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Title: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 08:10:35 am Hmm, where to start. There have been a couple of build threads for the car on other forums but I thought I'd start one here to show the continued progress we'll be making with the car. For those of you that have not heard of or seen the car, we basically took this..
(http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~bfp/jagerbug6.jpg) In this condition (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~bfp/jagerbug9.jpg) Had a plan of building something along the lines of (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~bfp/Jagerbugselecta.jpg) And after a lot of hard work (check out the build pics on www.Jagerbug.com for more details) came up with this (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db03b3127ccec779da82562800000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) The Jägerbug was built over the winter of 07- 08 by a team of club members from Fl4tlanders VW club based in Lincolnshire England, debuting at Big Bang 08 at Santa Pod. Since then we have made a few minor tweeks to suspension set up etc but until now no extra power. The car has performed faultlessly, with over 130 quarter mile passes in just over a year of racing in RWYB events. It's been a barrel load of fun learning to drive the car quicker and tweaking with the set up and our progress so far has seen our quarter mile times fall from mid 17 second passes to a best of 2008 of 15.19 @ 85 mph. The engine was only a 1914 quite literally made up of spare parts and bargain buys that we could scrape together to get us started. The plan was to always build a second more powerful engine to swap over and start to experience some much quicker action on the strip. That time has come. We are nearing completion of the 2276 build. the full spec listed below... Used dual relief crankcase cut for 94mm pistons and barrels,drilled and tapped for full flow oiling. 82mm counterweighted crankshaft Lightened and 8 dowelled 200mm type 1 flywheel with 200mm kennedy clutch Engle FK89 cam Lightweight cam followers Chrome moly cut to length push rods Straight cut cam gears 30mm Schadeck oil pump Full flow oil pump cover 94mm stroker pistons and barrels CB 044 Magnum C&C ported heads - cut for 94mm, ccd for 11-1 compression and hand ported Twin 48ida weber carbs on match ported manifolds OO9 Distributor with pertronix ignitor and 9mm silicone leads. The build has been a slow steady careful exercise rather than the 'build it in week' situation we were in with the first engine. The deadline we have for the second engine is a Dyno session down at Raceshack on Thursday 25th June (yes not long!) then onto EBI 3 to hopefully put in a few quick quarter mile passes. Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 08:16:53 am I'll not copy all of the engine build stuff across from our forum but if anyone is interested more info can be found on this thread..
http://www.volkszone.co.uk/VZi/showthread.php?t=459950 (http://www.volkszone.co.uk/VZi/showthread.php?t=459950) I'll just put a few of the last few updates on then update this thread as reguarly as the others "Then it was into the garage to drop the engine (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db10b3127ccec76b08da374a00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Removing the carbs was fiddlier than we though, god knows how we got them in! (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db10b3127ccec76a5adf172a00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) But we finally removed them along with the exhaust (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db10b3127ccec76b7565f66300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) With the rear wheels off it was interesting what our recent burnouts had left behind under the arches :D (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db10b3127ccec76b51f677d200000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db10b3127ccec76ab85a17de00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Whilst we removed the engine and drained the gearbox oil, Alex was flycutting deeper into the case to allow clearance for the extra long stroke of the pistons that we hadn't originally allowed for (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db10b3127ccec76bee50b68300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) More pics when I get back from tonights club meet :) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 08:17:54 am Some 13 months after fitting it, the original Jägerbug engine has been removed and retired (for now ;) ) Not bad, 130 runs under it's belt!
With a bit of wiggling out it came (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db10b3127ccec76a8a6917f400000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db10b3127ccec76b3560777600000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) No idea why such a camp pose! (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db10b3127ccec76ac67096fb00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Out comes the gearbox next to swap over axles and tubes etc before the new engine is assembled and fitted. The last time the decklid will look like this as there will need to be a fair bit of cutting to fit the IDA's under the lid! (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db10b3127ccec76a0f01574600000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) We're getting there, slowly but surely.... All hands on deck last night. Our deadline is fast approaching! :) Alex had been busy finishing off the new 40mm venturis he'd knocked up from solid billet. They have now gone off along with the carb rebuild kits etc to Mick of Kerbside Autos to be built up, jetted and tested. Congratulations to Mick whilst I'm at it on the birth of the littl'un ;) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c0e88a05d00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71d3c0f808f00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) When I say all hands on deck even pughdog snr got his hands dirty (Mum & Dad are over visiting, timed to coincide with a Wednesday night as Dad wanted to help :D ) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71d5b72c05900000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) The old gearbox was removed (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c0c4421a000000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) leaving a rather grubby empty looking engine bay / underside (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c7db061f400000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 08:19:17 am The old box was stripped of bits need to transfer over, axle tubes first
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71d9b10c05b00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) the splitty nosecone was swapped over (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c119661e400000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Axles next (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71cb157e04500000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) which proved pretty fiddly removing the circlips :rolleyes: :lol: (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c19a1e0e700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) We had a bit of jiggling to do as the hockey stick didn't move freely (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c4a7921be00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Thats what 130 hard launches does to a pair of race axles :eek: hopefully they'll still be good for another 130 ;) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c9e8ca01100000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) nosecone in place and all gears selectable (I know it's not painted but who'll ever see it?) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71cec15a0b100000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Axles going into the new box (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c20ee211c00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Alex was cleaning out the galleries and fitting plugs (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71dce1b01d200000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) whilst opening up for full flow like on the last engine (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71d7e5c80fd00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Both axles in place (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c6ab7216000000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) tubes back on and ready to bolt back into the car (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71dfef3012200000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) needs the clutch arm refitting but other than that pretty much ready to go :) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 08:21:00 am I spent a couple of hours cleaning both case halves and ensuring all the new oil galleries were cleaned in the parts washer, cleaned with carb cleaner then blown through with the air line. It's not possible to over clean at this point! :lol:
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec73110072ff800000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Alex was cutting the heads to raise the compression ratio to the desired 11:1 a lot of calculating and head scratching resulted in a couple of trial cuts and regular checking of the volume of each chamber (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7317aa02f6a00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec731286f2f8c00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7300da2ceb700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Rich, Rob and GT Rich got on with reconnecting everything around the new gearbox. The springplates needed a bit of persuading like last time! (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7316100ee6f00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Our spotlessly clean work surface (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec731aea62f0600000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Rods being cleaned within an inch of their life (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec73029d0ced700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Alex finished the first head and moved onto the second (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec730160d8e8d00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Cut and finished, 11:1 compression and ready for cleaning! (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7317c62ae9b00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) :eek: A few quids worth of carb cleaner was used! (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7317e8a2f4200000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) but the clean parts started to pile up on the clean build bench (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7304773ce4300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) both heads had their barrels lapped for a good clean seal, look at the speed of Alex's wrist action! :lol: (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec730eb39ce5f00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Then the small matter of ensuring the pistons were all exactly the same weight (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec73084e90f1000000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) a small amount of metal was cut from the back of each heavy piston, all are now very equal in weight. Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 08:21:57 am The PC in the Jägergarage comes in handy now for refencing information but occasionally even Alex resorts to the good old fashioned Haynes manual!
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec730209d0f3600000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Several cans of carb cleaner later (sorry Al!) the heads were clean enough to be reassembled, obviously the springs, valves etc were all cleaned thoroughly too :D my ocd came in quite useful last night :tick: (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7314426aec300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) a fiddly job where Paul and Rich seemingly couldn't have enough pairs of hands! (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec730036bce7900000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec731e03cae8b00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7303a3d8eab00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec73107f46f9800000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) This picture may explain where some of the carb cleaner dissappeared to. The wife complimented me on the sweet smell of my breath when I finally crawled into bed around midnight so perhaps I'm onto something there :D As we left the garage last night there were a large number of anally cleaned parts ready for assembly (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec730932fce7500000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Rockers are cleaned and ready to be adjusted once the longblock comes together this morning (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7309f4c4f2000000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Obviously this isn't a for sale thread and I wouldn't dream of advertising any of our latest products that are available to buy from www.jagerbug.com (http://"www.jagerbug.com") but Paul also dropped in the new tax disc holder design. Did I mention that these are available from our online shop and will help fund the continued improvement of the Jägerbug? :) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec730ef0e4f5a00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Lots more updates later today, I'm heading over to the garage this morning and we'll hopefully actually start building something real soon! We've got until next Thursday when the completed car is booked in with Raceshack to dyno the new set up :eek: Team Jägerbug ~ cutting it fine since 2008 :lol: Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 08:23:11 am We'll be running a deep sump so the oil pick up pipe needs to be longer to get oil from lower down in the sump
A standard oil collecter ws modified (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec73148ceae2d00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec73176782fb400000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7312bc26fb800000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Once welded it was cleaned thoroughly like the rest of the engine parts ;) Case studs refitted (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec7311b55ee0700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Crank built back up and rods fitted and tightened (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec730c2eb8e0100000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) The rest of the case studs in and the bearings lubed and fitted (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec73046938e3b00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) The crank in place and the lube a lobe lifters fitted (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d839b3127ccec731f9076f1400000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) We're getting there slowly.... More progress tomorrow :) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 21:41:06 pm Although a huge amount of the Jägerbug parts have been purchased through sponsors (at favourable rates) and using money raised through the sale of merchandise today shows the real story ;)
A £50 top pulley donated to the car by me (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec7325364174200000050O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) It was on my Jeans Beetle engine sat in the garage so it may as well be put to good use! And Alex forked out £70 on oil, oil and fuel braided hoses along with another £70 for powder coating the tinware! :eek: I know we have a reputation for being freeloaders but believe me, Anyway, today saw quite a bit of progress again.... The Shadek 30mm oil pump fits (just) next to the pulley, only thanks to the fact that it's a power pulley mind you :lol: (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec7322bb9969300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) The FK-89 cam was assembled with loctite but the bolts caught on the back of the oil pump so had to be ground down to allow sufficient clearance from the back of the pump (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec7337076f6a500000050O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 22:06:18 pm Although not clearly visable in this pic we had a bit of fun getting the new distributor drive to fit, a combination of the old case being a bit corroded and new parts meant a bit of careful cleaning was needed
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec732a319967700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) The cam lubed up with the special fire up lube provided (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec73233b417a200000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) The longer oil pick up fitted to the other case half and the lifters fitted (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec7332524b64500000040O18QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D1/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Case sealant on to hold it all together (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec733be3e77ba00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: dirk zeyen on June 19, 2009, 22:10:22 pm nice job!!!
here is my " jägermeister racing projekt" ;D ;D ;D dirk zeyen Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 22:12:56 pm Both case halves together, bolted up and torqued
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec7325dd517f400000050O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Super thin gasket fitted to the oil pump, there's a bit of clearance, just! :D (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec733bbb7b69900000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) PK take note, we got our on without cracking it, no welding needed here :incheek: :lol: (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec7336f6e371a00000050O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) The Claude Buggies deep sump fitted (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec73255f896ed00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 22:13:50 pm nice job!!! here is my " jägermeister racing projekt" ;D ;D ;D dirk zeyen ;D Nice! Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 22:18:58 pm All the studs back in place
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec73291de96a900000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) And just at that point the UPS delivery man arrived with our nice shiny new starter motor from SSP. We ordered it yesterday afternoon and it arrived today, how's that for service ;) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec73331fab69100000050O28QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D2/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) In the box was a nice banner VW Heritage and SSP have had made for us to hang in the club gazebo / pits at shows, nice touch Barney ;) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec7326d6f175600000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) I was particuarly impressed with the artwork :D (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec732b026d6d900000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 19, 2009, 22:27:45 pm Unfortunately the only pic I took of any of the tinware :rolleyes: the rest of it is nice and shiny too, will look awesome against the orange CSP rocker covers :D
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec732c7af96f300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) A good lube of the barrels and it was on with the pistons, the white bit you can see is a teflon button (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec7329355962300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) I can't remember the exact combination of shims used but the deck height is just right :) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec73274f7575a00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) And that was how we finished the day, both halves built up and torqued. Next up the push rod tube geometry needs working out and then on with the rockers. It's definately coming together. (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d838b3127ccec732fbd5969700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) I've just come off the phone to Mick @ Kerbside Autos, he says the 48 IDAs are purring like a kitten on his test engine :D Rich is off to collect them tomorrow, then the fun can really begin once we've bolted them babys on! Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: Zach Gomulka on June 20, 2009, 00:51:53 am Trans raise??
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c119661e400000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 20, 2009, 03:50:28 am Trans raise?? (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d825b3127ccec71c119661e400000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) ;) yup Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: Zach Gomulka on June 20, 2009, 03:53:17 am Nice :) Do take detailed photos, please ;)
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: Nico86 on June 21, 2009, 19:26:44 pm Cool car ! 8)
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: Martin Greaves on June 21, 2009, 22:10:41 pm How much are you doing the trans raise by.
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: Zach Gomulka on June 22, 2009, 05:58:41 am The difference in hockey stick location is 2" so that would be my guess...
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: jamiep_jamiep on June 22, 2009, 08:45:28 am Looking good guys!
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: j-f on June 22, 2009, 18:53:48 pm Looks like you have a lot's of fun to work together. Good Spirit!!
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 25, 2009, 08:08:46 am How much are you doing the trans raise by. The trans raise was done when the first engine was built and fitted and was if I remember correctly 2" yes We do have a lot of fun j-f, especially yesterday when we fired up the new engine ;) Pics and videos to follow...... Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: jamiep_jamiep on June 25, 2009, 09:02:13 am Nick, when do you leave the country mate?
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 25, 2009, 09:36:43 am Nick, when do you leave the country mate? I'm off on the 1st August ;) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 25, 2009, 09:42:43 am Ok folks, sorry for the lack of updates, I've been away in France and the guys have been working flat out to get the engine ready
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec7274494491c00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Not many pics of the engine coming together here i'm afraid as I wasn't there to snap away on my camera but if any more turn up I'll add them later ;) The pushrods were cut to length and the rockers fitted (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec726e605699000000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Clutch in (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec7269258e8c700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Engine ready to bolt in minus the carbs etc (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec7271ffb09c600000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 25, 2009, 09:50:37 am The inner wing had to be carefully (grinder!) removed to allow the slightly wider engine to fit
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec727d895c86300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) It's a tight squeeze but everything went in but I believe tightening the manifold bolts was rather tricky! :D (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec72632f8e83700000040O18QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D1/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Tuesday was a late night in the garage until midnight for the guys, the engine was in and (hopefully) just needed a bit of plumbing and fettling. If you didn't know it had a new engine in it looks exactly the same apart from the slightly larger hole in the decklid ;) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec726c119a83700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 25, 2009, 10:10:16 am I came back to the UK and arrived at Jägerbug HQ yesterday afternoon with great anticipation of seeing the engine run for the first time. Before we could strike it up there were a few minor jobs to complete first.
The braided fuel lines were fitted. The accelerator cable had to be re-routed to come out of the fan shroud slighty higher to meet the linkage (it was much more difficult than it sounds! :eek: ) Then the nasty job of getting oil into the pump, I say nasty as it ended up with Alex sucking the oil through the pipe resuling in him having an 'oily tasting dinner' :D With the pump primed, oil pressure light out and everything else in place it was time to turn the key and start it up for the first time.... (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec726e93da80700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) The video is uploading as I type (still 33 minutes of uploading left to do :rolleyes: ) but I'll post it shortly.... Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 25, 2009, 10:57:03 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTQbEkrwJQ0
It threw the fanbelt and despite trying to fit a spacer to the lower pulley the nice shiny black top pulley will have to be replaced with the old one of engine #1 (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec72786fac82300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Next stop the airport to collect the slicks when they arrive from the States courtesey of our fantastic new sponsor, Tony @ Emu Express (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec727d38509de00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d804b3127ccec7271e94c80100000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) I'm off to get the exhaust off my van so we can get the bug booked in for it's MOT then we can put a few miles on the engine (and scare the local boy racers) :lol: Roll on EBI........ Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 25, 2009, 16:54:10 pm *Update*
Alex and I took it for a spin today on the street :eek: Oh my word We bolted up a mondo box off my van and nipped down to the petrol station. Shredded a fan belt so popped back to HQ to fit a smaller one. Pulled like a train from a roundabout before snapping the accelerator cable when (leadfoot) Al floored it coming out of a junction :D There are definately still a few niggles to iron out before EBI but thank god we've still got a week to fettle. Oil now dropped and tappets etc to be checked. It certainly feels different than with the 1914 engine in :lol: Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: peach_ on June 26, 2009, 00:03:52 am Sweet Guys looking Really good!
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 26, 2009, 07:54:21 am The new rear wheels and slicks should be touching down any day now too from the States :)
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: AlexB on June 27, 2009, 23:23:08 pm Quick update:
No longer shredding belts - engine pulling like a train, unfortunately we have a few gearbox issues, seems that we have the gland nut needle bearing is picking up in the input shaft as we have a bit of a lack of synchros on most gears - although if you sit and idle for a while it will go in, pulling the engine tomorrow ( Not a popular choice as its my sons 8th Birthday !) if its the needle bearing then its a simple fix hopefully, failing that its a gearbox swap back to last seasons box for Ebi We leave weds and we will be ready !! ;D Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 27, 2009, 23:47:26 pm Amen to that ;)
I'll be round in the afternoon Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: AlexB on June 28, 2009, 15:01:50 pm Ok - engine pulled and culprit found !!
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d809b3127ccec72db63e37a000000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) new cush lock disc - lasted 3 ish miles !! although its not its fault - its due to this (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d809b3127ccec72c1d70d65f00000050O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) secondhand keenedy stage 2 pressure plate which broke one of its springs - one was lodged in with the clutch plate and the other was floating around near the starter - luckily it hadnt got caught up in our new high torque starter!! So on the phone in the morning to find another clutch pressure and centre plate - hopefully we can get it out in time to fit on tuesday :o Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on June 28, 2009, 17:45:26 pm :o Team Jägerbug ~ cutting it fine since 2009
:D Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on July 09, 2009, 19:03:14 pm Ok, not updated for a while, apologies, we've been very busy!
After grenading the clutch, pressure plate and flywheel dowells just before EBI we were forced to take the Jägerbug with the trusty old 1914 engine to Belgium. The new gearbox stood up to 21 punishing passes and we even managed to better our previous years best times. Partly due to the longer gearing in the new box and the removal of the fanbelt :D The record now stands at 15.02 Hopefully a time we'll shatter when the new engine makes its debut at BugJam! So, to cut a very very long story short.... :) We've received the new 4 puck clutch and Kennedy stage 2 pressure plate from SSP (fantastic next day delivery service, thanks Barney ;) ) The new lightened flywheel has also been supplied by SSP and has been fitted using the scat chromoly dowells, hopefully this lot should stay together this time! We've tightened the nut to as high a torque as we could get it on advice from Mr Webb amongst others over in Belgium (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d928b3127ccec7c6b0fcd27700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) The only problem we did experience in Belgium was a difficulty in 3rd gear selection. To sort this we've renewed the shift rod bush and the coupling. (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d928b3127ccec7c739fcb2e700000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on July 09, 2009, 19:11:05 pm I took it out for a test spin today and the gear shifting was much better and crisper. Hopefully it will stand up to the punishment of the new engine!
When I arrived at Alex's he was deep into cutting and sorting out the new exhaust system. We received a prototype 2" stainless header and stinger from a company in the States but it's needed a bit of work to make fit. Here you can see Al tig welding it back together on the engine stand to ensure everthing lines up better (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d928b3127ccec7c73d3d331400000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) As impressive as the "traffic cone" stinger looked it was decided that it was infact too large and would probably fatigue and snap off unless shortened, a hefty 6 inches were marked up and removed (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d928b3127ccec7c6a9bf139000000050O38QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D3/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Out came the grinder! (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d928b3127ccec7c6d669d2d100000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) After working on it for several hours it's now a good fit that looks huge and impressively shiny hanging in place! (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d928b3127ccec7c644e3532200000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Ladies and Gentlemen, we give you the new Jägerbug exhaust system! :eek: (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d928b3127ccec7c69c94d20900000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on July 13, 2009, 15:02:42 pm Cheers Chris, was good to see you and yours too ;) Hope you managed to get around ok with the sat nav issues et all
Ok, once again ths was the sight in the Jagerbug garage on Friday (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d932b3127ccec7cedee7afb300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Out with the old 1914 engine, 151 quarter mile passes and it's time to let it recover! in with the new, hopefully the clutch and flywheel will stand up to the job (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d932b3127ccec7ceae442e1800000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d932b3127ccec7cec2c9af9300000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Once the engine was bolted into place, Alex got on with bolting the carbs etc back on whilst I 'adjusted' the rear valance to clear the new bigger exhaust (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d932b3127ccec7cf21eecf1100000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Back together pretty quickly and despite a few 'flaming' issues all seems to be running correctly and very very loudly! :D (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d932b3127ccec7cfc8670e4400000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) fingers crossed the slicks arrive in time (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d932b3127ccec7ce8b69ef8f00000040O08QbtWzVmyZg9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: jamiep_jamiep on July 13, 2009, 16:47:27 pm CooL!
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: Black Sheep on July 13, 2009, 20:54:42 pm Looking good lad's , let us know how that new motor gets on this weekend 8)
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: pughdog on July 14, 2009, 07:32:23 am Don't worry, there will be a full report come Monday morning ;)
Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: AlexB on July 27, 2009, 11:20:36 am OK - heres the pics of stripdown after our rattle at Bugjam
Engine out of car and onto stand (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d905b3127ccec7e5b6b09c3700000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Nothing looks amiss in the rocker box (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d905b3127ccec7e5cbbedc9f00000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Head ready to lift off (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d905b3127ccec7e45e3abc8500000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Looks like the tapping we heard was no4 piston just touching the head (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d905b3127ccec7e56af91d2000000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Head - (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d905b3127ccec7e4c569fc0300000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Barrel off - rod bolts look intact (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d905b3127ccec7e57aad1d7c00000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) :escher: Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: AlexB on July 27, 2009, 11:21:13 am OK Piston off, rod removed
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d905b3127ccec7e4d973fc1700000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Plenty of bearing material around no 4 journal ! No 4 big end shell is toast (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d905b3127ccec7e4cfacfcc300000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Rod shows a bit of heat but measures up in tolerance so hopefully is ok (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d905b3127ccec7e4724f3dd600000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) However the bearing shell is in a very sorry state - some of it on the crank, lots of it in the sump !! (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d905b3127ccec7e4c6f4bc0700000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) So it looks like we are shopping for a new crank & a full set of engine bearings at least :( Plan for the time being - strip down engine fully and check it over - make sure no shrapnel has done any further damage remove gearbox from car and strip it down to sort out its selection 'issues' then get the car out and running on its new box with old engine (Again !!) in time for Vw action - at least we will have our new slicks to play with !! =D Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: AlexB on July 27, 2009, 21:31:11 pm Well at last a bit of good news - our slicks and wheels are here !!
Rich collected them from the shippers last friday & i managed to get the slicks fitted this afternoon by shane welton =D (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d906b3127ccec7e2e56a955500000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Nice new shiny Convo Pros (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d906b3127ccec7e29a3c549400000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) Quick pic of them on the car - they need a good clean yet and some better nut washers machining up but you get the picture (http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d906b3127ccec7e3568a740800000040O00AcN2LFu4at2QPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/) HUGE thanks to Tony at Emu Express for sponsoring these - cannot thank him enough for his support - really looking forward to trying them out on the track !! =D Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: Fasterbrit on July 27, 2009, 23:08:17 pm Like the new blingin' wheels and tyres 8) Look the nads boys!
Big shame about the motor getting mildly toasted at Bug Jam... still, not as bad as it could have been had that rod let go properly! Good to catch up with you guys at BJ - diggin' the Jaeger muttonchops 8) matt Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: mr horsepower on July 28, 2009, 17:52:59 pm Hi guys why did that bearing came out of the rod didn t it have any oil did it run dry?
or was there a bearing size failure . good luck with the rebuild. gr Henri Title: Re: The Jägerbug Post by: AlexB on July 28, 2009, 19:52:13 pm Hi guys why did that bearing came out of the rod didn t it have any oil did it run dry? or was there a bearing size failure . good luck with the rebuild. gr Henri Hi Henri - really not sure why it let go, its weird as its not the last in line for lube as no 2 rod end is the last so you would expect problems there, it may be a duff bearing or the crank may already have had an issue with that journal - it was a used donated 82mm crank with a .50 grind already, we just measured it up and it appeared in tolerance so we polished the journals and used it ! I will post new pics once we get the bottom end apart and find out what sort of state the main and other rod bearings are in when I return from Spa ;D |