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Blob
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Posts: 44
What Gearbox to go for?
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August 24, 2010, 21:29:11 pm »
Hello
I am looking for a new gearbox. But to find the right one, I could use some advice.
The gearbox should be for steet use.
The gearbox will have to be able to handle 250hp
It has to be with IRS
It need to have a high 4. gear, to reduce the rpmīs and noice at the motorway.
What gearing should I go for?
What about the shafts? Should I change them together with gearbox? Today it is all standard.
I could really use some advice about the brands. I have been looking at:
Rancho, KCR and Strictly foreign.
Any other brands that I should take a look at?
Any other things that I have forgotten?
Hope some of you will share some experience with me.
Jakob
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Dominick Luppino
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Posts: 323
Re: What Gearbox to go for?
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Reply #1 on:
August 24, 2010, 22:25:23 pm »
I'm very happy with Rancho, been using them for years!
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Zach Gomulka
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Posts: 6991
Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
Re: What Gearbox to go for?
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Reply #2 on:
August 25, 2010, 00:28:51 am »
Bus.
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glenn
Hero Member
Posts: 639
Re: What Gearbox to go for?
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Reply #3 on:
August 25, 2010, 00:39:10 am »
Go for a 5 speed and be done with it.
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Transaxle Specs: Type 1, Gene Berg 5 Speed Manual, IRS
Builder - Gary Berg
Case - Volkswagen "Rhino" case, heavy duty side covers
Mounts - Gene Berg GB-642P heavy duty rear mounts and Gene Berg GB-643F front crossmember
Gear Ratios - Close ratio 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th, steel shift forks, hardened keys
1st - 3.78:1 (heavy duty)
2nd - 2.06:1 (stock)
3rd - 1.58:1 (welded hub)
4th - 1.21:1 (welded hub)
5th - 0.82:1 (welded hub)
Rev - 3.61:1
Differential - ZF, Limited Slip (LSD) with 4 spyder gears (11 tooth)
Ring / Pinion - 3.875:1 ratio, 8 bolt, Gene Berg GB-660K-3875 (Klinkenberg)
Shifter - Gene Berg GB-5710 5 speed shifter w/ old style Berg "Finger Grip" handle, new shift rod bushing
Axles - Type 181 stub axles and C/V joints with Sway-A-Way Axles
Misc. - heavy duty cross shaft (welded), GBE Super Duty Pinion Bearing Retainer
Lubrication - Swepco 201 Multi-Purpose Gear Lube, 80-90W API GL-5 and MT-1 rated
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Glenn
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Fiatdude
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Posts: 1823
Re: What Gearbox to go for?
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Reply #4 on:
August 25, 2010, 01:29:34 am »
IRS = Bus
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Blob
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Posts: 44
Re: What Gearbox to go for?
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Reply #5 on:
August 25, 2010, 06:24:25 am »
Quote from: glenn on August 25, 2010, 00:39:10 am
Go for a 5 speed and be done with it.
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Transaxle Specs: Type 1, Gene Berg 5 Speed Manual, IRS
Builder - Gary Berg
Case - Volkswagen "Rhino" case, heavy duty side covers
Mounts - Gene Berg GB-642P heavy duty rear mounts and Gene Berg GB-643F front crossmember
Gear Ratios - Close ratio 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th, steel shift forks, hardened keys
1st - 3.78:1 (heavy duty)
2nd - 2.06:1 (stock)
3rd - 1.58:1 (welded hub)
4th - 1.21:1 (welded hub)
5th - 0.82:1 (welded hub)
Rev - 3.61:1
Differential - ZF, Limited Slip (LSD) with 4 spyder gears (11 tooth)
Ring / Pinion - 3.875:1 ratio, 8 bolt, Gene Berg GB-660K-3875 (Klinkenberg)
Shifter - Gene Berg GB-5710 5 speed shifter w/ old style Berg "Finger Grip" handle, new shift rod bushing
Axles - Type 181 stub axles and C/V joints with Sway-A-Way Axles
Misc. - heavy duty cross shaft (welded), GBE Super Duty Pinion Bearing Retainer
Lubrication - Swepco 201 Multi-Purpose Gear Lube, 80-90W API GL-5 and MT-1 rated
Who have build your gearbox?
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Blob
Newbie
Posts: 44
Re: What Gearbox to go for?
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Reply #6 on:
August 25, 2010, 06:26:49 am »
Quote from: Fiatdude on August 25, 2010, 01:29:34 am
IRS = Bus
What do I have to change, if I use a bus-transmission in stead of a normal bug-transmission.
I think that the bus-transmission i bigger, so will I have to modify a lot of things at the floorpan?
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glenn
Hero Member
Posts: 639
Re: What Gearbox to go for?
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Reply #7 on:
August 25, 2010, 10:41:28 am »
Quote from: Blob on August 25, 2010, 06:24:25 am
Quote from: glenn on August 25, 2010, 00:39:10 am
Go for a 5 speed and be done with it.
Quote
Transaxle Specs: Type 1, Gene Berg 5 Speed Manual, IRS
Builder - Gary Berg
Case - Volkswagen "Rhino" case, heavy duty side covers
Mounts - Gene Berg GB-642P heavy duty rear mounts and Gene Berg GB-643F front crossmember
Gear Ratios - Close ratio 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th, steel shift forks, hardened keys
1st - 3.78:1 (heavy duty)
2nd - 2.06:1 (stock)
3rd - 1.58:1 (welded hub)
4th - 1.21:1 (welded hub)
5th - 0.82:1 (welded hub)
Rev - 3.61:1
Differential - ZF, Limited Slip (LSD) with 4 spyder gears (11 tooth)
Ring / Pinion - 3.875:1 ratio, 8 bolt, Gene Berg GB-660K-3875 (Klinkenberg)
Shifter - Gene Berg GB-5710 5 speed shifter w/ old style Berg "Finger Grip" handle, new shift rod bushing
Axles - Type 181 stub axles and C/V joints with Sway-A-Way Axles
Misc. - heavy duty cross shaft (welded), GBE Super Duty Pinion Bearing Retainer
Lubrication - Swepco 201 Multi-Purpose Gear Lube, 80-90W API GL-5 and MT-1 rated
Who have build your gearbox?
Gary Berg
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Glenn
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74 Beetle Restoration
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2180cc Engine
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but you always pay for what you get"
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Fiatdude
Hero Member
Posts: 1823
Re: What Gearbox to go for?
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Reply #8 on:
August 25, 2010, 15:11:56 pm »
Quote from: Blob on August 25, 2010, 06:26:49 am
Quote from: Fiatdude on August 25, 2010, 01:29:34 am
IRS = Bus
What do I have to change, if I use a bus-transmission in stead of a normal bug-transmission.
I think that the bus-transmission i bigger, so will I have to modify a lot of things at the floorpan?
Berg sells a trans mount for the bus conversion, I believe there is a small piece of the floor that needs to be modified near/at the nose cone
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Ovalholio -- GONE
Ghia -- -- It's going
Get lost for an evening or two --
http://selvedgeyard.com/
Remember, as you travel the highway of life,
For every mile of road, there is 2 miles of ditch
Blob
Newbie
Posts: 44
Re: What Gearbox to go for?
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Reply #9 on:
August 25, 2010, 20:34:40 pm »
Okay I see.
If any of you have any experience with the companies I will like to know.
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