Title: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on April 10, 2009, 22:04:39 pm Hey Fabs if you don't mind dude ;) :)
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Diederick/DVK on April 10, 2009, 22:08:02 pm i don't think there's much known about it.
apart from the feature and the sales ad... Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on April 10, 2009, 22:10:58 pm here's one to start things off ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Diederick/DVK on April 10, 2009, 22:47:49 pm frickin beauty ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Rennsurfer on April 11, 2009, 00:04:28 am One of my favorite D.K.P. and Cal Look cars of all time. I still have a copy of the ad that he gave me back in the '80s. Thus, once again, proving that fast/good looking Cal Lookers CAN have a heater. Hee! Hee!
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on April 11, 2009, 00:27:20 am Hmm your not the only one dude its in my Top 5 Thats for sure - It just needs to be painted "Willow Green" ;)
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Rennsurfer on April 11, 2009, 00:34:28 am Hmm your not the only one dude its in my Top 5 Thats for sure - It just needs to be painted "Willow Green" ;) Agreed. That would look stellar. My favorite feature on that car will always be the wheels. That finish is über älles! As are the black lugs. Extremely proper in my not-so-humble opinion. Carry on. Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Fastbrit on April 11, 2009, 08:42:55 am Hmm your not the only one dude its in my Top 5 Thats for sure - It just needs to be painted "Willow Green" ;) You sure? Jim Logudice... Jim Smith... Mike Billings... I see a trend here. :D :-*Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on April 11, 2009, 11:20:51 am Hmm your not the only one dude its in my Top 5 Thats for sure - It just needs to be painted "Willow Green" ;) You sure? Jim Logudice... Jim Smith... Mike Billings... I see a trend here. :D :-*Didn't you get my PM ::) Don't wiorry Master I am back on the true patch (just not the RED path :-*) Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: speedwell on April 11, 2009, 11:52:39 am sorry lee but as diederick said , there's only the ad for the sale and the report in vw trends
and this picture from hotvws ;) fabs Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Diederick/DVK on April 11, 2009, 11:55:44 am wow, did he participate in the "engine in-and-out" contest?? ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: OgCalLook on April 11, 2009, 19:26:07 pm I'm diggin' those 7" Fuchs 8)
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: speedwell on April 11, 2009, 19:30:05 pm oh yes and there's this one ;)
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on April 11, 2009, 19:58:00 pm oh yes and there's this one ;) Come on I know you got more dude ;) Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Diederick/DVK on April 13, 2009, 21:13:52 pm luvly pic that last one ;D
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: deano on April 13, 2009, 21:34:15 pm You gotta' wonder what happened to this cool car? I know that Rich Kimball has some knowledge of where it went after Mike sold it, but that certainly was decades ago. Could it still exist?
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on April 13, 2009, 21:41:15 pm You gotta' wonder what happened to this cool car? I know that Rich Kimball has some knowledge of where it went after Mike sold it, but that certainly was decades ago. Could it still exist? Someone did mention it going to the land of the rising sun :-\ ::) This is the one car I would give ANYTHING to buy and that includes selling my manx :o Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Fastbrit on April 13, 2009, 21:42:07 pm You gotta' wonder what happened to this cool car? I know that Rich Kimball has some knowledge of where it went after Mike sold it, but that certainly was decades ago. Could it still exist? Yeah, Russell and I have tracked it down and are flying over Bug-In weekend to check it out...Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on April 13, 2009, 21:44:09 pm You gotta' wonder what happened to this cool car? I know that Rich Kimball has some knowledge of where it went after Mike sold it, but that certainly was decades ago. Could it still exist? Yeah, Russell and I have tracked it down and are flying over Bug-In weekend to check it out...yeah yeah yeah oh and is that a monkey flying out my Butt :D :D :D Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Fastbrit on April 13, 2009, 22:11:13 pm is that a monkey flying out my Butt :D :D :D Well, I did wonder... :-*Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on April 13, 2009, 22:14:08 pm is that a monkey flying out my Butt :D :D :D Well, I did wonder... :-*you ain't fooloin me master :-* I am serious though I would give ANYTHING for that car :) Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Rennsurfer on June 10, 2009, 04:52:19 am While looking for some old VW parts, tonight... I found my April 1981 copy if VW & Porsche magazine. It features a car that Lee and I sort of like.
;D For your viewing pleasure: (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/Billings67.jpg) (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/Billings672.jpg) (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/Billings673.jpg) (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/Billings674.jpg) Man, I miss seeing this car. For it's time, it was quite the creative and eye pleasing vehicle. Just noticed that the sun visors look like an early on the left and late one on the right/passenger side. Never noticed that before. Aw... why not? I just scanned the cover for ya, too. (http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/Billings67Cover.jpg) I apologize for the crappy scans. This magazine was one of the few that didn't fare too well over the years. I've had this copy since I was 19 years young. A LONG time ago. HAHA!! Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Jim LoGudice on June 10, 2009, 05:52:18 am Rich Kimball owned the car for a short period in the 80's when he had "Bugs For You". Rich drove it sometimes and it really ran with that 2 liter and 5-speed. If I remember correctly, he sold it to a young teen-ager from Riverside for $7-7.5K.
Regards, Jim Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: rick m on June 10, 2009, 07:22:09 am I'm installing 7's on my chop top. They look great on the back end of a sedan. My 66 Street car, which I drove to the Classic one year and a couple other events like the BERG CRUISE to Denver Bug-In, had 7" FUCHs on the rear. They are a great look. Here are couple shots of it.
Rick M Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on June 10, 2009, 10:34:59 am Rich Kimball owned the car for a short period in the 80's when he had "Bugs For You". Rich drove it sometimes and it really ran with that 2 liter and 5-speed. If I remember correctly, he sold it to a young teen-ager from Riverside for $7-7.5K. Regards, Jim Hmmmm so it was still in Riverside in the 80's :-\ I had heard it went to Japan - I REALLY want to find this car! ;D Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: speedwell on June 10, 2009, 16:28:22 pm :o :o :o never seen this report before mark thx 8) 8)
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on June 10, 2009, 17:48:11 pm :o :o :o never seen this report before mark thx 8) 8) I knew there was more info on this AWESOME bug ;D Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: nicolas on June 10, 2009, 18:39:52 pm Rich Kimball owned the car for a short period in the 80's when he had "Bugs For You". Rich drove it sometimes and it really ran with that 2 liter and 5-speed. If I remember correctly, he sold it to a young teen-ager from Riverside for $7-7.5K. Regards, Jim Hmmmm so it was still in Riverside in the 80's :-\ I had heard it went to Japan - I REALLY want to find this car! ;D would be great to look into the history off this car a bit more. Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on June 10, 2009, 19:36:40 pm Rich Kimball owned the car for a short period in the 80's when he had "Bugs For You". Rich drove it sometimes and it really ran with that 2 liter and 5-speed. If I remember correctly, he sold it to a young teen-ager from Riverside for $7-7.5K. Regards, Jim Hmmmm so it was still in Riverside in the 80's :-\ I had heard it went to Japan - I REALLY want to find this car! ;D would be great to look into the history off this car a bit more. yep and buy it for myself ;D Shhh don't tell Mr Richie ;) Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on June 11, 2009, 02:08:17 am Just been checkin these new pic's again - Its just such a tough lookin little bug - I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
but seriously where is it now ??? Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Jim LoGudice on June 11, 2009, 02:46:01 am Just been checkin these new pic's again - Its just such a tough lookin little bug - I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D Hey Fabs,but seriously where is it now ??? I'll ask Kimball who he sold it to, (if he remembers) and I will post it to you. I just remember that it was a really young man and his parents bought it for him-I remember them picking it up at the shop. Maybe it will give you a start. As you said, it may have gone to to Japan, I know that's where mine went. Regards, Jim Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Rennsurfer on June 11, 2009, 05:17:01 am :o :o :o never seen this report before mark thx 8) 8) Any time, Fabian. Us archival geeks gotta do what we do, yes? ;D Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on June 11, 2009, 09:05:15 am Just been checkin these new pic's again - Its just such a tough lookin little bug - I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D Hey Fabs,but seriously where is it now ??? I'll ask Kimball who he sold it to, (if he remembers) and I will post it to you. I just remember that it was a really young man and his parents bought it for him-I remember them picking it up at the shop. Maybe it will give you a start. As you said, it may have gone to to Japan, I know that's where mine went. Regards, Jim Thanks Jim but I'm Lee aka monkiboy - Fabs is Speedwell ;) :) again thanks for trying Jim - I rerally want to locate this car and maybe one day even buy it :o Shhhhh ;) Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: speedwell on June 11, 2009, 15:41:32 pm :o :o :o never seen this report before mark thx 8) 8) Any time, Fabian. Us archival geeks gotta do what we do, yes? ;D Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Jim LoGudice on June 11, 2009, 18:02:08 pm Just been checkin these new pic's again - Its just such a tough lookin little bug - I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D Hey Fabs,but seriously where is it now ??? I'll ask Kimball who he sold it to, (if he remembers) and I will post it to you. I just remember that it was a really young man and his parents bought it for him-I remember them picking it up at the shop. Maybe it will give you a start. As you said, it may have gone to to Japan, I know that's where mine went. Regards, Jim Thanks Jim but I'm Lee aka monkiboy - Fabs is Speedwell ;) :) again thanks for trying Jim - I rerally want to locate this car and maybe one day even buy it :o Shhhhh ;) The late 60's was a very blurry time growing up and I have a tuff time remembering my only name, Jim. How do you guys do it? Sorry for the mistake but I will still let you know what I find out. Regards, Jim Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on June 11, 2009, 18:13:59 pm Just been checkin these new pic's again - Its just such a tough lookin little bug - I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D Hey Fabs,but seriously where is it now ??? I'll ask Kimball who he sold it to, (if he remembers) and I will post it to you. I just remember that it was a really young man and his parents bought it for him-I remember them picking it up at the shop. Maybe it will give you a start. As you said, it may have gone to to Japan, I know that's where mine went. Regards, Jim Thanks Jim but I'm Lee aka monkiboy - Fabs is Speedwell ;) :) again thanks for trying Jim - I rerally want to locate this car and maybe one day even buy it :o Shhhhh ;) The late 60's was a very blurry time growing up and I have a tuff time remembering my only name, Jim. How do you guys do it? Sorry for the mistake but I will still let you know what I find out. Regards, Jim No worries dude :D I'm just dying to find out what happened to it :) oh and I'm sure my friend Fabs is too ;) Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: speedwell on June 11, 2009, 18:41:46 pm Just been checkin these new pic's again - Its just such a tough lookin little bug - I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D Hey Fabs,but seriously where is it now ??? I'll ask Kimball who he sold it to, (if he remembers) and I will post it to you. I just remember that it was a really young man and his parents bought it for him-I remember them picking it up at the shop. Maybe it will give you a start. As you said, it may have gone to to Japan, I know that's where mine went. Regards, Jim Thanks Jim but I'm Lee aka monkiboy - Fabs is Speedwell ;) :) again thanks for trying Jim - I rerally want to locate this car and maybe one day even buy it :o Shhhhh ;) The late 60's was a very blurry time growing up and I have a tuff time remembering my only name, Jim. How do you guys do it? Sorry for the mistake but I will still let you know what I find out. Regards, Jim No worries dude :D I'm just dying to find out what happened to it :) oh and I'm sure my friend Fabs is too ;) rgd guys fabs :D Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on June 11, 2009, 18:59:11 pm To much chat we neeeeeeeeed a pic ;)
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: speedwell on June 11, 2009, 19:04:00 pm ;)
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: speedwell on June 11, 2009, 19:04:47 pm ;)
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on June 11, 2009, 19:34:38 pm I knew you had more honey :-* ;) :)
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Cornpanzer on June 12, 2009, 02:54:37 am Asked Dyno Don about the Billings car and this is what he had to say on my voicemail.
"was one of the nicest cars that I ever had the chance to work on, to color-sand and buff, to finish for Bug-In, to drive, to take care of....it was ...a nice car. One of the top 5 or so cars. It was sold to Marv Hendricks son - Marv was the co-owner of Saddleback park. The kid had it for a very short time-one or two years - and it was sold. Dont know anything about it, havent seen it, havent heard about it. I dont think anyone else has seen or heard about it. Thats my story, sorry I couldnt be more help." Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on June 12, 2009, 10:27:19 am Asked Dyno Don about the Billings car and this is what he had to say on my voicemail. "was one of the nicest cars that I ever had the chance to work on, to color-sand and buff, to finish for Bug-In, to drive, to take care of....it was ...a nice car. One of the top 5 or so cars. It was sold to Marv Hendricks son - Marv was the co-owner of Saddleback park. The kid had it for a very short time-one or two years - and it was sold. Dont know anything about it, havent seen it, havent heard about it. I dont think anyone else has seen or heard about it. Thats my story, sorry I couldnt be more help." Hmmm interesting Thanks Dave :) would it be worth checking with the DMV to find out if it's still in the States :-\ :) Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Jim Ratto on June 30, 2009, 23:20:52 pm I could read about this car all day, it really captures what a fast hot rod VW should be. I wouldn't change one thing.
you guys remember this post right? http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,2612.msg33983.html#msg33983 very cool car. Thanks for all the posts. Jim R. Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Jim Ratto on July 01, 2009, 23:01:28 pm think my favorite part of this car is the frosted finish on the alloys....especially those 7"
trying to picture my car on those...... drool Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Rennsurfer on July 02, 2009, 00:18:48 am think my favorite part of this car is the frosted finish on the alloys....especially those 7" trying to picture my car on those...... drool YESSIR! That was my favorite part of that car, as well. When I first saw it, I couldn't stop staring at the rear wheels for the width and finish. I was so stoked to see someone actually be bold and NOT polish their alloys. Especially during a time when everyone was (barf!) fully polishing every wheel they could. Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Jim LoGudice on July 02, 2009, 01:41:52 am think my favorite part of this car is the frosted finish on the alloys....especially those 7" trying to picture my car on those...... drool YESSIR! That was my favorite part of that car, as well. When I first saw it, I couldn't stop staring at the rear wheels for the width and finish. I was so stoked to see someone actually be bold and NOT polish their alloys. Especially during a time when everyone was (barf!) fully polishing every wheel they could. Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on July 02, 2009, 02:16:30 am think my favorite part of this car is the frosted finish on the alloys....especially those 7" trying to picture my car on those...... drool I love those wheels too dude - Trust me when I say this car is a BIG influence on PROJECT 66 ;) :) Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Rennsurfer on July 02, 2009, 06:42:13 am I agree, the satin finished alloys were always the best. The first car that had satin 7's on the rear as I remember was Keith Goss's chop top. That car was a beauty too! Amen to that... Keith's car was COOL! Another Cal Looker ahead of it's time, in the grand scheme of things. Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: delux67 on November 15, 2009, 01:18:18 am One of my favorite D.K.P. and Cal Look cars of all time. I still have a copy of the ad that he gave me back in the '80s. Thus, once again, proving that fast/good looking Cal Lookers CAN have a heater. Hee! Hee! Yes they can have a heater and I can tell you how to do it.Mike Billings Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: danny gabbard on November 15, 2009, 02:19:04 am A friend of mine in new mexico bought it and made a class 1 baja out of it about 8-9 years ago
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Rennsurfer on November 15, 2009, 04:44:57 am Yes they can have a heater and I can tell you how to do it. Mike Billings I've done it with 1 5/8" lightened flanged fresh air heater boxes. Rick Sadler's car has modified stale air ones. Gotta have the heater for my girlfriend. Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: speedwell on November 15, 2009, 10:44:11 am Rich Kimball owned the car for a short period in the 80's when he had "Bugs For You". Rich drove it sometimes and it really ran with that 2 liter and 5-speed. If I remember correctly, he sold it to a young teen-ager from Riverside for $7-7.5K. Regards, Jim A friend of mine in new mexico bought it and made a class 1 baja out of it about 8-9 years ago if it's true , it's really sad to see one of the most beautiful cal look finishes its life as it :'( :'( fabs Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: 67worshipper on November 15, 2009, 11:45:01 am Yes they can have a heater and I can tell you how to do it. Mike Billings I've done it with 1 5/8" lightened fresh air heater boxes. Rick Sadler's car has modified stale air ones. Gotta have the heater for my girlfriend. Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: DOUG BERG on November 16, 2009, 09:05:54 am BACK IN THE EIGHTEE'S I USE TO EAT LUNCH WITH KEITH EVERYDAY,,, & HEAD DOWN AFTER WORK TO SCRAPE THE PAN OF THE "THECHOP"..... WELL KEITH HAD ALOT TO DO WITH MIKES CAR!!! ONE NIGHT AFTER WORK I END UP AT KEITHS,,, THERE WAS A GUARD RAIL AT HE END OF THE STREET JUST OUTSIDE THE GARAGE... AND HERE'S BILLING'S (SCREAMIN THE NEW AC/DC FULL BLAST) BEATIN ON THE GUARD RAIL WITH A POLICE BATTON!!!! I'M ON A HIGHWAY TO HELL!!!
GOOD MEMORIES YEAH!!! DOUG.... Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: delux67 on November 17, 2009, 06:07:22 am He certainly did have a lot to do with my car. I remember the guard rail at the end of the street but I have absolutly no recollection of beating the guard rail with a police baton. I may have been singing though. Yes good memories.
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: ugly duckling on November 17, 2009, 07:00:45 am good one danny.
Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: DOUG BERG on November 17, 2009, 10:08:57 am WHATEVER STICK IT WAS!!!
KEITH WAS DOWN A COUPLE MONTHS AGO!!! LOOK'N GOOD!!! GOT HIS # IF YA DONT HAVE!!! WERE YOU THERE WHEN WE ROLL'D THAT GREEN BOWLIN BALL DOWN PALAIS AT BILBOA IN THE VOLVO??? HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREEN RUBBER BALL & AIM'D FOR IT... TO SMASH IT,,,, & THE BALL WON!!!! STOP BY SOME TIME MIKE.... SAME BATCAVE,,,, SAME BATPHONE,,,, " SPEEDWAY " INDUSTRY HILLS,,, (WEDS. NITES) IN THE SPRING AGAIN!!!! COVER'D EQUESTRIAN PARK!!! ALOT OF THE OLD TIMERS ARE BACK THERE TOO!!!! "TOO HIP GOTTA GO"!!! DOUG..... Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: delux67 on May 02, 2012, 13:19:35 pm I'M BACK IN BLACK YA I'M BACK IN BLACK ;D
AND I HAVE PHOTOS EVEN OF KEITH GOSS WITH HIS PANTS DOWN SKIVIES EXPOSED IN FRONT OF AN AANAHEIM PD COP. HE LIKED DROPPING TROU IN PUBLIC. Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: delux67 on May 02, 2012, 13:51:58 pm YEA I'M BACK IN BLACK , BACK IN BLACK BEEN GONE TOO LONG BUT I'M GLAD TO BE BACK
This AC/DC quote is for Doug Berg whose memory is as sharp as a tack and as impactful as a policeman's night stick. He remembers me beating out the rhythm to Highway to Hell on a guard rail at the dead end street next to Keith Goss's house with s night stick. Now I got to get to scanning. Lots of images. Wish I had more. Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on May 05, 2012, 17:30:04 pm Any news of the 67 ??? :)
Good to see you back on here dude ;D Title: Re: Hey Fabs - How about a Mike Billing thread ;) Post by: Lee.C on May 22, 2013, 22:05:20 pm So its been a while..... Any news ??? :)
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