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Title: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 15:40:30 pm
You can say to me if my back height seems to be correct , according to certain images of original vw :o  , the height seems correct, what do you think of it ???


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: louisb on February 22, 2009, 15:50:53 pm
Looks fine to me. Have you driven it around the block so it will settle yet?

--louis


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 15:55:27 pm
no  , just outside the garage  ,because no brake for the moment , i wll purge the system after put back the front new drums


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: roland on February 22, 2009, 16:50:34 pm
Seems a bit too high, no?

looks like there's positive camber, and that's not what you want ;)


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 16:59:57 pm
Seems a bit too high, no?

looks like there's positive camber, and that's not what you want ;)
yes but whith a 1200 model there's a little positve camber
 and maybe the car will down after some km drive


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: louisb on February 22, 2009, 17:02:53 pm
Seems a bit too high, no?

looks like there's positive camber, and that's not what you want ;)
yes but whith a 1200 model there's a little positve camber
 and maybe the car will down after some km drive

I would drive it a bit and see if it settles a little. If not, then I would drop it another inch, or put some tires with a proper sidewall on there.  ;)

--louis


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: yvre on February 22, 2009, 17:14:23 pm
Can't say anything as long as it's not settled yet. But the end result should be a bit lower IMO.


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 17:16:51 pm
Seems a bit too high, no?

looks like there's positive camber, and that's not what you want ;)
yes but whith a 1200 model there's a little positve camber
 and maybe the car will down after some km drive

I would drive it a bit and see if it settles a little. If not, then I would drop it another inch, or put some tires with a proper sidewall on there.  ;)

--louis
yes  but i'm not sure that the rear will drop a little, here's a picture with the empi 5 and the brigdestone 215/65 and he look like the same with my new cinturato 185/75


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: louisb on February 22, 2009, 17:21:28 pm
I covet your decklid every time i see that shot. I think you have more gap now than in that pic. But I will be honest, I like my gap to be the same, front and back.

--louis


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 17:30:45 pm
thx louis i will see in the future if the car will drop , but i'm not optimistic


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on February 22, 2009, 17:37:55 pm
Hi Fabs I think it needs to be at least 1 inch lower front and back  this Ragtop and oval sit perfect in the rear it has a little space but it has 165's I like the cars Lowered even with the top of the tire no space in between


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: Lids on February 22, 2009, 19:20:20 pm
climb on the back seat and bounce a bit.  See if this helps.  I have 185's on mine and there isn't that much gap.


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 19:42:22 pm
climb on the back seat and bounce a bit.  See if this helps.  I have 185's on mine and there isn't that much gap.
mike you can go with me into my car in the rear  at ebi 3 ::) ::)......................... ;D ;D ;D (joking buddy)

 ;)
fabs


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 19:44:34 pm
gary there's also a space  betwenn tyres and fenders of john L's car

(http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8171.0;attach=26374;image)

but remember there's no weight into the car all seat are in fiberglass


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: Lee.C on February 22, 2009, 21:31:59 pm
I think you need to drive it before you finally decide dude BUT here's a little tip that I did on the manx as that has NO weight either  ;)

You see if you leave a manx at stock height it tends to have ALOT of positive camber, So to get rid of this and still keep nice and high what I did was first LOWER each side by 2 OUTER splines then RAISE them again by 2 INNER splines, Now this may sound alittle strange BUT it gives you an almost stock height WITHOUT the positive camber :)

I have heard of people doing this on Bugs too BUT they tend to go for 4 inner/outer splines.


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 21:40:44 pm
thx lee  ;)


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: JS on February 22, 2009, 21:41:32 pm
Lee, I did that a couple of years ago on my car. This is what it looked like. 2 outer and 2 inner splines.
Loved the look, but raised it back to stock height because it was impossible to do a good launch at the track because of the car squatting = too much negative camber = no traction.

Edit: Note that these are BIG tires, about 215/70. The gap between tire and fender would of course be bigger with Speedwells smaller tires.


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: Lee.C on February 22, 2009, 21:51:46 pm
Lee, I did that a couple of years ago on my car. This is what it looked like. 2 outer and 2 inner splines.
Loved the look, but raised it back to stock height because it was impossible to do a good launch at the track because of the car squatting = too much negative camber = no traction.

Edit: Note that these are BIG tires, about 215/70. The gap between tire and fender would of course be bigger with Speedwells smaller tires.

Great minds think alike dude  ;D

P.s stiffer rear shocks might be in order dude  ;) :)


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 21:57:09 pm
Lee, I did that a couple of years ago on my car. This is what it looked like. 2 outer and 2 inner splines.
Loved the look, but raised it back to stock height because it was impossible to do a good launch at the track because of the car squatting = too much negative camber = no traction.

Edit: Note that these are BIG tires, about 215/70. The gap between tire and fender would of course be bigger with Speedwells smaller tires.
jon  if i put my tyres on your car , he will lokk the same ??? i've 185/75 side and before a 215/65


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: roland on February 22, 2009, 21:57:42 pm
Lee, I did that a couple of years ago on my car. This is what it looked like. 2 outer and 2 inner splines.
Loved the look, but raised it back to stock height because it was impossible to do a good launch at the track because of the car squatting = too much negative camber = no traction.

Edit: Note that these are BIG tires, about 215/70. The gap between tire and fender would of course be bigger with Speedwells smaller tires.

Great minds think alike dude  ;D

P.s stiffer rear shocks might be in order dude  ;) :)

or stiffer torsion bars ;)


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: JS on February 22, 2009, 22:40:09 pm
Lee, I did that a couple of years ago on my car. This is what it looked like. 2 outer and 2 inner splines.
Loved the look, but raised it back to stock height because it was impossible to do a good launch at the track because of the car squatting = too much negative camber = no traction.

Edit: Note that these are BIG tires, about 215/70. The gap between tire and fender would of course be bigger with Speedwells smaller tires.
jon  if i put my tyres on your car , he will lokk the same ??? i've 185/75 side and before a 215/65


Fabian, 215/70 is a 1" taller tire than a 185/5. (215/70 = 27"). Wich means the space between fender and tire would be 1/2" less if you put 215/70 on your car.
215/65 is as tall as 185/75(26"). I notice a BIG difference when I put on my 26" slicks.


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 22:42:58 pm
ok  ;)


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on February 22, 2009, 22:44:52 pm
gary there's also a space  betwenn tyres and fenders of john L's car

(http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8171.0;attach=26374;image)

but remember there's no weight into the car all seat are in fiberglass
all the more reason to lower it ;D ;D it sits to high even when the Empi 5 spokes were on it It is to High LOL get rid of the space above the tire ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: JS on February 22, 2009, 22:47:10 pm
26x6" Firestones stock height.


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 22, 2009, 22:59:34 pm
I would see having to run drive some time with
i will decide  after if i drop the car 2 inner & outer splines


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: nicolas on February 23, 2009, 08:17:03 am
it needs to drop a bit more. but look at it when you have driven the car. it may settle one inch lower after that. that would be perfect. i see you showed pics off deano's car and as beautifull as it is, it had an ugly gap at the back IMHO. way too much space even if it was stock hight.

i think you have 185/70 tires and that is about the same as what i have and 165/80, but don't count on it to be exacltly the same as it can differ quite a lot from brand to brand. uniroyal 165's are a lot lower then firestone 165's.

thanks for putting up the picture off the sepia brown one with the brown BRM's, but i think it is on jackstands or so... very beautifull car though.



Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: vwcab on February 23, 2009, 14:47:21 pm
Fabs,like the most have said,drive it for a while and see  how the height is then.You can correct afterwards.   ;)
@ Shubee,like Nicolas said,that sephia brown is a beauty.Can you give some more info please.(engine,year,.........)
(the rearlights seem later ones??,)

Peter  :)


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 23, 2009, 14:55:04 pm
it's mike hunsaker 66 sepia brown he was in drf
 ;)


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: Nico86 on February 23, 2009, 15:48:02 pm
Looks cool Fabs, don't worry take a little drive and your rear end will sit correctly.


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: speedwell on February 23, 2009, 15:53:35 pm
or i've another idea  i will eat more burger and other fast food to be more fat  ::) ::)......................... ;D ;D  my car will look more a restocal after  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: Nico86 on February 23, 2009, 17:49:23 pm
or i've another idea  i will eat more burger and other fast food to be more fat  ::) ::)......................... ;D ;D  my car will look more a restocal after  ;D ;D ;D

Yes or marry a fat wife...... ::) ;D


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on February 23, 2009, 18:07:19 pm
it's mike hunsaker 66 sepia brown he was in drf
 ;)
Did you Notice the Stock Fuel Pump and 5 mm VW Fuel Lines? car still ran Mid 12's


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: Diederick/DVK on February 23, 2009, 18:36:49 pm
yup, but i think it has been said before, thought i cannot quote the exact lines by heart, that it may work for 402 meters but on longer distance (road) the engine may starve for fuel.

love the linkage, though! and the pulley and mag ;)


Title: Re: correct back height
Post by: Zach Gomulka on March 09, 2009, 22:19:04 pm
Set the rear up for zero camber, and let the tire dictate the ride height. Then figure out what front tires you want, and set the front fender gap to match the rear fender gap.