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Title: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Jim Ratto on January 27, 2017, 18:21:35 pm
Hello,

Looked around online, and couldn't find anyone that sells CSP front disc pads separately. If you have any leads, please post.

Thank you,

Jim


Title: Re: CSP front brake pads available in US?
Post by: Martin S. on January 27, 2017, 19:14:30 pm
http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.asp?search=C31-698-151-000&Submit=


Title: Never Mind I found them
Post by: Jim Ratto on January 27, 2017, 19:20:07 pm
Didn't look hard enough


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Sarge on January 27, 2017, 20:11:17 pm
  ;D


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Jim Ratto on January 27, 2017, 20:21:01 pm
Thanks Sarge

I sourced a semi-complete CSP kit yesterday, from a friend up north, all new stuff. Just missing one key part.... one pad.  ::)


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Andrew on January 27, 2017, 20:40:20 pm
Just ordered mine, Jim, don't reckon I scored as good as deal as it sounds like you did, I got bit of discount as it was a big order but that was it.

Be interested to hear what you think of them.

Andrew


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: eugene on January 27, 2017, 20:54:11 pm
Since the calipers are from vauxhall, you can also use vauxhall (opel) astra (MK1 MK2)/ kadett/nova/cavalier pads.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sis.html?_nkw=VAUXHALL+BRAKE+PADS+NOVA+ASTRA+CAVALIER+VECTRAetc+80on&_itemId=120510928611&_trksid=p2047675.m4099 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sis.html?_nkw=VAUXHALL+BRAKE+PADS+NOVA+ASTRA+CAVALIER+VECTRAetc+80on&_itemId=120510928611&_trksid=p2047675.m4099)



Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Frank LUX on January 27, 2017, 21:23:27 pm
Since the calipers are from vauxhall, you can also use vauxhall (opel) astra (MK1 MK2)/ kadett/nova/cavalier pads.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sis.html?_nkw=VAUXHALL+BRAKE+PADS+NOVA+ASTRA+CAVALIER+VECTRAetc+80on&_itemId=120510928611&_trksid=p2047675.m4099 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sis.html?_nkw=VAUXHALL+BRAKE+PADS+NOVA+ASTRA+CAVALIER+VECTRAetc+80on&_itemId=120510928611&_trksid=p2047675.m4099)



Yes, what he said, they are genuine Opel parts...


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Jim Ratto on January 27, 2017, 22:24:41 pm
Opels aren't common over here. I ran the equivalent manufacturer's numbers to the GM # and that NK number, just to see if we stocked anything in Ate, no such luck. No big deal, I'll order them from CIP1.

Thanks guys  8)


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: javabug on January 28, 2017, 19:02:02 pm
Luckily Beetles are lightweight, you probably won't wear a set of pads out in ten years. My CB pads have tons of life left after 12+ years.


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: axam48ida on January 29, 2017, 16:54:12 pm
What I found with the CSP kit pads are they do generate a lot of dust!


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Andrew on January 30, 2017, 08:21:22 am
What I found with the CSP kit pads are they do generate a lot of dust!

Probably teaching granny to suck eggs here, apologies if I am, but check you're not running a residual pressure valve from the original drum brake master cylinder.

Andrew


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: axam48ida on February 06, 2017, 15:40:05 pm
I sent you a crossover sheet, did you get it?


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Jim Ratto on February 06, 2017, 17:21:46 pm
I have pads now thanks,


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Andrew on March 03, 2017, 08:22:16 am
Hi Jim,

Which front tyre size do you have on the front and how are the tyres working with the CSP brakes? One of my 145's is worn with the other on the way out, I'm wondering if the CSP brakes might benefit from slightly more rubber. I know changing from 145 isn't necessarily considered the thing to do but a few folk are running 155 and I thought it might be worth thinking about as new tyres are on this year's list.

 thanks,

Andrew


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Jim Ratto on March 03, 2017, 17:24:38 pm
Hi Jim,

Which front tyre size do you have on the front and how are the tyres working with the CSP brakes? One of my 145's is worn with the other on the way out, I'm wondering if the CSP brakes might benefit from slightly more rubber. I know changing from 145 isn't necessarily considered the thing to do but a few folk are running 155 and I thought it might be worth thinking about as new tyres are on this year's list.

 thanks,

Andrew

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Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Zach Gomulka on March 03, 2017, 17:53:16 pm
I could feel the floorpan flex if I really stood on the brakes

Seriously  :o

You need some CSP beam stiffeners.


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Martin S. on March 03, 2017, 18:17:06 pm
No need to panic stop. Find some lonely road with a less than sticky surface and try to lock em up. You shouldn't feel the rear end go sideways.  :o


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Jim Ratto on March 03, 2017, 19:24:32 pm
I could feel the floorpan flex if I really stood on the brakes

Seriously  :o

You need some CSP beam stiffeners.

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Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Andrew on March 04, 2017, 09:26:16 am
Hi Jim,

175/55, must admit that's wider than I was thinking about. Do you need biceps like the hulk to make a slow speed turn?

 thanks

Andrew


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Doktor on March 04, 2017, 18:55:37 pm
With the old drums, I could feel the floorpan flex if I really stood on the brakes before I'd get lockup. T

Really ?

Are you using cheap brazilian floor pans ?

I have stock 1500 discs on my 1970 late bug, with average brake pads and stainless steel lines.
Never had that impression under hard braking.
Ok, besides that, I have CSP beam stiffners and cabrio reinforcement rails under heater channels.

In the future, I plan to install mechanical servo, that was discused over here few years ago. That will bi last step to improve brakes to feel more progressive under hard braking (I had a chance to drive a bug equipped with mech. servo - that feels good).


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Jim Ratto on March 04, 2017, 22:52:19 pm
Hi Jim,

175/55, must admit that's wider than I was thinking about. Do you need biceps like the hulk to make a slow speed turn?

 thanks

Andrew
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Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Jim Ratto on March 04, 2017, 22:52:49 pm
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Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Martin S. on March 06, 2017, 16:34:55 pm
The beam stiffeners are a good factory idea. I believe VW put them on as original equipment when they thought the country where the car was going had rough roads. Check if the beam is on tight. Those four bolts holding it to the frame head do not have a high torque spec, but do need to be snug.
Anything loose in the front suspension will make hard braking scary. :o


Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Jim Ratto on March 06, 2017, 17:32:02 pm
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Title: Re: Never Mind, I found them
Post by: Martin S. on March 07, 2017, 16:28:50 pm
Since we are talking about white knuckle rides, do any of you take people out in your car to scare them? I have the perfect loop I can do from our parking spot at work. Onto the main strip, hang a right onto the freeway to merge, and instead take the exit back toward the work parking lot. I can take off in first, and grab second bringing up the revs and just about hit third before slamming on the brakes as the exit heads back with a drifting right hander. The last guy I took out has had a stroke at work a few years ago and lost his license then. Again last year he hit the floor from his desk and lost his license again, but rode his Ducati home anyway! Last week he fainted at work again. sheesh. The ride in my car scared him though, he was white! :o :o