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Title: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Wünderwolff on March 03, 2009, 08:07:43 am
Or what has influenced your choice of colour on your Cal-Look car?

I'm in the process of choosing the colour for my 66 looker/racer. This is probably the hardest task of the whole project. Every single spare minute is dedicated to weighing the pro's and cons of the colours in mind. Every hour spent in traffic is spent looking at the amount of cars in a certain colour and trying to see the trends in the go-fast market.

For example Bright White, especially with black wheels is very hot in Europe right now, with Beemers, Porsches, Chryslers 300 and all being painted in what basically is the most standard colour. I almost fell for that trap and had my car done in  Bright White. But then I read Cal-Look is about daring and the White would be to easy. Very nice and agressive, but too fashionable.

What I'm wondering about is what the history on the choice of colour is. Take the Gasser craze, it is easy to see where that came from. People trying to mimic the speed of the cars seen on the racetrack by copying the colourscheme's. I believe the Cal-Look scene was probably too small however at the time to have a actual impact on the colourchoices made. So it must have been influenced by something else, a fashion way bigger. Was every fast guy buying single toned cars, be it American Iron or fast exotics like Porsche, maybe even Italian stuff, and was early Cal-look influenced by that fashion of colors? Or was it just a underground reaction to candy colored, multi-toned average Joe get arounds?

Just wondering. And please, if you answer this, provide ample visual examples to prove your point  ;D


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: wolfswest on March 03, 2009, 10:19:31 am
When I needed to choose the color for my car I was still in my resto cal mood.  I saw a metallic green car on the net that I liked and I wanted something like that.  I went to the painter and flipped trough the colorcards and I found the color that is currently on my car:  Metallic green that was standard on an old maserati   So I guess the color is race-influenced.  ;D

It’s not your standard Porsche or vw non metallic color that we all love, and I know metallic paints  aren’t 100% pure callook but I like it.  It’s something different.  No pictures of my car on my work computer, I will post a few later.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: wolfswest on March 03, 2009, 20:13:31 pm
maserati color...


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: j-f on March 03, 2009, 20:41:26 pm
maserati color...

NICE  :o :o 8)


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: wolfswest on March 03, 2009, 20:45:17 pm

THX!  credits for the picture is for Fabs or Nicolas, can't remember, taken on the bugtour last year.  Car changed a bit the last month's, but only in a good way...  ;)


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: j-f on March 03, 2009, 21:16:08 pm

THX!  credits for the picture is for Fabs or Nicolas, can't remember, taken on the bugtour last year.  Car changed a bit the last month's, but only in a good way...  ;)

Both are 2 photos freaks  ;)
I'm not a big fan of metallic paint on a looker, but your change my mind  ;)


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Jason Foster on March 03, 2009, 23:36:10 pm
I chose Bahama Blue L519 if I remember correctly without looking it up. It was the original color of my car. Interior was still bahama when I got it exterior was a sad white. Looking back I really like my color it is still pretty uncommon but I really like shades of Tan and would like to see a warm chocolatey brown.

mines on the right
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/YAVE123/P1040965.jpg)


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Donny B. on March 04, 2009, 01:02:56 am
I like Bahama Blue as well.  It's the color of my car and it's original color as well.  I believe that in 1966 it was the most popular color for a Bug in the U.S.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Jim Ratto on March 04, 2009, 01:22:36 am
maserati color...

I like that Maserati color from the picture. Is it a green? Looks like an emerald. Nice! More pictures?

I painted my Bug the blue it is after falling in love with a picture of an early Porsche 356 from an old hardcover book I had at the time it was painted (Dec 1989). There was a few nice color shots of an Adriatic Blue 356 coupe, and I was nuts about the color. The guy that painted my car, Reggie DeCoite, mixed the color based on the photo in the book. I remember driving the shell home from his shop, no moldings, no glass, no bumpers and being stoked about the color in the sun. Over the next few weeks, the paint seemed to take on a higher sheen and began to look better and better.
Now almost 20 years later I wish I had taken better care of the paint.



Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: bilboa2 on March 04, 2009, 02:05:33 am
3rd on that bahama blue...no metalics for me.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Sam K on March 04, 2009, 02:39:15 am
My car was originally L630 VW Blue and thats the color I repainted it the first time. I liked the color a lot but after the car got got wrecked I was going to repaint it again in the original color but a good friend who owns a body shop convinced me to use a color that had just come out for the 2000 Civic Si. It's a shade lighter than the original color but it has a little bit of amythest in the clear coat so under flourescent light at night it almost looks purple. If I remember correctly, it's called electron blue. As soon as it rolled out of the booth I knew that I had made the right choice even if it is a Honda Color.  ;D

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f315/67bug/074.jpg)


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Rennsurfer on March 04, 2009, 03:30:45 am
Some cool colors and stories. My first '66 was whatever (Lotus?) white that VW used from the factory. My friend and I painted it orange 'cause it's been my favorite color since I was a toddler. My second '66 was imported from Berlin and still had most of the factory Java Green (GREAT color!). My current '67 was originally Zenith Blue and came with an oxidized repaint of the same color. It's not exact but pretty gosh darned close. I'm on a shoe string budget so when I was shopping for a '67, '68, or '69... Savannah Beige was actually the color I was after. Another factor was the paint had to be decent enough for me to bring back to a presentable state. So when I bought this car, I was going to simply buff it out and down the road, switch it over to Savannah. Now that I've had the car for a year... I'm starting to really dig the Zenith color. So she's staying this way.

Here's a shot from my drive, today. I finished work early so I came home and took out the '67 to enjoy another frigid So Cal winter day.

Let's see/hear some more stories.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Jason Foster on March 04, 2009, 07:31:11 am
Jim, Your muffler looks bad ass sir!!! haven't seen your car in awhile is that a recent shot? man that looks great!


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Sarge on March 04, 2009, 14:21:37 pm
(http://[IMG]http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq192/jimme67/IMG_5169.jpg)


When it came time to paint the '67, Sharon and I were leaning towards Lotus White but after some friendly persuasion by the Becker clan, we went with Bright-Ass Red ::) ;D  Leonard Becker was firmly in the non-metallic camp and liked the way bright colors made the car "pop" in the sun.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: alex d on March 04, 2009, 14:41:57 pm
my car was originally L360 seeblau, but sometime it got painted black, my plans are to bring it back to blue, but sometimes I am tempted to shave the trim and paint it india red or sepia brown!  :P


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: speedwell on March 04, 2009, 14:55:39 pm

maserati color...
I like that Maserati color from the picture. Is it a green? Looks like an emerald. Nice! More pictures?
jim here's a better picture to see what the color looks


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Neil Davies on March 04, 2009, 15:02:46 pm
My first bug got painted bright white, as I'd just seen Bill Taormina's replica of the Aronson '63 and loved how the colour worked with the shape of the car. The race car nearly ended up green metalflake, but I saw a picture of Lee Leightons Oval and decided that I prefered the red! Even put gold pinstripes on it too. My Ghia was bought as a project, and although originally orange, it had previously been gunmetal grey, and all the interior, engine bay and underbonnet metal was still in that colour. It was something of a no brainer to do it like Roger Grago's as I wouldn't have to paint the inside again! My last project paint colour was decided by the interior colour - I knew I wanted a red interior so I had to pick a colour to go with that, hence the anthracite.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Rennsurfer on March 04, 2009, 15:10:18 pm
When it came time to paint the '67, Sharon and I were leaning towards Lotus White but after some friendly persuasion by the Becker clan, we went with Bright-Ass Red ::) ;D  Leonard Becker was firmly in the non-metallic camp and liked the way bright colors made the car "pop" in the sun.

Bright Ass Red indeed! First time I saw your car, I was blown away 'cause I'd never seen a red mixed in such a hue. You're right... it pops. Easily one of the most difficult cars to photograph to show the true color.

Keep the stories and pics flowing. For decades, I've always thought that the Beetle and 911 bodies could pull off any color and still look good. Not many cars can tout that.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: LuftsickTero on March 04, 2009, 16:10:32 pm
For example Bright White, especially with black wheels is very hot in Europe right now, with Beemers, Porsches, Chryslers 300 and all being painted in what basically is the most standard colour. I almost fell for that trap and had my car done in  Bright White. But then I read Cal-Look is about daring and the White would be to easy. Very nice and agressive, but too fashionable.

White does look cool on right car, like in Brian Blummer's or this one:

(http://www.terovirta.com/imagesToo/2007_EBI_1200.jpg)

Both of the cars that I've had painted have been original colours L390 Gulf Blue (http://www.terovirta.com/images/My1963Beetle_1998_09.jpg) and L452 Paprika Red (http://lh5.ggpht.com/tero.virta/SAoasPYuwNI/AAAAAAAACQk/_gBmR3AyKUs/s800/IMG_5818b.jpg).


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: wolfswest on March 04, 2009, 16:27:24 pm
my car has changed a lot the last year!  More black parts, less chrome  :P  the green pops out different now, difficult to explain.  I will post an up to date picture.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Casey on March 04, 2009, 19:27:19 pm
I wanted back, the car I never should have sold. 62' Beryl Green. What the hell is the blue thing next to me? Jason..... I almost went with your color. I still have the paint too. Maybe the 66' will have the shade of blue!
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i313/vishfab/IMG_4982.jpg)


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: vwcab on March 04, 2009, 23:25:41 pm
(http://[IMG]http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq192/jimme67/IMG_5169.jpg)


When it came time to paint the '67, Sharon and I were leaning towards Lotus White but after some friendly persuasion by the Becker clan, we went with Bright-Ass Red ::) ;D  Leonard Becker was firmly in the non-metallic camp and liked the way bright colors made the car "pop" in the sun.
@ Sarge are your "bright-ass red (your words   ;D ) looker" and the ex Doug Mische "Wocket" the same color?
Peter  ;)


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Sarge on March 05, 2009, 00:48:58 am

Sarge are your "bright-ass red (your words   ;D ) looker" and the ex Doug Mische "Wocket" the same color?
Peter  ;)


It's about a half shade different, Peter.  Mine's better, of course.... j/k ;D


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Brian Silva on March 05, 2009, 01:39:11 am
Great topic! Well when I was in the process of picking a color for my car i just really started paying attention to the colors of the cal-lookers I had seen both in magazines and in person. My car came from the factory Lotus White but when i purchased the car, it was painted primer white so i never got a chance to see the car in its original color. During my research I really fell in love with the black with red interior combo. I was going to go ahead and paint my car black and so fourth until I had seen a stocker 67 in lotus white. I fell in love with the color and new it would be a bitchin' color for a cal-looker. I had never seen a lotus white cal-looker with red interior but I had seen plenty of Pearl white lookers running around and figured the color was close enough to Lotus white to make a judgement. Once the car was painted i noticed Lotus white was more of a cream color versus the more white hue of pearl white. I was extremely happy with the way it turned out. I debated removing the chrome but with the lotus white, the chrome just made the car pop and i dug the early cal-look treatment. Once I bolted the brms to the car, I knew I had made the right decision.

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/bsilva84/Brians%20DRKC%2067%20Bug/67bug012.jpg)

Sun shot from the rear  ::)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/bsilva84/Brians%20DRKC%2067%20Bug/67bug004.jpg)


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Rennsurfer on March 05, 2009, 01:59:53 am
Good lookin' car, Brian. Always dug that color.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: jhicken on March 05, 2009, 02:07:07 am
Back in the day I think it was Porsche that the cal look scene most wanted to exemplify. Simple colors, minimal trim. Mostly subtle in appearance, but all business below the accelerator. You had the traditional blacks, grays, whites, blues, greens and seipa browns, but you also had the bright reds, oranges, blues, yellows and lime greens.

-jeffrey


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: TexasTom on March 05, 2009, 20:44:15 pm
My '69 was originally my brothers. He bought it back in '71 and it was his first car. I was 6 at the time and I used to ride to school in it, 1st grade!
I've known the car my whole life and it is the reason we have our VW business today ... started back in '84. I remember the night we got his 2007cc going with the new 40DCNF Webers ...
Back in '77 he wanted to change the color of the car after seeing a new Porsche 911 Turbo at the local dealership. I remember it coming back from the painter ... beautiful. I know now it was Manurva Blue. Yes, the same as Gary Berg's '67.
I redid the paint back in '03 after a small argument with a guardrail on the intercity highway ... it won. Took out the left front of the sheetmetal only. DOTs don't really work to well in torrential rainfall!!!
I thought about another color change, but after all these years, I just couldn't do it. I still love it.

If I had to choose today, I might go for a softer brown/orange color ... I really like some I've seen on this sight occasionally.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Jim Ratto on March 05, 2009, 21:49:13 pm
Colors I think would fit a cal look Type 1 really well, but have yet to see...

Alfa "Giallo Ocra", a goldish-ochre yellow used by Alfa in late 1960's

Porsche "Ice Blue" an almost white, very cool pale blue, used in late 1970's on 911Sc and 930



Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Wünderwolff on March 06, 2009, 07:52:36 am
...Back in '77 he wanted to change the color of the car after seeing a new Porsche 911 Turbo at the local dealership. I remember it coming back from the painter ... beautiful. I know now it was Manurva Blue. Yes, the same as Gary Berg's '67...

I love that color, was on the top of my mind as well for my '66, maybe a shade brighter, more electric blue like. And though Blue is my favourite colour and you don't see to many blue cars (well at least not that sort of blue  :o), it doesn't tickle me enough to take it for my own car.

I'll probably go the Porsche Route as well.

There was a 914 in Oud Turnhout. Rustfree, but rotten in and out. Ravenna Green, a sight to be seen. The sight of the hole of death kicked me out.

So ravenna green it could be. They also call it Tennis ball Yellow which kind of gives you a feeling about the classiness of the colour  ;D. I might have a spraycan made up of the colour to test it first, but something tells me I should just go ahead and walk on the wild side.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: jhicken on March 06, 2009, 13:58:56 pm
Ravenna green rocks! I say hold yer nose and jump in! No spray bomb tests, just push it into the booth and go for it.

-jeffrey


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Sal E on March 06, 2009, 22:37:58 pm
The car came out of the factory green so I wanted it to stay green but I quite liked the idea of changing it a little. The idea behind it was the colour had to look like a 70's colour and if possible be appropriate for the year of the car and come either from the VW colour charts or those of Porsche. In the end the colour effectively chose itself, a couple of the greens were a little too much like British Racing Green whilst others whilst nice didn't quite jump out enough except for Chartreuse but that jumped out a bit too much. In the end Leaf floated to the top and was finally decided on when we found out according to a record on colours that Porsche only offered it as a standard colour in '73. Pretty much perfect.

There's that and the fact I liked the colour.  :)

(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/Sal--E/Restoration/Web-VWBugResto20C04.jpg)


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Cornpanzer on March 08, 2009, 15:32:01 pm
Back in the mid 80's I had a VW Trends magazine that had an event coverage feature with a small pic of a 60's era black cal-look vert with all the stock trim.  Something about the lighting of the photo made that black car sparkle and it grabbed me in a big way.  I told myself that someday I would build a black cal-look car with trim.  When I found my savannah Beige 67, I knew from day one that it was going to be black.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Rocket Ron on March 08, 2009, 16:13:17 pm


White does look cool on right car, like in Brian Blummer's or this one:

(http://www.terovirta.com/imagesToo/2007_EBI_1200.jpg)


this is lotus whte too


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: nicolas on March 10, 2009, 19:56:23 pm
i have been thinking about what you said, and yes you are right white is the new thing, but look at it in a different way and think about a white car in 4-5 years. all the new cars will probally be purple or some other colour and not white as it is 'passé' but your bug is allready timeless, so white could work really well.
just make sure to pick a colour that puts a smile on your face every time you see it. and certainly don't chose a colour that you think off as 'yes, but'



Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: johnl on March 10, 2009, 22:04:42 pm
(http://[IMG]http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq192/jimme67/IMG_5169.jpg)


When it came time to paint the '67, Sharon and I were leaning towards Lotus White but after some friendly persuasion by the Becker clan, we went with Bright-Ass Red ::) ;D  Leonard Becker was firmly in the non-metallic camp and liked the way bright colors made the car "pop" in the sun.

Jim,

What happend to Leonard Becker and the crew?  I haven't driven by the place in year.

John L


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Sarge on March 10, 2009, 22:36:49 pm
(http://[IMG]http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq192/jimme67/IMG_5169.jpg)


When it came time to paint the '67, Sharon and I were leaning towards Lotus White but after some friendly persuasion by the Becker clan, we went with Bright-Ass Red ::) ;D  Leonard Becker was firmly in the non-metallic camp and liked the way bright colors made the car "pop" in the sun.

Jim,

What happend to Leonard Becker and the crew?  I haven't driven by the place in year.

John L



The whole family moved to Hawaii years ago.  Jimmy (Leonard's son) and Linda moved back after a while and last we talked were living in Arizona... he was framing houses instead of beating on fenders.  As for Leonard, I have no clue.... and what about Harry Nose?? ;)


just make sure to pick a colour that puts a smile on your face every time you see it. and certainly don't chose a colour that you think off as 'yes, but'


Well said, Nicolas!


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: Wünderwolff on March 10, 2009, 22:42:02 pm
Just the one to tune in, Mr. Lazenby of butternut fame. Lovely colour, but why? Did your neighbours trophee wife have a daily craving for buttered nuts? :P Or did you just like the colour, plain and simple as that.


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: johnl on March 10, 2009, 23:10:04 pm
Just the one to tune in, Mr. Lazenby of butternut fame. Lovely colour, but why? Did your neighbours trophee wife have a daily craving for buttered nuts? :P Or did you just like the colour, plain and simple as that.

As memory serves, I think about that time Mercedes had introduced a gold that I liked and also GM cars were using a lot of it.  I happen to spot the Corvette one year color and thought it was the best choice.  Today when I look at it I honestly don't know why I picked it and it is extremely rare to see a Vette with the color.

Side note:  When I was restoring several of my Hemi Cars I searched for a gold to do the valve covers.  Chrysler had at least three vendors that they got paint from, so there really is no documentation on what is "correct".  I went through Sikkens paint books and found a gold that turned out to be the very same Mercedes color that started it all :)




Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: pupjoint on March 11, 2009, 14:08:51 pm
i recently bought a RHD Euro Bug 1966, original colour was L360 Sea Blue. Paint is kinda subjective, but i always like factory colours.

this is what it looks like 2 weeks ago when i collected it.

(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/pupjoint1/Copyoffrontview.jpg)

can see the traces of the original colour

(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/pupjoint1/pedalclusterclean.jpg)

(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/pupjoint1/DSCN0651.jpg)

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=345390


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: RedEx on March 13, 2009, 11:06:41 am
My choice or would I say my choiceS, where easy, at first, when I bought my car I left it in its original beige color as I did't need to resore it due to its perfect condition. I just made it a Cal-Look.

After 2 years riding avery day to my work summer as winter, the car began to show some rust spots. And I decided to fix thoses problems and change the color into an original 65 blue color but without a full restoration as the rusty places where minor.

But after some more years on the road, the car really needed a full restoration. It was time again to change the color in something more shiny, and i went to another original 65 color: Ruby Red.

That's it!


Title: Re: Why did you paint your car appleblueseagreen ...
Post by: nicolas on March 13, 2009, 14:31:00 pm
and what a great choice you made Benoit! always liked the car. saw you fiddle at it at DDD2 and it stuck in my memory since.