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well guys I thought it was about time I moved this thread over here in to "in da werks"  :)

Now I LOVE the looks and performance of my little 1641 old skool motor, its an AWSOME little motor, its starts first time every time, Sounds AWSOME (read as stupidly noisey ;D) and goes pretty well for a single carbed motor - she'll do a 100mph FULLY LOADED!

here are the specs at the moment:

AS21 case - full flow oiling
69mm counterweighted crank with lightened and balanced rods
87mm barrells and pistons
Engle 100 cam
Stock dual port heads 040's with stock valves (slightly ported to remove all the sharp corners)
32mm oil pump (race trim)
deep sump (race trim)
Boosh 009 dizzy with electronic ignition kit (30degs)
8mm silicon leads 
Power pulley (smaller 356 diameter)
Lightened and balanced and 8 dowelled 200mm flywheel
"Bolt up" rocker sharfts with swivel feet adjusters
Cromoloy pushrods
Straight cut timing gears
DDS center mount "RAM" type manifold with a single Weber40dcn14 Carb (with 24mm venturi's) the two end piece's of the manifold although stock have been heavily ported,

and all this little lot revs to about 5500rpm with the bulk of its power from 2700 - 5300 :)

But as I have been talking about in other threads this little motor is VERY noisey and not very good on MPG (as low as 15 mpg :o)

So the first thing I am planning on is a full merged header and a single quiet pack - like my friend robs  :) Now the second is a little more complicated - Dual carbs  ;D

I am planning on fitting a pair of weber 40dcn's (the same as the single I use at the moment) on a pair of old skool Race trim manifolds  along with an Original DDS linkage BUT there is a slight problem you see the body work on the back my manx won't allow me to use "standard length" manifolds so I am SHORTENING them  :o

So far I have had the machine shop make some new top plates for the new SHORT manifolds - I should have the manifolds next week and I will post some pic's as soon as I get them home.

I am planning on using 28 vents / 135 to 140 main / 200 air / f24 emulsion tube and 55 idles,

I am also moving the timing up to 32 degs and fitting 1.25' Rockers

So guys what are your thought  ??? :)

fun engine indeed! ;) New plan sounds great, love the custom manifolds...

I forgot I let you drive it - fun ain't she  ;) :) oh yeah I sorted out the play in the throttle pedal now  ;)

I'm not going to work out just how much these manifolds will end up costing me but hey its only money  :-\ and they will be soooooo cool when they are done  ;D

Fun project,show us the pic's when the monifolds are ready. ;)

nice, I will follow this topic!  Let the pictures and stories coming!

are type 3 manifolds from berg an option here ?? they are a lot lower..

Hope to see and hear again your Manx with the new improvements  Lee.  :D

I still remember the noise it did when you play in the quarry in Norway  ;D  ;)

It's just ridiculously fun  :D

But, why not raise the compression ratio? If it is still at original specs, it should be good to raise it, no?  And why not put a set of 1.25 rockers?
As the rest of the engine is well built, why not try to exploit it?

If you want some advice for the MPG, I can help you  ;D ;D ( Do you remember the gas I use during SCC trip? I have translate to UK MPG and it's about 43miles per gallon  ;D 6.5l/100  )

Na they are not an option as they are NOT Race Trim ;)  :)

And thanks for the comments JF I had forgoten about the quarry - now that was fun  ;D I will let you have a drive next time  ;) :)

As for the engine I am already planning on 1.25's (Richie has a set for me  ;)) And I hope he is going to help me set them up so I will ask him about compression - I can get the heads fly cut at a local macine shop if needed  :)

I can't believe you were getting 43 mpg  :o I worked mine out "roughly" and it was somewhere between 15-20mpg  :(

Can't wait and thanks guy ;D


Stock engine and long ratio gearbox.  ;)

good you have the parts then. the raising off the CR is an option, but you allready run an external cooler don't you? then go easy on it as it can heat up too much.

the manifolds could come out nice. that will be great to see as well.

hope to see a before and after difference.
btw what 1/4 times do you have now with this setup?  ;D

Hey dude - yep I almost have all the parts, my dds linkage turned up yesterday - I still have to get the venturi's and a few other little bits but I am nearly there  :)

As for the c/r - its just an idea - also I could quite easily run without the cooler so heat shouldn't be a big problem - The manifolds should be done in a week or so.

As for 1/4 mile times - I would be happy with low 15's (maybe a 14.99 ;))

I don't think that raise CR in a reasonable way will make the engine run hotter, if it's correctly tune.
The 1500s run a little more CR than the other VW engine without problems and have 5 more HP  ;) (That's about 10% more hp  :o)

When I buy parts to built my 1600cc, the guy said me that if I don't raise the CR at 8 to 8.5 and with a deck height at 1 to 1.5mm with an W110, I will not have a correct combustion. It will run and well but I will not have all the benefits of what the engine can do.  ;)
He explain me why, but I don't understand  ::)  :D
  ;)

He was right!
Lee, when you open it up, set your deck height to .040" and your compression to 8:1.

Looks like the heads are comin off then  ::) ;) :)

Looking at your venturi size, your main jet predictions are too rich. You don't need such a big main with those 28mm.
Try 115-120.

 ;)

Here is the sugested base settings from Nicolas:

"i looked up what size jets you could use as a starting point for dual carb setup on a 1641

28 vents / 135 to 140 main / 200 air / f24 emulsion tube (on a DCNF42 there is a f25) / 55 idle (usually on a IDF a 50 works well) / squirters are 50"

So you think I should go for 115/120's instead of the 135/140's - correct ???

yeah, I'll tell you why.
I was told a long time ago that small motors running Webers "sometimes" needed big jets, in order to have carburetors "feel" what the little engine wants. It made sense... big 44, 45, 48mm carbs on a 1800cc or smaller motor isn't going to make the air speed and "pull" through circuits like on a big 2300cc motor, or like smaller carbs on big or small motor. Your 1641 with 28mm venturis should still have good air speed, so no reason really, to hang big main jets in there. The smaller jets will come in nicely at a lower rpm just fine. I actually thought a friend's 1776 was going to need big fat mains too, this was back in 1994 or 1995... it was a low CR 1776, stock cam, stock valve diameter, light port work, 1.25 ratio rockers, dual 40IDF with 28mm vents. I thought what I had heard about jetting a smaller motor applied universally across the board and screwed in 130 or 135 mains and told the guy "should run great"... which it didn't, it had poor power and was very soft. My friend said it had no pulling power in the mid or high rpm, like getting on the freeway. I couldn't figure out why, except that we put a stock cam in it. For some reason, my friend tried different main jets and went down to 120's I think and it came to life and made nice power, good mpg, good repsonse.
135-140 are better suited to a 34-36mm vent.
But of course, it is best to tune it and test it under real conditions.

Hmmm interesting - that does go along with ther other "rule" I have heard which is that the mains should be roughly 4 times the vent size ie 28x4=112 so 115's sound perfect :-\ :)

I guess.... yeah. But those calculations are just so books can be published about "how to do it"
too many variables.

Yeah I know dude I was only given it as a very rough guide - I am gonna get some 115/120/130/135/140's then I can play around all I want.

What "Air corrections" would you put with the 115/120's ???

Just got of interest huys here what was in the "Single"  :)

50 idles - 160 Air correcton - 140 mains and F38 emulsion tubes - Any thoughts ???

what chokes were in your single carb?

a couple of 24's that I polished up ;) :)

i would go 200 on the air or maybe 180 but not lower.

I already post a pic of these but they are just soooooooo cool I had to put them in here too ;)

I already had one of these COOL Race Trim Air boxes for "off roading" and I paid SILLY money for it a while back (black one) And then late last night before I went to bed I thought "I'll have a quick look on ebay" then about an hour later I found THIS! (grey one) a second race trim air box! it wasn't listed very well so at about 5pm today I won it for a grand total $38.00 ;D

Now I have a pair for my new dual carb set up - HOW COOL!?

how cool!
congrats on the cheap steal ;)

cool!

will you have to modify then to fit the dcn's?

yep its gonna take a few mods but you know me I can make ANYTHING fit  ;) :)

ooh er  :D

any updates on the manifolds?

With a good hammer, everything fit  ;D

Nice buy Lee.

I'm gonna need a BIG hammer  :D I need to make the base of these boxes (top) the same as the one below - I already have it all worked out though  ;) :)

here's my new dds linkage - its slightly different to normal as it designed to be used further back on the case  without a fanhousing on a drag motor - The arms are WAY to long for normal use so yet again more "modifying"  ::) ;) :)

buy the bugpack version and swap the swivel, but keep the DDS foot

Na I don't like that Bugpack top piece - I like this one its dirrerent (a bit like me  ;))

Hey Guys - here are a few cell phone pic's of the new manifolds etc - nothing is welded yet and there is still alot of work to do including relocating the oil cooler (to the opposite side) and moving the breather (to the center of the fanhousing) There is a million other little details to work out like the breather pipes on the rocker covers but but its gonna be AWSOME, I just LOVE how SHORT the manifolds are  ;) :)

A couple more pic's  :)

Did a little work on the airboxes today :)

very cool dude! ;)

do you know what the short manifolds will do to your power band?

i reckon lee's buggy has enough torque to cover up for the upwards shift.

I forgot to add I have a PAIR of these cool filters coming from Dave Rosique (thanks dude) as well as sometng else I am keeping secret (shhhhh Dave ;))

As for the "powerband" I have NO IDEA :-\ with the single it had LOADS of torque and the power band was mainly between 2800rpm and 5300rpm - Any thoughts people ???

The manifolds are the same length as stock type3 manifolds so hopefully I won't have any "Problems"  :-\ :)

I am also bumping up the compression to 8.5:1 ;D

what type3 manifolds have is a thick black (rubberish) termal gasket between the carbs and maifolds. if you can have something like that i see no problems with short manifolds.

and with those filters are you converting the manx to a unimog?  ;D another 1/10 for me there in the weight alone, let us not speak in the loss off performance  ::) :P

What's wrong with a Unimog?  ;D

Dude... this carb setup looks the badger's nadgers! 8)

You can buy spacers just like that for the DCN's on ebay so I might get a pair, Thanks dude - even if you did call her a "Unimog" >:( :)

oh yeah don't worry the filters will comin of for our little race  ;) (i might even have another little secret up my sleve :o)

And thanks for the compliments Matt 8)

I bought a pair of those phenolic spacers off ebay from some Unimog outfit. Got one of them under the Zenith :)

I have seen these spacers on old ferrari's etc I'll get myself a pair just to be on the safe side  :)

unimogs are great!

my friend has one and i can't wait the day he takes me offroading in that thing.
just make sure you wear the extra long fishermans pants.  ;D

what tricks? you got me curious there. adjusting the trottle cable so it can open fully?   :P
and on a more seriuous not, i like that filter, but only on a buggy, maybe the DAS offraod bus, but no beetle.

and if you find those spacers for DCNF's as well, let me know as i think the bowls evaporate on mine after i turn off the engine, leaving a big smell off fuel inside the car.

see if you can find ceramic ones, these conduct heat the least.  I use these on my IDA's.

Yeah unimogs are pretty cool, don't you remember there is one parked next door to me,And ys I know what you mean about the filters - they are a bit OTT (over the top!) but they look sooooooooooooo cooooooooooool ;D

I think you'll like my other little tricks (tires..... cough cough ;)) trust me guys the manx is gonna look superb next season, A couple more trophies I think ;) :)

I'll also have a lok for those spacers for you dude  :)

Where did you find those or are they handmade out of a big ceramic plate or so...?

Don't think you'll get them to fit under the lid :/ At least it wouldn't in my car.
And don't take the air cleaners off either, unless you want a serious fuel smell inside the car when you stomp on the throttle!

My enigne bulder (Jim@Stateside Tuning) got them for me.

good thing you dont teach English Lids..... ;)

typo

Right guys a little update for ya - the heads have come off and I have measured the deck height and its .060/1.5mm - I have not measured the head cc yet but I suspect the CR will come out some where around 6.5/7.0:1.

I am planning on bumping up the CR to 9.5:1 and fitting 1.25 ratio rockers as well as the carb conversion of course,

So any hints and tips guys  ??? :)

Now your Buggy will not only looks cool, but will also go faster  ;D ;D

that still has to be seen, don't jump to conclusions yet

oh, hey Lee..  ;D

ha ha ha  ;) Well I worked out I need 40cc chambers to get a CR of 9.3:1 - Any thoughts? :)

just read this for the first time, slick work monkiboy! cant wait to see pics of when the intakes are finished.

Si.

drill heads 1mm and that could be enough to get 8.5 or 9

Cheers dude :) Like I said before I could have done this ALOT easyier AND quicker but it would NEVER look as cool ;)


Thanks Nicolas - I was going to measure the chambers just out of interest to see what I already have but I am just gonna give them to a local engine/machine shop and just ask him to set the chamber at 40cc which equals 9.3:1   ;D

Why do you want so much CR?

Why Not get as much BANG as possible  ;) :)

I also worked out 42cc gives me 9.0:1 and 45cc gives me 8.60:1

Good point, how about a 4 inch bore motor fed by EFI and a turbo. With the buggy you'll be able to pull a 50-50 grind on the guard rail.

 :o  ;D

Don't you start Mr Webb already trying to plant little ideas ;) :)

It'd be 'good fun'...  :o

Yes but on a street buggy on a relatively soft engine, do you have benefits of increasing CR that way?

You are probably right and I will probably go for 45cc/8.60CR That should be more than enough  ;D

I'm not an expert as you know, but I don't think it's good to have so much CR when you plan to drive it on long trip as SCC, Bad Camberg, EBI etc.
On the other hand, your buggy is lighter than a sedan, so maybe there is less constrain?
What do the expert on the forum think?

SPG sucks SPG sucks
turbo rules,
EFI good, points bad
...

 :'( :'( :'( where's the love ??? :D You've been hanging out with Mr Webb a little to much  :-*

 ;D

it's called evolution.

did you know that the biggest step forward in the last thirty years in better performance and better economy in reasurch has been the angle at which the valves are cut?

so you should still be good with your parts. but i reread the hotrodbook and they are very much against dragracing with SPG's but you knew that.

anyway do i need to get worried about you whooping my ass bigtime or do i still stand a chance?  ;D ;)

You see OLD SKOOL RULES!!!! and as for the SPG and drag racing I was just about to start a thread about that subject  ;)

And I would say YES you do have to start worrying - I'll call you later dude  :)

:o :o :o

so i will have to wear my sneakers for sneaking into your garage saturday night off VoWo and sabotage the whole setup. duley noted...

Lee's undergoing a studied 'devolution' which is fine but you can't install even vintage parts with just a rock tied to the end of a stick. No matter how hard you hit them.

 :o 

it you hit things hard enough they will work eventually  :D :D :D

Good luck with the "build"!  :D

It remember me this old ads.  :D

Anymore thought guys as I will starting the rebuild soon :)

I'd keep the compression around 8:1.

ok dude 45cc chambers it is then - that keeps it around 8 ish  ;) :)

Oh it look like i'm going for 42cc chamber/ 9:1 :o

Updates VERY VERY VERY soon I promise guys  ;) :)

Winter's over Lee!! :D ;)

I know I know - there has already been a few day I wished I'd just left the engine alone  ::) But hey what fun would that be  :-\ ;) :)

I dropped my heads off at a local (ish) Formula Vee Shop - We had a really good talk and he has some COOL plans for my heads - oh yeah I am also NOT going for the 1.25 after all  ::)

Should make some good power when its done  :)

well here's the muffler ;)

Looks cool Lee.... what make is the muffler? Reminds me of one I used to run on my old 59 looker many moons ago.

Durr... just seen your thread re: the muffler Lee - well done!!!

Well all the Ali welding is finally done and the manifolds are off being matched to my Formula Vee heads, Pic's soon I promise guys ;D

Lee,one thing puzzles me,formula vee is a restricted formula with few allowable modifications,why would you restrict yourself to this same criteria?  seems strange to get formula vee heads?


cheers richie

Formula Vee ran 40hp single ports, Super Vee allowed a lot more motor- so I'm betting that's what the heads are based on???

Not sure if thats the same over here though?

cheers richie

Dude I was using that term very losely and I only called them "Formula Vee" heads as the maching/port work is being carried out by a Formula Vee Shop  ;)

Don't worry it won't be "restricted" - I also thought it would be best to go to the FV guys as they would have more experience of getting maximum flow with "Stock" sized valves  :)

Alex spring got his heads done there, he was very impressed.

Hey guys - should have some pic's VERY soon  ;) :) the FV guys have finished porting & polishing the heads AND manifolds - They were pretty interested in my "modified" Race Trim items  :)

All the spring pressure's have been checked/adjusted along with fitting a set of cromoly retainers and collets  ;D (just waiting on a batch of there own modified retainers)

The haeds AND manifolds have been on the flow bench and everything looks good - 75cfm across the manifold and port with STOCK valves (35/32) apparently stock 044 off the shelf only have 72cfm  :-\ :)
They have done alot of work just under where the carb sits as with the shortening it was quite a steep angle - its all good now  ;D

I am STILL waiting on carb parts from the States (pierce manifolds) but they should be here in a week or so  :-\ its getting pretty close for EBI but I will be there don't worry.

Oh yeah there is also the slight problem of a Slightly bent front beam from all that off roading  :o ::) :D

Also forgot to menion - The heads potential is now said to be 130bhp even with the STOCK valves (again read potential!) This is a quote their company stand by :)

And after chatting about my spec/set up with the FV guys they ESTIMATE around 110/115bhp on my motor ;D

I have also been advised to go back to ALUMINUIM push rods with an 8thou gap - FV guys say thats what they use AND they are easy good for 8000rpm! - Any thoughts ??? :)

speak to alex spring (too old) he used their pushrods and i think they bent.

Hmmm but that was ALOT biger motor - more valve, more spring pressure, more carb more revs etc etc - I think i should be ok  :-\ :)

You have pm Lee

Cheers dude  ;)

Sounds like yiou're getting there Lee. I know a lot of these FV guys really know how to squeeze the power out of their engines, so I bet those heads will be great. WOuld love to see some pictures of them when you get them back!

Yeah gettin there apart from this little problem  ::) http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,9354.0.html

I sdhould have the heads and manifolds back this friday so pic's soon I promise - And your right when you start talkin to these FV guys you soon realise they really do know whats what  ;) :)

So why the change in wheels dude, its looks so right on them !! :(

Wheels are stayin now dude - I did need the cash but I have sorted things out for now  ;)

Anyway back to the main topic and the pic's that I know a few of you have been waiting for  ;) Went to see my man at GAC Formula Vee racing this evening and I am very happy  ;D

The manifolds have been match ported as well as being "ported" just under where the carb sits to because of the new angle due to the shortening, The inlet ports have been fiddled with to give a few more CFM.

The Chambers have been flycut 2mm to give 42cc chambers and a Comp ratio of 9.057:1

There is also some brand new cromoloy retainers and collets  ;D

Now just some finishing and painting then its time to try and put it all back together  :D

What Torque should I do the head nuts to with the new Comp ratio?  ???

A couple more  ;) :)

Just look what you can do with a few hours in the garage, some files, a grinder and a bit of paint  ;) :)

A few more  ;) I love this set up  ;D

need to detail those carbs, how about gold plate:)

Looks like they are read to accept turbo boost ;) ;) ;)

Nice Lee.... :)

Give me a break dude it was gone 3am when I finished off the manifolds ::) ;) :)

Cheers though guys - All I have to do now is wait for my carb parts order to get here from the states  :(

the filters really look cool. way to go.

Cheers dude - I think your really gonna dig the "new" motor  ;) I might just give you a call later  :)

And your right dude CR is about right, I already have an upright style 4into1 header - just bolt on a turbo and some tubing, seal the airboxes to the carbs JOB DONE !!!!

Anyone got a spare hairdryer  ??? :D

very cool Lee!

A sneek preview guys  ;) :) Check out the rather unique linkage  :o :)

Looks great Lee!

hey that all looks nice. i would swap the arms on the linkage around and make it a push system. not that that is better, but the rods from the linkage to the carbs would not he so crooked. i think that affect the similar opening off the carbs... but that might just be me. but think off it. the arm to the right carb has a really different openingpath/ rate as the arm on the left carb.

why am i helping you out anyway with a 200kg weighing buggy???  ;D

You are right dude - It did take ALOT of fiddling to get the linkage opening "correctly" The arms look alot more crooked than ythey really are, Lots of rebending of the arms, adjusting rod lengths etc but it all seems to be cool now, I planned to have it "pull/pull" set up a loong time ago thats why I had the manifolds welded up "reversed" :)

There is still ALOT of small things to work out but it should be done I HOPE!!!!!!! :-\ :)

good job dude! looks very nice :)
i'll come by and have a look in chimay ;)

Tits :)

Cheers guys - should have some more pic's later  :)

Where? ;)

Here you go - I do love the look without the air boxes - My friend Rob says it look like something you'd see in the 1970 DDS cataloge  ;)

all you need now is a decent distributor  ;)
looks great dude!

Yeah it would look cool with an 010 but the funny thing is I have never been worried about the "look" of my 009, I think it looks kinda cool  ;) plus my friend Matt donated it to me when put in the 1641 originally :)

he didn't mean an 010, run a treuhaft :)

dual point!! ;)

For once NOW THIS WILL SHOCK EVERYONE I am gonna stick with my 009/electronic ignition :o It has worked FAULTLESSLY since I fitted it - wind, rain, off road and general abuse - It has taken all I can throw at it, it doesn't really standout as a "modern part" it blends in and I don't think you really notice it what with everything else I have goin on  ;) :)

more proper pic's tomorrow (no more crappy cell phone I promise!) :)

Switch that 009 out for some vintage spee with an 019 and a seat of the pants difference.   ;)

Still no carb parts BUT I am picking up my shortened pushrod in a few hours - One step closer :-\ :)

i know what it feels like to wait on parts on such a short notice dude!!

What ya think  ;)

 :)

Looks good Lee!

Old school for sure... Hope it runs good for you buddy :)

~Dave

one more I love dcn's  ;)
still waiting on some carb parts, breather/oil lines oh yeah and my pushrods  ::)

Cheers dave - hope to have it running tomorrow if the parts turn up  :-\ :)

The keen eyed out the might have noticed the Bosch logo'd coil clamp, Original weber logo'd banjo bolts and the "slightly" modified dcn's  ;) :)

Well just wait till it doesn't work.    Then you wish you had points.

Yeah yeah  ;) Don't worry I always carry a set just in case  ;D

If you look closely you can just see the RaceTrim Logo ;)

P.S guys I now have a WORKING 8track player fitted with speaker - I should be able to hear it to with that new single quite pack  :)

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P.S guys I now have a WORKING 8track player fitted with speaker - I should be able to hear it to with that new single quite pack  :)
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That is a glass pack not a quite pack..   Still should be quiter than the dual cannons you had.   Nice job Lee
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Lee... where you going to mount the turbo? ;D matt

That is a glass pack not a quite pack..   Still should be quiter than the dual cannons you had.   Nice job Lee
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I stand corected should add a few hp too ;) Still waiting on Mr Postman though :(

Love the picture on the background  ;D ;D

I hadn't spotted that! I've been looking at this thread at school too! :o

 :D That my original 70's playboy pic - The best bit is she kinda looks like my Ex  ;) :)

nice Lee.... I think I would swap to a original VW 40HP (early) round fan shroud though to make it look 100%

I did thinkabout that dude but Mine is alreay powder coated and I kinda like it - Just finished off the wheels, I hate doing it every time BUT dam they look good  ;) :)

That is a glass pack not a quite pack..   Still should be quiter than the dual cannons you had.   Nice job Lee
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I've called 'em dual Cop callers for years ;D

No worries, I'm sure the glasspack will announce your arrival Lee ;)

~DR.

The engine looks fantastic Lee!!! :o

It looks even better in the car  ;) :)

So, are you gone yet?

Nope still waiting  :'(

i didn't get to have a good look at the new engine, cos i kept seeing you fly past. but i guess that's a good sign, then  ;)
nice to hear and see you spinning the wheels while driving through the pitlane on sunday afternoon. and i was standing on the showground, can you imagine!!  ;D

Hey Thanks dude - sorry I should have more time to chat - just too much to enjoy ;)

Well all I can say is I am VERY happy with the new set up - I went with 55idles/120mains/28 vents - 2 turns out on the mixture screws/air bypass and with some ver minor linkage adjust ment she idle'd at 1000rpm dead! ok it is running a little rich but its still waaaaaaaaay better than before  :D I must be gettin around 25mpg (very roughly) oh yeah and she pulls like a train  ;D I clocked 86.1mph on the sat nav in THIRD GEAR!!!!!! Those FV guys KNOW what they are doin!

I was a little silly though and ran WITHOUT filters but hey you only live once  ;) I'll just have change the oil a little sonner  :D

Anyway she drove all the way there and back and ran a 15.8 (with loads of wheel spin!) and she didn't miss a single beat!!!!! I am well happy guys - SCC here we come  ;D

If anyone has soome pic's from ebi that would be great as I didn't take a camera ::)

oh yeah did I mention that............

the carb parts didn't turn up till friday well I got a letter at 11am saying I had to go pay customs charges, then we get pulled on the way back from there for no seat belts  :D then I stripped a stud on the new race trim manifolds, THEN we blew off TWO HP1's and lost approx 3ltrs of oil over the garage floor  :D so another trip to the shops for more oil and a Golf filter this time, then it turns out the cause of the oil pressure was a badly fitted hose end (by the hose shop!) so ANOTHER trip out for a hose repair (5pm friday afternoon!) then the dyno went down  ::) oh sorry I should have said I made a wrong conection (thanks Gav ;)) and after a couple hours tweaking she finally fired up properly at 9pm! So we gave her 2 test drives and at after a few more hours fiddling and CLEANING (after the filter incident) I finally left at 1am saturday moring drove through the night to dover and missed the 4am ferry by 10mins ::) slept in the manx for about an hour and got the 6am ferry - I hit france at 9am local time and then nailed it to chimay and pulled in around 12noon - so there you have it 1hrs sleep in a manx in 36hrs Hey you only live once  :D :D :D

Great story Lee! Way to persevere!

Cheers dude - I almost gave up around 8pm BUT my very good friend gav kept me goin and it was well worth it when I was cruzing through the french/belguim country side on a Sunny Saturday morning even if I had had only an hours sleep in the manx :D

I was very happy to see you again Lee.
Hope we will have more time to chat next time  ;)

Way to go Lee, never give up!!

Cheers guys - All this just so I can fit a Bug In Dash plaque  ;) :)

Me and Gav after the first test drive  :D ;) :)

very cool dude!!

tell us about this run:

(http://www.airmighty.com/index/Gallery/albums/European_Bug-In_2009/IMG_9666.jpg)

Cool I was hoping someone got a shot of us  ;D That was our first ever race against each other, and it turns out we are pretty even - Ok i got off the line first but I didn't pull away from Nicolas at all - I think I ran a 16.03 on that one with ALOT of wheel spin later on Sunday I got a 15.802 which I was VERY VERY happy with  ;D I am sure that there is a 14 in there somewhere as this is my FIRST tune up/setup and I feel sure there is a little more to come on a rolling road  :)

Plus I plan on fitting a pair of 13" spun ali rims to the front when I go to santa pod next time and I'll be taking off the front shocks AND fitting a Stinger - Wheelies here we come  ;) :)

Hey Lee,

I think between Steve and I we should have some shots for you, if I have time tonight I will have a look and upload them.

Your buggy looked awesome mate! Well done!!

J

You got some 13inch rims or ya need some, i will be selling some wide 5 ones soon :)

Rob

Na I have some I can borrow for now  ;)

Just remember. Boats are meant to float, valves aren't!  ;)

nah, the more he breaks, the better i look.  ;D

great race, i didn't mind loosing to you, glad to put a smile on your face.

Yeah yeah I know Master  ;) Still gettin used to the new set up  ;) :)


Yeah yeah LOSER!
I did get a 15.80 later on sunday but there is still loads more to come, Linkage is better setup now and I rebalanced the carbs - SOUNDS PERFCET ;D
Call ya soon buddy  :)

Hey Lee,

Here are some

J

One more

Awesome pic's dude - Thankyou  :) That would have been  a good race against Jagerbug if we hadn't both missed second  ::) :)

Bumping this thread for a friend  :)

Also has anyone heard anything about this motor.....

It still the same set up but now 1776cc and was sold seperatly to the Manx which is now on its way to AUSTRIA!  :)

She's even been Pinstriped!  :o