charge cooling been done, cooling the fuel ??

[Rocket Ron]

sat in the van in traffic today and my mind was elsewhere ( not unusual    ) and was thinking about a TV show I saw last night about the world record attempt by a steam powered car.

They had shipped the car out to the us and the temperature was way to hot for the car to run.

As a solution they packed the car with dry ice to cool it down to be able to make a run.

It got me thinking about cooling the fuel not just the charge ( ie intercooler) in an effort to get a denser charge on a turbo engine.

Has it been done or am I way off track here as usual     

[mr horsepower]

then it needs more time to vapor and  it will cause detonation .
Gr henri

[Rick Sadler]

Like this?

http://spideraccessories.stores.yahoo.net/coolcan.html

[Jim Ratto]

I was daydreaming on my way home about a new front yard at my place, eating po' boy sandwiches on the waterfront in New Orleans and the possibilities of an "active combustion chamber"
how awesome would that be?

[ESH]

What about warming it with a spark plug. 

[Rocket Ron]

Like this?

http://spideraccessories.stores.yahoo.net/coolcan.html

yep sort of like that 

[Martin]

wopers got one, tried it with and with out, didnt make the car go any faster, but i did have some ice left over for the Gin & Tonic later in the evening......bonus!

[kingsburgphil]

 Turbocharged aircraft engines work just fine at temps below freezing. (Think WWII B-17's) 

[delroyb]

Fuel temp makes a lot of difference. That is why in F1 there is a minimum temp that the fuel can be stored at, to prevent people getting silly with chilling it and getting an unfair advantage. Cooler fuel is denser, thus has a higher energy density/l. Dont think it would be practical to cool it in the car though.

[BeetleBug]

Martin, it looks like you have found a way to cool your fuel down with your ice/fuel tank;

[Martin]

thats actually the beer cooler

[Rocket Ron]

 Thats one exspensive beer cooler 


Ps Its my Birthday today Martin, my birthday present ready yet ?

[richie]

sat in the van in traffic today and my mind was elsewhere ( not unusual    ) and was thinking about a TV show I saw last night about the world record attempt by a steam powered car.

They had shipped the car out to the us and the temperature was way to hot for the car to run.

As a solution they packed the car with dry ice to cool it down to be able to make a run.

It got me thinking about cooling the fuel not just the charge ( ie intercooler) in an effort to get a denser charge on a turbo engine.

Has it been done or am I way off track here as usual     

It has to help,but most sanctioning bodies make it illegal ,particularly in drag racing,if its worth the effort in what we are trying to achieve,well theres only one way you are going to find out Ron,try it


cheers richie,uk 

[Rocket Ron]

may be interesting to see the difference it would make to a run

we'll have too see, got to sort out a few other things first