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Ole
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« on: October 26, 2009, 21:26:01 pm »
Hi all,
last weekend I picked up my '52. It was sitting and waiting for it's reatauration for the past few years, but now it's time to get it back on the road (read: NOT strip!  Wink ). Here's what it looked like when I towed it to my shop.







The good part is that most of the important (and expensive..) parts are there. On the downside there's a lot of rust and some accident damages...

The heater channels have to be replaced for sure, I guess the worst part will be both doors. I have two pairs of split-doors, but they are all dead...

First we have to get rid of the Volvo (rust repairs, what else...?), then I'll start stripping the '52.



Saludos,
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 21:49:58 pm »
Nice project Ole(looks a little bit like a german looker now,with the wider front wheels and front oilcooler ).
Are you gonne re-use that decklid(like it,saw these more in the late 80's on the faster german bugs).And what engine?
Anyway,have fun with the built-up,and keep us updated(and pics offcourse).
  Wink  Peter
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 12:32:54 pm »
You have some cool stuff lying around! Looking forward to seeing the progress on this.  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 13:13:35 pm »
Quote from: vwcab on October 26, 2009, 21:49:58 pm
Nice project Ole(looks a little bit like a german looker now,with the wider front wheels and front oilcooler ).
Are you gonne re-use that decklid(like it,saw these more in the late 80's on the faster german bugs).And what engine?
Anyway,have fun with the built-up,and keep us updated(and pics offcourse).
  Wink  Peter

Hi Peter,

you're right about the "german look", indeed it's a car with a lot of german history. In the 70s the car had 4.5 Porsche 356 rims and 165-15 tyres, I think about going back to this type of wheel. Not sure about the decklid, actually I had exactly this decklid on my first car ever, later I traded it for the decklid that came with the split... so I have several decklid options.

The engine is a 69 x 90mm with Oettinger Nicasil liners, Schleicher cam, early Weber IDF carbs and a Riechert external oil pump. The engine has been rebuilt not long ago together with the gearbox, for the moment I think I'll not do any changes to it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 13:14:51 pm »
Quote from: Mat Sanchez on October 27, 2009, 12:32:54 pm
You have some cool stuff lying around! Looking forward to seeing the progress on this.  Smiley

Thanks Mat! Grin
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 13:38:31 pm »
hey olé -- do you have pix of your engine? thx
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 13:50:17 pm »
Yesterday I pulled the junk out of the car to get an overview what's there and what's missing.



Although I don't want to change the look of the dashboard it will need some work, there are a million holes closed with bondo from the backside. The gauges (speedo and tach) are out of a NSU TT.



There are Scheel seats I already had im my '53 ragtop which I sold recently. The passengers seat will be modified to match the drivers seat.



The doors! First thing I realized is that they are as double as heavy as they should...



Inside I found a mixture of rust, bondo and something I couldn't identify...



The lower hinge of the passengers door just stayed closed if you opened the door...



I hope not to find too many surprises when I remove the carpet, you never know!



These are the rims I'll probably use. In the 70s the car had 16mm spacers between the rims and brakedrums. I don't have them yet but if I manage to get them I'll mount them again.

Saludos,
Ole
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 13:53:47 pm »
Quote from: Turtle001 on October 27, 2009, 13:38:31 pm
hey olé -- do you have pix of your engine? thx

Here's one for the start, I'll take some more pics when I removed the body.



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Ole
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 21:13:07 pm »
Is that an external oil pump?
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2009, 17:40:31 pm »
Ole,I think that when you do a chop you chop the doors at the top not the bottom Cheesy   

Looks like it will keep you busy for a while,look forward to seeing it on the strip Wink

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2009, 18:50:02 pm »
Quote from: richie,uk on October 28, 2009, 17:40:31 pm
... I think that when you do a chop you chop the doors at the top not the bottom ...

German engineering's not what it used to be.  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2009, 19:08:45 pm »
Quote from: j-f on October 27, 2009, 21:13:07 pm
Is that an external oil pump?

Yes, it's an external pump. It works additional to the stock oil system, there's a pick up for the oil pump at the sump, the cooled oil gets back to the sump too. I'll post some pictures later.
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2009, 19:20:59 pm »
Quote from: richie,uk on October 28, 2009, 17:40:31 pm
Ole,I think that when you do a chop you chop the doors at the top not the bottom Cheesy   
I had Bill Mitchell's second Thunder Bug in mind when doing this...  Wink Cheesy


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Looks like it will keep you busy for a while,look forward to seeing it on the strip Wink

cheers richie,uk
Busy yes, strip no! I already had enough cars that coverted to race-cars over the time.

Saludos,
Ole
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2009, 19:22:11 pm »
Quote from: Mat Sanchez on October 28, 2009, 18:50:02 pm
Quote from: richie,uk on October 28, 2009, 17:40:31 pm
... I think that when you do a chop you chop the doors at the top not the bottom ...

German engineering's not what it used to be.  Smiley

Mat, you know my profession. Maybe I did too much quality control... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2009, 19:49:59 pm »
Quote from: Ole on October 28, 2009, 19:22:11 pm
Quote from: Mat Sanchez on October 28, 2009, 18:50:02 pm
Quote from: richie,uk on October 28, 2009, 17:40:31 pm
... I think that when you do a chop you chop the doors at the top not the bottom ...

German engineering's not what it used to be.  Smiley

Mat, you know my profession. Maybe I did to much quality control... Roll Eyes

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nice linkage, if you junk it, i'll be the junkyard.  Grin Grin Grin

so it will be out by EBI in 2018  Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2009, 20:17:33 pm »
Quote from: nicolas on October 28, 2009, 19:49:59 pm
Quote from: Ole on October 28, 2009, 19:22:11 pm
Quote from: Mat Sanchez on October 28, 2009, 18:50:02 pm
Quote from: richie,uk on October 28, 2009, 17:40:31 pm
... I think that when you do a chop you chop the doors at the top not the bottom ...

German engineering's not what it used to be.  Smiley

Mat, you know my profession. Maybe I did to much quality control... Roll Eyes

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nice linkage, if you junk it, i'll be the junkyard.  Grin Grin Grin

so it will be out by EBI in 2018  Tongue


No....no...Nicolas,the next EBI will be in 2011,and it's gonne be every 2 years,so it will be
2017....or2019.  Grin   Cheesy
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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2009, 21:47:26 pm »
What an odd way to lighten a beetle(remove unnecessary weight from the doors and engine lid), and then stick steel rims on it.  Madness.

But it really needs a chop  Shocked Shocked

Nice project.
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2009, 22:20:53 pm »
Quote from: Ole on October 28, 2009, 19:22:11 pm
... you know my profession. Maybe I did too much quality control ...

You can never get too much of that.  Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2009, 23:12:22 pm »
Looks like your gonna be busy this winter with that Ole , looks to be a fair amount of oil based plumbing in there , like the dash layout and seat choice  Cool
Is the car on a later pan as I cant see a heater control knob ? Keep us up to date on progress  Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2009, 20:22:12 pm »
Quote from: nicolas on October 28, 2009, 19:49:59 pm
so it will be out by EBI in 2018  Tongue

More likely Bad Camberg 2019... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2009, 20:27:06 pm »
Quote from: Lids on October 28, 2009, 21:47:26 pm
What an odd way to lighten a beetle(remove unnecessary weight from the doors and engine lid), and then stick steel rims on it.  Madness.

That's O.K. The weight added by using steel rims was removed at the flywheel... Wink

I'll post pics as soon as I can, got some trouble with the camera  Angry

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But it really needs a chop  Shocked Shocked
Hhmm, got to think about that...

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Nice project.
Muchas gracias! Cool
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2009, 20:32:37 pm »
Quote from: 49-rag on October 28, 2009, 23:12:22 pm
Is the car on a later pan as I cant see a heater control knob ?

Yes, the pan seems to be 64ish. I called the former owner today and he told me they swapped the rotten `52 pan for a brand new factory pan in the 70s. He promised to look in his photo album for period shots of the car Shocked

Saludos,
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2009, 22:28:18 pm »

Hi Ole,

Nice car and project !

If by any chance you would consider selling the five bolts sprinstar, I have a freind looking for a set .

Christofe

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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2009, 22:41:33 pm »
I got rid of the camera probs today, here are some shots of the engine

This is the external Riechert oil pump and the oil pick-up/return at the bottom





The breather system is kind of what I've seen at some formula vee engines...





Have you ever seen a Weber 40IDF setup like this? Shocked









The flywheel is... well, it's light... Wink







That's it for the engine, I'll use it just like it is as it ran pretty good, never change a running system...

I removed the body from the pan this weekend and I found a lot of work, I'll post more pics tomorrow.

Saludos,
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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2009, 22:43:11 pm »
Quote from: Christofe on November 01, 2009, 22:28:18 pm

Hi Ole,

Nice car and project !

If by any chance you would consider selling the five bolts sprinstar, I have a freind looking for a set .

Christofe

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Hi Christofe!

Sorry, the sprints are not for sale.

Saludos,
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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2009, 22:47:07 pm »
Quote from: Ole on November 01, 2009, 22:41:33 pm
... I removed the body from the pan this weekend and I found a lot of work, I'll post more pics tomorrow ...

What did you think you we're going to find!  Cheesy  Shocked

Good luck with that!  Cool
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« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2009, 22:58:01 pm »
waouwww that flywheel look like a cheese  Grin Grin
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2009, 01:23:20 am »
Quote from: Ole on November 01, 2009, 22:41:33 pm




Wow...!?!   Shocked
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2009, 16:28:44 pm »
That is one COOL motor!!!

Ohh, and the car, too! Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2009, 16:54:30 pm »
so cool.

is it common to see an extra jet on older 40 IDF's, somthing similar to Tri-jets from Dellorto? i am sure newer IDFs don't have the upright squirter.

i like the engine, the setup could look really nice in a detailed enginebay.


so how is the choptop coming along then?
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