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Cal-look/High Performance => Cal-look => Topic started by: IP359 on August 24, 2007, 12:15:24 pm



Title: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: IP359 on August 24, 2007, 12:15:24 pm
Hi Loungers,
I open this new topic about old steering wheels.
I'd like to know which is your favorite model ? or which model have you in your car ?
And for you, which is the best model in cal-look car ?
Mine is an original Empi. And you ?
Thxs


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Jordy/DVK on August 24, 2007, 12:22:11 pm
 The Nardi steering wheel is my favourite (i still have the original vw wheel in my bug)
 
 (http://www.d-style.biz/bug_unlimited/interiorwork/interior009.jpg)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: maX cal-look on August 24, 2007, 12:25:34 pm
Hello,

SpeedWell for me !! Nothing better !
(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/510/702/20070822/dyn001_original_640_480_pjpeg_2510702_ad65b7619c3a9425ba97c4b319ec730d.jpg)

(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/510/702/20070422/dyn006_original_576_432_pjpeg_2510702_c5eb27a377c647b3d408223a340da4e4.jpg)

(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/510/702/20070328/dyn004_original_576_768_pjpeg_2510702_c08df95c071221cb88c9d793a431b34e.jpg)
(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/510/702/20070328/dyn004_original_576_432_pjpeg_2510702_30bf8a25499fba13259d8d21f6494a0b.jpg)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: IP359 on August 24, 2007, 12:26:25 pm
Nardi: Lots of DKP members do this choice too.
Good choice  ;)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Jordy/DVK on August 24, 2007, 12:49:31 pm
Nardi: Lots of DKP members do this choice too.
Good choice  ;)

 really? didn't know that... :)

 btw. changed the pic from one with an alfa horn button into a pic of one mounted in an oval... much better!! 8)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: louisb on August 24, 2007, 13:37:05 pm
Nardi. I have one in my '67. Classic looks and not as common as the Flat-4/EMPI wheels.

--louis


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: wolfswest on August 24, 2007, 14:08:23 pm
I have a black flat 4 banjo steering wheel in mine with a moon and sun horn in the middle...

Dem


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Pekka on August 24, 2007, 15:39:40 pm
Speedwell. I have 2 of those, and an EMPI GT too. I also like my Perohaus woodrim. Basically any deep dish vintage woodrim is cool, I don't like the flat ones like the above Nardi.

No I'm not a woodrim steering wheel addict...  ::)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: javabug on August 24, 2007, 16:18:56 pm
Speedwell has got to be my favorite, but I don't think I'll ever get the chance to own one.

Depending on the car, though, a Motolita or Mountney would work just fine.  And lots more accessbile, as well.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: stealth67vw on August 24, 2007, 16:25:21 pm
Empi GT rosewood. Not as common as the mahogany wheel.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: speedwell on August 24, 2007, 16:35:31 pm
Speedwell has got to be my favorite

i'm your favorite 8) hmmm thanks darling  :-* :-* :-*
 ;D ;D ;D
rgd
fabian


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: speedwell on August 24, 2007, 16:39:41 pm
here's mine,  i would like to own a riverside , but very rare  ,if you know one let me known  ;)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Diederick/DVK on August 24, 2007, 18:43:36 pm
I'm running a Nardi, but I bought a Superior 500 the other day and I'm thinking of changing.
Gotta see how it looks first  ;)

But I don't have a favourite, the wheels NEEDS to go with the rest of the interior... Colour of the dash, the shifter etc.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: bathing ape on August 24, 2007, 19:16:32 pm
empi big button gt deluxe


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: henk on August 24, 2007, 23:10:41 pm
i have a empi and a speedwell and i think the speedwell looks better but the empi feels better to drive and feels stronger than the speedwell


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: John Rayburn on August 24, 2007, 23:33:00 pm
My favorite would have to be the Speedwell with the EMPI horn button.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: javabug on August 25, 2007, 03:41:56 am
here's mine,  i would like to own a riverside , but very rare  ,if you know one let me known  ;)

You mean like this one perhaps???   ;D :o 8)

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/cmhauer/67%20Bug/riverside-dash-3.jpg)



Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: 1957lowlight on August 25, 2007, 07:13:20 am
It's got to be my 15 " Empi wheel.  I got it 10 years ago as a wedding gift from my wife.  I gave her a ring and she gave me an Empi wheel with a not cracked hornbutton.  It's so cool.  I also have a 14" Empi wheel but thats for my Ghia and to me the 15" has more emotional value  ;)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: speedwell on August 25, 2007, 08:13:59 am
here's mine,  i would like to own a riverside , but very rare  ,if you know one let me known  ;)

You mean like this one perhaps???   ;D :o 8)

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h311/cmhauer/67%20Bug/riverside-dash-3.jpg)


oh yes my favourite steering wheels  I WANT ONE  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: IP359 on August 25, 2007, 11:31:32 am
Nardi: Lots of DKP members do this choice too.
Good choice  ;)

 really? didn't know that... :)

 btw. changed the pic from one with an alfa horn button into a pic of one mounted in an oval... much better!! 8)

3 DKP' members have put Nardi steering wheels on their cars:
Darrell Bomgaar (1966 sedan)
Bill Schwimmer (1659 ragtop)
Stephan Stanzaï (1957 ragtop)

I'm looking for a FLAT4 steering boss (with repop horn button) or a complete original Empi steering boss (with original horn button too) for a fair price.
So, Loungers, if you have them for sale, please send me a post.
Thxs


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: black_bullitt on August 25, 2007, 13:37:09 pm
Speedwell with deluxe bus horn push


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: empicolector on August 25, 2007, 14:53:52 pm
my steering wheel is my favorite I ve got the same in NOS and in the box  ;D


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Eddie DVK on August 25, 2007, 15:00:35 pm
isn t this a porsche 912 steeringwheel..?
(http://C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Bureaublad\riverside-dash-3.jpg)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: javabug on August 25, 2007, 16:07:39 pm
Basically the same wheel, yes.  But sold through Empi, the horn button is embossed with the Empi globe.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Mitch Pullen on August 25, 2007, 19:50:06 pm
my old,,old school Grant  12" ;D 


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Mitch Pullen on August 25, 2007, 20:01:53 pm
8-TRACK   FLASH BACK..!!!!!!,,,,,,,,,gray & white  splatter  paint dash & doors,,,,,,Hurst  shifter,,,,,,low back non-padded race seats(ouch.!!!on my 44 year old back).VDO gauges,,...roller gas pedal(skateboard wheel),,,,,SUN SUPER TACH II.......oh yea,,,the 1969  Stars & stripes helmet..


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: j-f on August 26, 2007, 08:07:39 am
I also like the Nardi. Just find one in good shape for my 68.

(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/548/818/20070818/dyn007_original_500_375_jpeg_2548818_a61c33cb729cee78ff5596abdb82f88a.jpg)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Eddie DVK on August 26, 2007, 08:53:57 am
This is the one I use...


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: IP359 on August 26, 2007, 10:24:24 am
Is it a Nardi one ?
It's a special shape, isn't it ?
I never have seen one like this before....


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: j-f on August 26, 2007, 13:33:52 pm
Is it an accessories or does it come from a car? Some Alfa Romeo have wonderful original steering wheel.
Nice one  ;)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: 48IDA66 on August 26, 2007, 14:22:46 pm
I got my GTV at Pomona swap meet back in 1992, and still like the look of it!!... ;)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Eddie DVK on August 26, 2007, 15:14:03 pm
J-F wrote:
Quote
Is it an accessories or does it come from a car? Some Alfa Romeo have wonderful original steering wheel.
Nice one 
It s a standard wheel from 70s alfa romeo giulia super,
you also got them in black.
My mate is into old alfa s and he had one laying around.
Had to dril new holes in the wheel to fit a beetle boss.

It s kinda like a nardi only it s thinner.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: j-f on August 26, 2007, 18:17:28 pm
J-F wrote:
Quote
Is it an accessories or does it come from a car? Some Alfa Romeo have wonderful original steering wheel.
Nice one 
It s a standard wheel from 70s alfa romeo giulia super,
you also got them in black.
My mate is into old alfa s and he had one laying around.
Had to dril new holes in the wheel to fit a beetle boss.

It s kinda like a nardi only it s thinner.

I saw a Giulia in an scrapyard. Still have his steering wheel  ;D
Good idea  ;)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: eh on August 27, 2007, 08:28:41 am
 My wheel is Superior Formula Vee in my 62, it's brand new .

 And black leather Nardi in 66.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: IP359 on August 27, 2007, 09:50:24 am
I got my GTV at Pomona swap meet back in 1992, and still like the look of it!!... ;)

My favorite !!!
Simple, élegant, "racé"
What else ?  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Donny B. on August 27, 2007, 15:19:20 pm
I put in thousands of miles behind this wheel in my '66 before I switched to the Flat-4 Empi copy.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Jordy/DVK on August 27, 2007, 15:26:53 pm
My wheel is Superior Formula Vee in my 62, it's brand new .

 I like that one very much too!!!


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: lawrence on August 28, 2007, 03:56:18 am
I put in thousands of miles behind this wheel in my '66 before I switched to the Flat-4 Empi copy.

I have been wanting one of those lecarra wheels lately. Can you give me some details on the horn button. thanks.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: . on August 28, 2007, 09:43:24 am
I'm pretty tall, so the 14" Rosewood wheel is my favorite.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: empicolector on August 28, 2007, 09:54:17 am
nice dash board richard very nice you've got an empi of new york dash plaque?  :P


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: IP359 on August 28, 2007, 09:58:30 am
I'm pretty tall, so the 14" Rosewood wheel is my favorite.

Hi Richard,
Your GTV runs now ? Rebuilt is finished ?
Have you got more pics for us ?
Thxs


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: gibber! on August 28, 2007, 14:34:48 pm
....eek!?! repost!


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Donny B. on August 28, 2007, 15:15:47 pm
Quote
I have been wanting one of those lecarra wheels lately. Can you give me some details on the horn button. thanks.

The wheel came with a textured black plastic horn button.  I had a friend turn the horn button on a lathe to make the hole bigger then we modified a reproduction Oval horn button and fitted it to the wheel.  It wasn't easy as the plastic was flimsy and kept coming out of the chuck on the lathe.  It looked nice when we got it done.  It is a nice wheel with the leather covering.  Someday I will make a table out of it.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: bathing ape on August 28, 2007, 17:49:53 pm
I'm pretty tall, so the 14" Rosewood wheel is my favorite.

i like that dash,A LOT


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: jick on August 28, 2007, 18:18:25 pm
i know there's quite a few on here, and not really "cal-look" if you're anal about that kinda thing... :D
but they really are the coolest looking 'wheels....

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c260/jick-r/cameraphone044-1.jpg)

....if you can make out what its supposed to be in that shit picture.... :D


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: bullitt on August 28, 2007, 19:10:52 pm
i love shitty grants.
not so much quality there.....mmmm i mean no quality at all... :'(
but they are so cool... they are "THE WHEEL" because in common immagination, in graphics and icons, and every time people design a steering wheel...the shape is grant. wonderful shape, conic (so deep on 10 inches one), easy to keep in your hand...
and then...what kinda wheel did you grab when you were a little child playing on the little jouster cars-toys at luna-park? answer is 
only one: grant.
a friend of mine put an all black spokes one on his mexico beetle some days ago. it s wonderful...so seventies.

i like motolita too: they are all wonderful....but i have a predilection for model with black leather and satin spokes. just like works rally mini coopers.... just wonderful on a bug with padded dash and black vdos!!!!
quality is in this case the top!!! :D


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Eddie DVK on September 03, 2007, 21:58:28 pm
This is how the wheel looks in the car.
Sorry about the bad picture(phone).


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: sheep on September 05, 2007, 01:48:23 am
JIm R please post a picture of Ty Frazures steering wheel, hahah


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: stealth67vw on September 05, 2007, 01:55:49 am
JIm R please post a picture of Ty Frazures steering wheel, hahah

Hey Frank, I've got a horn button and horn ring for you.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Alan Uyeno on September 05, 2007, 05:57:41 am
Got this one from Lanny. 

(http://members.shaw.ca/aircooled/interior.jpg)

(http://members.shaw.ca/aircooled/steer3.jpg)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: FUSENTASTEN on September 05, 2007, 14:41:23 pm
Heres mine....not a favorite...but cool even...
In my T3 Variant. Don`t know what is is...?
Do you..?


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: nicolas on September 05, 2007, 21:42:15 pm
Heres mine....not a favorite...but cool even...
In my T3 Variant. Don`t know what is is...?
Do you..?
it is nice, that's what it is  8)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: speedwell on May 13, 2012, 19:02:23 pm
here's my  new steering wheels , EMPI riverside 500


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Jason Foster on May 13, 2012, 19:54:25 pm
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/YAVE123/wheel.jpg)

This is my favorite, Formuling France and the wheel in my car. Found by my wife on e-bay NOS for 60 bucks in 2006.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Matty c on May 13, 2012, 20:57:37 pm
here's my  new steering wheels , EMPI riverside 500

Cool, you finally found one then fabs.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: xavier on May 13, 2012, 23:15:55 pm
here's my  new steering wheels , EMPI riverside 500

Ooooh YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! 8)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Chris W on May 14, 2012, 05:26:21 am
Alan's is one of my favorites-

Here is my current one, I would like to leather wrap it.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g4bUifM1CnY/TyOAkObEVGI/AAAAAAAAOCs/cJAQxR8JNAM/s512/IMG_1697.jpg)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: deano on May 14, 2012, 05:38:27 am
My Moto-Lita from England. Made to order...


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: pupjoint on May 14, 2012, 07:47:50 am
my fav is 390mm Nardi woodrim. 360mm is a bit small for me. i like it a lot more than the Flat 4 GT


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Rennsurfer on May 14, 2012, 13:44:17 pm
Dean, that orange dash ROCKS! Well done. Of course, I'm slightly biased for obvious reasons.

 ;D


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: CHR!S/DVK on May 14, 2012, 16:56:45 pm
here's my  new steering wheels , EMPI riverside 500

i think that's really cool wheel!
nice to go one page back in this topic and see how desperate you were for one, already 5 years ago!

this must be a dream that has come true for you!  ;)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: speedwell on May 14, 2012, 17:27:16 pm
here's my  new steering wheels , EMPI riverside 500

i think that's really cool wheel!
nice to go one page back in this topic and see how desperate you were for one, already 5 years ago!

this must be a dream that has come true for you!  ;)

yes , sometimes i can be  patient,   ;D


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: vwcab on May 14, 2012, 21:49:52 pm
Dean, that orange dash ROCKS! Well done. Of course, I'm slightly biased for obvious reasons.

 ;D

x 2
Dean is this a 14" ?  ;)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: deano on May 14, 2012, 22:26:55 pm
Dean, that orange dash ROCKS! Well done. Of course, I'm slightly biased for obvious reasons.

 ;D

x 2
Dean is this a 14" ?  ;)

Yes.


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Georg/DFL on May 15, 2012, 16:51:14 pm
I always wanted an Empi GT steering wheel and finally had the opportunity to buy one at Karmann Konnection back in 1996.
Surprise: When it arrived it turned out to be a 14" - perfect for me, because I am rather tall! I don't want another one in my Ghia!

[attachment=1]


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: speedwell on May 15, 2012, 17:30:00 pm
nice one georg this w-e at pat swap meet , there was 2 or 3 14" GT for sale one was at 1000€  :o


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: henk on May 15, 2012, 21:22:04 pm
here's my  new steering wheels , EMPI riverside 500

i think that's really cool wheel!
nice to go one page back in this topic and see how desperate you were for one, already 5 years ago!

this must be a dream that has come true for you!  ;)

yes , sometimes i can be  patient,   ;D

is that the one that was for sale at fred files as well.
nice looking steering wheel.

henk!!!


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: gibber! on May 16, 2012, 00:03:45 am
Here's my '912 woodrim look-a-likey' 914 steering wheel with a home brewed horn push:

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/1967vw/Steeringwheel004.jpg)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Zach Gomulka on May 16, 2012, 03:35:27 am
There is no such thing as a 14" EMPI GT wheel, only 380mm and 400mm.

Sorry, just one of those things that drive me nuts :)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Georg/DFL on May 16, 2012, 13:06:04 pm
You're right, Zach, only 15" and 16" Empi GT steering wheels! :-)))


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: speedwell on May 16, 2012, 13:33:15 pm
here's my  new steering wheels , EMPI riverside 500

i think that's really cool wheel!
nice to go one page back in this topic and see how desperate you were for one, already 5 years ago!

this must be a dream that has come true for you!  ;)

yes , sometimes i can be  patient,   ;D

is that the one that was for sale at fred files as well.
nice looking steering wheel.

henk!!!
yep , but with reduced price ... ;)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: tomi g on May 16, 2012, 22:11:56 pm
now I'm running a medium dish Formula but there are also other options :)[attachment=1]


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Flow on May 16, 2012, 23:19:30 pm
Outch !! Nice collection !  :o


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: slow panel on May 17, 2012, 21:56:30 pm
here's my  new steering wheels , EMPI riverside 500

i think that's really cool wheel!
nice to go one page back in this topic and see how desperate you were for one, already 5 years ago!

this must be a dream that has come true for you!  ;)

yes , sometimes i can be  patient,   ;D

is that the one that was for sale at fred files as well.
nice looking steering wheel.

henk!!!
yep , but with reduced price ... ;)


Funny story about that steering wheel

We bought it at the classics in 2011

Urly in the morning a guy was getting his stuff out of the car. The guy made some gearboxes for living
He had a littele shop and whant to get rite of some stuff that was hanging around and take all of it tho the classic
also the steering wheel .At that point I think around six o clock .. Tim saw the steering wheel. took ith with too hands
Ask the price . The seller said     20 DOLLAR  No joke

You now what Tim said tho the seller

I gave you 15 and i take ith  No joke


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: speedwell on May 18, 2012, 21:42:02 pm
here's my  new steering wheels , EMPI riverside 500

i think that's really cool wheel!
nice to go one page back in this topic and see how desperate you were for one, already 5 years ago!

this must be a dream that has come true for you!  ;)

yes , sometimes i can be  patient,   ;D

is that the one that was for sale at fred files as well.
nice looking steering wheel.

henk!!!
yep , but with reduced price ... ;)


Funny story about that steering wheel

We bought it at the classics in 2011

Urly in the morning a guy was getting his stuff out of the car. The guy made some gearboxes for living
He had a littele shop and whant to get rite of some stuff that was hanging around and take all of it tho the classic
also the steering wheel .At that point I think around six o clock .. Tim saw the steering wheel. took ith with too hands
Ask the price . The seller said     20 DOLLAR  No joke

You now what Tim said tho the seller

I gave you 15 and i take ith  No joke
not funny  >:(.....  ;)


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: . on May 18, 2012, 23:58:31 pm
This will always be the coolest steering wheel !
 :o


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: restojohnny on May 19, 2012, 08:12:22 am
here's my  new steering wheels , EMPI riverside 500

i think that's really cool wheel!
nice to go one page back in this topic and see how desperate you were for one, already 5 years ago!

this must be a dream that has come true for you!  ;)

yes , sometimes i can be  patient,   ;D

is that the one that was for sale at fred files as well.
nice looking steering wheel.

henk!!!
yep , but with reduced price ... ;)


Funny story about that steering wheel

We bought it at the classics in 2011

Urly in the morning a guy was getting his stuff out of the car. The guy made some gearboxes for living
He had a littele shop and whant to get rite of some stuff that was hanging around and take all of it tho the classic
also the steering wheel .At that point I think around six o clock .. Tim saw the steering wheel. took ith with too hands
Ask the price . The seller said     20 DOLLAR  No joke

You now what Tim said tho the seller

I gave you 15 and i take ith  No joke
not funny  >:(.....  ;)

No Tim bought that at pomona the week before the classic for $15.00 GRRRRR  :'(


Title: Re: Which is your favorite steering wheel ?
Post by: Wayne C on May 19, 2012, 18:06:15 pm
Have to agree with the above. Here is my rep flat 4 Banjo golden lady from my Beryl Green 63 looker

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z269/wayne74cole/38f67663.jpg)