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 one day i will build a bigger engine for the 61 or another project who know  ::)..... :D :D not a 2332cc  , but more an 1776cc ,1835cc or 2007cc with my 48ida (i've since 99 now)
here's a vw case i've  now for 15 years old , this one was in my daily driver at the beginning  ,it's a 1200cc but the case is an AS41 , can i made a bigger dispalcement with this one ???
thx for your advice here's some picture of this one

rgd
fabs

crankshaft line ;)

camshaft  ;)

Looks like a good start to me, but I don't know if there were any differences from a 1200-1600 AS41 other than the displacement. It's dual pressure relief and it's got the insert for upper engine trans bolt by #3, so those are good signs in my book. Good luck with the build!! :)

Yes these are the same. So with dual relief and bigger channels. Good luck!

you know this is what you want to build fabs:

2017cc (TONY MANCE 78.4 mm x CIMA 90.5 mm)
- REMANUF. VW RODS
- ENGLE 125 (300/.405 @ CAM)
- OEM VW HEADS, 40 x 35.5, BY FUMIO FUKAYA
- 9.0:1 CR ; 91 OCTANE
- 48 IDA WEBERS ; BUGPACK MANIFOLDS
- BOSCH 009 DISTRIBUTOR W/ COMPUFIRE ; BOSCH BLUE COIL
- A-1 1-5/8" HEADER ; MAGNAFLOW MUFFLER BY A-1 MUFFLER
- PORSCHE 912 OIL COOLER

probably with an 010 and dual QPs though  ;)

why not died  , but i want short manifold like the racetrim or dds one

hi fabs,

a 2007cc engine is a great daily driver with a lot of fun.

hot VWs 2/95 and 4/95 they build one 160Hp without fanbelt and with stinger at 6000rpm and 145Hp with fanbelt and duals!!!

why not start with a new case, you never know how long a old case will stay!!!

dirk

Build a 1915. More fun per dollar.  ;)

And with the money you save on a stroker crank and rods, buy a good set of heads.

1915cc, FK8 + 1.4 rockers,DPR crank, HD stock rods,  reworked 043 heads 40*35.5mm, ~9.0 CR; 1.5/8 header etc etc...

my 1914 has a used case, it doesn't see 8000rpm so no real probs, the most its seen is 6k.  Just make sure its checked.

92x74 (1968cc) would be different. Lot's of those built back in the day ;)

another question for the pulley i would li!ke to go with a santana or similar model (i want a late 70's look) , can i go with  a sand sealed or normal pulley ???
and size for a oil pump , i will go with a full flow and hp1 oil filter

thx for your advice

fabs

I´d go for a standard type pulley and a normal 26mm oil pump.

i happen to have a 78 crank, lightened flywheel, berg pulley and crown pressureplate...

so why not make a 78x88 or 78x90.5 together with a w130 and some 40x35 heads?

Sand Seal, unless you enjoy a dirty engine  ;)

ok thx for the advice chris

some old parts i've to put on the engine
 ;)

christ fabs that thing will never work, paper towel and boxes, you must be smoking some good stuff.  YOu really need some cylinder heads!

::) ::)........................................... :D

it's cool linkage gene berg vintage and good luck ;)

You will want to use an Magneto and an Oberg 600 Oil Filter for the correct Period Looks... ;) ;D ;D

Good Luck, hope this Motor will happen one day...!!!

Frank

today i've take my 1600cc in the other garage just to have a look with the 48 & manifold

with that kind of fan shroud , the 48 touch the fanhousing is normal ??? , i will use the 30 hp fan housing , and as it's describe in another tread to modify this one , and also the sheet steels cylinder , will be modify too, where the manifold goes on the heads

may be you can give me some advice for other parts to be modify for the future build ???
thx
fabs

Hi Fabs,

looking good so far. You will NEED to use a magneto on this!!!

Saludos,

Ole

yes thinking about that displacement , what do you think about the NPR /deano 92mm kit , i've just buy an NOS set of those one

Cool buy fabian, saw those on thesamba a few days back....
Good luck with the built.

Kind Regards Edgar

Lookin' good dude,go for it!!(I had these on my 1835 in the 80's)
 ;)

Hi Fabs. it looks like your short manifolds are causing the carbs to touch the fanshroud. if you keep your carbs the way they are facing then i think it will be a real pain to set the mixture screws at the back.  but it looks from the photos that if you reverse the carbs then the float bowl and fuel banjo will get in the way....the 30 hp shroud does give you a lot more room....

You know...I carefully checked the pictures again and it will definitely looks better with a NOS Race Trim linkage to go with your manifolds...

To help you fund this next purchase I am offering to help you by buying your old Berg linkage ;D





Please Please sell it to me sell it to me I want it I want it ;D ;D ;D

Xavier

Good choice ;-)

Hi Fabs I noticed the Box On your Pistons says 40 HP Only??  NPR/Deano did make 92's for a 40 Hp I think the Difference is the Wrist Pin Size or the Placement of the wrist pin hole in the Piston if so they wont fit a 1600 up Rod  Anyone Else know for sure?

gary ,the Pins are 20mm

hy max
 i will go with a 30hp fan shroud , and for reversing  the carbs it's iimpossible with those manifold same as  the dds , the mixture screw are inside with those , and i've watching  several pictures with those manifold , and all are the same

 ;)
fabs

that's cool. i have never really looked at any period manifolds so something new learned there ;)  8)
p.s i vote for 2007cc

no off the shelf parts  ;)
same issue here fabs, had a look this morning and a 30hp shroud gives some nice clearance.

quick ! hide the torkers  :D

hehe :P

those NPR 92's leak down out of the box new. Nice to look @ but I wouldn't run them.

I'd suggest a 94 x 78 fabs, simple to build, fast, nobdy can "see" what size the motor is. use an OEM stale air 40HP fan housing, like Jim Edmiston's.

why ???
thx


not the same as an 30hp ??? there's a dog house isn the 40hp  ??? jim 've a30hp with 40hp dog house ???
(http://www.earlyvw.com/USERIMAGES/DSC01027.JPG)
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they do not seal rings to wall very well. Use Mahle 94mm

Why is that? Can it be corrected with a good hone/cross hatch? Or different rings? I've got a set of NOS Biral NPR 92's that I'm planning to use... someday ;)

to late jim , now i've buy them  :-\ i will use them , the engine will be for a street use ,and " may be" sometime on dragstrip

sorry, bro, but they'd be better for a short lived drag motor, but not for a streeter you need long term power from. The cylinders do not stay round. MAYBE in a real mild, low-state-of-tune (read: low CR, generous overlap, low lift) motor they might live a bit.

Lots of horror stories from old days @ Buggy House about those. Big Frank tried giving me a set for my street car, I said "no thank you"

Is it true for all NPR kits? Or just 92's?
I was thinking of purchasing a set of 90's...
Thank you.
xavier

Jim didnt they also make a thick wall 92 back in the day ? Or was it just low grade casting material from npr cylinders ?

Good work fab...
i like your early berg linkage...mine is just ready to be paint..
and i'm tring to re-make the gene berg sticker.. ;D

ps i like your" performing paper heads" in photo ;D

 ;D ;D

Mounting the IDA`s that way is no problem ! I used early short Berg manifolds and had to work only a little at the fanhousing... Any more questions... Just ask ;-)
Greets , Carsten

The ISS 92's were even worse, as I recall. If you wanted reliable
p&c then, you used 88's, the variety depended on your budget. 89's were reserved for the go fast guys and when 90's came out you went looking for a sponsor.

try the pin in a 1600 rod!!  I also Agree with Jim they are better Left On the Shelf, I would use a Cima or Mahle's and build something fast that will last why build something that know will puke oil  to start with add them to your collection  and use the good stuff you will be glad you did. ;D

don't want something to put on a shelf >:( , i want something to put on my engine without future problems :-\ , no problem i will sell those one in a swap meet may be some one would add a nice set of npr on is shelf

cylinder wall to ring seal is one of the most important facotrs in a good motor, Fabs. Just trying to be helpful, like the blue Honda commercial guy.

new parts for the future engine  ;)

what about  this displacement 2110 cc  ???
90.5 BORE 82 MM STROKE
CHEVY ROD JOURNALS
SCAT CHROMOLY 3/8" BOLTS
FOR THE STREET USE A 120 CAM LIKE BUNCH HAS
FOR A LITTLE MORE POWER USE A 130 CAM
8.5:1
40 X 35.5 VALVE SIZE
STOCK ROCKERS WITH 911S ADJUSTER SCREWS
DUAL VALVE SPRINGS
CRANK BY BUGPACK OR SCAT
TYPE 4 MAINS WITH BMW BEARINGS


THATS ALL FOR NOW

RON

yesterday i checked my  48 ida n ad would like to know what kind of idle jet and other stuff there's into the carb

can some one describe me what parts is/name

sorry for my ignorance   :-\..... ;D

But I made the effort to look at every part, and to note the references of those one

this how my 48 where jetting when i 've buy them 10 years ago

can we change those parts too  ::)

no one can help me to named the parts from the 48 ida
 ???

i suppose that my idles are this
(http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9723.0;attach=44038;image)
but what 're the mains and air correctors on this pictures  ::)

thx for my education
 ;D

50ew - Pump jets

F9 emulsion tubes

175 mains

160 air correctors

50 f8 idles

120 Idle airs

Good exploded diagram here.....

http://www.dellorto.co.uk/editor/uploads/images/ida48.pdf (http://www.dellorto.co.uk/editor/uploads/images/ida48.pdf)

Check your venturis as well, you'll see a number when you look down the throat of the intake - with your spec you should be running 37mm, anything bigger will run like a bugger  ;)

thx for the explains

the carbs were already jetting  like that when I bought them

i will check my venturis

some little  work on the parts  ::)
i've painted my racetrim parts with the wrinkle finish krylon cans and the result is very close to the original finish

 ;)

 ;)

 ;)

now they just need to be polished and i will do also my linkage this way
 ;)

cool parts you have there
nice work too

Looks good !

Looking good Fabs.  ;)

They look good Fab's :) What's it gonna be, 1968cc?

Good job Fab's !  ;)

If I wanted to build a good looking period IDA engine I'l use the IDA you have and a OXY 4" engine.... Nice looking and BIG! ::) ;D

last week i've painted my cylinder tins and the doghouse shroud in wrinkle finish
what do you think  ::)

fabs

ps it's a test for the future engine 

this 's the 1600 with the 36idf  who will go in the 61 ,While waiting for my 1968cc

Lookin' good dude  ;)

Yes that's nice !

Me like it! very much ;)

Nice!

Where do you find the paint?

 here  (http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,13116.0.html) & here (http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,13115.0.html)

Thanks buddy. Looks a bit complicated to get them here.  :-\
I've found this one but I don't know if it's the same result.
At least, it's in Belgium

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Good looking engine Fabs!
I like the wrinkle paint! I painted my enginebay that way.
I used "vht wrinkle plus". It´s about the same result.
@j-f: This paint should also be available in belgium.

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 ;)

cool, did you mask off the race-trim logo etc? or did you wipe off the wet paint? what's the trick? ;)

no tape , i take a small end of cloth(rag) soaked with the 3M thinner and I just pass on surfaces has to create, several times in succession to arrive in results

Top works fabs ...

Lookin Good fabs...!!!!... :o.....I'm lovin it ..!!.... 8)...keep the pics comin....

i've a question , today i worked on the 1600cc and wanted to make the fuel line , but my problem is which fuel inlet pipe to choose i've 2 on each carbs
i want to go with a TEE and not to connect one carbs and going to the others

so what fuel inlet pipes have to  i close ???

i found this picture on the web , is it that the right way to follow ???

thx
fabs

anybody does'nt want to help me  ::)

thx

Doesn't matter. Block either one.

Yes, it doesn't matter. i've closed the upper one, the direction angle from the lower was better to hide the fuel lines in  the car. and please note there are some other ways to close the unneded one :-)

didi

thx  ;)

 but  last week end i was at nicolas's house to do some fine tune on my 1600cc twin 36 idf weber , and with nicolas , we've heard a strange noise in cylinder 2  , and more the time passed and  more the noise grew , with nicolas we were on the air leak way ,thus I decided to remove the engine again , and here's what i 've found after removing the heads a shim was  damaged ,

this week  , i received the other day a real nice berg  dual quiet pack frm back in the day  :o :o...... ;) , and the engine was off , and ebi will be in 1 week now , so it was time to  put back the engine in the 61

today with nicolas (yes again  ;D ;D) , we've put back the engine in the 61 and the exhaust doesn't fit with the normal 4/1 exhaust , as i've bought an merged some month ago , we've decided to put the merged on the engine , like that with can fit the berg exhaust on  , and we've done some fine tune again , and what a moment for me to heard again the fantastic sound of a real dual quiet pack , ,now the exhaust is on the car and it look really cool , now my car really looks like what I wanted  :o :o

Looks sweet Fabs!

Dang... that looks great!  ;)

thx again rick  for being kind enough to sell me the mufflers  ;)

My pleasure... it's been waiting 30 years for the right car  ;D

too much boost?  :D ;D

Hey Fabs.

Your car looks really nice with the Dual QP´s. I´ve seen pics off it since before it was ready for the streets and think you have got it right on.
Only the future will tell where you stop. It´s a good looking car already, but changes all the time. Just like mine ;D

Regards, Patrik

Looks bitchin´! 8)

Very nice fit on those mufflers!!

I like them  ;D

thx guys , when i started in vw and had my first vw , i had an JSC(johnny speed & chrome) dual QP , and since that day i still loving those DQP
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after the JSC i had an bugpack dual  , but i wasn't the same ,
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 and after that ,i had an ugly dynomax exhaust it was around  98 ,
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when i've bought my 61 , first thing i've done was put back the JSC on this one
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and when the 61 was finished , i've put an single thunderbird exhaust
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,but now i've found the perfect exhaust  ;D
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Looks PERFECT.See you next week.
 ;)

any news on the big engine

nothing  :-\ ...

Not really good enough is it...

I think he is getting old and enjoys life in the slow lane  ;D

fred , i'm not sureaabout that , if you ask people who know me , they would said that i'm on the slow lane  ;D ;D ;D , the 1600cc with the 36idf run well and for now it's enought for cruising around my town ,  ;D

He Fabian,

you are rich!! Check this...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1321479

Xavier

ok thx xavier , i will sell mine now   ;D ;D ;D

Shit, I've already sold mines!  ;D