Oil sump

[richie]

richie, what kind of oil? 10w40?

i guess i can always change the sump later on...
i need to get building soon, but i keep waiting for parts to arrive.

0/30 or 0/40 or 5/40 and 10/60 depending on what time of year etc

cheers richie,uk

[Diederick/DVK]

how about a 4 quart berg sump?
or will that be too low?

plus my suction tube is welded and about 2" long. the 4 quart sump is 3.75" deep. will this be ok?

[Zach Gomulka]

The 4qt sump will work, but you will have to be very careful as it is extremely low.
As for the pickup tube, I extend it down until it is the same distance from the sump plate as it was from the factory- does anyone else have more insight on this??

[SOB/RFH]

richie, what kind of oil? 10w40?

i guess i can always change the sump later on...
i need to get building soon, but i keep waiting for parts to arrive.

0/30 or 0/40 or 5/40 and 10/60 depending on what time of year etc

cheers richie,uk

Man you are on a thin line here....No aircooled contruction with it's roots in the 30's can live on synthetics HAHA....That is what I am told!!! So I love synthetic, warm motor up like it should and have a ball with my motor, only issue was lack of oil (bearing showed some scuffing) when stock pump and sump was used.........And yeah it is a type 4....synthetic and type 4 in a Cal-looker....thats rock'n roll!!!

[Diederick/DVK]

perhaps a 3.5 quart berg or empi sump is better?

[Zach Gomulka]

Berg 3.5q is good, I've heard mixed reviews on the EMPI sump.

[Diederick/DVK]

i've READ they're an exact copy of the berg sump.
once again this is what some people claim...

anyhow, i'm sure the tube will come out a lot better with the 3.5

[Torben Alstrup]

There is NO NEED for 3,5-4 qrt sumps on daily street engines, unless you whip them above 7500 at every stop light. Not even along with a 30 mm pump. It is a thing from the past that has been misunderstood or misconcepted.
What we used to do with those,  was making a poor mans dry sump. We lovered the max level to the minimum line on the dipstick, resulting in less oil whip inside the case, hence less friction.
7-8 quarts non temp controlled oil  in the system on a street engine has huge warm up periods, which often gives you a false "security" Too cold oil is almost as bad as too warm. - Controlled temps are much better.
WRT the strainer, I leave them out on every engine that has more than 294 degree duration on the cam. Much of the starvation occurs exactly there, not because of too little capacity in the system, because the strainer is not designed to be able to handle that amount of oil that fast.
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[Diederick/DVK]

i still have my 1.5 quart race trim. but i'm not sure how to mount that one with the welded pickup tube and the fact that the sump plate threads are not in the same spot as the empi and berg sump...

any ideas?