The Cal-look Lounge

Anyone get pictures of Doug Mische's old GHIA at the Classic? Did they get it done with motor and all?

Rick Mortensen

Absolutely! I'm sure there will be lots of pics. It was looking great warts and all.

I had a great talk with Russell too.

Keith and Russell rolled in right behind me.

Please post more pictures of the ghia
thanks

Yes Rick it was there and at the DKP meet at Nicks, Ill post pictures over the next few days.....

However a massive thank you to Richie Webb and Jo Clifford for all their help and running about in order to make it happen, in one week they achevied the following.

New Engine Build and install
Gearbox overhaul and repair
New Interior made and installed
new brakes and upgrade to porsche pattern
Fuchs were refurbished within the week
full body mop and polish

A Job well done.  ;D

I would also like to thank the vendors that helped with this Mike at Rancho, Westminsters Interiors, VWGG USA and all others, (richie will update list when he has time)

The car was stunning when completed on Thursday and as i was so proud to drive it to the crusie night at Nicks after driving to Lenny Copp and Roger Crawfords (headsup performance) open days.

Nice exit from Nick's :) Wish I woulda got that on film!

Here are few pictures for you. I was on my way to eat lunch, it's on 91 going west :o

Those are great photos - with the colour of them it's difficult to tell when they were taken! :)

What's more interesting is the double cab in front. That is the old Race Shop bus, once owned by Darrell Vittone! All it needs is the correct McPeak/Molly paint job.....

i was supposing that in my mind  but not sure  ;D ;D

Is this the BUS you are talking about?

Dean has secret spy's that see all and know all. The plate is off another 68 bus. It was at Nick's and the right door was sanded down so one could see the old paint job underneath. 

                                                      That's a very silly question, Chicky- Baby.

The same guy that owns the Race Shop Fiat.... ;)

euhhhhhhhhhhh..................Russell Ritchie?   ???   :D great

thanks for the pictures
 :P :P :P :P :P :P

But, wouldn't it be cooler than cool to sand the white off the top all over and unearth the old paint rather than having it all repainted - it'd be a shame to have it look like a replica.

Mark, i believe Russel bought the crew cab .It used to have a license plate on it ECONO. I believe Russel bought it from Frank Kolweiss. I should have bought it years ago but passed.

you need to keep up on new lingo and get in the groove... LMAO OG BFF....excuse me while I figure out WTF it means to "tweeter" ::) somebody.

ok seriously, my buddy Ray up north has been getting that Bus up to speed for Russell, yep it's the real deal... DV's old truck. Ray found some neat stuff stashed inside too while working on it.

Correct. Soon to be joined by the trailer, too. Then we can recreate this photo… :)
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/Photokernow/FiatTruck.jpg)

awesome picture keith  :o :o,, hurry to be at the next ebi in 2011 or 2013   ;D ;D

That is indeed an awesome pic Keith, thanks for sharing!

i thought a tweeter was a speaker.  pea shooters have always been pea shooters.  i'm too old to twitter.

Hey Jim I need a ride.........

Cool pics of the Race Shop duo.  Batman AND Robin.

                                                                                               Thank God for you, Mark!

Did he smoke it? ::) ;D

That would assume.... DV smoked wacky tobacy back then. And if DV did, that meant GA, RF, MT, JH, JE and many others did as well. Figure that one out.... 8)

But what about DK? ;D

Ah, er, I can't seem to remember that far back... cough, cough, yawn.

gosh guys.... they were just old orig DCNF rebuild kits or something.  ::)

smoke em?.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySjTIlbi3X8

Richie you're a  Madman. That guy does not know the meaning of the word lift.... cowabunga!

That was great :)
We saw Richie the next moning at OCTO... His response. "They didn't prep the track very well" ::)

A video from the other side of the street would show what happened better ;)

cheers richie,uk

Russell, you've got a tail light out... MOT fail. :D

Looks like a cool night guys  :)

safety first dude

tailight ???

Not something to worry about when going forward at speed....... anyway just another thing that Richie didnt fix correctly !!!

you mean the part were you can see Jo smack you in the head  ;D

btw, what engine is in it now? it looks like good fun in all the video's. and does the front need to come down just a little, or is that just my perception comparing it to the pics in KS's book?

NO the front end is perfect, the rear torsion bars may be a little weaker with age......

Remember that CAL LOOK is not front down in the ground.... it is front down giving car a rake look, the current cal lookers with the front end in the ground are more resto cal height, a little (dare i say it) like those that use narrowed front beams, this wasnt done in the day on street cars but only race cars "Gassers  ;D

As I can see the leaving  are always also great  ;D ;D ;D

That A Boy Russell Go ahead and Say it like you mean it LOL
the current cal lookers with the front end in the ground are more resto cal height, a little (dare i say it) like those that use narrowed front beams, this wasnt done in the day on street cars but only race cars "Gassers  ;D 

" Theres No School Like Old School "

Depends on which era too... in the 80s the cars were a little closer to the ground. My '67 had a headlight height of 16.5" to 17" depending on which police officer was doing the measuring ... and I had the stack of tickets to prove it.

I guess I missed the memo and broke the rules.

Back in 1974 my car was super low in front and decambered about 2" in the rear... I thought it was cool at the time, and so did many others.

~DR.

[/quote] That A Boy Russell Go ahead and Say it like you mean it LOL
the current cal lookers with the front end in the ground are more resto cal height, a little (dare i say it) like those that use narrowed front beams, this wasnt done in the day on street cars but only race cars "Gassers  ;D 

" Theres No School Like Old School "
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OK Ok maybe i was a little harsh but hopefully you get my drift.......  ;D

you are right on point in saying that the front doesn't need to dig a hole. so it is the backend that needs adjusting then. the car looks good anyway.

so i assume it is the 1641 with 42DCNFs that Doug hated so much that is in the car now huh?  ;D  ;)

errr no current cal look motors should be a 2332cc  ;D

sigh... so 'he' has you as well under his spell.  ;)
 ;D

Thumbs up!

I keep hearing this "twitter" crap. Sheesh. The other day I got, "Dude, aren't you on Twitter?" To which I replied, "Nope, never have... and never will, either."[/b]
[/quote]I'm with you ...let's start a "put twitter in the sh*tter" movement.........printed tees/ window stickers.Old farts against technology

I'm with you ...let's start a "put twitter in the sh*tter" movement.........printed tees/ window stickers.Old farts against technology
[/quote]Old farts against technology
  That Must Be Me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   I dont See $50,000 to $100,000 + VW Trailer Queens Technology?  I call that Waste of Good Money The Original VW Cal Look that Started it all Was Clean,Fast,Simple,and Affordable!!   I personally Think If Prices for the Cars and Parts had not Sky Rocketed like it Did and continues to, There would be alot more People involved in VW's You would think that the wheel companys could sell there Repops for alot less since they are mass prodeuced  In 1967 Original BRM's, 5 Spokes,and 8 Spokes sold for $49.95 each, Deano and Hurst Shifters were $39.95, Dont get me Wrong I know The Original's are Worth Way More Then they were in 1967 but how can anyone Justify the Price? NOS Brm's 1967 $49.95 X 4 =$199.80 to NOS BRM's 2009 $14,000.00 for a set Of 4  even Repops cost about $800.00 a set the wheel Market has Repoped  50,000 + times more wheels then there were Originals even made.   just my 2 cents cuz I spent the rest.. 

Agreed to a certain extent.  I agree repops should be cheaper since they are not the real deal but inflation assures things wont always be at 1967 prices.  Besides $800.00 for a set of repop BRM's still gives most a chance to own a timeless wheel for a fraction of the cost of a Original one. ;D 

Shubee, what are you talking about? Most VW enthusiasts could not afford BRMs in the '60s because they were expensive. California's Minimum Wage was $1.35 an hour in 1966; it's $7.25 today.
Also, we should thank the people who spend $50 or $100K in their VWs. Like it or not, it made Nick's parking lot pretty interesting last June.

The cars you stared with were also only ten or 20 years old, and weren't in need of a full body off re$to.

Very true.

Well For all the Good it Dose Almost all Cars that are Built that way end up in Hot Vw's Mag. Then there put up For Sale Sometimes before the Mag. even comes Out or there Put up For Sale on Old Bugs.Com  So Whats The Point? As Far as Nicks Goes there are Ton Of Killer cars there But  in the Early 70's in the Parking lot Across the Street from Nick's is Where The L A County Street Racers use to Meet and All The Bug Clubs Hung out on Sundays nights after there club meetings (DKP,DVB,DRF,DRA,DSK) were all there The VW's Club's Made A nice Showing and The V8 Guys would never want to race a VW the clubs always ended up racing each other  behind Pacific Stereo in Anaheim

I am very confused about your message. Didn't you say you bought and sold 100 VWs yourself over the years?

They were not $50-100k cars though.  Ha Ha ha  ;)

No I have never said that But My 58 Ragtop is my 49th VW I have owned and when its Done it wont be for Sale ..

what's under the decklid of the ex-Mische/DKP Ghia now a days? I didn't get to take a look.

 ::) ::) I believe there is a motor under the decklid...............  ::) ::) ::)  :D :D  :-*

you should follow suit. Maybe your car would start if there was a motor connected to your starter.  :-*

Its a 2332,welded VW heads,42/37 valves,k8,1.4/1 rockers,9.5/1 compression,italian IDAS with tayco linkage,1 5/8 black coated header and dual quiet pack mufflers,

cheers richie,uk

Is this where that set of Scat-Tracs went?

--louis

Awesome car

Thanks for the correction. For a moment I thought a lot of VWs went through your hands.

sounds somewhat familiar.  ;D did sound good and looks like good fun.

if all the sarcasm is removed from that post there is nothing left  8) :D

plse can we go back to the original post

oh and by the way here is my thoughts
I believe you can not compare pricing of cars nor parts nor production costs
for instance
1948 : one beetle in Belgium costs 61.250 Bef which is like 1530 euros which is like 2100-2200 us dollar

so back to the original post
when will it arrive in Scotland Russell ?


Gunter.

Old farts against technology
  That Must Be Me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   I dont See $50,000 to $100,000 + VW Trailer Queens Technology?  I call that Waste of Good Money [u]The Original VW Cal Look that Started it all Was Clean,Fast,Simple,and Affordable!!  [/u]  I personally Think If Prices for the Cars and Parts had not Sky   Rocketed like it Did and continues to, There would be alot more People involved in VW's You would think that the wheel companys  could sell there Repops for alot less since they are mass prodeuced  In 1967 Original BRM's, 5 Spokes,and 8 Spokes sold for $49.95 each, Deano and Hurst Shifters were $39.95, Dont get  me Wrong I know The Original's  are Worth Way More Then they were in 1967 but how can anyone Justify  the Price? NOS Brm's 1967 $49.95 X 4 =$199.80 to NOS BRM's 2009 $14,000.00 for a set Of 4  even Repops cost about $800.00 a set the wheel Market has Repoped  50,000 + times  more wheels then there were Originals even made.   just my 2 cents cuz I spent the rest.. 
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a gallon of gasoline cost 36 cents in 1967 too.

"The Original VW Cal Look that Started it all Was Clean,Fast,Simple,and Affordable!! "
that's cal-look!!!!

SIMPLE AND AFFORDABLE we should think about that.. more fun less rules!!!

my 2 eurocent

dirk zeyen

Like I said earlier, you guys who were lucky enough to be around back then were, in most cases, dealing with a relatively fresh 10-20 year old car, not a 40-50 year old basket case that needs "the works". Then while you're doing "the works" you constantly find yourself in the "while I'm here I might as well do this" mode. Those two things will make the price go up considerably. And for the most part, I also think these cars are just built a little better than they were back in the day. I got a bunch of old HotVW's magazines a few weeks ago, and while paging through them I see a lot of the feature cars state how much money was invested... average was probably only a few thousand dollars... but then you price it against a new car back then and it doesn't seem so bad. Then I think how some of those cars were probably built... bondo over trim holes and cheap paint jobs were probably much more common back then than they are today. I think these days the hobby as a whole has a higher standard of quality (coming from someone who wasn't born until 1981). And because we're here and I'm talking paint... wasn't Doug's car still original paint?! Try finding a useable (magazine quality) original paint car today!! Forget it. If you can build a clean and fast car for $20k today I think you're doing pretty good... just price out a new car.
And then you always have the guys out there that are willing to spend the dough to raise the bar...

;)  :D  I'm into old school, as long as it has new school technology. My hole insight is to move the cal-look movement FORWARD and not leave it stagnent with arbitrary requirements. Sparking creativity IMO is much better than creating a mirrored image of someone elses car which I'm finding seems to be the norm; included with certain clubs. I personaly have always questioned "the norm" but rather spend my life accomplishing something outside the box using my own ideas. Some people have a hard time accepting that but that has always been the way I prefer to live my life.  Just my OPEN opinion!   Carry on... :-*  ;D

Also, if in the beginning the enthusiasts were young people finishing their studies or working for smaller wages the situation is different today. Today's young enthusiasts aren't typically interested in originally slow, cold and strange looking car with air-cooled engine, which you cannot use as daily driver in colder climate if you've invested any serious money to it. They tend to choose different type of hot car. So, today's Cal Look enthusiasts aren't kids that are broke but middle aged guys having steady job/career/etc, so why should their cars look like some minimum wage kid flipping burgers for living built in his back yard?

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Also, if in the beginning the enthusiasts were young people finishing their studies or working for smaller wages the situation is different today. Today's young enthusiasts aren't typically interested in originally slow, cold and strange looking car with air-cooled engine, which you cannot use as daily driver in colder climate if you've invested any serious money to it. They tend to choose different type of hot car. So, today's Cal Look enthusiasts aren't kids that are broke but middle aged guys having steady job/career/etc, so why should their cars look like some minimum wage kid flipping burgers for living built in his back yard?
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I couldnt agree more.

Actaully this mimics the hot rod eras... in the 50's high school & college kids were modifying their daily drivers. In the 80s they were middle aged guys building billet boydsters.

Hopefully we'll have better taste than that.  ;D

Also, if in the beginning the enthusiasts were young people finishing their studies or working for smaller wages the situation is different today. Today's young enthusiasts aren't typically interested in originally slow, cold and strange looking car with air-cooled engine, which you cannot use as daily driver in colder climate if you've invested any serious money to it. They tend to choose different type of hot car. So, today's Cal Look enthusiasts aren't kids that are broke but middle aged guys having steady job/career/etc, so why should their cars look like some minimum wage kid flipping burgers for living built in his back yard?
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I couldnt agree more.
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who you calling middle aged  :D :D :D

I couldnt agree more.
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who you calling middle aged  :D :D :D
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That`ll be us Ron... ;) ;D

Hey, Hey, Hey.  I'm in that age group too Ron. ;)

Zack,

Born in 1981??? That explains things better.  :-)

In talking with Doug,...he gave me the impression that someone had done an inexpensive repaint on the car.

Rick M

Rick,you are correct they had,it was quite nasty looking,but it got a few hours hard work by Russell and became presentable :)

Shame he can't do the same about his appearance. :D

OOOOh harsh ;D I think he carries off the sneakers with ankle socks combo with a certain degree of panache ;)

my motto: make do with what you got.....

ankle socks are in again.... and keith you should throw stones in glass houses !

who you calling middle aged  :D :D :D
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That`ll be us Ron... ;) ;D
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Hey I'm 39 years young  ;D

Yep, 1981. About one generation too late.

I know it has had a repaint since Doug got it back, what I meant was that it still had it's original paint when it was featured in 1977. It does look quite presentable again ;)

It hasn't been repainted since Doug (or Russell) got it back.

Keith is right.  It has not been painted since Doug got it back.  Doug mentioned that his painter thought that someone had thrown an inexpensive paint job on it while it was missing.  Great to see Russell revive it. Was hoping to make the classic and EB3 this year but have to take my daughter Shanna back to Purdue for post graduate studies. She's headed to med school.

Hope to see you guys next year at Classic and possibly EB4.

Rick M

Yes! That's what I mean to say! Doug got it with original paint, it was stolen, painted again, and then Doug got it back.

the whole car has not been repainted as the bonnet DKP badge has never been removed....