Adapting new paintjob to old paint with patina

[Andi/DFL]

hi,

I had to get my rear decklid repaintet. They tried to add some matt paint to the javagreen so it will look right with the rest of my car. Unfortunately it is still way too glossy and doesn't look right.

Any hints how I could adapt the new paint to the old paint? Plans are to sand the decklid with 2000 wet sandpaper. Any alternatives? Has anybody tried this and got a decent result?

We're not talking about polishing the old paint on the rest of the car, that doesn't work (trust me, it doesn't work :-), I really need to get the decklid paint matched to the car, not the other way round.

And burying the lid in my garden for two years isn't an alternative, either :-)

Cheers
Andi

[alex d]

hmmmmmmm, you can paint the rest of the car 

BTW 64 lookers rule!!

[Jon]

That depends on the finish of the paint, if it has orange peal you have to sand all that away to get a good flat paint...  If you get it real dull (use 3000 wet or even 4000) and then polish up until it matches, remember to stop in time ;-)

[Diederick/DVK]

sweet baby jesus in the orphanage!

i'm getting my java 67 repainted next month and if it turns out like that i'd be sooooo chuffedd!!!! 

did the decklid get a clear coat as well?

[Andi/DFL]

did the decklid get a clear coat as well?

no, it's just javagreen. it's really well done, maybe too well :-)

[Diederick/DVK]

no, it's just javagreen. it's really well done, maybe too well :-)

get a crappy painter next time

did he scan in the colour or use factory paint? i actually had litre of single component java green made over a year ago, used it to paint a few squared cm by hand, and it didn't turn out glossy 

have you also tried to use a product called commandant and then wax your car? we can get that stuff here in holland, what it does is remove a thin layer of old paint and then you can wax your car to make it go shiny again. man, your java green looks really dull compared to mine. but then i've got more rust than you do

[Andi/DFL]

did he scan in the colour or use factory paint?

no color scanning, car was not moveable then.

have you also tried to use a product called commandant and then wax your car? we can get that stuff here in holland, what it does is remove a thin layer of old paint and then you can wax your car to make it go shiny again

I'm over the point of trying to make the old paint glossy again. There isn't much, I haven't tried yet. After talking to my painter about my car, he clearly explained, why ploshing it will not work anymore. So I really need to get the lid adapted to it.

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

If you sand it just enough with 2000 grit sand paper to break the gloss you can then spray the deck with satin clear the color will stay the same but the shine will dull  the biggest problem with matching any body part is not just the color or the gloss,its getting  the peel right to me I can Walk a Car lot and look at a car And I can Tell if a fender or door has been resprayed by the Peel, every painter paints a little different depending on the air pressure used and how the paint was reduced when sprayed. Even with any resprayed Body part if you get it right on money with the peel,gloss and color you are still not out of the woods because if your car is Original Paint or an older Paint Job it Fades and Oxidizes way faster then the repainted part so you are always going to be able to tell at some point in time.. hope this helps...

[Pekka]

I guess it's best to try and find another original paint javagrün decklid then?

[Andy]

I've been told a hot pressure washer will dull fresh paint quite nicely.

There are also matting pastes used to key existing paint, that will take the shine away.

[Andi/DFL]

I guess it's best to try and find another original paint javagrün decklid then?

if you only knew how HARD it was to find a decent '64 decklid. The've been around for only a year.

[alex d]

I guess it's best to try and find another original paint javagrün decklid then?

if you only knew how HARD it was to find a decent '64 decklid.

I feel your pain! And don't get me started on 64 vert lids! 

[Pekka]

I guess it's best to try and find another original paint javagrün decklid then?

if you only knew how HARD it was to find a decent '64 decklid. The've been around for only a year.

I'll be on the lookout for one ...

[Andi/DFL]

I'll be on the lookout for one ...

don't look to hard, I already spent too much on decklids and stuff :-9

[62 Ragtop]

Send the decklid on some vacation to Canary Islands! Some time in the sun might take the gloss away! 

On a more serious note, maybe your painter should have tried mixing some more matting agent to the paint while comparing to a fender or so, to mimic the rest of the body!? Touch-up painting is always an art!

Else, I think its fine grit paper to dull it down a few notches, as JHU said.

Nevertheless, your car looks great IMHO, if it helps sooth the pain! 

cheers

[quickkafer]

You could sand that down with your 2000 grit and then send it to me for a summer to sit outside in the desert! 

I'll promise you that it would be faded in short order!

Either that, or you could get a big gnarley draw through turbo set up that won't allow you to run a decklid! 

Scott Faivre

[Roman]

Spray on a citrus based degreaser, wait an hour and hose it off. It dulls faster than ligtning!

[Andi/DFL]

thanks for the hints, everyone. I'm just back from the garage. I sanded it with the 2000 paper and polished it up again. This worked pretty well. Looks MUCH better now, although the hue is a little bit darker than the rest. Sorry, forgot the camera.

Does anybody know a hoodride forum? :-)))

[Rick Meredith]

Does anybody know a hoodride forum? :-)))

They won't know anything about paint over there!