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« on: October 13, 2009, 01:53:15 am »

Just had a thought aftter a friend picked up some 356 guages cheap - as a few of you might know 356 Tachos are driven by a special oilpump, My question is has anyone ever fitted one of the porsche 356 oilpumps in a Type1 VW case  Huh Huh Huh

Also anyone happen to know where you can get the drive cables Huh Huh Huh

(and I don't want anyone telling me to fit a 356 motor  Wink)
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 09:32:58 am »

you might get away with fitting a '65 912 engine then  Roll Eyes Wink
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 11:33:30 am »

you might get away with fitting a '65 912 engine then  Roll Eyes Wink

as we say in england - YOU PLONKER!!!!! Wink Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

But really has anyone ever done this conversion???
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 14:00:41 pm »

I think the bolt pattern is the same, but not sure about the drive gear. Here is a link to new cables.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=644-741-311-01-M74&catalog_description=Tachometer%20Cable%2C%20%33%35%36B%2F%33%35%36C%2C%20%28%31%39%36%30%2D%36%34%29%20
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 17:30:49 pm »


Should have known those guys would have it  Wink

I guess it just a case of getting a 356 pump and doo some measuring Smiley

Anyone got one laying around Huh
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 18:37:28 pm »

Some guy you never heard of named Darrell Vittone did it in a 1967 drag Beetle with "Race Shop" painted on the doors !
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 18:44:35 pm »

Some guy you never heard of named Darrell Vittone did it in a 1967 drag Beetle with "Race Shop" painted on the doors !
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Huh?Huh? You don't mean the Race Shop slalom car, I think that has porsche gauges  Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 19:01:47 pm »

Make your life easier and get a 912 electric tach, you can find them at affordable prices.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2009, 19:04:17 pm »

Some guy you never heard of named Darrell Vittone did it in a 1967 drag Beetle with "Race Shop" painted on the doors !
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darrell who Huh.................. Grin Grin
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2009, 19:06:17 pm »

and which car  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes........................ Grin Grin
darrell used an stewart warner  mechanical tacho , not a porsche one
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2009, 19:10:01 pm »

 Wink
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2009, 19:16:32 pm »

now I got ya  Wink Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2009, 19:53:44 pm »

For some reason I thought he used a 356 oil pump to power  that tach.
I was just going to break out that article to make sure Fabian.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2009, 20:06:09 pm »

For some reason I thought he used a 356 oil pump to power  that tach.
I was just going to break out that article to make sure Fabian.
 Smiley
rich they' said in the article that the engine was the same as the 850 raceshop , and in the articles with the 850 , they talk about a nikerson oil pump
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2009, 23:39:41 pm »

To take a slightly different tangent - has anyone ever had gauges rebuilt/converted to electronic Huh

I did read that some feature car (volksworld I think Undecided)
the guy had converted his old speedwell gauges over to modern internal - maybe simon fox, resto cal  Undecided Undecided

Any thoughts Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2009, 00:38:51 am »

Have you seen the exhaust port design...  Shocked Shocked

angle flow based on a stock head, not bad for 1974...



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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2009, 21:17:10 pm »

Have you seen the exhaust port design...  Shocked Shocked

angle flow based on a stock head, not bad for 1974...


I wonder how the header sealed to the head Huh
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2009, 21:30:17 pm »

come on guys - start your own thread  Angry Wink

Let get back to MY oil pump/tacho drive question Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2009, 23:35:14 pm »

Have you seen the exhaust port design...  Shocked Shocked

angle flow based on a stock head, not bad for 1974...


I wonder how the header sealed to the head Huh

It says the exhaust sticks in to the head.
Sorry monki Grin
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2009, 23:52:29 pm »

 Roll Eyes even the moderators are thread jumpin now - what chance do I have  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2009, 08:29:07 am »

Roll Eyes even the moderators are thread jumpin now - what chance do I have  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Looks like a normal electric tacho is your only option really  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2009, 10:21:42 am »

I guess the other alternative is to find a cheap electronic tach where the needle starts and stops in a similar position to the porsche one, and either swap the internals into the porsche one, or swap the porsche face into the cheap one? Someone must have done this in the history of hot rod building at some point?! here is someone else asking the same question, and kind of an answer.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82077&highlight=gauge+face
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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2009, 11:28:22 am »

Cheers dude - Like I mentioned before, Anyone know more about Simon Fox (converted speedwell gauges) Huh
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2009, 12:21:27 pm »

you might have to pay a visit to those characters on restowagen, I think you could find him on there?
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2009, 18:20:16 pm »

http://www.nhspeedometer.com/

These guys will convert your buddys tacho.
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2009, 19:56:37 pm »

http://www.nhspeedometer.com/

These guys will convert your buddys tacho.

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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2009, 21:12:39 pm »

WISE ASS!!!  Roll Eyes Cheesy
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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2009, 22:02:43 pm »

WISE ASS!!!  Roll Eyes Cheesy


Yeah he is isn't he  Wink
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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2009, 18:06:04 pm »

 Shocked Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2009, 22:20:10 pm »

Why are you stuck on using a cable drive tach? Just curious...
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