LMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://picasaweb.google.com/wheels.wheels/DeathRaceCar# Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: deano on February 18, 2009, 06:44:02 am Shubee, that Death Race car is owned by Mid-America Motorworks in Effingham, Ill. And yes, I forgot all about the Holmes/Aronson/Christie/Bill/_____ ragtop. A sure prize of the collection.
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Geoff P DVKK on February 18, 2009, 06:59:57 am You found Jimmy Hoffa alive and well in a pub in Aberdeen?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on February 18, 2009, 07:15:04 am IP1 ??? Shhh! Even I know where that is... ::)
You just bought Wright Publishing and you are now Deano's new boss; as of tomorrow? ;D :D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on February 18, 2009, 08:33:47 am No to you all but Thanks for the shopping list Dean.
Clue, its nothing to do with me at all (which is a great pity) however its going to turn heads, Big Time.......... and thats that....... Im not worthy, Im not worthy........... Ps, some funny replies ;D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: nicolas on February 18, 2009, 09:04:53 am Russell, i think now is a good time to say this topic is worthless without pics. ;D and you dont need to say anything then.
BTW, Fabs buying your NOS BRMs isn't a secret anymore ;) ;D thanks for keeping us busy Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: IP359 on February 18, 2009, 11:55:49 am I know, I know, I know :
Fabs "Speedwell" is your son ! ;D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: maX cal-look on February 18, 2009, 13:26:49 pm For Fabian, !
Fabian is the son of Dyno and Bill , everybody know that ! :D :D :D (http://www.dynodon.net/images/snapshots/EBI_2/dyno_ebi2_093.jpg) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: vwhelmot on February 18, 2009, 14:31:57 pm Have you found a nos pair of Mr Vittone`s race underpants?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: speedwell on February 18, 2009, 14:36:48 pm underdog II is painted ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: louisb on February 18, 2009, 14:53:24 pm Russel has sold his entire VW collection to someone in Japan and is now going to collect those funny looking little french cars? ;D
--louis Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Neil Davies on February 18, 2009, 14:54:23 pm Stutt Bee is really one of the DDS cars under the cracked black paint? ???
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: IP359 on February 18, 2009, 15:37:14 pm My last chance :
You buy the entire Tak K. collection (Tons of NOS parts and cars)...... Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: IP359 on February 18, 2009, 15:53:22 pm A last, last think :
Anakin Skywalker is your father..... Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: deano on February 18, 2009, 16:07:12 pm No to you all but Thanks for the shopping list Dean. Clue, its nothing to do with me at all (which is a great pity) however its going to turn heads, Big Time.......... and thats that....... Im not worthy, Im not worthy........... Ps, some funny replies ;D Does this have anything to do with a certain chop top that got delivered yesterday to its owners? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: empicolector on February 18, 2009, 16:14:01 pm lightning bug
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Matty c on February 18, 2009, 16:16:43 pm ooh ooh i know i know...................oh, no i dont :'(
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: 71CALRIPPER on February 18, 2009, 16:40:35 pm its always good to see the scene is moving or new/ old things are popping up :)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: louisb on February 18, 2009, 16:49:26 pm new/ old things are popping up :) What ever new/old things that you got popping up I suggest you keep to yourself. --louis Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Jon on February 18, 2009, 16:52:57 pm new/ old things are popping up :) What ever new/old things that you got popping up I suggest you keep to yourself. --louis ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: IP359 on February 18, 2009, 19:01:58 pm No to you all but Thanks for the shopping list Dean. Clue, its nothing to do with me at all (which is a great pity) however its going to turn heads, Big Time.......... and thats that....... Im not worthy, Im not worthy........... Ps, some funny replies ;D Does this have anything to do with a certain chop top that got delivered yesterday to its owners? More seriously, seems to be a real information.... Please could you say more, Deano ? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: JustinCase on February 18, 2009, 19:19:38 pm Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Harry/FDK on February 18, 2009, 19:25:02 pm Russell is starting to buy the Ed "Big Daddy" Roth creatures. Everybody gets a little older.
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: nicolas on February 18, 2009, 19:37:29 pm this was brought to my attention by one off my many
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Martin Greaves on February 18, 2009, 21:30:30 pm I think i know what you are talking about. 8)
Someone here in the UK has put together a shit 70s look a like race car. :D Now who is it and what car is it. ??? ;D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: . on February 18, 2009, 21:31:00 pm I too guess the Schley brothers were able to buy back the Lightning Bug from Puerto Rico.
When will the answer to this post be divulged ? ??? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: JS on February 18, 2009, 23:03:39 pm Is the Lightning Bug deal really a secret? Didn't seem so at EBI...
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lee.C on February 18, 2009, 23:10:01 pm Is the Lightning Bug deal really a secret? Didn't seem so at EBI... Have to agree with JS here - I do have my suspisions though ;) :) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: vwcab on February 19, 2009, 00:49:56 am It is something(car) that will see" the light" :o :o :o at the volksworldshow?
Isn't it? Am I right or am I wrong? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: 58vw on February 19, 2009, 03:36:44 am so how long do we need to be in suspense??? :o
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: deano on February 19, 2009, 05:17:36 am No to you all but Thanks for the shopping list Dean. Clue, its nothing to do with me at all (which is a great pity) however its going to turn heads, Big Time.......... and thats that....... Im not worthy, Im not worthy........... Ps, some funny replies ;D Does this have anything to do with a certain chop top that got delivered yesterday to its owners? More seriously, seems to be a real information.... Please could you say more, Deano ? Here is a hint to my lead..... RF & MH Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Sarge on February 19, 2009, 06:03:21 am Does this have anything to do with a certain chop top that got delivered yesterday to its owners? Here is a hint to my lead..... RF & MH :o Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on February 19, 2009, 06:32:46 am No to you all but Thanks for the shopping list Dean. Clue, its nothing to do with me at all (which is a great pity) however its going to turn heads, Big Time.......... and thats that....... Im not worthy, Im not worthy........... Ps, some funny replies ;D Does this have anything to do with a certain chop top that got delivered yesterday to its owners? More seriously, seems to be a real information.... Please could you say more, Deano ? Here is a hint to my lead..... RF & MH Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: deano on February 19, 2009, 07:13:00 am I know where you are going with that one Steve, but no... Nice idea though.
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lids on February 19, 2009, 08:00:12 am No to you all but Thanks for the shopping list Dean. Clue, its nothing to do with me at all (which is a great pity) however its going to turn heads, Big Time.......... and thats that....... Im not worthy, Im not worthy........... Ps, some funny replies ;D Does this have anything to do with a certain chop top that got delivered yesterday to its owners? More seriously, seems to be a real information.... Please could you say more, Deano ? Here is a hint to my lead..... RF & MH Ron Flemming and Matt Hoffman in partnership!!!! Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on February 19, 2009, 08:07:23 am Clue, its nothing to do with me at all (which is a great pity) however its going to turn heads, Big Time.......... and thats that... Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: BeetleBug on February 19, 2009, 08:52:33 am Clue, its nothing to do with me at all (which is a great pity) however its going to turn heads, Big Time.......... and thats that....... I know I know I know; you have a unpublished, yet-to-be-seen picture of Speedwell`s car? :o Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: flatcat60 on February 19, 2009, 09:00:13 am something to do with thunderbird products race car?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: speedwell on February 19, 2009, 09:00:40 am Clue, its nothing to do with me at all (which is a great pity) however its going to turn heads, Big Time.......... and thats that....... I know I know I know; you have a unpublished, yet-to-be-seen picture of Speedwell`s car? :o Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on February 19, 2009, 09:12:21 am No to you all but Thanks for the shopping list Dean. Clue, its nothing to do with me at all (which is a great pity) however its going to turn heads, Big Time.......... and thats that....... Im not worthy, Im not worthy........... Ps, some funny replies ;D Does this have anything to do with a certain chop top that got delivered yesterday to its owners? More seriously, seems to be a real information.... Please could you say more, Deano ? Here is a hint to my lead..... RF & MH Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lids on February 19, 2009, 09:43:06 am http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=743144
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: simon uk on February 19, 2009, 10:42:00 am thats pretty cool looking (on the link to the samba).
When are we going to be put out of our misery on what is being kept secret? There arent many things left that would get russell excited, so I reckon it is the lightning bug being lined up for purchase. Assuming that IP1 and 2 are lost, and the original dynosaur was destroyed, if Russell (or anyone else) could find and own one more lost drag racer, what would you choose? Also, what is everyones favourite racer from those which have been found? I would choose Blue Obsession cause I saw it at the Paintbox on jacks when I went there a few years ago and it was the greatest thing I had ever seen!!! Si. Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on February 19, 2009, 11:09:37 am NO none of these, however is the Lighting Bug Story true, i know they were trying but didnt relaise a deal had been done, if so this is bigger news.
Anyway its great to see so much interest in my post ;D Please also stop PMing me as i cant say nor do i have proof yet. ;) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Gunter on February 19, 2009, 11:28:35 am My Worst Nightmare..... I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret.....and Im not allowed to tell..... But WOW WOW WOW....... Sorry I know its a bad post, but i really cant say and i so want too........ :P I know of one (Russell I know it will be hard but it is only 6 weeks from now ) ... but I suggest you buy your tickets for the Volksworld show and see it there it will be opposite the CSP boot ... oh Russell it is a great post since I know you have another secret for us lined up no ? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: deano on February 19, 2009, 15:49:17 pm Actually, public records now show that Russell recently purchased the original Deano Dyno-Soars building on Borchard Street, Santa Ana, and is going to have it moved to Scotland (airfreight I believe). One hundred gallons of purple paint to follow.
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: speedwell on February 19, 2009, 16:03:02 pm Actually, public records now show that Russell recently purchased the original Deano Dyno-Soars building on Borchard Street, Santa Ana, and is going to have it moved to Scotland (airfreight I believe). One hundred gallons of purple paint to follow. ;D ;D ;DTitle: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Joe_G on February 19, 2009, 17:01:57 pm ;) ;)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Black Sheep on February 19, 2009, 18:56:13 pm Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lee.C on February 19, 2009, 21:35:47 pm Hmmmmm now I have a few more idea's :-X :)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on February 19, 2009, 21:56:39 pm no you still all wrong........
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Black Sheep on February 19, 2009, 22:03:52 pm no you still all wrong........ Have you thought that we may all know something you don't ;D Sorry but Im sworn to keep my big gob shut :-X Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lee.C on February 20, 2009, 00:20:00 am no you still all wrong........ Have you thought that we may all know something you don't ;D Sorry but Im sworn to keep my big gob shut :-X Good point well put dude :D ;) :) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: bilboa2 on February 20, 2009, 01:15:07 am ok, enough !! cut to the chase...
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on February 20, 2009, 06:40:50 am my brain cells are tweaked. :-X
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: flatfire on February 20, 2009, 09:25:23 am Instead of guessing. I thought the normal procedure was to ask Wray ;D
My guess a 356 ??? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Wray on February 20, 2009, 14:22:17 pm Anyway
Instead of guessing. I thought the normal procedure was to ask Wray ;D My guess a 356 ??? If it's what i seen last Saturday then it's nothing to do with Russell ::) Although he did tell me not to say anything ::) Any way the VF boy's are going to be in Dundee next Saturday for a meeting and a few beers if you want to join us Peter drop me a PM and i'll confirm where and when. Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: deano on February 20, 2009, 15:50:40 pm Here's a guess.... Russell is to debut the former Kid Dean chopped Type 3 Squareback in all its former glory at the Volksworld Show....
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: benssp on February 20, 2009, 15:59:39 pm Makes sense now ;)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: peach_ on February 20, 2009, 16:51:46 pm Its not anything to so with a certain event a Santa pod is it? ;)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: speedwell on February 20, 2009, 16:53:42 pm Here's a guess.... Russell is to debut the former Kid Dean chopped Type 3 Squareback in all its former glory at the Volksworld Show.... ;)Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: benssp on February 20, 2009, 17:04:49 pm Its not anything to so with a certain event a Santa pod is it? ;) Bug Jam? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: peach_ on February 20, 2009, 17:35:31 pm Its not anything to so with a certain event a Santa pod is it? ;) Bug Jam? :D Nope ;) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: vwcab on February 20, 2009, 20:18:37 pm Hej Russell,how long do we have to wait untill the solution? ::)........
days,weeks,month's? (I must say it is an exithing topic ;D ) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Fastbrit on February 20, 2009, 23:18:23 pm ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: deano on February 21, 2009, 01:24:29 am Did you hear that Russel is starting his own VW magazine?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on February 21, 2009, 07:11:43 am After reviewing the last few posts, why am I getting this feeling that the topic has changed? ;D
Lets get back to the original secret. I find it hard to believe this is all about Kid Dean. :-\ Deano, your doing a good job at confusing us! I need a BEER! As a side note: I have a little secret concerning a new car I will be bringing out to this years Classic. :o ::) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on February 21, 2009, 07:18:07 am I just got it! The Original DKP guy is finally debuting The Berglar again. Thanks Russell for telling me! ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: germanvador on February 22, 2009, 10:23:38 am it's the stutt bee ;D ;D ;D ;D , cool for you russell ::)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: peach_ on February 22, 2009, 18:13:28 pm .........................
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: peach_ on February 22, 2009, 18:14:19 pm Ive been to dubfreeze today (1st show/Jumble sale of the year for the Uk), and this is all ppl can talk about,Oh and the First Uk Cal-look Drag day Ever!! on the 17th of May ;), I think its racking everyone's heads loll :D ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lids on February 22, 2009, 18:18:31 pm i know Russell will soon be setting up an engine shop with full facilities! 8)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Rune on February 22, 2009, 21:02:11 pm i know Russell will soon be setting up an engine shop with full facilities! 8) Will it cost ya extra if you want jets in the carbs? jk... Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: axam48ida on February 22, 2009, 22:22:06 pm i know Russell will soon be setting up an engine shop with full facilities! 8) Is he hiring? what a cool job that be! Hey Ray.....thinking about it?Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on February 22, 2009, 23:17:37 pm On the secret your still all wrong but you will know in around 4 weeks ;D
Om the engine Shop, yes i am thanks to lids ;) Lids please show the boys my new toy in a new topic, its just been confirmed. Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Bryan67 on February 26, 2009, 15:29:08 pm Nothing yet?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Neil Davies on February 26, 2009, 16:28:59 pm On the secret your still all wrong but you will know in around 4 weeks ;D That'll be something for the volksworld show then... ;) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: jamiep_jamiep on February 26, 2009, 17:28:05 pm No it takes 4 weeks for the implants to settle down, then the transformation will be complete. Is that it Russelina?
:D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: 71CALRIPPER on February 26, 2009, 17:31:00 pm (http://msp219.photobucket.com/albums/cc233/momndad4ever/us/man-boobs.jpg)
God i sodding hope not.... Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on February 26, 2009, 23:52:55 pm errrrrrrrrr NO.
Its a VW thing.... Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Martin Greaves on February 26, 2009, 23:57:24 pm What as in a 181 ;) ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Speed-Randy on February 27, 2009, 01:51:46 am everybody already knows the engine goes in the back ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lids on February 27, 2009, 07:57:11 am i now feel sick, and rob how much time do you have on your hands to find shit like that!?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on February 27, 2009, 08:53:10 am (http://msp219.photobucket.com/albums/cc233/momndad4ever/us/man-boobs.jpg) MOOBS! :P :P :-XGod i sodding hope not.... Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Rennsurfer on February 27, 2009, 08:57:08 am I just got it! The Original DKP guy is finally debuting The Berglar again. Thanks Russell for telling me! ;D Cripes... I told myself that I wouldn't post on this thread. But THAT'S funny, vdubkid. That or it's April Fool's Day, already. Either way... thanks for the laughs. Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on February 27, 2009, 18:58:47 pm After reviewing the last few posts, why am I getting this feeling that the topic has changed? ;D A Sepia Brown Convert?Lets get back to the original secret. I find it hard to believe this is all about Kid Dean. :-\ Deano, your doing a good job at confusing us! I need a BEER! As a side note: I have a little secret concerning a new car I will be bringing out to this years Classic. :o ::) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on February 27, 2009, 23:32:05 pm where did you hear than one from...... not the answer but not a bad shot in the dark on another little deal...... ;)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Worm on March 03, 2009, 06:35:30 am This thread is totally ridiculous and I cannot believe I just wasted 10 minutes reading through each page to get to nothing. Go back to sleep. What a waste of space.
Boo hoo. I fart in your general direction......... and your mother was a hampster. Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on March 03, 2009, 07:10:10 am Thanks for the warning! I'll take cover.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1sS1TmXF38 Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lanny Hussey on March 03, 2009, 07:43:49 am After reviewing the last few posts, why am I getting this feeling that the topic has changed? ;D A Sepia Brown Convert?Lets get back to the original secret. I find it hard to believe this is all about Kid Dean. :-\ Deano, your doing a good job at confusing us! I need a BEER! As a side note: I have a little secret concerning a new car I will be bringing out to this years Classic. :o ::) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on March 03, 2009, 08:25:01 am After reviewing the last few posts, why am I getting this feeling that the topic has changed? ;D A Sepia Brown Convert?Lets get back to the original secret. I find it hard to believe this is all about Kid Dean. :-\ Deano, your doing a good job at confusing us! I need a BEER! As a side note: I have a little secret concerning a new car I will be bringing out to this years Classic. :o ::) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on March 03, 2009, 08:36:05 am After reviewing the last few posts, why am I getting this feeling that the topic has changed? ;D A Sepia Brown Convert?Lets get back to the original secret. I find it hard to believe this is all about Kid Dean. :-\ Deano, your doing a good job at confusing us! I need a BEER! As a side note: I have a little secret concerning a new car I will be bringing out to this years Classic. :o ::) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on March 03, 2009, 08:39:58 am I just got it! The Original DKP guy is finally debuting The Berglar again. Thanks Russell for telling me! ;D Cripes... I told myself that I wouldn't post on this thread. But THAT'S funny, vdubkid. That or it's April Fool's Day, already. Either way... thanks for the laughs. Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Trond Dahl on March 03, 2009, 13:18:38 pm Im sure Russell started this thread to have you guys guess and by doing that giving him new tips on future purchases, as he was running out of own ideas of what more to buy...
And.. in 4 weeks(as he wrote) on aprils fools day.. the joke is on us who extended his "to buy" list :-D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on March 03, 2009, 21:09:41 pm NO there is a point to this and it will be displayed for all to see this month..... No its not mine.
And Lanny please let me see a pic of the new classic toy, taht way i can bring some change if required ? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Martin Greaves on March 03, 2009, 21:22:11 pm Hey Russell is TAHT a Scottish word if so what does it mean. :D ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Rennsurfer on March 04, 2009, 04:29:56 am This thread is totally ridiculous and I cannot believe I just wasted 10 minutes reading through each page to get to nothing. Go back to sleep. What a waste of space. Boo hoo. I fart in your general direction......... and your mother was a hampster. HAHAHA!!! Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Fastbrit on March 04, 2009, 09:04:50 am I know, I know, I know....
And I'm not saying either... Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Pas on March 04, 2009, 20:42:27 pm I know (I think) ;)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: flatfire on March 04, 2009, 22:11:01 pm A shot in the dark is it blue ???
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Kaferdog on March 08, 2009, 11:35:24 am I can't take the suspense !!...I'm going to bed ...Goodnite !
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on March 08, 2009, 12:43:55 pm Does this have anything to do with Flat 4?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lanny Hussey on March 08, 2009, 17:48:18 pm NO there is a point to this and it will be displayed for all to see this month..... No its not mine. Ich verstehe nicht?And Lanny please let me see a pic of the new classic toy, taht way i can bring some change if required ? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on March 08, 2009, 21:31:12 pm Lanny, Eh ????
tick, tick, tick, not long to go now............ Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Black Sheep on March 08, 2009, 21:38:05 pm Cool only 18 more sleep's and we'll all know for sure ;)
looking forward to catching up with you Russell and all the other like minded nutter's :D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lee.C on March 08, 2009, 23:35:30 pm Cool only 18 more sleep's and we'll all know for sure ;) looking forward to catching up with you Russell and all the other like minded nutter's :D Me too :) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lanny Hussey on March 09, 2009, 00:09:15 am Lanny, Eh ???? Classic toy..change..I'm lost? I know..you want your shirt back.. ;)tick, tick, tick, not long to go now............ Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: peach_ on March 09, 2009, 20:46:13 pm Its not this is it? ???
http://www.vw-online.co.uk/acatalog/Karmann_Konnection_Special_Projects.html (http://www.vw-online.co.uk/acatalog/Karmann_Konnection_Special_Projects.html) Even if im totally, wrong which i prob's am, It still a cool Blog. Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: ESH on March 09, 2009, 20:56:44 pm I didn't realise there was this much interest in the ingredients for a good Haggis. Crazy stuff, it's either that or just another replica of the green car from just off Beach.
:) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on March 18, 2009, 23:57:41 pm 9 more sleeps to go ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lee.C on March 19, 2009, 13:22:27 pm 9 more sleeps to go ;D I know I'm getting all excited ;D Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Georg/DFL on March 19, 2009, 17:06:56 pm I guess I know Russell. Is it a combination? ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on March 20, 2009, 00:28:45 am Well done Georg........ you are gifted buit lets wait until next Friday for the remaining loungers to find out... ;)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Geoff P DVKK on March 20, 2009, 02:38:05 am tri fecta!
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: vwcab on March 20, 2009, 13:38:14 pm Can't wait ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: richie on March 20, 2009, 14:12:58 pm Dont tell me boom boom worked on his car? nah it cant be that,it would be to far fetched :D :o
cheers richie Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: rick m on March 25, 2009, 07:11:15 am Is it this FRIDAY that Ritchie's secret is out...(the27th of March)?
Rick M Surprise, AZ Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Jøran Larssen on March 25, 2009, 11:37:02 am I know, but will not tell ;)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: vwcab on March 25, 2009, 12:14:41 pm The clock is ticking........2 more days.... :o :o
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: anders h on March 27, 2009, 20:05:36 pm and??????? speak up!
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: JustinCase on March 27, 2009, 21:23:02 pm and??????? speak up! * 2 ;DTitle: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Black Sheep on March 27, 2009, 22:28:51 pm Ohh seen it 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on March 27, 2009, 23:13:05 pm Well thats it, today was the big day, tomorrow for the public like me will be able to see them, i think there are at least 4 wow factors, im sure they will be posted tomorrow
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: empicolector on March 27, 2009, 23:55:47 pm keep us posted
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: streetvw on March 28, 2009, 00:21:53 am would this be one of them?
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu40/JRVWJR2009/Volksworld%20Show%202009/wwwvwbugcouk-VolksworldShow2009F-46.jpg) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lee.C on March 28, 2009, 01:16:00 am :-\
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: El Dub on March 28, 2009, 08:11:01 am 8)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: empicolector on March 28, 2009, 08:15:51 am superb
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Fastbrit on March 28, 2009, 08:31:44 am Hmm, looks familiar. ;) 8)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: empicolector on March 28, 2009, 09:49:46 am Hmm, looks familiar. ;) 8) (http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1756.0;attach=5503;image) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Black Sheep on March 28, 2009, 12:33:23 pm Hmm, looks familiar. ;) 8) (http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff84/49-rag/dyn003_original_700_314_pjpeg_22-1.jpg) I was thinking that too ;) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Lids on March 28, 2009, 15:46:26 pm not the same car, just a similar inspiration. one has a chop the other doesn't!
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: roland on March 28, 2009, 15:51:45 pm Same car as pink atomic though...
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Rob DVKK on March 29, 2009, 18:01:41 pm I may have missed it or maybe I'm just thick but what was the secret?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: lowfastbus on March 29, 2009, 18:07:43 pm Is it just me or do other guys also think this is kinda lacking inspiration.
Was cool as a gimmick but... Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Wünderwolff on March 29, 2009, 18:34:15 pm I wasn't too awestricken either. ::)
Don't get me wrong, it is a nice car, but indeed nothing more. I really like Meslet, and all the designs he pencils down are super VW's, but that is exactly the strong point, it is only ink and paper, a real what if to ponder on and think about. It's a great recognition for Meslet's work And the paint is awesome as is the finish, but it doesn't ring my bell. Sorry :-X Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: ESH on March 29, 2009, 19:52:49 pm (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/SanchoPancho/General/PA-DP01.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/SanchoPancho/General/PA-DP02.jpg) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: vwcab on March 29, 2009, 20:17:23 pm So......"pink atomic" is transformed in "dyno pincher".Right?
Who is the owner now?Also the same? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Jon on March 29, 2009, 20:29:03 pm Did the headlights change during the weekend?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: lowfastbus on March 29, 2009, 20:29:59 pm Looks like it, they where gold on saturday...
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on March 29, 2009, 22:50:15 pm Ok Guys this was the big secret, i saw this about a month ago and was blown away by the quality of the paint work by the paintbox, was also rather impressed that GhiaSteph wanted to build from the Super VW Impression of a cross Empi/DDS car, for me this is as worthy as any other gasser style homage and im delighted that people want to build there version of a period gasser, this all helps keep the gasser circus alive, very much like cal look, we all steel from previous ideas.
I thinks its slightly unfair to compare to KS's car as this was built way ahead of its time and was done with the empi theme in mind and if you think this went from a really fast cool car, to a black car, to a black car with green flames............ I would far rather see Pink Atomic change to DynoPincher and am glad it has. Steph, well done on the VW top 20 award, well derserved. see my other ramblings on VW post, ;) Russell Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: speedwell on March 30, 2009, 16:34:22 pm Did the headlights change during the weekend? yes , saturday they were yellow and sunday whiteowner is stephane aka steph ghia 63 Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Gunter on March 30, 2009, 18:35:40 pm Did the headlights change during the weekend? Yes Jon (hope you got home safe and that Sunday night went well after we went) the headlight rims only arrived Friday at the Paintbox and Simon custom made the white ones they have been fitted Saturday evening when the show closed for public Gunter Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Gunter on March 30, 2009, 18:39:20 pm Is it just me or do other guys also think this is kinda lacking inspiration. Was cool as a gimmick but... Hey Jelle you have to be inspired to make a real car out of a drawing by an artist (Pascal Meslet) believe me , to make this car right took inspiration and a lot Gunter Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: benssp on March 30, 2009, 20:12:01 pm I have a posterbook from the early nineties of Pascal's renderings, it would be great to see more of his work made into reality. If anyone can, it's going to be the PaintBox!
more of the car here: http://callookvw.skynetblogs.be/tag/1/volksworld%20show (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/593/708/20090330/dyn006_original_750_563_jpeg_2593708_da84670335b7441b4140db3524fd687b.jpg) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Jøran Larssen on March 30, 2009, 20:29:38 pm I like the transformation! Looking much better now 8)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Ole on March 30, 2009, 20:38:05 pm Couldn't make it to Esher this year :-\, so didn't see it with my own eyes, but what I can tell from the pictures, wow, great job, can't wait to see it in person.
Hopefully it runs as good as it looks. Don't get me wrong, I totally agree the DynoPincher winning the tropies, I just dream about the car combining the look with good E.T.s like it combines the Inspiration of two Legends of Aircooled VW Drag Racing. Saludos Amigos, Ole Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: SlingShot on March 30, 2009, 21:48:47 pm Anyone have pics of the engine??
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on March 30, 2009, 22:20:16 pm yes from the underneath ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: SlingShot on March 30, 2009, 23:23:01 pm Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: speedwell on March 31, 2009, 12:47:09 pm Anyone have pics of the engine?? :)Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: speedwell on March 31, 2009, 12:51:02 pm chris i've just those pictures from the engine the decklid was closed
;) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: SlingShot on March 31, 2009, 17:51:19 pm chris i've just those pictures from the engine the decklid was closed ;) Bummer. I'm sure some will surface sooner than later. Thanks Fabs Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: . on March 31, 2009, 21:23:51 pm Anyone have a pic of the "Empi fuel gauge" ? ??? Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: empicolector on March 31, 2009, 21:26:58 pm ;D
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: . on March 31, 2009, 21:31:06 pm Thanks Fred, but I don't see a FUEL gauge ?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: JS on March 31, 2009, 21:52:25 pm What kind of CSP shifter is that?
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: pughdog on March 31, 2009, 22:28:34 pm Fantastic car :)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Zach Gomulka on April 01, 2009, 00:59:05 am I do dig the dash treatment :)
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: WCB Hitler's Hot Rod on April 01, 2009, 06:07:44 am Paint & body looks awesome! Sure like to see the engine!
Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: empicolector on April 01, 2009, 06:52:16 am Thanks Fred, but I don't see a FUEL gauge ? me too Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: nicolas on April 01, 2009, 07:11:18 am Is it just me or do other guys also think this is kinda lacking inspiration. Was cool as a gimmick but... well i had the same feeling. BUT i think what lacks is striptime ;D it just will need to make it's own history, get into the battle and have some scars (hopefully none too bad though) and build up a reputation for itself. and apart from a couple things that need some change the car will do just fine. Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Mags on April 01, 2009, 07:56:19 am Johnny :o
Roth?? its not Fuel Empi :D Mags Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: speedwell on April 07, 2009, 17:01:59 pm Anyone have pics of the engine?? chris here's a pictures of the engine ;) Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: Russell on April 24, 2018, 22:19:26 pm Hmm, let's see what's left: Berg's black '67 racecar Gary's former street car (some assembly required) IP#1 IP#2 Dave Rhoad's green sedan Bill Schwimmer's sedan Sarge's '67 Kris Klingaman's race car Goin' Bananas Mike Smith's '67 (2) BAE turbo sedan (2) KRE's Blackie! (now that's a sleeper deal....) Terry Gordon's G/D Darrell's Vittone's A/MC Dave Andrew's A/MC Bear's B/MC KRE's Hot Sauce Manx Steve Tims' Mean Machine Lightning Bug (chop top and dragster) Holmes/Aronson And you already have everything else..... So looking back at some old posts, the above list caught my eye, made me think.... Berg's black '67 racecar Gary's former street car (some assembly required) IP#1 IP#2 Dave Rhoad's green sedan Bill Schwimmer's sedan Sarge's '67 Kris Klingaman's race car Goin' Bananas Mike Smith's '67 (2) BAE turbo sedan (2) KRE's Blackie! (now that's a sleeper deal....) Terry Gordon's G/D Darrell's Vittone's A/MC Dave Andrew's A/MC Bear's B/MC KRE's Hot Sauce Manx Steve Tims' Mean Machine Lightning Bug (chop top and dragster) Holmes/Aronson so i think all in red, the location is known, what about the others ??? Russell Title: Re: I know something you lot dont !!!! and Im trying to keep a secret..... Post by: speedwell on April 25, 2018, 14:16:50 pm BAE turbo is in hawaî
dave andrews still exist and deano knew where it was or what she becames ip may be still in mexico as top chop if i'm right or becames a top chop red/white paint color ip 2 was last seen in ohio may be in the 80's painted white |