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Title: engine won't fit
Post by: nicolas on June 23, 2009, 20:35:18 pm
can't really see what is going on, but the engine won't go into the car. seems it gets stuck on the gearbox with either the flywheel or the centerpin. i will check the clutchdisc tomorrow if that is in the middle, but it must be as it wasn't taken off.

just wanted to ask if it is possible to have a type3 (4.12) gearbox (forgot the code) for a 6V beetle? i am not sure if that existed, as the type3 flywheel i run is 12V 200mm one and maybe that doesn't fit. 

sorry to ask this, but i want to get the engine in asap, and can't cope with the guesswork and trial and error, so all help is apperciated. it probally is something stupid, but i have to ask.

i just swapped gearboxes and had different heads fitted. otherwise nothing changed.


Title: Re: engine won't fit
Post by: Lids on June 23, 2009, 21:32:39 pm
put the car in gear and turn rear wheel, might be the teeth just hitting and not sliding past each other.


Title: Re: engine won't fit
Post by: Roman on June 23, 2009, 21:37:02 pm
A couple of weeks ago I helped a friend with an engine installlation where he had the same problem. It was a the tube for the throw out bearing (late model) that was bent.

A type 3 trans fits in a type one with minor changes:
1: The hole for the shift tube on the hockey stick is down on a type3 and up on a type 1. You can just change them, it is easier than drilling a new hole.
2: There is no holes for the rear tranny mounts. You can easily drill them, it is magnesium.


Title: Re: engine won't fit
Post by: Black Sheep on June 23, 2009, 22:33:12 pm
Get a bigger hammer  ;D ::)


Title: Re: engine won't fit
Post by: Dougy Dee on June 23, 2009, 22:49:13 pm
The bolt heads or nuts for the trans mounts sometimes are too long and interfere with the ring gear.

An early pressure plate and late model throwout bearing will also cause problems.

Good luck


Title: Re: engine won't fit
Post by: stealth67vw on June 24, 2009, 00:56:57 am
A couple of weeks ago I helped a friend with an engine installlation where he had the same problem. It was a the tube for the throw out bearing (late model) that was bent.

A type 3 trans fits in a type one with minor changes:
1: The hole for the shift tube on the hockey stick is down on a type3 and up on a type 1. You can just change them, it is easier than drilling a new hole.
2: There is no holes for the rear tranny mounts. You can easily drill them, it is magnesium.
The type 3 trans I put in my car had aluminum plugs pressed into the mount holes. I'm not sure if all of them came like this but I just pounded them out.


Title: Re: engine won't fit
Post by: nicolas on June 24, 2009, 06:45:30 am
A couple of weeks ago I helped a friend with an engine installlation where he had the same problem. It was a the tube for the throw out bearing (late model) that was bent.

A type 3 trans fits in a type one with minor changes:
1: The hole for the shift tube on the hockey stick is down on a type3 and up on a type 1. You can just change them, it is easier than drilling a new hole.
2: There is no holes for the rear tranny mounts. You can easily drill them, it is magnesium.

i suspect the tube as well as i can shake the engine arond a bit, but won't slip over.

the hocky stick is changed, i found that out after fitting the trans the first time...  ::) a lot off ugly words came out off my mouth that day.

just to to make things clear. this is a type1 gearbox in a type3. so the trans has the holes and i have always fitted the nuts from the inside out so interferance would be minimal.

Get a bigger hammer  ;D ::)

thought about it, but i was thinking off NOT cutting off the whole arm because off a broken fingernail for once  ::)

i will check the fitment off the pressureplate and throwout bearing again, but it all looked OK.

will keep you updated, thanks allready.



Title: Re: engine won't fit
Post by: Russell on June 24, 2009, 07:59:51 am
remove the starter and try this as well....  ;D


Title: Re: engine won't fit
Post by: nicolas on June 24, 2009, 08:18:05 am
remove the starter and try this as well....  ;D

it's still in, i will try that as well. thanks



Title: Re: engine won't fit
Post by: Peter on June 24, 2009, 21:21:23 pm
hello nicolas,
when i installed my type 4 the pressure plate touched a hump inside the bellhousing,
i had to grind a bit there; the trans was a 6v 1200 transmission though,
maybe its different for younger models..?
and the type 4 is another beast also...


Title: Re: engine won't fit
Post by: Lee.C on June 25, 2009, 00:30:18 am
Have you fitted new gearbox mounts? If you have then the threads are ALWAYS too long and hit the teeth of the flywheel ::) :) Just a thought.