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Title: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on November 27, 2019, 21:32:45 pm
Hi all!

To get more people to come out and race and to make all shelf warmer parts useful, we have started a challenge in Sweden (Nordic countries) we call "The 1600 Challenge".

The rules are simple and are only related to the engine:

Aircooled VW based engine with 2 valve technique
Displacement 1584 cc (1600)
Piston size 85,5 mm +- 0,5 mm
Stroke 69 mm +- 0,1 mm
Valve size 35,5 mm intake, 32 mm exhaust
Normally aspirated or power adder - it's up to you
Nitro and Methanol prohibited
The car must of course follow safety regulations based on ET and speed

If we will run time slips or at specific events, one class or one NA and one power adder class, is not decided yet. More information will come in January/February 2020.

The hype around this has caught Sweden - imagine running time slips all year and a final shoot out somewhere (BRC/SCC!?) - would be wild!

The main thought isn't to be the quickest rather to get people to race BUT for those of you who are record addicts - the current world record resides in Brazil and is 6,48@168 km/h 1/8 mile.

PPR Micke/Johan Dryselius


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Frallan on November 28, 2019, 21:50:04 pm
NICE!

Try to be a bit more specific, were possible, like on the fuel. C16 or modified gasoline......?
Power adder could be NO2 but what if I add water/methanol 99% methanol with a separate ECU?
Just to not have too many surprises of ingenuity and freedom in interpretation.

:-)


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on November 28, 2019, 21:58:35 pm
Frallan!

Any gasoline that is ruled ok to run in the country where we run. Metanol and Nitro is prohibited in all senses.

Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: bedjo78 on November 29, 2019, 05:58:33 am
1600 N/A with single carb 34 will be awsome. And will be a lot participants

Our country has  a class1641 cc single carb. .. now become most prestigious class with a huge off participants


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Jesse Wens on November 29, 2019, 10:49:17 am
I drive a 1600 fastback and just started playing around with nitrous.
Sounds like it would fit me like a glove.
Living in Belgium the entire program will be to much. Maybe 1 entry.
I was thinking about doing SCC again next year...


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: PPRMicke on November 29, 2019, 19:06:28 pm
NICE!

Try to be a bit more specific, were possible, like on the fuel. C16 or modified gasoline......?
Power adder could be NO2 but what if I add water/methanol 99% methanol with a separate ECU?
Just to not have too many surprises of ingenuity and freedom in interpretation.

:-)


Frallan
Can you buy c16 in europe ????
If you are tough Can drive with compressor then turbo And a little Nos    ;) ;) (If you dare
/// Micke


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Neil Davies on November 29, 2019, 21:09:35 pm
I've said about my old 1584 motor before - stock crank, rods, pistons and barrels, cam, lifters (never split the case!), new but stock valves and springs. Lightened flywheel, 1.25:1 rockers, match ported heads, CB Performance tall manifolds with 36DRLAs, 1 5/8" merged header and stinger.
In a stripped race car (1639lbs with fat driver) with slicks and a close ratio 'box, it ran a best of 15.75 @ 83mph.
Although the car is long gone and the engine spun a big end and is now in several buckets of parts, it shows what can be done for anyone thinking about it!


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on November 29, 2019, 21:19:21 pm
I've said about my old 1584 motor before - stock crank, rods, pistons and barrels, cam, lifters (never split the case!), new but stock valves and springs. Lightened flywheel, 1.25:1 rockers, match ported heads, CB Performance tall manifolds with 36DRLAs, 1 5/8" merged header and stinger.
In a stripped race car (1639lbs with fat driver) with slicks and a close ratio 'box, it ran a best of 15.75 @ 83mph.
Although the car is long gone and the engine spun a big end and is now in several buckets of parts, it shows what can be done for anyone thinking about it!
Very nice - it doesn't take a lot to have fun. The level you want to go is up to the individual - the rush of racing is always the same!


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Neil Davies on November 30, 2019, 06:26:10 am
I've said about my old 1584 motor before - stock crank, rods, pistons and barrels, cam, lifters (never split the case!), new but stock valves and springs. Lightened flywheel, 1.25:1 rockers, match ported heads, CB Performance tall manifolds with 36DRLAs, 1 5/8" merged header and stinger.
In a stripped race car (1639lbs with fat driver) with slicks and a close ratio 'box, it ran a best of 15.75 @ 83mph.
Although the car is long gone and the engine spun a big end and is now in several buckets of parts, it shows what can be done for anyone thinking about it!
Very nice - it doesn't take a lot to have fun. The level you want to go is up to the individual - the rush of racing is always the same!
Exactly. I think it was actually more fun, if a little less exciting, than wondering how long my bigger engines would last...


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Jesse Wens on December 03, 2019, 11:07:08 am
Where can we find the dates?


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on December 03, 2019, 21:33:57 pm
Hi!
No dates are set yet - at the moment we are looking at running time slips i.e. sending the time slips to me and we keep a list. Will make it easier for everyone to run at local events. If we manage to get together in the end of the season would be great, but nothing is decided yet. More information will come in Jan/Feb.
Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Frallan on December 04, 2019, 10:18:54 am


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Frallan
Can you buy c16 in europe ????
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Yes sir! Should I list it here? Anything Sunoco or VP is over the counter, if you wish to pay for it.


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Jesse Wens on December 04, 2019, 14:49:20 pm
Hi!
No dates are set yet - at the moment we are looking at running time slips i.e. sending the time slips to me and we keep a list. Will make it easier for everyone to run at local events. If we manage to get together in the end of the season would be great, but nothing is decided yet. More information will come in Jan/Feb.
Johan
I will run the car for sure next year so you can expect some Belgian timeslips coming your way.


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on December 04, 2019, 21:46:29 pm
Hi!
No dates are set yet - at the moment we are looking at running time slips i.e. sending the time slips to me and we keep a list. Will make it easier for everyone to run at local events. If we manage to get together in the end of the season would be great, but nothing is decided yet. More information will come in Jan/Feb.
Johan
I will run the car for sure next year so you can expect some Belgian timeslips coming your way.

Nice!


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on April 16, 2020, 17:47:11 pm
As of today we have 8 NA and 4 poweradder on the list!
Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Frallan on April 16, 2020, 18:23:55 pm
This is cool!  Like what you guys are doing!


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on May 01, 2020, 23:22:57 pm
Nice!
Time slip?


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Jay69 on May 02, 2020, 13:46:45 pm
Love it :)

This is a great idea for some even playing field grass roots racing.

If done by timing slips this could be open to guys outside of Sweden or even Europe ?

Anyone in the UK interested in getting involved ?

I for one definately have some parts lying about to build a nice 1600  ;D

Thanks

Jay


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: PPRMicke on July 20, 2020, 09:06:44 am
time slip 
TURBO 1600 utmaningen
 /// Micke
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Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: brewsy on July 20, 2020, 19:35:46 pm
time slip 
TURBO 1600 utmaningen
 /// Micke
[attachment=1]

Micke,
Is that 1/8th?
Vanster/Left or Hoger/Right??

Cheers


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: PPRMicke on July 20, 2020, 19:58:46 pm
time slip 
TURBO 1600 utmaningen
 /// Micke
[attachment=1]

Micke,
Is that 1/8th?
Vanster/Left or Hoger/Right??


Cheers
The Swedish  1600 challenge is on 1/8
Left (vänster) is another time slip
Höger = Right    is  johans  time slip ( 1600 utmaningen )(We like to drive against usa cars at the competitions


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: PPRMicke on August 15, 2020, 18:57:54 pm
More timslips
Turbo class
Johan D
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Niklas H
[attachment=2]
/// Micke


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Andrimot on August 27, 2020, 12:03:38 pm
 😲😲😲😲👏👏👏👏


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Tucson vw on August 29, 2020, 04:31:32 am
I have to ask , can the heads be ported ? It looks like Johan Dryselius heads are not . I don't know if Niklas Haglund are ported or not .


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on August 29, 2020, 07:59:04 am
Hi!
Yes the heads can be ported. Niklas heads are ported - I will port mine this coming winter - put my efforts into getting the chassis to work perfect first - then more power!
Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Tucson vw on August 29, 2020, 15:02:22 pm
Thanks , Also do you know if Niklas took any weight out of his  ghia to run those numbers ? How much does your buggie weigh ? Thanks


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on September 03, 2020, 06:13:22 am
I think Niklas Ghia is around 800 kg with him in it. I do not know the exact weight of the buggy but around 600-630 is my estimate.


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Tucson vw on September 03, 2020, 18:02:45 pm
Thanks !


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on September 03, 2020, 18:54:14 pm
Hi all!
We finally got some NA results - see picture apart from the power adder ones we have posted earlier:
(http://)


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: dangerous on September 27, 2020, 22:48:40 pm
Nice work Johan!
With the un-ported heads, can I ask what model head you chose?
I hope at least you added dual springs and a nice valve job!(?)
Thanks, Dave.


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on September 28, 2020, 07:59:02 am
Hi!

043 with Otteva 90 springs/Titanium retainers from JPM and a JPM valve job.


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: leec on September 28, 2020, 09:40:28 am
Fantastic times for the buggy.

I'm guessing you are running stainless valves? Counterweight crank?

Lee


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on September 28, 2020, 09:54:54 am
Hi!
I get a lot of questions what's in the motor so I list below. Nothing fancy, just meticulous in balancing and measuring/checking everything when assembling and making sure enough oil pressure on the runs.

Original case, original crank, original unlightened flywheel , Stage 2 with Daikin disc, SCAT rods, Mahle pistons, original cylinders, original unported heads with valve job, 8,0:1 static compression, original valves 35,5x32 mm, Otteva 90 springs with titanium retainers, manton pushrods, 1,1 rockers exhaust, 1,25 intake, Engle TCS 30 cam, big plenums (3x total engine volume i.e. 2,4 liters per side), single 50mm throttle body, water intercooler, Airwerks S200SX 50/62 mm turbo, E85 and 30-36 PSI of boost. FuelTech FT 500 with 2 valve CO2 boostcontroller set up, sequential ignition with 4xLS 2 coils.

Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: brewsy on September 28, 2020, 10:22:06 am
Original case, original crank, original unlightened flywheel , Stage 2 with Daikin disc, SCAT rods, Mahle pistons, original cylinders, original unported heads with valve job, 8,0:1 static compression, original valves 35,5x32 mm, Otteva 90 springs with titanium retainers, manton pushrods, 1,1 rockers exhaust, 1,25 intake, Engle TCS 30 cam, big plenums (3x total engine volume i.e. 2,4 liters per side), single 50mm throttle body, water intercooler, Airwerks S200SX 50/62 mm turbo, E85 and 30-36 PSI of boost. FuelTech FT 500 with 2 valve CO2 boostcontroller set up, sequential ignition with 4xLS 2 coils.

Johan

Hi Johan,
Do you 'street it' or is this now pretty much a race car only spec? Just wondering what its like 'off cam/boost' and if you still use the car to get to the shops..?

CHeers


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Frallan on September 28, 2020, 10:37:44 am
Hi!
I get a lot of questions what's in the motor so I list below. Nothing fancy, just meticulous in balancing and measuring/checking everything when assembling and making sure enough oil pressure on the runs.

Original case, original crank, original unlightened flywheel , Stage 2 with Daikin disc, SCAT rods, Mahle pistons, original cylinders, original unported heads with valve job, 8,0:1 static compression, original valves 35,5x32 mm, Otteva 90 springs with titanium retainers, manton pushrods, 1,1 rockers exhaust, 1,25 intake, Engle TCS 30 cam, big plenums (3x total engine volume i.e. 2,4 liters per side), single 50mm throttle body, water intercooler, Airwerks S200SX 50/62 mm turbo, E85 and 30-36 PSI of boost. FuelTech FT 500 with 2 valve CO2 boostcontroller set up, sequential ignition with 4xLS 2 coils.

Johan


It is so nice to see and for most us (including me) the simple and basic setup you have.
I know, many questions from all of us, here comes some more.

- Original VW cylinder studs?
- Copper gasket or just straight std?
- The oil and fuel inline filters you have, where did you source them?
- I think it is a CB dry sump pump, any porting done to it?
- Oil tank is your own, if I got it right? Happy with it or you intend to do any modifications to it during the winter?

Then I wish to add a fact for your list, as I happen to know that you did chose the SCAT rods with the larger 3/8" bolts.


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on September 28, 2020, 11:52:14 am
Hi all!

It's so nice with all the positive feedback I get - thanks! The thought behind the 1600 Challenge and my engine is to use what many of us have "laying around in the workshop/garage" and with that making it easy to come out and race at a normal expense. The engine itself is very low cost, as are the thoughts behind its configuration but there are some things that of course do cost and that I wouldn't have made the times I have run without. The FT500, the turbo and most important - the mapping by a professional mapper.

The car is not driven in the streets - only race track but off cam/boost it is almost like any other 1600.

- I use original 10 mm head studs torqued to original specifications
- No copper gaskets - all surfaces machined to be completely straight/flat
- One oil filter between pump and engine case enter and one oil filter between pump and dry sump tank - I use an un modified CB dry sump pump that is tapped so I exit through the oil pump cover. I only use the pressure relief closest to the flywheel with a modified front relief spring and a schim. Important on E85 is that it goes into the oil as we do not run enough high oil temperature, so oil change every 4 -6 passes (the oil can then be re-used after heating up and vaporizing out the E85). The oil pick up in the case is modified and turns backwards in the engine to pick up oil where the G-forces puts it :).
- The fuel filter is mounted close to the engine on the pressure side from the pump which is located in the front just behind the gas tank.
- Dry sump tank is ok, but will install a couple of baffles in it for more foaming prevention. Run 8 liters of oil in total.

Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: leec on September 28, 2020, 13:27:42 pm
Hi!
I get a lot of questions what's in the motor so I list below. Nothing fancy, just meticulous in balancing and measuring/checking everything when assembling and making sure enough oil pressure on the runs.

Original case, original crank, original unlightened flywheel , Stage 2 with Daikin disc, SCAT rods, Mahle pistons, original cylinders, original unported heads with valve job, 8,0:1 static compression, original valves 35,5x32 mm, Otteva 90 springs with titanium retainers, manton pushrods, 1,1 rockers exhaust, 1,25 intake, Engle TCS 30 cam, big plenums (3x total engine volume i.e. 2,4 liters per side), single 50mm throttle body, water intercooler, Airwerks S200SX 50/62 mm turbo, E85 and 30-36 PSI of boost. FuelTech FT 500 with 2 valve CO2 boostcontroller set up, sequential ignition with 4xLS 2 coils.

Johan

Wow, so you are using original VW valves  :o
As I say, great work and I'm now looking at my spare 043 headed twinport motor in a very different way now!


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: PPRMicke on September 28, 2020, 17:27:49 pm
Hi!
I get a lot of questions what's in the motor so I list below. Nothing fancy, just meticulous in balancing and measuring/checking everything when assembling and making sure enough oil pressure on the runs.

Original case, original crank, original unlightened flywheel , Stage 2 with Daikin disc, SCAT rods, Mahle pistons, original cylinders, original unported heads with valve job, 8,0:1 static compression, original valves 35,5x32 mm, Otteva 90 springs with titanium retainers, manton pushrods, 1,1 rockers exhaust, 1,25 intake, Engle TCS 30 cam, big plenums (3x total engine volume i.e. 2,4 liters per side), single 50mm throttle body, water intercooler, Airwerks S200SX 50/62 mm turbo, E85 and 30-36 PSI of boost. FuelTech FT 500 with 2 valve CO2 boostcontroller set up, sequential ignition with 4xLS 2 coils.

Johan

Wow, so you are using original VW valves  :o
As I say, great work and I'm now looking at my spare 043 headed twinport motor in a very different way now!

And 321 whp @2bar  :D
On stock valves

At Kjula raceway
the boost pressure was 2.6 bar ;D
Still the machine is ok Would think the limit is 3.2 bar  ;)
/// Micke


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: dangerous on September 28, 2020, 22:41:32 pm
Thank you for sharing, and taking the time to reply Johan!


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on September 29, 2020, 05:56:02 am
Anytime! :)

Within a couple of days the Challenge for 2020 is over and I will post the results and some thoughts!

Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on October 01, 2020, 11:53:05 am
I’ll write this in English as we have many readers around the world. The Challenge for 2020 is now officially over. As we all know, Covid-19 made this year not come out the way many of us thought and wanted, but still we have managed to run some nice 1/8 mile passes and producing time slips.
So – who are the winners then:
In power adder class – Niklas Haglund who ran a mind blowing 6,0598@186,19 km/h (115,79 mph) with runner up Johan Dryselius with a 6,0624@185,85 km/h (115,57 mph). The distance between the two was 26 thousands of a second and 13,4 cm (5,28 inches) over the finish line! Niklas time is also the quickest 1584cc run of all times!
In NA class – Johannes Person who ran a 8,6279@123,35 km/h (76,71 mph) with runner up Niklas Grahn with a 9,9448@109,56 (68,13 mph).

Congrats to both winners – I will personally deliver a bottle of ‘bubbly’ to them the next time we meet! Well done!

I also want to acknowledge the amazing time run by Fabio Peciulis and the CrushKiller team in Brazil who ran a 6,38@173 km/h (107,59 mph) in a power added, full bodied, full weight Type 1!

I know there are many more builds ongoing, so hopefully next year there will be many more time slips produced. The time for the Swedish 2021 Challenge will be April 1st to 30th of September.

As the interest for this is growing around the world with the CrushKiller team in Brazil, Jay Turncock’s initiative in UK and with good cheering from Mario Velotta Jr. (the Dub Shop) in US – I plan to (exact details to be worked out) create a World 1600 Challenge list so we can gather time slips from all over the world into one place. The time slips can of course be produced at any time of the year. My thought is to have 4 classes: Power Adder Race, Power Adder Street, NA Race and NA Street where the ‘Race’ would be a car basically built for racing and ‘Street’ more of a ‘standard’ car. No exact definitions – keep it simple and up to the owner to ‘classify’ the car – remember it’s for the fun of it and to get more people out to race. I’ll be back on this – until then – keep on racing and building and remember – ‘The pedal to the metal and never look back’!
Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Tucson vw on October 08, 2020, 00:25:07 am
So Johan , what gear ratios do you have in your buggie ? Also any idea what gear ratios Niklas has in his Ghia . Your cars are inspiring me to build one myself .


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on October 10, 2020, 09:20:42 am
So Johan , what gear ratios do you have in your buggie ? Also any idea what gear ratios Niklas has in his Ghia . Your cars are inspiring me to build one myself .
Hi!
Great that we are an inspiration to you!
I run a Finnish Dogring gearset from Kuplapaya:
3.40, 2.00, 1,53, 1,15 with 3.88 R&P. I think Niklas run the same gear ratio.
Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Tucson vw on October 10, 2020, 17:02:25 pm
Thanks Johan , I always get inspired when I see people think outside the box . I think making a lot of power out of small cc engine is more rewarding than the usual big cc cookie cutter engines that everyone builds .


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on October 10, 2020, 19:24:04 pm
Hi!

The small ones do have a benefit over bigger ones as they are more stable not having the long stroke, not so long pushrods, thick cylinder walls and a lot of material 'inside' the head studs and it amazes me the type of power one can get out of basically original parts!

Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on October 19, 2020, 20:23:55 pm
Even if the official challenge is over for 2020 - Johannes Persson ran a great 8,50@128,82 km/h at the No Prep event in Malmö this past weekend!

Congrats Johannes to a great achievement!

I'm finishing up the work with a World 1600 Challenge List - more information to come - stay tuned.

Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on November 01, 2020, 12:36:40 pm
World 1600cc Challenge Forum is now live: https://1600challenge.com/index.php

I have created a forum for all of us interested in the 1600cc Challenge around the Globe. A big thanks to Trond Dahl for the set-up of ’Top Racers List’!
The forum contains Top Racers List in 4 different classes with the 30 fastest every year and a ‘All Time’ list, Projects, Tech Talk and Classifieds.
Register first to be able to view all content. Read the forum rules and the rules for the different classes under ‘General Information’. Spread the word to all who is interested.
 Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: richie on November 01, 2020, 17:41:36 pm
World 1600cc Challenge Forum is now live: https://1600challenge.com/index.php

I have created a forum for all of us interested in the 1600cc Challenge around the Globe. A big thanks to Trond Dahl for the set-up of ’Top Racers List’!
The forum contains Top Racers List in 4 different classes with the 30 fastest every year and a ‘All Time’ list, Projects, Tech Talk and Classifieds.
Register first to be able to view all content. Read the forum rules and the rules for the different classes under ‘General Information’. Spread the word to all who is interested.
 Johan


Thanks for your efforts to get this started 8)  I registered to watch what happens and maybe do something of a budget build for fun if i find enough parts in the junk pile ;) ;D


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on November 01, 2020, 17:53:35 pm
Richie!

Thanks - yes do! I bet you have a lot laying around and that's one of the cool things about all of this!

Johan


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: Frallan on November 02, 2020, 08:40:14 am
I am another "Junk Man".......
I know I have some 1584 cc parts, a large screwblower meant for a VR6 but what the heck, it might fit a 1584 too?
Some EFI´s...... injectors, intercoolers....
Hmmm, I have a 1967 street car with cage too, just waiting to be revived......
Time will tell if this goes from theory and dream in to 2021 participation.

Fun dreams in any case!
I love what you Micke, Johan and now Trond has done to make it happen. THANKS!


Title: Re: The Swedish 1600 Challenge
Post by: johandryselius on November 03, 2020, 22:30:49 pm
Frallan!
Many of the parts in my engine would be considered 'junk' too as most of it is from an old, oily, dirty engine that was standing for years in the back of my garage (actually two of them so I have some spare junk) - then cleaned up, some machining and changing of stuff and voila - a small cheap powerhouse that I could never dream of would take me down the ¼ mile in mid 9's!
Go for it - they tolerate a lot of abuse!
Johan