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Title: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on June 30, 2009, 22:30:13 pm
I have a question about early Riviera wheels (without square sections on spokes)  ;D, what was the original paint/polish scheme they came with ? They were available for Porsche 914 ?
Mine are sandblasted with polished center and outer rim, I'll maybe paint the spokes with matt grey, or gold would be nice too.
Thx ! ;)


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: PIMPPRIDE on July 01, 2009, 00:18:08 am
here is a good shot.. I cant remember where / who it came from

Anthony / ISP WEST

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/571834.jpg)



Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Jordy/DVK on July 01, 2009, 00:40:57 am
I cant remember where / who it came from

 I can... http://www.type-14.com

 I don't think they were painted. I think the spokes kept the rough texture of the casting mold and only the outer rim was polished...

 For the manufacturing process of the first series (alu inside, steel rim) Click Here! (http://www.type-14.com/wheels02.htm)

 (http://www.type-14.com/images/SBRIVMAG02-02.jpg)

 


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Rennsurfer on July 01, 2009, 00:51:54 am
Jordy is correct regarding the wheel finish on the first generation Riveras. I don't know if they ever were available as a factory option for 914 cars. But I know that dealers would offer 'em as optional equipment. Always liked the early versions of those wheels. I'd either sandblast the entire wheel and leave them that way, or polish the outer lip and center section. Then, run black lugs and paint all of the small circles (including the lug holes) flat black. The spokes, I'd do with Wurth silver.

Is it me... or is the sixth person from the left Spock from Star Trek? (see Jordy's pic)

 ;D


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Critter1 on July 01, 2009, 01:08:32 am
I always thought they would look better if the extra "holes" weren't there in between the log holes.


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Rennsurfer on July 01, 2009, 01:19:16 am
I always thought they would look better if the extra "holes" weren't there in between the log holes.

Amen to that, Critter. Too bad they weren't there and just smooth. I've always felt the same way about those wheels.


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Donny B. on July 01, 2009, 04:22:29 am
I never liked them.  Sorry I think they are ugly.  When you can get Fuchs and Gasburners or 2 liter Porsche wheels.  Why would you want those.  I would rather have stock VW wheels with nipple hubcaps.  I will probably get slammed for this, but that is my opinion.


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Rennsurfer on July 01, 2009, 05:26:59 am
I never liked them.  Sorry I think they are ugly.  When you can get Fuchs and Gasburners or 2 liter Porsche wheels.  Why would you want those.  I would rather have stock VW wheels with nipple hubcaps.  I will probably get slammed for this, but that is my opinion.

I don't think anyone's going to lower you, Donny, for your opinion(s). Oh, wait... you meant bash, not "slammed". Sorry 'bout that... couldn't resist.

 ;D

All joking aside, I only prefer the early ones. Especially now because they're just not around like they were 20-40 years back. Seems that most people have the same wheels, these days. But... to each their own. We all have our opinions. Which is a good thing. If all of our cars looked the same, that would be feckless.

Carry on.


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Jason Foster on July 01, 2009, 06:41:37 am
He He you said "feckless"


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Jordy/DVK on July 02, 2009, 10:18:39 am

 I have the early steel/alu ones on my bug. Just because no one else here in Europe runs them... (and because I like them...)


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: nicolas on July 02, 2009, 14:33:03 pm
great, now i miss them even more...  :P

very nice picture off the fastback, ghia and squareback there Anthony. if you don't mind you may send me a copy off that.

they have a paint finish on them that looks similar to the raw colouring. the paint was faded and had them blasted. but to me they look good if the outer rim is polished, the centers as well, but that depends on the car. the spokes were always raw/painted.

here are some pics i found on the net off them.



Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Diederick/DVK on July 02, 2009, 14:47:03 pm
looks like those are cad plated  ;)


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: jhicken on July 02, 2009, 16:51:12 pm
The ones above in the second, close up pic could be hubcaps too. They were also offered as a dealer accessory.

Unlike Donny, I've always liked them. I've even got 'em on my '69 however I fully polished them instead of keeping the cast spoke. To each his own.

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/549246.jpg)

-jeffrey


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 02, 2009, 21:34:14 pm
Thanks guys  ;).


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Bryan67 on July 03, 2009, 04:45:27 am
Fully polished on my old Fastback. I never really cared for them much until I bought this car.
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/271965.jpg)


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Rennsurfer on July 03, 2009, 14:29:23 pm
Jeff & Bryan, cool pics. Cars look great with those wheels.

At this year's Bug-In Cruise Night @ Nick's, Metz parked his '69 by us DEEKS and he was telling me that he hadn't polished his Riveras in a long time. I told him they look great just the way they are. I remember when they were fully polished, but to me... they look better now.
(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/Rennsurfer2/Cruise%20Night/09BIMetzBug.jpg)


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 07, 2009, 18:48:11 pm
I love the center caps on it !


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 07, 2009, 19:08:59 pm
Is it the same car Mark ?


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: nicolas on July 07, 2009, 20:19:03 pm
yes that is the same car.


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 08, 2009, 19:51:10 pm
yes that is the same car.

 ;)


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 10, 2009, 22:32:01 pm
I have them on the car. ;D


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 10, 2009, 22:47:18 pm
Does anyone have a pic of the inner side of the center cap ? I'd like to see how it is mounted on the wheel. ;)


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: jhicken on July 11, 2009, 03:16:35 am
I think the originals had a plastic cap that just snapped in. The spinners or the ISP hex caps like mine mount with a couple of set screws that mount from the inside.

-jeffrey


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: nicolas on July 11, 2009, 07:11:02 am
that fits rather good. the wheels seem to sit at the right place in the fenders. good stance as well. now get rid off the D on the bumper  ;)


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: speedwell on July 11, 2009, 10:15:21 am
looks great nico , better than the brm and slot mag


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: roland on July 11, 2009, 11:02:05 am
Looks cool Nico!


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Rennsurfer on July 13, 2009, 13:45:44 pm
Nico, the car looks really good with the wheels like that. Are the centers painted, media blasted, or raw?


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 13, 2009, 22:00:48 pm
that fits rather good. the wheels seem to sit at the right place in the fenders. good stance as well. now get rid off the D on the bumper  ;)

And of the stickers on the windows too !

looks great nico , better than the brm and slot mag

Looks cool Nico!

Thanks guys ;) 8).

Nico, the car looks really good with the wheels like that. Are the centers painted, media blasted, or raw?

Thanks Mark, the centers are polished like the outer rim, and spokes are blasted. This winter I will make them look cleaner.


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Rennsurfer on July 14, 2009, 00:06:01 am
Thanks Mark, the centers are polished like the outer rim, and spokes are blasted. This winter I will make them look cleaner.

From the pictures, they look great. But I hear ya... I'm pretty picky on how detailed wheels have to be.


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 14, 2009, 17:30:27 pm
Thanks Mark, the centers are polished like the outer rim, and spokes are blasted. This winter I will make them look cleaner.

From the pictures, they look great. But I hear ya... I'm pretty picky on how detailed wheels have to be.

Don't worry I don't want them fully polished. What I want is to have the spokes blasted again to have a "uniform color" of the casting. As you can see there are some little scratches and marks on it. But I will keep this pattern, with center caps and good looking bolts it will be nice.


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Rennsurfer on July 15, 2009, 00:40:17 am
Nico, I'm really liking the wheels with the polished outer lip and sand blasted spokes. Too bad we don't live closer... I'd blast 'em for ya. Free of charge. Well... maybe a bottle of Chimay.

 ;D

Post up some images if/when you ever get those done, please.


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 16, 2009, 14:05:06 pm
Nico, I'm really liking the wheels with the polished outer lip and sand blasted spokes. Too bad we don't live closer... I'd blast 'em for ya. Free of charge. Well... maybe a bottle of Chimay.

That would have been so cool ! 'cause I have everything we need at home.
 ;D


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 16, 2009, 14:05:36 pm
 ;)


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Rennsurfer on July 16, 2009, 23:00:18 pm
Wow... talk about making my wouth mater. I mean, mouth water.

 :o


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 17, 2009, 15:29:02 pm
Wow... talk about making my wouth mater. I mean, mouth water.

 :o


 ;D ;)


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: Nico86 on July 18, 2010, 23:09:14 pm
A question to the "old" ( ;D) guys :

Any infos about the center caps on the Riviera back in the days ? on early thin-lip/fat-lip and late ? What was original or the most common ?

I'm interested by this : http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=990869

 ;)

The caps on Doug Mische's Ghia :


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: bugnut68 on July 19, 2010, 06:12:51 am
The ones above in the second, close up pic could be hubcaps too. They were also offered as a dealer accessory.

Unlike Donny, I've always liked them. I've even got 'em on my '69 however I fully polished them instead of keeping the cast spoke. To each his own.

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/549246.jpg)

-jeffrey

Nice, looks good!  Do they have the same offset as Empi 8 spokes?  I've got dropped spindles and am limited as to what I can run due to offset issues and ball joint clearance on the bottom.


Title: Re: About Rivieras...
Post by: jhicken on July 27, 2010, 15:05:56 pm
If you are talking about the aftermarket Empi style 8 spokes, I believe they have a more shallow offset. Depending on your tire size, you may have rubbing issues wiht dropped spindles unless you narrow your beam. I don't believe the original 2-piece Empi's have as deep of an offset but I'm not sure. Narrow your beam 2" and you'll be fine , even with front disks.

-jeffrey