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Title: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on August 14, 2007, 15:03:15 pm
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=491881


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: louisb on August 14, 2007, 15:08:49 pm
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?topic=2292.0

Nice car though.

--louis


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: empicolector on August 14, 2007, 16:02:42 pm
GO GO GO RUSSEL


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: speedwell on August 14, 2007, 20:00:22 pm
it's not a original gasser  ::) russell guard your money for an old  gasser and not for a repro  ;D


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: ESH on August 14, 2007, 20:04:46 pm
It may not be an original but it's got a good spec for someone wanting to jump in a ready done race car!  :)


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: speedwell on August 14, 2007, 20:11:07 pm
It may not be an original but it's got a good spec for someone wanting to jump in a ready done race car!  :)
;D


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: IP359 on August 14, 2007, 22:45:41 pm
it's not a original gasser  ::) russell guard your money for an old  gasser and not for a repro  ;D


 :D :D :D


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: PIP on August 15, 2007, 03:17:11 am
it's not a original gasser  ::) russell guard your money for an old  gasser and not for a repro  ;D

Boy,
You must know your shit.......  What makes you think the car wasn't an old gasser????????
 ::)   Are you the go to guy, When it comes to old gassers????????? Maybe you need a history lesson...
   Before you start running your mouth.... about shit you don't know... Just because you have a web page of pictures of cars you never seen run...  Doesn't mean you know shit about my car....
It was an old gasser "ROOKIE"


 

 


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on August 15, 2007, 04:46:12 am
it's not a original gasser  ::) russell guard your money for an old  gasser and not for a repro  ;D
LOL Fabian its your Turn Now LMAO ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: speedwell on August 15, 2007, 10:50:35 am
hy pip  ;) , you're not content  ??? ;D
I don't criticize your car  :D, it's built in the spirit of the 70' S, but for my part if I had money to buy a gasser that would be one which lived one, a history, 8)
for my part I don't have a gasser to make runs , but well a oldspeed  :o that I hope well to put on the dragstrip to make a time of
18 or 17 sec
   ;D that wouldn't be badly for an 1200c engine with period engine kit  8)
also this's a forum from where the right to express and say the bottom of its thought  ;) and as regards my blog if you don't like my pictures of old gassers whom I don't have never seen to run, hold that you not  to go there  ;)
, and to finish I will not answer to the next attack  ;)
keep cool  pip  :-*
fabian


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: simon uk on August 15, 2007, 12:46:46 pm
it's not a original gasser  ::) russell guard your money for an old  gasser and not for a repro  ;D

Boy,
You must know your shit.......  What makes you think the car wasn't an old gasser????????
 ::)   Are you the go to guy, When it comes to old gassers????????? Maybe you need a history lesson...
   Before you start running your mouth.... about shit you don't know... Just because you have a web page of pictures of cars you never seen run...  Doesn't mean you know shit about my car....
It was an old gasser "ROOKIE"

Hey dude, that car is beautiful, but we dont much go for dishing out abuse on here. If thats your intention, go elsewhere.

You say the car "was an old gasser", do you have any pics of the car before? As you may have noticed, original drag cars are a major interest to the folks on here, if yours is an old unknown, why not post a pic?



 

 



Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Dokke/DFL on August 15, 2007, 16:44:22 pm
It may not be an original but it's got a good spec for someone wanting to jump in a ready done race car!  :)


Agree with you Mat ...


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: roland on August 15, 2007, 18:24:46 pm
it's not a original gasser  ::) russell guard your money for an old  gasser and not for a repro  ;D

Boy,
You must know your shit.......  What makes you think the car wasn't an old gasser????????
 ::)   Are you the go to guy, When it comes to old gassers????????? Maybe you need a history lesson...
   Before you start running your mouth.... about shit you don't know... Just because you have a web page of pictures of cars you never seen run...  Doesn't mean you know shit about my car....
It was an old gasser "ROOKIE"
 


Dude, you speak a lot about shit...


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Russell on August 15, 2007, 21:11:46 pm
Guys

Fabian "Friend" I think you may be wrong this time, sorry......  The car is actually the old "White Lighting" i think. Im sure there is a pic somewhere in my box's, yes the car has been updated but other than safety features and engine and paint the shell is nearly the same.

Pip, I know its your car and i also love the look and it is the rebirth of an old gasser, I like the job youve done way cool.

However, i would like to stress the lounge is a frendly place and Fabian is a great guy (and my freind) he normally knows most things and has lots of useful information, you harsh words were wrong but i understand as a seller you were only protecing your interests.

Please keep cool, we all have different likes and dislikes and there way too many Gassers that we dont know about ! but Im looking.....

Russell


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: jick on August 15, 2007, 21:15:22 pm
he he he......all i know is that car looks fantastic!!

its the best looking car i've seen since Lil' snort.

nice one!


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Russell on August 15, 2007, 21:17:46 pm
Heres a pic of it before the work was done....



Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: PIP on August 15, 2007, 21:49:13 pm
hy pip  ;) , you're not content  ??? ;D
I don't criticize your car  :D, it's built in the spirit of the 70' S, but for my part if I had money to buy a gasser that would be one which lived one, a history, 8)
for my part I don't have a gasser to make runs , but well a oldspeed  :o that I hope well to put on the dragstrip to make a time of
18 or 17 sec
   ;D that wouldn't be badly for an 1200c engine with period engine kit  8)
also this's a forum from where the right to express and say the bottom of its thought  ;) and as regards my blog if you don't like my pictures of old gassers whom I don't have never seen to run, hold that you not  to go there  ;)
, and to finish I will not answer to the next attack  ;)
keep cool  pip  :-*
fabian

Fabian,  I took your post the wrong way.... It's all good my friend 8)

And thanks for all the good comments...  This car was alot of work... ;D


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: empicolector on August 15, 2007, 21:53:54 pm
so happy end  ;D
fake or not this car is awesome



Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: PIP on August 15, 2007, 23:21:06 pm
New photo's

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01302Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01305Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01300Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01301Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01306Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01304Medium.jpg)


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: homelessjake on August 15, 2007, 23:26:44 pm
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z234/jakeeagleand2sons/361794.jpg)
Not a good picture but for now thats all I got. It's the white one


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on August 15, 2007, 23:31:21 pm
New photo's

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01302Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01305Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01300Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01301Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01306Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01304Medium.jpg)
AlRight PIP now were talkin!!  Lets see some Pictures of the 66/67 Nova in the Garage??  heres Mine


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: PIP on August 16, 2007, 00:45:24 am

Here ya go..... ;D

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01071Medium.jpg)


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on August 16, 2007, 03:08:16 am

Here ya go..... ;D

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01071Medium.jpg)
Cool what motor is in it? Mine is a 327 350 H.P. L79 with a munice 4 speed


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: speedwell on August 16, 2007, 04:01:39 am
hy pip  ;) , you're not content  ??? ;D
I don't criticize your car  :D, it's built in the spirit of the 70' S, but for my part if I had money to buy a gasser that would be one which lived one, a history, 8)
for my part I don't have a gasser to make runs , but well a oldspeed  :o that I hope well to put on the dragstrip to make a time of
18 or 17 sec
   ;D that wouldn't be badly for an 1200c engine with period engine kit  8)
also this's a forum from where the right to express and say the bottom of its thought  ;) and as regards my blog if you don't like my pictures of old gassers whom I don't have never seen to run, hold that you not  to go there  ;)
, and to finish I will not answer to the next attack  ;)
keep cool  pip  :-*
fabian

Fabian,  I took your post the wrong way.... It's all good my friend 8)

And thanks for all the good comments...  This car was alot of work... ;D
no problem pip  ;)
fabian


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: speedwell on August 16, 2007, 04:05:37 am
Guys

Fabian "Friend" I think you may be wrong this time, sorry......  The car is actually the old "White Lighting" i think. Im sure there is a pic somewhere in my box's, yes the car has been updated but other than safety features and engine and paint the shell is nearly the same.

Pip, I know its your car and i also love the look and it is the rebirth of an old gasser, I like the job youve done way cool.

However, i would like to stress the lounge is a frendly place and Fabian is a great guy (and my freind) he normally knows most things and has lots of useful information, you harsh words were wrong but i understand as a seller you were only protecing your interests.

Please keep cool, we all have different likes and dislikes and there way too many Gassers that we dont know about ! but Im looking.....

Russell
thanks for the words russell  ;)
rgd
fabian


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: 62 Ragtop on August 16, 2007, 07:17:40 am
The car is awesome!! ...so is the garage...  ;)

Let's all maintain the good atmosphere in the Lounge!  :-*



Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2007, 07:37:07 am
Fabian

see below this is the tailgate with the original pin stripping, have you any more photos...


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2007, 07:40:03 am
You went too far Gary...... there shall be no talk of pictures of 66/67 Nova's on the is forum, yuck !


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: kev d on August 16, 2007, 09:41:30 am
Nice collection Pip!
How about some pics of the split too? ;D


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Frank LUX on August 16, 2007, 10:22:03 am
Who gives a Fxxx about Chevy Nova's... ::) sorry Shubee ;)

Tell us more about that Split in your Garage!!! ;) ;D ;D

Frank


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Shubee2 (DSK) on August 16, 2007, 12:36:01 pm
hy pip  ;) , you're not content  ??? ;D
I don't criticize your car  :D, it's built in the spirit of the 70' S, but for my part if I had money to buy a gasser that would be one which lived one, a history, 8)
for my part I don't have a gasser to make runs , but well a oldspeed  :o that I hope well to put on the dragstrip to make a time of
18 or 17 sec
   ;D that wouldn't be badly for an 1200c engine with period engine kit  8)
also this's a forum from where the right to express and say the bottom of its thought  ;) and as regards my blog if you don't like my pictures of old gassers whom I don't have never seen to run, hold that you not  to go there  ;)
, and to finish I will not answer to the next attack  ;)
keep cool  pip  :-*
fabian

Fabian,  I took your post the wrong way.... It's all good my friend 8)

And thanks for all the good comments...  This car was alot of work... ;D
no problem pip  ;)
fabian
now that I see that Picture with it White I remember that Car looks like OCIR in the Back ground


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: PIP on August 16, 2007, 16:22:31 pm
Who gives a Fxxx about Chevy Nova's... ::) sorry Shubee ;)

Tell us more about that Split in your Garage!!! ;) ;D ;D

Frank

It was KCW split...  I just add some goodies.... ;D 
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC00475Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC00761Medium.jpg)

You guys have any old pictures of this car???  It was one of the mooneye's racecars..... Painted by big daddy roth... My car when I was 19yrs old...
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/scanMedium.jpg)


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: speedwell on August 16, 2007, 18:03:19 pm

[/quote]

It was KCW split...  I just add some goodies.... ;D 
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC00475Medium.jpg)

a little bit higher now  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: louisb on August 16, 2007, 18:16:16 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/scanMedium.jpg)

Oh I really like that car.

--louis


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: PIP on August 16, 2007, 18:58:28 pm
Here's my car I race now...

Olds school looker...  New school car...... ;D

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/Dave_Pipoly_2007_Phoenix_Copyrig-1.jpg)

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC00730Medium-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Noodle on August 16, 2007, 21:08:45 pm
Pip shaking the waters all the way across the pond. Glad its all cleared up cause either way the car is fricken awesome!


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: alfie the monster on August 16, 2007, 22:15:08 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01071Medium.jpg)

I think I've just found my dream garage  8)


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Russell on August 16, 2007, 22:24:34 pm
Gary See what youve started.


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Martin Greaves on August 16, 2007, 22:29:35 pm
Gary See what youve started.

No see what you have started you go and let KS have a go in a car and now he gone out a got him self a bug. ::)


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: PIP on August 16, 2007, 22:36:01 pm

I think I've just found my dream garage  8)
[/quote]

What about the other half  ;)

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC00714Medium.jpg)
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/pip90808/DSC01309Medium.jpg)


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: alfie the monster on August 17, 2007, 16:11:07 pm
Not as nice as the first half. I don't really like bikes (although a Triumph Speed Triple would be nice), and you have a lovely engine room, but I have sausage fingers and wouldn't have a clue what to do in there other than look at the posters on the wall  ;)

I know my limitations  ;D


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: speedwell on September 20, 2007, 22:21:48 pm
here's a photo of the white lightning , there car was in the der california volksmaster club


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Rune on September 20, 2007, 22:30:00 pm
the "bad news" car is allso a really cool car..


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Cornpanzer on September 21, 2007, 17:06:17 pm
I have video of an early 80s Bug-In with Dean Lowrey racing the White Lightning car.  Pretty cool!


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Dominick Luppino on September 21, 2007, 17:15:30 pm
The owner of the White Lightning car was Bruce Lowery, no relation to Dean. It ran very well!


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Cornpanzer on September 21, 2007, 18:09:59 pm
Ahhh, I will have to watch  that video again.  Thanks for clearing that up Dom.


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: speedwell on November 27, 2019, 16:12:01 pm
i've just noticed something , the original white lightning didn't have semaphores and here as show on the picture , flakey jake have semaphores
someone can explain??


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Fastbrit on November 27, 2019, 17:22:56 pm
Maybe simply covered over when it was built as a race car – hard to tell on white paint in an old photo. I covered the semaphores on No Mercy and had them painted body colour, so they didn't show up in some photos, either. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: gokingz on December 31, 2019, 15:59:19 pm
Flakey Jake is a 58. White Lightning is a 59. I am good friends with Jim Jones who did the original build on this car in the early 70's in California before it was sold and called White Lightning. It did not have semaphores. He sold it in 1976, possibly to Bruce Lowery who then continued to race it.


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: speedwell on February 03, 2020, 16:10:26 pm
Flakey Jake is a 58. White Lightning is a 59. I am good friends with Jim Jones who did the original build on this car in the early 70's in California before it was sold and called White Lightning. It did not have semaphores. He sold it in 1976, possibly to Bruce Lowery who then continued to race it.

thanks for the info  gokingz and thanks for those unseen photos


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: gokingz on December 24, 2020, 18:58:03 pm
After reviewing a few of the interior shots on Pip's thread, the original builder Jim Jones confirmed that it was indeed the car he and Dave Wasson built in the early 70's. This is based on the headrest in the pic, Pip confirming it had aluminum floor pans when he got it, as well as the Bug-In plaques that were originally on the car. After Jim sold the car, it changed hands multiple times. Martin Crossley bought it, drove it for about a year before Bruce Lowry got it. Sometime after that it, according to Pip's recollection, it ended up at the DeCoppen Bros shop. Then onto OldSpeed VW with LennModica. Then it came to Pip at The Compound with primer paint. I have some early pics I'll attach. First is one just after they bought it as a green / blue 59. Soon after, it was painted at B&S Autyo Body in Santa Monica, and pinstriped by Steve Feinberg who also did the graphic on the license plate light. It was originally had an 1835 that did 12.8, and was used for street races near LAX. Then a 2276 / Fumio heads/ IDAs was installed that did 11.70s.


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: gokingz on December 24, 2020, 19:00:12 pm
Here's a plaque Jim made with pics from Bug-In 16 at OCIR.


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: gokingz on December 24, 2020, 19:02:18 pm
Pre White Lightning 2276 engine.


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: gokingz on December 24, 2020, 19:05:20 pm
Some OCIR action shots.


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: gokingz on December 24, 2020, 19:08:27 pm
A couple shots when Martin Crossley owned it prior to Bruce Lowry.


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: gokingz on December 24, 2020, 19:11:35 pm
As far as the semaphore question goes, the only logical answer might be that somewhere along the line, someone grafted them in. I am told it may have been sold by Russell Ritchie. Anyone know where the car sits today?


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: richie on December 27, 2020, 20:48:45 pm
As far as the semaphore question goes, the only logical answer might be that somewhere along the line, someone grafted them in. I am told it may have been sold by Russell Ritchie. Anyone know where the car sits today?


Some cool pics of it there 8) thanks for sharing, as far as i know its in Norway now with its most recent owner that bought it from Russell :)


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: Trond Dahl on December 27, 2020, 21:30:55 pm
Flakey Jake is in Norway yes. Owned by my friend Thomas Böker.


Title: Re: Another Car for Rusell's Collection??? Looks like and Old Race Car??
Post by: gokingz on December 28, 2020, 03:35:50 am
Thanks for the info.