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Title: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Stephan S on June 03, 2009, 20:41:47 pm
Just curious if any Porsche oil filters might replace the popular FRAM HP1, K&N 3001, System 1 filters?
If yes, what would be Porsche's part number and/or model?
I imagine a Porsche filter won't fit, as the tread is metric (?)


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Rasser on June 03, 2009, 21:38:35 pm
Canīt you just change the thread insert in the remote filter mount to fit your application, if the porsche threads donīt match? I think you can get thread inserts with different threads in either end.


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 04, 2009, 04:09:44 am
the Mahle OC54 I think will fit (911)


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: 181 on June 04, 2009, 13:52:27 pm
OC28...factory filter for P914 and other Type IV engines...same thread as HP1, nice filter I think!

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_nKjezkastzY/Sd5dzzYgdgI/AAAAAAAABX4/BkW5gniDnQw/s640/DSC00663.JPG)


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Sarge on June 04, 2009, 14:26:52 pm

the Mahle OC54 I think will fit (911)


 >:( your supposed to be on vacation...getouttahere!!!! ;D


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Stephan S on June 05, 2009, 05:34:02 am
Thanks for all your answers!


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: stealth67vw on June 05, 2009, 05:47:48 am
OC28...factory filter for P914 and other Type IV engines...same thread as HP1, nice filter I think!

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_nKjezkastzY/Sd5dzzYgdgI/AAAAAAAABX4/BkW5gniDnQw/s640/DSC00663.JPG)
HP1 is 3/4-16 thread. Type 4 is metric 20M x 1.5 thread.


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: 181 on June 05, 2009, 07:26:23 am
This is weird both my filters (Fram HP1 and Mahle/Knecht OC28 screw on my adapter smoothly and nicely. 

edit: this is what I got from my Mahle filter datasheet:

OC28: Screw-on Fliter Height 95 mm 0 92 mm Thread Size D1 = 3/4"-16UNF-2B D2= 72 mm D3= 62 mm


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 06, 2009, 01:54:36 am
rabbit 056115561G filter fits same adapter @ HP1 too. Baldwin B253 replaces HP1 and Porsche OC54, btw. 021115351A (oc28) fits same thread.
Steph if you need a 911 filter let me know and I'll bring one Sunday.


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Rennsurfer on June 06, 2009, 02:09:00 am
That's great news regarding the Rabbit filter. I've always wondered if a factory VW one would fit when I put together my big engine. Thanks, Jim. Also, what's your opinion regarding Baldwin filters? I use those on every type of engine where I work. I service gasoline/diesel dispenser pumps and varying sized generator engines, using Baldwin stuff. So far, they seem okay. Just wondering if anyone recommends them for air cooled oil filters. I can get 'em for really cheap, too. One of the many fringe benefits of my job.


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Steve DKK on June 06, 2009, 02:16:54 am
Guys, whats wrong with the HP1? 
I have blow a PH8A and some other stock filters trying to save space with smaller/shorter filters,
I will never run anything but a HP1


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Rennsurfer on June 06, 2009, 02:20:25 am
Nothing wrong with the HP1, Steve. Actually, I think it has a proper check valve and it's designed to withstand some good sized temps and pressures. I just like using factory stuff as opposed to aftermarket components. Working at a few German car dealers tends to do that. HAHA!!


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: stealth67vw on June 06, 2009, 06:33:39 am
HP1s are garbage. Fram has fallen from grace many moons ago. They have a plastic flap for a check valve and once they bypass, they continue to bypass. I use the Wix 51515R or Napa Gold 1515R (same). They have a proper coil spring bypass, they have a higher burst rating, they have more square inches of filtering area, they are more readily available and are $3-6 dollars cheaper than an HP1.

http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/index.html


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: RhoadsVW on June 06, 2009, 07:52:06 am
I changed from Fram to the Wix 51515R a couple years ago after learning of Fram's manufacturing changes.  Wix has always been one of the finest filters made besides Baldwin.   Dave Rhoads


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Steve DKK on June 06, 2009, 08:59:01 am
I guess Fram has turned to crap without me knowing.

Thanks


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Hotrodvw on June 06, 2009, 09:12:48 am
HP1s are garbage. Fram has fallen from grace many moons ago. They have a plastic flap for a check valve and once they bypass, they continue to bypass. I use the Wix 51515R or Napa Gold 1515R (same). They have a proper coil spring bypass, they have a higher burst rating, they have more square inches of filtering area, they are more readily available and are $3-6 dollars cheaper than an HP1.

http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/index.html

After you turned me on to these, even more so after reading that article,I shit canned my HP1.   ;D


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Rennsurfer on June 06, 2009, 14:30:00 pm
Dang, I wasn't aware of th Fram HP1 changes. Thanks for the education, guys.


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: alex d on June 08, 2009, 11:30:59 am
I use 068.115.561B, I think it's for Diesel 1st gen Golfs  (Rabbit for you americans)


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Jim Ratto on June 09, 2009, 21:08:35 pm
That's great news regarding the Rabbit filter. I've always wondered if a factory VW one would fit when I put together my big engine. Thanks, Jim. Also, what's your opinion regarding Baldwin filters? I use those on every type of engine where I work. I service gasoline/diesel dispenser pumps and varying sized generator engines, using Baldwin stuff. So far, they seem okay. Just wondering if anyone recommends them for air cooled oil filters. I can get 'em for really cheap, too. One of the many fringe benefits of my job.

The Mann rabbit filter W719/5 was the first full flow filter I ran, way back in late 1980s. This was with a 26mm CB pump I think and Kendall GT1 40wt.
I soon learned that they didn't like cold oil during the winter. I blew 3 or 4 o-rings out before I changed to HP1... way back then I think they were ok. At least they didn't blow off, even with Melling pump and 40W Kendall in the winter.... well unless I was dumb and wound the thing up cold. This was back when the HP1's looked like they used to...and you got a decal in the box.
I noticed oil pressure fluctuations over the last 10 years when running HP1, so I stopped using them. I went to Canton-Mecca but have had trouble finding replacement seal for old style canisters (not the blue ones). I'm using the Baldwin now Mark and more oil pressure, no fluctuations. I've yet to send my oil in for analysis... I still have a vial waiting to go. Too much other crap going on. If you can get the B253 easily I'd run that filter.


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: PIMPPRIDE on June 09, 2009, 22:51:23 pm
do the mahle filters have an internal bypass in them? I have been using the OC47 for a few years now without issues...

Anthony / ISP WEST


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Tony M on June 10, 2009, 00:47:10 am
Use the Wix - as John said - HP1 gone to shit - Wix is a very good filter - sometimes i dont warm up my engine and have driven to work - have seen close to 100psi of oil pressure and never had a single problem - sides doent even bulge.


Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Rennsurfer on June 10, 2009, 00:58:54 am
I'm using the Baldwin now Mark and more oil pressure, no fluctuations. I've yet to send my oil in for analysis... I still have a vial waiting to go. Too much other crap going on. If you can get the B253 easily I'd run that filter.

Cool! Thanks for the tip. This works out nicely, 'cause I have their entire catalogue at my disposal.



Title: Re: Remote oil filter: Porsche?
Post by: Whiterag on June 10, 2009, 13:11:09 pm
have got a Jaycee re-usable to swap with my fram- are these worth the extra??