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Title: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on December 23, 2006, 22:36:22 pm Hi all,
I'm new on this forum, but I wanted to share my project I'm currently working on... my 57 ova! I have this car already for several years, but now it is undergoing major surgery. It should come out as a nice shiny Polar Silver ragtopped oval(hopefully this summer, but I think that is a bit too tight, I also need to work on my doca to get that one slammed and narrowed by this summer...) Anyway back onto the car: A 57 belgian car (built in Jemeppe, Belgium), that I rebuild to drive 4 years ago. 1776cc engine, 10cm narrowed, CB dropped spindles, CSP diskbrakes, BRM's with 145 front, 205 in the rear, welded convertable decklid, T-bars, OG interior, Gene Berg lock shifter, full autometer manos... How it looked back then (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/163343.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/163342.jpg) Now the breakdown and welding started. I modified the inner wings to accomodate the 10cm narrowed beam, grafted in a ragtop section, modified the wings to look like original oval wings (they are later VW wings), removable rear valance, ... I dressed up a pepped up 1600cc for now (the 1776cc is now residing in the SLAMBULANCE), but will be building a new engine later on! the engine (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/300717.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/300716.jpg) The breather box I built for the engine (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/309945.jpg) restyling the inner wings (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/300733.jpg) Ovalised the 61 front clip by adding the outside corners with the pressiing in it (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/300727.jpg) Had to fix this mess due to accident damage (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/300730.jpg) My little helper (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/317974.jpg) I did cut a big hole in the roof, aliging the ragtop section (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/322704.jpg) Done (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/322726.jpg) The polar silver paint check. So I had the rear decklid painted already (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/317982.jpg) More pics can be seen on http://oval57.skynetblogs.be check also http://slambulance.skynetblogs.be www.vwsamba.tk See YA, Peter Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: speedwell on December 24, 2006, 12:54:08 pm A 57 belgian car (built in Jemeppe, Belgium), :o
hy peter welcome to the lounge , very nice car i hope to see him at the camping la tortue in france at the super vw nat's this year , you said your car was build in jemeppe it's jemppe /meuse or jemeppe/ sambre because i live 10 min to the GARAGE DE LA CLOCHE , that garage was the official dealer from ritter in liege Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Diederick/DVK on December 25, 2006, 11:00:40 am Great project Peter!
And i love the look of the pepped up 1600, that's what i want mine to look like ;D Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on December 25, 2006, 11:08:10 am Seeing the car at the VW Nat's this year might be a bit optimistic, that will be for the year after I'm afraid (still have some other projects floating around I want to finish first...). I will see you there with my thrusty SLAMBULANCE ;D
The oval was originally assembled in Jemeppe. There was a small assembly factory taking the german parts and building finished cars out of them. You can see this in the securit logos on the windows. They are all reading JEMEPPE-BELGIUM. Where exactly this is... no idea really?? See YA PS: If I'm not mistaken your car is in the feb issue of VolksWorld, right? I hope to get my copy soon since my fellow clubmember Kurts 67 EMPI Ragtop is in there too 8) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on December 25, 2006, 11:24:40 am And i love the look of the pepped up 1600, that's what i want mine to look like ;D Thanks!! At the moment it is still purely for looks, but I have all the parts for a SCAT 2027cc engine coming over from the states (they should be on the ocean already!). Originally I planned that 2027cc engine for the SLAMBULANCE, but I might keep the 1776 in there and put the 2027 in the oval. The part I think that really makes my engine, is my breather box My design (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/309933.jpg) the puzle (laser cut) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/309937.jpg) The build up (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/309939.jpg) the result (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/309947.jpg) Finished with my PBW log (=Peters Bus Werks) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323110.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323111.jpg) See YA, Peter Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Turtle001 on December 25, 2006, 14:13:28 pm welcome peter!
Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: speedwell on December 25, 2006, 15:05:09 pm The oval was originally assembled in Jemeppe. There was a small assembly factory taking the german parts and building finished cars out of them. You can see this in the securit logos on the windows. They are all reading JEMEPPE-BELGIUM.
Where exactly this is... no idea really?? Quote jemeppe is near from luik peter , at the GARAGE DE LA CLOCHE ,He built the ritter buggys and also prepared lbeetle :the ritters with lemmertz rims, and prepared engine , internal sport etc..Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Jon on December 25, 2006, 20:14:04 pm Good work!! And welcome to the lounge! :)
Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on December 29, 2006, 22:34:50 pm I have been doing some more work on the oval this week.
I had to removed the engine bay trays to get to some rotted metal hidden under the trays, so I modified the trays so they are easily removable. All in preparation of a future stroker engine ;) Stronger ridge (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323832.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323833.jpg) Fitted, all it takes now is 3 allen head bolts ;D (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323834.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323836.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on December 29, 2006, 22:39:32 pm Since I use a polyester rear removable apron, I was missing the inner part of an original apron. So I removed this form a later 60's apron and will modify this to use on the oval
The inner structure (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323837.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323838.jpg) I still have a gap I need to close due to a fact I used a later apron to cut... (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323839.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on December 29, 2006, 22:42:59 pm Test of my cardboard engine access window
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323840.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323841.jpg) I need to have this tempate lasercut now... Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on December 29, 2006, 22:46:26 pm The engine bay with the engine fitted, the trays removed.
Lots of space left... (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323844.jpg) Stuffed! (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323845.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Diederick/DVK on December 29, 2006, 23:27:48 pm that's some sweet sensation there! i dig it. nice work!
keep it up 8) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on December 30, 2006, 21:37:41 pm Ok guys, how should I paint my removable engine trays?
Body color Polar silver so it will be barely noticeable or Black as the engine tin to make people look twice thinking "what the hell is going on here?" (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/323982.jpg) Let me know what you think/would do! Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Diederick/DVK on December 30, 2006, 23:02:35 pm i reckon polar silver will look smooth ;)
Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on December 31, 2006, 11:22:12 am i reckon polar silver will look smooth ;) Think that might be the best... If anyone of you has a 80mm VDO revcounter far sale, let me know! I want to ditch the AutoMeters and install some more period VDO gauges. So if someone has one for sale (preferably 12V), shout ;) This would be ideal, a 60s version (earlier ones only go up to 5000rpm, not enough :-\) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/299923.jpg) or one of these? (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/214718.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/213924.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/29666.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 03, 2007, 11:22:19 am What should I do?
Use the poly-ester rear apron with DZUS fasteners as I have now (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/324508.jpg) or cut and modify the original one (the one on the bottom here) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/324509.jpg) The polyester one is easy removable and handy with the merged header due to the central hole The original one is harder to make it removable, but it gives an original look... Can get into small clearance issues with the merged header/dynomax... What would you do?? Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Jon on January 03, 2007, 12:17:42 pm I would fix up the original to fit like the polyester one, and move the exhaust cut out to the centre, if you need it.
Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 03, 2007, 13:53:55 pm I'm thinking I might not need to central recess... there are many cars out there without it... ;)
I think I will cut up the original one (I will have to remove the inner structure so I can mount it seperatly otherwise I will scratch the paint when I try to mount the removable rear apron) and then mount it by clamping it inbetween the fenders and body where it sat originally. Then it will be mostly invisible :) This might be the best solution after all... Thanks! Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 05, 2007, 21:01:52 pm After lots of work making the poylester apron fit with an inner structure
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325094.jpg) and a remaining small gap filled up further (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325096.jpg) I decided to go for a metal original rear apron Thinking about modifying the NOS rear apron I have (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325100.jpg) But I will keep that one for another resto and use the cars original rear apron drilling the spotwelds (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325101.jpg) divorced :) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325102.jpg) Fits as a glove (afters lots of fiddling around)! (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325103.jpg) the inner structure (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325104.jpg) welding all the drilled holes (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325105.jpg) DONE! (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325106.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 05, 2007, 21:07:25 pm Originally the upper rear corners are stuffed with sound deadning material and this is hidden by the black board firewall. Since I will not reuse the ugly black board, but leave the firewall painted, I made a cover to cover up the sound deadening material.
It took me 5 attempts before I got the shape I wanted (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325097.jpg) done (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325098.jpg) mounted in the left side (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325099.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 05, 2007, 21:23:42 pm Anyone knows where this clocks comes from?
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325113.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325115.jpg) Is this VW or not? Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 07, 2007, 17:56:03 pm I found my set of early VDO gauges!
They need a clean uo, but are AWESOME ;D They will look cool! (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325416.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325417.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325418.jpg) I also bought a new chroom ring for the tacho and I have a good used ring for the Amp gauge (these rings are not yet reprod as far as I know...). The needle of the amp will need to get a new colour as well... Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 07, 2007, 17:57:56 pm I also found a NOS Bosch 010 in Rosmalen... this will be one for the 2027cc engine!!
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325413.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325414.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325415.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 07, 2007, 18:00:23 pm A package from the States... 3 Berg Linkages. 1 for me, the rest is for fellow club members ;D
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325422.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325424.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 07, 2007, 18:03:02 pm Deciding on the cloth ragtop cover colour, bordeaux or beige?
I think I will go with the beige... the bordeux is too dark and will not fit well with the seats I think... (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325420.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/325421.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Diederick/DVK on January 07, 2007, 18:04:45 pm Nice searching on the gauges, they look awesome!
And an 010 in Rosmalen? Darn, i haven't seen it! :-[ Was it cheap? ::) ;) And i love the Berg linkages! Amazing piece or art 8) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Turtle001 on January 07, 2007, 19:04:40 pm hey peter -- are the VDO gauges from a dutchman (henk)? i contacted him and he said there was somebody on it -- 'cause i was interested in the tach ;-)
Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 07, 2007, 19:37:51 pm hey peter -- are the VDO gauges from a dutchman (henk)? i contacted him and he said there was somebody on it -- 'cause i was interested in the tach ;-) Yep! thats the one! He is doing the oppsite of me... he wants to go away form these to a AutoMeter monster tach in his 67 I want to go away from my Monster tach to early VDO's So we struck a deal ;D everybody happy! Still need to check if they are all working though :-\ Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 07, 2007, 19:42:05 pm Nice searching on the gauges, they look awesome! And an 010 in Rosmalen? Darn, i haven't seen it! :-[ Was it cheap? ::) ;) And i love the Berg linkages! Amazing piece or art 8) It was actually Philip (Dr Detail from the FlatLine lowriders http://flatline-lowriders.skynetblogs.be ) that found it, but he just ordered one from Glenn Ring so I got to buy it ;D The 010 was cheap (130 euros), specially since it is a NOS unit! A restored unit from Glenn Ring is more expensive (and is in the states), just ask Philip, he knows ;) The Berg linkages are cool! The main lever is way nicer then the older style as I have it on the 1600cc Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Diederick/DVK on January 07, 2007, 19:49:54 pm A dutchman called Henk with a 67, mmh never heard of. But i'm interested.
Lucky you! i know glenn he is the man for 010 but he is expensive too. 130 euros for a NOS 010 dist, you lucky bastard ;) I wish i had found it, but then i haven't really looked for it either... ::) I noticed the new lever style, awesome! Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 07, 2007, 20:01:28 pm A dutchman called Henk with a 67, mmh never heard of. But i'm interested. Sorry, its Hans... not henk Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Diederick/DVK on January 07, 2007, 20:12:56 pm aha, thehanz? as of thursday he too is on here now :)
Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Turtle001 on January 07, 2007, 20:15:11 pm indeed Hans .. my misstake ;)
Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: thehanz DVK on January 09, 2007, 20:20:30 pm hee so here is the oval where the vdo's are going to...looks nice ;)
Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Diederick/DVK on January 21, 2007, 15:54:25 pm Peter, just wondering, i saw this pic again :
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/300716.jpg) and is this both an oil temp and oil pressure sender? what parts do it need for that? and how's the oval coming along? Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 21, 2007, 16:12:41 pm Peter, just wondering, i saw this pic again : and is this both an oil temp and oil pressure sender? what parts do it need for that? and how's the oval coming along? Yep it is! You just need that little brass T-piece so you can mount that temp and pressure sender unit there. VDO has these... I'm not sure where I got mine from (I geuss BBT) but they are easy to find! Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Diederick/DVK on January 21, 2007, 16:16:06 pm the brass t piece i can find here too (10 EUR)
but the senders you have are VDO senders? Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 21, 2007, 17:33:49 pm the brass t piece i can find here too (10 EUR) but the senders you have are VDO senders? Not sure if these are VDO senders? I had a VDO pressure sender, but I do not know if I used it on this engine or on the 1776cc engine... Good news... a part of the SCAT order for my 2027cc engine arrived last week (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328363.jpg) the rods (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328364.jpg) The stroker crank (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328365.jpg) minii d-port heads, ported, 40 & 37,5 valves, dual springs (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328366.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328367.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328368.jpg) Kennedy Stage 1 clutch (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328371.jpg) Engle W110 cam (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328370.jpg) And 3 AS41 cases are a Steves VWshop for measuring (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328373.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 21, 2007, 20:49:07 pm Small local NewYears meet... it was fun to take the VW's out again.
The FlatLine lowriders (check http://flatline-lowriders.skynetblogs.be/ ) were represented by the Slambulance, Philips 66 looker and Kurts 67 standard Rag (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328418.jpg) Slammed suspension, but still comfy!! Casper fell asleep on the way over there :D (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328427.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328422.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328425.jpg) (http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/328423.jpg) It was cool ;D Peter Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on February 10, 2007, 21:03:33 pm Some more work done!
I took the body off the chassis and fixed it to the rotissary so I can weld/clean the underside! (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_347d927dcd778e4f1ee6a5bdecd5a5d1.jpg) bottom of the bulkhead (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_0c4156dd55bc6f6a3b041c0d149ed1e3.jpg) previous resto methode! Welding a patch over rotten metal :( (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_34c94b082b7332f2a80783ff31d662b8.jpg) Removing the rotten metal (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_ffce34593fa2609a3edae62a3984c388.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_332cf023ebb8cfe987b859e39e00cd98.jpg) I made a new endplate for the heater channel (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_ebae85a64ddb73389bd4a6eb6a6a03e4.jpg) And a new support part for the threaded block (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_7641d3218f1c96d3149b90f4fa8c9fd4.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_c40a9456b88812c7148513606f19d15d.jpg) The bottom bulkhead part (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_a452bd1eb4827db206a2435c1efbceb8.jpg) right side (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_016f787fc7622d27cae0a36b9b71418f.jpg) Primered the insides before I close it up forever! (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070209/dyn002_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_3e2b035f8cd8d2baa66c7b4b09ac84d3.jpg) By now it was thursdayevening 1:30am....had to get some sleep since 5 hours later I had to get up to go to work again :-\ Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on February 10, 2007, 21:11:52 pm What is a car with a ragtop and no pop-out windows....
Yep, just like a bar with no beer ;D Installing the rubber seal in the pop-out frame (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070205/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_30a4400a99b85d18d682032544ccf52d.jpg) The template I used for drilling the hole in the window posts (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070205/dyn007_original_450_600_pjpeg_2556245_6e866f09d3362f16b7a9047cbb007594.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on February 10, 2007, 21:14:52 pm The front wings are finished.
I primered the inside of the wing and the headlamp buckets (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070205/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_ae6487b8c0d0442fbda0b6ab9e167a67.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070205/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_9da62edb36c629b1e728169cae5357df.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on February 10, 2007, 21:17:26 pm Where to leave the chassis of the oval when the garage is getting a bit too full??
Right, above the SLAMBULANCE after some creative stacking of wooden blocks :) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070205/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_ec2ad7d21485db93fb9424312c4b5e13.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on February 21, 2007, 20:52:56 pm The bottom of the heater channel
again, the old patch over rust metode (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_e09734b8b4097875439dcd760ef85774.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_c1a9505eb7619d294347b0d07b78e8ed.jpg) more rot (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_b3afb627f080c1f943b3262893be5b69.jpg) and some cutting (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_450_600_pjpeg_2556245_6da5b17138ca91e30e8a39537899e777.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_5f11fd0688aead11233356769eef0671.jpg)[/quote] Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on February 21, 2007, 20:53:44 pm removing the bottom of the heater channel. Most of it was still OK, but I wanted to clean and paint the inside
(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_3d148153aa34b5114c5867641645be66.jpg) removing (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_73b107a693e291b95591651e01c121c4.jpg) The inside (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_530e63835348e72f7b82c8450337d117.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_560a74a966fa798f4d390f6682ee50fb.jpg)[/quote] Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on February 21, 2007, 20:54:21 pm
inside cleaned and painted (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_dc6180db1d72225a59f1f12ae027b47f.jpg) New bottom modified and primered (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_15f95102f603d612662bc13bbc47ad29.jpg) Yep, as always, junk repro needed different mods (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_8ebb6686da5377926b73cc3e39e5c3e0.jpg)[/list][/quote] Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on February 21, 2007, 20:54:55 pm This needs to be closed up again
(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_dfc4ffa4a50da0795bedbe79a614b285.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_441afacc414d079e96670d44c0db3d2f.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_7ea8053f6992d12cead68d44b13e5b32.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_05253861ed6deccfecabdf5272fe66d6.jpg) some more to do...[/quote] Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on February 21, 2007, 20:55:51 pm I had this lasercut in 3mm steel
(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_70507cc0c1735ee9404e0a6f59e9374f.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_ac96ae509e47762721b9baa5d3aa6644.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_dc13782085284de7f3164de7e62a615e.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_450_600_pjpeg_2556245_e88d8881eb52f452ac9f4275780762c8.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_921f1fa5158ebf6db8f08b5f13826bf9.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_55f0e81785823a4b8df96022bbee0a63.jpg) Should make it easier to change spark plugs :lol:[/quote] Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on February 21, 2007, 20:56:32 pm I need your opinions!
Which front hood badge should I use?? The original style round one, or the DKP style one?? Them 4 longer tabs fold down to clamp it to the front hood... (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_39011a8e4bf723d43cbba4e246c7a3b7.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20070220/dyn007_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_e69755aa2b1b8d99b3df2f5129db2e5d.jpg)[/quote] Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Basti on February 22, 2007, 19:40:25 pm Hi Peter!
Awesome what you are doin there... Like your welding jobs ;D Cheers, Basti Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Sander/DVK on February 22, 2007, 23:49:18 pm What a detaisl!!
Very, very nice! Keep up the good work Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on September 12, 2007, 09:31:27 am It is not becasue the works on the oval body are not proceeding, I stopped collection parts...
Latest acquisition: A genuine set of Italian made 48IDA's... They just arrived from the States:-) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20070911/dyn004_original_450_600_pjpeg_2538859_8412063903d0905b32332130fd0fc80b.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20070911/dyn004_original_600_450_pjpeg_2538859_510dbd1e5314192d5e5dda461fa99a82.jpg) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20070911/dyn004_original_450_600_pjpeg_2538859_80d21c7d45ae6f217173706696b63b2e.jpg) This set has 37mm venturis, F11 emulsion tubes with 135mains. As Idle jet is has a 65F10 in a 120 holder... Does this sounds about right for a SCAT 78.8 * 94 engine with SCAT mini-D port heads?? As a cam I still need to decide, but I would prefer one from the Webcam range and to be used with standard ratio rockers and a 8.5 CR. I would like to focus more on torque then on horsepower... I would like an engine in which I can drive to the VW nationals (500km single trip) or the VolksWorld show (400km) without second thoughts! Any input is appreciated! Any engine combo's you know of I can compare with?? According to the Weber manual I should get an F7 emulsion tube and I really want the lower main jet holder so I can place the middle copper screens. So, things I still need: 4 F7 emulsion tubes 4 low main jet holders 2 copper screens 2 low 48IDA manifolds (as the Berg manifolds) If anyone has these for sale, send me a PM or mail ;)! See YA, Peter Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Tobi/DFL on September 12, 2007, 12:07:56 pm Hi Peter, we have recently tuned my club mate Christian´s 2110ccm type 1 with a LM 1. If I remember correctly the jetting (we were looking for Lambda about 0,85) he now has is as follows:
- 48 IDA with 37mm venturis (no thrid progression hole drilled) - 140 mains - 220 air correction - 70F? idle jets (were too rich, but we had no smaller jet...) - F7 emulsion tubes The engine has lots of torque with these jets but is lacking top end power. Here are the specs: - 2110ccm (76,4 waterboxer crank, 94mm notched P/C) - 10.8:1 CR - Street Eliminator heads, mildly ported, 42/37,5mm valves - FK 87 with 1:1.4 rockers - Udo Becker manifolds I guess that your combo is similar to Christian´s combo so maybe his jetting is a good start for you... Bye, Tobi Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Rob DVKK on September 12, 2007, 16:01:28 pm Hi Tobi,
Sounds like the vents are holding your friends top end back. I would switch up to a 40mm vent and re-jet. In my 2275 94X82 044 super mags (44X37.5) p&p by K-roc web cam 86b with old school scat 1.25 (measure out at 1.38) 9.0:1CR 48 IDA's - ran both 37mm vents and 42mm vents - jetted with LM-1 With the 37's it went 14's at 90+mph in the quarter. Switched out to 42mm vents went 13.4 at 102mph in the quarter The car is a 54 sunroof (1900lbs with me in it) Stock 4.12 tranny only using 3 gears. Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on September 14, 2007, 20:29:36 pm Hey Tobi,
so no 3th progression hole drilled either? Mine have not been drilled sofar and the US dude has been driving like this on his 2,2engine (now he stepped up to 2,4 with 51IDA's)... so I guess I will not drill it immediately, I will see what it gives first. I would not mind loosing a bit in the top end power, as long as the car has lots of torque and can cruise nicely but be responsve when I feel like pushing it! I'm not planning on building a 1/4mile racer, but a streetcar. I want to drive it!! Rob, do you like the 86b or would you consider a diffent cam?? Any idea what the jetting in your carbs is?? Thanks guys for sharing your specs!! Peter PS: No 48IDA left overs anyone?? Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Tobi/DFL on September 14, 2007, 22:03:19 pm Hi Rob,
that´s just what we thought so next week the will be another jetting session...this time with 40mm vents.;-) Peter, the 3rd hole isn´t drilled, yet. I wouldn´t recommend drilling it before you have done some test runs. If won´t get a good progression with differnet jettings, I would at first try other emulsion tubes. If that doesn´t work as well you can still drill the holes... Hope that helps! Tobi Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Rob DVKK on September 15, 2007, 20:14:05 pm HI Tobi,
I think you'll find the engine comes to life with the bigger vents. Peter, In the past I've used the engle 120 and 125 in my 1914's - They were nice. The 86b was recommended by the guy that did my heads (K-roc - in our club) It is a nice cam, comes on strong and pulls hard all the way up. The thinking is that for a street car with stock gears - a little less duration helps build more cylinder pressure and hence more torque. The heads help with the breathing up top so I don't run out of steam. I do have the third progession hole. The jetting right now is F7 - depending on the track conditions I run a 160 or 165 main and anywhere from a 190 to 210 air. Our track is near sea level. For idles I run a 120 air with a 65 - Bruce in our club recommends soldering up the 120 and then re drilling to a 110 or 115 - I still have to do this. To give you an idea of the torque - (http://www.akernel.com/cal_look/mission.jpg) This is a 3500 - 4000 launch with out a burnout. Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on September 16, 2007, 09:00:09 am To give you an idea of the torque - (http://www.akernel.com/cal_look/mission.jpg) This is a 3500 - 4000 launch with out a burnout. Damn that is nice! And you are doing that with a stock tranny, or is it a stonger gearbox, but with the standard ratio gears?? If it is a standard box, no fear of breaking it doing this?? Which shocks do you run up front? I wanted to keep an original gearbox as well (at first anyway), but I as thinking of converting to IRS for several reasons: - I have a good 1303S geabox laying here, no decent SA gearbox (so nice highway cruising) - Handling due to IRS set-up - Easy to change gearboxes in case you break it (really important!), you do not need to touch the brakes while changing the box - Since I plan on driving it regularly on the streets and I want to run FUCHS wheels (4,5 and 6), the obvious choice for disks are Porsche 944 disks (super easy with these a-arms and cheap cmpared to other diskbrake converions) I know, maybe not 100% in line with the cal-look theme, but I consider these important safety upgrades.... But I just need to check if the 6"FUCHS with 205 tyres will still fit the original fender with this IRS set-up... Things to find out this winter :) See YA Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on September 16, 2007, 10:28:24 am Damn that is a nice sight
(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20070916/dyn003_original_450_600_pjpeg_2538859_e25433618bc30f089247c587b5309e31.jpg) Comparison between the SCAT manifold and the CB's IDA manifold: big height difference! (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20070916/dyn003_original_450_600_pjpeg_2538859_fafc6b0240f898927565d67269b7d431.jpg) Isn't there anyone who has the shorter Berg versions for sale? PM me! Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Rob DVKK on September 17, 2007, 16:05:33 pm Hi Peter,
Quote Damn that is nice! And you are doing that with a stock tranny, or is it a stonger gearbox, but with the standard ratio gears?? If it is a standard box, no fear of breaking it doing this?? Which shocks do you run up front? I wanted to keep an original gearbox as well (at first anyway), but I as thinking of converting to IRS for several reasons: - I have a good 1303S geabox laying here, no decent SA gearbox (so nice highway cruising) - Handling due to IRS set-up - Easy to change gearboxes in case you break it (really important!), you do not need to touch the brakes while changing the box - Since I plan on driving it regularly on the streets and I want to run FUCHS wheels (4,5 and 6), the obvious choice for disks are Porsche 944 disks (super easy with these a-arms and cheap cmpared to other diskbrake converions) I know, maybe not 100% in line with the cal-look theme, but I consider these important safety upgrades.... But I just need to check if the 6"FUCHS with 205 tyres will still fit the original fender with this IRS set-up... The tranny is originally a single side cover IRS model that I used to run when I had converted the car to IRS. We took the gear carrier that was in that tranny and then put it in a dual cover IRS case and added the swing super diff (4.12 R&P). Right now I'm using stock axels and a poor mans posi. After seeing the wheels get off the ground I will be changing out the axels this winter to a piar of sway-a-ways. For mounts I use a mohr mid mount and my home built (Berg like) traction bar. The Suspension on this car has always worked well at the track. I run old oil filled (cofap) shock inthe front and rear with bus snubbers in the back. The weight transfer has always been good, it just took putting a pair of slicks on to get the bite (the radials would just spin off the line) The only change I have noticed from going IRS to swing is that corners have to be taken slower, but When I switched I also changed the front tires from 185-55-15 to 135's - so there is a pronounced understeer in corners. Although the car isn't set up to go around corners anymore the look is more than worth it. (http://www.akernel.com/cal_look/car_angle_front.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on September 17, 2007, 18:38:05 pm The look is definately more then worth it! Your oval is looking hard!!
This is the same look as I'm after, but I will try it with the IRS rear end + P944 disks and 6" FUCHS/295 tyres. As for the fronts I will use my 4,5"FUCHS + P944disks and with 145tyres on a 4" PBW narrowed beam. My wheels are off to my polisher (aka fellow club member Philip Dr. Detail - http://flatline-lowriders.skynetblogs.be ), I can not wait to get thel back fully polisihed and detailed!! As you can see... he is really looking forward polishing the 5 wheels (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20070813/dyn006_original_600_450_pjpeg_2538859_591406ae017c92d4b1aee86679b5198f.jpg) But I'm still a bit doubtfull about my rear wheels. I have a set of 6" wheels and a set of 5,5" wheels. Which would you guys use (I have 205 tyres for these wheels) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Rob DVKK on September 17, 2007, 19:15:42 pm Thanks Peter,
Not sure about the back spacing on the Fuchs and how it is affected by the 944 disks, but Bruce in our club has run 225 - 60 - 16's on the back of his beetle (Not sure on the width, but they are Fuchs). They fit real nice. He narrows the rear trailing arms by moving the bearing carrier inwards (About an inch I think) and then uses type 3 automatic IRS axels. Are you going to run larger CV's. When I was running IRS I used thing drive flanges and 924 stub axels. This way I could run T2 CV's that we profiles the cages in. Never broke one - when friends were snapping T1 CV's at the track. Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on September 17, 2007, 19:47:56 pm Thanks Peter, Not sure about the back spacing on the Fuchs and how it is affected by the 944 disks, but Bruce in our club has run 225 - 60 - 16's on the back of his beetle (Not sure on the width, but they are Fuchs). They fit real nice. He narrows the rear trailing arms by moving the bearing carrier inwards (About an inch I think) and then uses type 3 automatic IRS axels. Are you going to run larger CV's. When I was running IRS I used thing drive flanges and 924 stub axels. This way I could run T2 CV's that we profiles the cages in. Never broke one - when friends were snapping T1 CV's at the track. I also think I will have to narrow the trailing arms one way are the other... Do you happen to have some pics of his narrowing conversion? I saw these once on the germanlook froum I think, but I lost the link... Are the T3 automatic IRS axles shorter then the normal IRS ones? That is nice to know:-) I was indeed planning on using the larger P944CV's. These should be the same size as the T2ones, but I still need to confirm this... What do you mean with: "we profiles the cages in". that I do not understand?? See YA Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Rob DVKK on September 17, 2007, 20:10:57 pm Hi Peter - one side is. I think it is the right one. As for profiling the cages - it is when you take the CV apart and pretty much blueprint and make sure there are no stress points in the CV (not really neccessary though).
I pretty sure that Bruce had an article in Hot Vw's back inthe 90's about how to narrow the trailing arms. I'll ask him if he remembers which one. Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Rob DVKK on September 20, 2007, 20:48:07 pm Hi Peter,
It was June of 94 Hot VW's - Bruce had an article on how to narrow the trailing arms and what is required for fitting them. hope this helps. Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on September 21, 2007, 07:25:11 am Hi Peter, It was June of 94 Hot VW's - Bruce had an article on how to narrow the trailing arms and what is required for fitting them. hope this helps. Thanks! Now on to the search for the June 94 HVW's issue :) Anyone who can help me get a copy/scan/picture/... of this narrowing article? See YA! Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 03, 2008, 13:45:31 pm Lots have happened since the last update on the oval (being a complete 64 double cab resto...) but last weekend I weldedn in the IRS mounts in my chassis
(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20071231/dyn004_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_359df87f0678a0cebc1e7b7cba5a70dd.jpg) Positioning (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20071231/dyn004_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_f2ecd80d453783fd32d46fcf9f6c58bd.jpg) Welded! (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20071231/dyn004_original_450_600_pjpeg_2556245_bd5f8e905bca19a7972a157db5890e9d.jpg) Both sides done:-) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20071231/dyn004_original_450_600_pjpeg_2556245_1d79d87bc0827007254a40be25c0b27a.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 03, 2008, 13:46:49 pm Modified the rear gearbox horns for the CV joints. I want to run the bigger Porsche 944 units here as well...
Before (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20071231/dyn004_original_450_600_pjpeg_2556245_3f3a6dc74394ed62a01c77c9309d99c7.jpg) After (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20071231/dyn004_original_450_600_pjpeg_2556245_1da09336d2d4b68922060de70f492ecb.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 03, 2008, 13:48:07 pm And the intermediate Gearbox support
The base, lasercut in 8mm steel (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20071231/dyn004_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_62333288b71926a989c8e94e2f23668b.jpg) Bottom bracket welded (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/556/245/20071231/dyn004_original_600_450_pjpeg_2556245_d1373d96cf81789dfa18a6407ad67271.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 03, 2008, 13:53:16 pm As I said before... I want to build a true callooker oval beetle, but with some German look chassis inspiration to make it really streetable!! Therefore I would like to install these 944 parts on my oval beetle, but there are a few issues that needs to be dealt with:
The Porsche 944 springplate are an adjustable type, so finetuning the height is possible, but this needs trimming (I assume best would be on the chassis itself) (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20071231/dyn004_original_450_600_pjpeg_2538859_4f4b8cc3d17b3df32e7396d89e9a7bfd.jpg) The exentric bolts which makes the height-adjusting possible (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20071231/dyn004_original_600_450_pjpeg_2538859_e344dd98d744b9cddadfb1233d54eaed.jpg) But the back of these bolts sits behind the rubber carrier... trimming is needed there as well (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20071231/dyn004_original_600_450_pjpeg_2538859_60856962c234e6c0a6b7e3727e381b83.jpg) And I would like to install this rear tracktion bar as well, but then the beetles frame horns are in the way... mayne if I position this tracktion bar a bit farther from the torsion tube then the original Porsche position? (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20071231/dyn004_original_600_450_pjpeg_2538859_10678569a295273f7dba4b2b24ce3836.jpg) If there is anyone that has done this and can give me some advise... let me know! Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: levis on January 08, 2008, 10:01:06 am here's how we did it. just welded the brackets on the chassis.
(http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/58966.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 08, 2008, 11:25:48 am Thanks! That is indeed a nice solution as well:-)
What are the other specs of your chassiswork, planned engine, brakes, … ? Which year of chassis? * What I can see it that you also have the adjustable springplates… Porsche 944 as well?? By the way… how do you take them apart? If you remove the 2 bolts, can you separate these easily then? What did you do as clearancing / making the back of the bolts accessible for adjusting? * And what did you use as the rubber carrier?? The modified Porsche unit or a custom made unit with bearings or rubbers? The rubbers on these seems to be attached… did you got it off and replaced? Can it be replaced with standard beetle items? * I see you have the Franky’s VW service gearbox cradle as well. I bought one at the KWF last weekend as well… should be nice when I start to make the rear brace. Did you make/buy one as well? It would be great to see some more pics as well, so keep them coming! Any info is greatly appreciated!! Peter Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: levis on January 08, 2008, 13:07:54 pm Thanks! That is indeed a nice solution as well:-) What are the other specs of your chassiswork, planned engine, brakes, … ? Which year of chassis? * What I can see it that you also have the adjustable springplates… Porsche 944 as well?? By the way… how do you take them apart? If you remove the 2 bolts, can you separate these easily then? What did you do as clearancing / making the back of the bolts accessible for adjusting? * And what did you use as the rubber carrier?? The modified Porsche unit or a custom made unit with bearings or rubbers? The rubbers on these seems to be attached… did you got it off and replaced? Can it be replaced with standard beetle items? * I see you have the Franky’s VW service gearbox cradle as well. I bought one at the KWF last weekend as well… should be nice when I start to make the rear brace. Did you make/buy one as well? It would be great to see some more pics as well, so keep them coming! Any info is greatly appreciated!! Peter This is my brothers project. it's going to be a german style beetle. it's a 1972 bug with 944 brakes in the front and 944 suspension and brakes in the rear. we didn't separate the springplates, but they are adjustable by turning the the exentric bolts. we used the same rubbers that where on the springplates, we didn't removed them. if the rubbers are good, just leave them. these rubbers are from a good quality. the rubber carrier is from a porsche 924 en we modified them. if you already got these carriers, try to modify them. they are low in weight and very strong. what do you mean with rear brace? Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: Ivan on January 08, 2008, 15:35:29 pm Looking good Peter! Good luck with the rest of the project. If you need any help, you know where I am!
Hope to see you soon, maybe March at Ninove. Ivan Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 08, 2008, 15:52:43 pm So we have the same goal with the chassis (road-handling and reliability), the big difference will be the body on top of the chassis.
I still have the original 944 Alu rubber carriers and I was planning on getting them modified as well by cutting off all excess parts and polish/paint them afterwards:-) Did you had clearance issues due to the back of the excentric and fixation bolt touching the chassis leg?? First I will have to clearance the front of the spring plate a bit so I can position the springplate further inwards the torsion tube housing (see pic above of clearance issue) and check where it really touches… Did you use any spacers around this area? What are you guys using as drive flanges? I was thinking of using the 181 gearbox flanges and the Porsche 944 axles together with the Porsche drive shafts (may even narrowing the rear track with 25mm per side to get to the original oval beetles rear track) With the rear brace I mean this (http://www.csp-shop.de/shop/images/artikel/17704.jpg) I was thinking of making one myself… CSP has one (300 euro), Frankys VW Service as well (200 euro), … This I already made to tie in the gearbox: (http://www.csp-shop.de/shop/images/artikel/11351.jpg) Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: peter - belgium on January 08, 2008, 15:58:54 pm Looking good Peter! Good luck with the rest of the project. If you need any help, you know where I am! Hope to see you soon, maybe March at Ninove. Ivan Hey Ivan, For sure I will see you again at Ninove… I hope to be there with my new (but still not 100% defined – so anything can still happen) project, if not it will be with the trusty old SLAMBULANCE :)! See YA then! Peter Title: Re: 57 Oval Post by: levis on January 08, 2008, 16:34:59 pm So we have the same goal with the chassis (road-handling and reliability), the big difference will be the body on top of the chassis. I still have the original 944 Alu rubber carriers and I was planning on getting them modified as well by cutting off all excess parts and polish/paint them afterwards:-) Did you had clearance issues due to the back of the excentric and fixation bolt touching the chassis leg?? First I will have to clearance the front of the spring plate a bit so I can position the springplate further inwards the torsion tube housing (see pic above of clearance issue) and check where it really touches… Did you use any spacers around this area? You mean this pic. (http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/538/859/20071231/dyn004_original_600_450_pjpeg_2538859_60856962c234e6c0a6b7e3727e381b83.jpg) we had no trouble with it. there is enough clearence. What are you guys using as drive flanges? I was thinking of using the 181 gearbox flanges and the Porsche 944 axles together with the Porsche drive shafts (may even narrowing the rear track with 25mm per side to get to the original oval beetles rear track) it is a gearbox of a 1303. he used these flanges but replaced the axles for a longer type of a type 3. because we have porsche 944 alu axles, the car is getting wider in the back. With the rear brace I mean this (http://www.csp-shop.de/shop/images/artikel/17704.jpg) I was thinking of making one myself… CSP has one (300 euro), Frankys VW Service as well (200 euro), … My brother got his rear brace/cup-strebe from Ebay.de. i already searched for some items, but there's nothing on ebay at the moment. just take a look after a while. my brother got the cup-strebe for (i guess) 100 euro, and it is a good quality product. if you have a rear brace. mount it with the engine en the exhaust on it. it is a tight fit!! This I already made to tie in the gearbox: (http://www.csp-shop.de/shop/images/artikel/11351.jpg) here's another pic of the chassis, still needs some work (http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/59089.jpg) |